Hi. On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 23:49:17 +0100 Brian <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat 29 Oct 2016 at 23:23:52 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 19:15:53 +0100 > > Brian <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I wish you had addressed the "equal exposure" question. Desktops are not > > > the only environments in town. Leaving non-policykit users out in the > > > cold is not an option. > > > > True, that does not look good at all. But why bother listing udisks2 > > which is using PolicyKit then? > > In the light of previous points I think there is a non-sequiteur in > there somwhere. Nope, it was only an observation. > > > A page on pmount is a little harder because it is a moving target. > > > > I honestly lost you here. oldstable, stable, testing and even sid have > > the same upstream version of pmount - 0.9.23, dated 2010. > > They do indeed. Six years. Do you get the feeling it is getting on for > unmaintained. (And a wiki page with HAL on it! I ask you). But software > changes. Then wiki pages change. Why bother with feelings then you have packages.qa.debian.org? It plainly states that: The current maintainer is looking for someone who can take over maintenance of this package. I'm still don't get it how does it make pmount a 'moving target'. It's the direct opposite of it IMO. > > > Mounting and unmounting are not really a problem. Users and root can > > > easily do these. But, as far as I can see, only someone with root > > > privileges can use dd, cfdisk, fdisk and mkfs.vfat with a removable > > > device. I'd like to be wrong. > > > > This is a common myth that I'll debunk gladly. > > > > Image copying (dd or any other tool) merely requires ability to write > > to a block device. Such permissions on removable media should be > > provided to any current console user by logind (or ConsoleKit if we > > still need to think about wheezy), or a good old-fashioned > > 'floppy' (any group name will do) group and a custom udev rule (as of > > jessie). > > > > Creating any filesystem on a removable media's partition merely requires > > the same. > > Since you wrote this, hundreds of people using GNOME have popped a USB > stick into their machines and typed > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<somewhere> > > Those who didn't get > > dd: failed to open 'dev/<somewhere>' > > will be along soon to report success and explain why. #788662, comment 28 to be precise. I'm too lazy to discover that secret 'D-Bus interfaces provided by udisks2' personally. > The floppy group + a udev rule is a Wheezy thing. Not suitable for a > wiki relating to a current Debian. Just because it looks obsolete does not mean it does not work. Still, if you need to do it FreeDesktop way, you'll need an udev rule like this: ACTION=="add", ENV{ID_BUS}=="usb", KERNEL=="sd*", TAG+="uaccess" Reco
