Re: h264/player/decoder stuff

2016-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 20:34 (UTC-0400): Gene Heskett wrote: Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 17:02 (UTC-0400): > > check but not amd64 > That can't be good. :-( Why, its a 32 bit install. The inclusion of "not" made me think you were describ

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 13 June 2016 01:31:10 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 18:09:52 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 12 June 2016 20:08:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > A single 'q', and all hell took off and bombed my system, leaving > > > only that which was in memory & running. It did not accept an

Re: h264/player/decoder stuff (was: Rebuilding system after aptitude)

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 20:11:55 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 17:51:50 Felix Miata wrote: > > Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 17:02 (UTC-0400): > > > Felix Miata wrote: > > >> ii alsa-utils1.1.0-2 > > >> amd64Utilities for co

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 18:09:52 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 20:08:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > A single 'q', and all hell took off and bombed my system, leaving > > only that which was in memory & running. It did not accept another > > q, nor a ctl+c. Bad dog, no dinner. > > So you op

Re: ncurses screen corruption and terminals

2016-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 19:54 (UTC-0400): mc has been around for north of 30 years I believe, actually dateing back to dos-2.0 days or before. MC is a 22 year old clone of Norton Commander for DOS (which at the time of NC birth was v3.2, prior to existence of extended HD partition

Re: Rebuilding system after aptitude

2016-06-12 Thread emetib
Grep -e is the same as egrep. Read the man and you'll see.

Re: h264/player/decoder stuff (was: Rebuilding system after aptitude)

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 17:51:50 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 17:02 (UTC-0400): > > Felix Miata wrote: > >> ii alsa-utils1.1.0-2 > >> amd64Utilities for configuring and using > >> ALSA > > > > check but not amd64 > >

Re: Rebuilding system after aptitude

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 17:21:10 Sven Hartge wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 12 June 2016 16:23:47 Felix Miata wrote: > >> # dpkg -l | sort | egrep > >> 'alsa|arts|imedia-l|libasoun|mix|pavuc|phonon|pulse|space-libs' ii > > > > egrep apparently not in my $PATH, can't find it even after

Re: ncurses screen corruption and terminals

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 17:13:19 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jun 2016, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 12 June 2016 00:09:54 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > > cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: > > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:04:27PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > It seems obvi

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 23:19:27 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > Yes, OK. But it was the topic that I was answering to, not the > > individual. I was trying to keep the thread rational -- possibly > > unsuccessfully. > > You replied to my messag

Re: h264/player/decoder stuff

2016-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
Nicolas George composed on 2016-06-12 23:57 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata composed: >> # dpkg -l | egrep -i 'kodi|mpeg|h264|mplay|vlc' ... > The decoder that almost all Libre software use for H.264 is in libavcodec. I > do not know how your grep could miss it, since it is a prerequisite for > these

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > Yes, OK. But it was the topic that I was answering to, not the individual. > I > was trying to keep the thread rational -- possibly unsuccessfully. You replied to my message, quoted it and did not include any explanation, what did yo

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 23:10:13 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > The thread was about running xterm inside a DE by all sorts of > > complicated methods instead of simply clicking a couple of buttons in > > Konsole-Trinity! > > My message was about

Re: ncurses screen corruption and terminals

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 22:13:19 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > I can attest that Debian jessie's Konsole doesn't work quite right in > every situation with the "TERM=xterm" and Debian's terminfo, for > example. Gene is in fact using, or not using, Konsole-Trinity, not KDE-Konsole. Lisi

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 20:08:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > A single 'q', and all hell took off and bombed my system, leaving only > that which was in memory & running. It did not accept another q, nor a > ctl+c. Bad dog, no dinner. So you opened a terminal and typed: $ q and all hell let loose?? Come

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > The thread was about running xterm inside a DE by all sorts of complicated > methods instead of simply clicking a couple of buttons in Konsole-Trinity! My message was about the font selection in XTerm (and most Xt-based applications), not

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 20:15:08 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > > If you go for medium or large font sizes, then using -fa / faceName and > > > an Xft name instead of -fn / font for an X11 fot is probably a good > > > idea: it gives anti-aliasing

Re: h264/player/decoder stuff (was: Rebuilding system after aptitude)

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Felix Miata a écrit : > I don't know how to translate what I have installed to what you actually need > to play what you want to play, but here's what I have on that machine: > > # dpkg -l | egrep -i 'kodi|mpeg|h264|mplay|vlc' > ii ffmpeg

Re: h264/player/decoder stuff (was: Rebuilding system after aptitude)

2016-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 17:02 (UTC-0400): > Felix Miata wrote: >> ii alsa-utils1.1.0-2 >> amd64Utilities for configuring and using ALSA > check but not amd64 That can't be good. :-( ... > what about h264 stuff?, I can't find a pl

Re: Rebuilding system after aptitude

2016-06-12 Thread Sven Hartge
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 16:23:47 Felix Miata wrote: >> # dpkg -l | sort | egrep >> 'alsa|arts|imedia-l|libasoun|mix|pavuc|phonon|pulse|space-libs' ii > egrep apparently not in my $PATH, can't find it even after a re-install. egrep is in /bin/egrep and in the package grep.

ncurses screen corruption and terminals

2016-06-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 00:09:54 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:04:27PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > It seems obvious to me, he's talking about screen corruption. > > > Gene, Is this when you

Re: Rebuilding system after aptitude

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 16:23:47 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 16:05 (UTC-0400): > > While I was able to reinstall both iceweasel and firefox, I can't > > play any videos now, so what is everyone else using, both for flash, > > and for h264 stuffs? > > This is what I have

Re: Non-firefox browser?

2016-06-12 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Sat, 11 Jun 2016, Charlie Kravetz wrote: Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 08:57:10 From: Charlie Kravetz To: terryc Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Non-firefox browser? Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 13:52:41 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 13:0

Re: Rebuilding system after aptitude

2016-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 16:05 (UTC-0400): > While I was able to reinstall both iceweasel and firefox, I can't play > any videos now, so what is everyone else using, both for flash, and for > h264 stuffs? This is what I have for Youtube, VLC and system sounds working in TDE on Stretc

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Bob Holtzman
> xterm *does* have a configuration menu, it's just hidden behind a rather > obscure (and painfully "vintage X11") UI gesture. (Control + right-drag). Works like a charm except that the changes aren't persistent. -- Bob Holtzman A man is a man who will fight with a sword or conquer Mt. Everest i

Rebuilding system after aptitude

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; While I was able to reinstall both iceweasel and firefox, I can't play any videos now, so what is everyone else using, both for flash, and for h264 stuffs? Thanks all. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Ple

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 15:43:53 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 14:19 (UTC-0400): > > Felix Miata wrote: > >> What's wrong with MC's editor running in Konsole? > > > > That, in case you haven't noticed, is in fact nano. > > How would I know what it is "in fact" on your sys

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 14:19 (UTC-0400): Felix Miata wrote: What's wrong with MC's editor running in Konsole? That, in case you haven't noticed, is in fact nano. How would I know what it is "in fact" on your system :-? It isn't Nano here: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/mc4817config.

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > If you go for medium or large font sizes, then using -fa / faceName and an > > Xft name instead of -fn / font for an X11 fot is probably a good idea: it > > gives anti-aliasing and the choice of fonts nowadays is slightly larger. > > > >

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 15:45:51 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Siard a écrit : > > xterm*VT100.font: -efont-fixed-medium-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* > > If you go for medium or large font sizes, then using -fa / faceName and an > Xft name instead of -fn / font for an

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 12:55:18 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 17:42:51 Gene Heskett wrote: > > not that I've found, but the sob is tearing down my system down even > > as I gave it a q after looking at a list of packages it wants to > > remove. If I cannot control it, it will NEVER be

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Michael Lange
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:19:49 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 12:54:36 Felix Miata wrote: > > > Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 12:42 (UTC-0400): > > > I am left with nano as the only editor I can find... > > > > > > So, it has emasculated my system, all the editors except

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 12:54:36 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 12:42 (UTC-0400): > > I am left with nano as the only editor I can find... > > > > So, it has emasculated my system, all the editors except nano are > > gone, > > What's wrong with MC's editor running in Konso

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Curt a écrit : > I believe ~/.Xdefaults is what they call deprecated and ~/.Xresources > should be used. > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/x_resources It is a bit more complicated than that. ~/.Xresources is loaded into the resources database of the X11

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-12, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> You did 'xrdb ~/.Xresources' to reread the file after making the >> changes? > > No, it assumed it was read when needed. Funny. > Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Hypertext--or should I say the ideology of hypertext?--is ultrademocratic and so entirely in harmo

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 17:42:51 Gene Heskett wrote: > not that I've found, but the sob is tearing down my system down even as I > gave it a q after looking at a list of packages it wants to remove. If I > cannot control it, it will NEVER be used here again.  It will take days > to re-install the st

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 12:42 (UTC-0400): I am left with nano as the only editor I can find... So, it has emasculated my system, all the editors except nano are gone, What's wrong with MC's editor running in Konsole? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant w

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 12:23:48 Curt wrote: > On 2016-06-12, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> XTerm.font: 9x15 > >> > >> into your ~/.Xresources file. > > > > Did that, no change. What did make it usable was checking the use > > trutype fonts box. That made the font about 4x bigger so I was able > > to

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 11:43:05 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 16:18:18 Gene Heskett wrote: > > with aptitude, like mc, whatever terminal its running IN, MUST DO > > ncurses emulations.  And that is compulsory! > > Gene, that is rubbish. aptitude at the CLI is just that. At the CLI.

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Siard
Curt: > Siard: > > Besides that, settings can be entered in ~/.Xdefaults. I have these > > lines in it: > > I believe ~/.Xdefaults is what they call deprecated and ~/.Xresources > should be used. > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/x_resources ~/.Xresources does not work here (Stretch); ~/.

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-12, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> XTerm.font: 9x15 >> >> into your ~/.Xresources file. > > Did that, no change. What did make it usable was checking the use trutype > fonts box. That made the font about 4x bigger so I was able to set that > back to middle sized. > You did 'xrdb ~/.Xreso

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 10:27:54 Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:17:42 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > FWIW. there is a 3rd choice in the system menu, called UXTerm. Looks > > identical to xterm, totally non-configurable like xterm. So thats > > more wasted hd space to me.

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-12, Siard wrote: > > Besides that, settings can be entered in ~/.Xdefaults. I have these > lines in it: > I believe ~/.Xdefaults is what they call deprecated and ~/.Xresources should be used. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/x_resources -- Hypertext--or should I say the ideolog

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-12, Michael Lange wrote: > > actually it is not that hard to configure xterm (or other "old-fashioned" > terminal apps), for example to change xterm's font size simply put a line > like > > XTerm.font: 9x15 > > into your ~/.Xresources file. > > Best regards > > Michael > > I have the f

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 16:18:18 Gene Heskett wrote: > with aptitude, like mc, whatever terminal its running IN, MUST DO ncurses > emulations.  And that is compulsory! Gene, that is rubbish. aptitude at the CLI is just that. At the CLI. Like any other CLI command. The n-curses interface is vol

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 10:27:03 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 15:17:42 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Konsole can also be made usable I believe. The std "schema" needs a > > few changes to its current defaults but it can be made quite usable, > > so its a possible alternative. > > > > Regard

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
It may depend on the version of apt-get. Version 1.2.13 has apt-get purge avahi-daemon Regards, jvp.

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 09:49:11 Martin Read wrote: [...] > xterm *does* have a configuration menu, it's just hidden behind a > rather obscure (and painfully "vintage X11") UI gesture. (Control + > right-drag). Here, its ctrl(left, didn't try right) and what pops up doesn't need a drag, but its 3

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 15:37:17 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 06:08:54 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 12 June 2016 01:49:27 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > 2 > > > firefox > > > firefox-esr > > > And esr is a version 45 something, figuratively speaking, a few > > > months long in the toot

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Siard a écrit : > xterm*VT100.font: -efont-fixed-medium-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* If you go for medium or large font sizes, then using -fa / faceName and an Xft name instead of -fn / font for an X11 fot is probably a good idea: it gives anti-aliasing and th

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 08:42:51 David Wright wrote: > On Sun 12 Jun 2016 at 02:02:45 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 11 June 2016 23:04:27 David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat 11 Jun 2016 at 20:49:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Saturday 11 June 2016 17:35:11 Lisi Reisz wrote:

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 06:08:54 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 01:49:27 Gene Heskett wrote: > > 2 > > firefox > > firefox-esr > > And esr is a version 45 something, figuratively speaking, a few > > months long in the tooth. > > They are different. Uninstall the one you don't want. es

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Siard
Martin Read: > Gene Heskett: > > Found xterm but it opens a window about 2.75"x3.5", and uses a text > > font so small it gets 80 columns out of that 3.5", so its almost > > unreadable, and has no configuration menus at all over and above what > > I can do to it thru the tde configuration facility,

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 06:02:34 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 07:02:45 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Basically, when you back up > > What does "back up" mean in this context? (Remember that pond, Gene - > or is this Gene-speak or my aphasia???) The small one yes, the Titanic is on the bot

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:17:42 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > > FWIW. there is a 3rd choice in the system menu, called UXTerm. Looks > identical to xterm, totally non-configurable like xterm. So thats more > wasted hd space to me. > actually it is not that hard to configure xterm (or other

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 15:17:42 Gene Heskett wrote: > Konsole can also be made usable I believe. The std "schema" needs a few > changes to its current defaults but it can be made quite usable, so its > a possible alternative. > > Regards Lisi. Konsole can very easily be made very usable. I use it

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 06:00:10 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 01:49:27 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Maybe, but that ncurses face on aptitube is a total turn-off, and > > will be until aptitude figures out how to make ncurses redraw the > > whole screen instead of leave a kilobyte of text c

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Martin Read
On 12/06/16 14:23, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 12 June 2016 06:00:03 Martin Read wrote: If ncurses programs that other people use without incident are screwing up the contents of your terminals, my first port of call would be checking that the value of the TERM environment variable matches rea

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 06:00:03 Martin Read wrote: > On 12/06/16 07:12, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And I have never not seen it. On several different mother boards, > > and probably 2x the video cards. If there is a difference, I've not > > a clue. > > If ncurses programs that other people use witho

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread David Wright
On Sun 12 Jun 2016 at 02:02:45 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 11 June 2016 23:04:27 David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 11 Jun 2016 at 20:49:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Saturday 11 June 2016 17:35:11 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > No, Gene. All created because you didn't trust the p

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 12:26:36 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:08:54AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > [...] > > > # aptitude purge firefox-esr > > (since that seems to be the one you don't want). Or equivalent. I don't > > kn

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:08:54AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: [...] > # aptitude purge firefox-esr > (since that seems to be the one you don't want). Or equivalent. I don't > know > the correct apt-get incantation for purge [...] Just use 'remove

Re: granular acl in tmux

2016-06-12 Thread Lars Noodén
On 06/12/2016 01:53 PM, Bob wrote: > Hello Lars, > > Thanks for your attention. I can see tmux presently doesn't have the > read-only solution as screen. And I like to make it simple without > touching sshd. I appreciate your solution regarding rwx by socket. > Though in screen we can change the a

Re: granular acl in tmux

2016-06-12 Thread Bob
Hello Lars, Thanks for your attention. I can see tmux presently doesn't have the read-only solution as screen. And I like to make it simple without touching sshd. I appreciate your solution regarding rwx by socket. Though in screen we can change the acl through command mode. Say many users in

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Joe
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 11:08:54 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 01:49:27 Gene Heskett wrote: > > 2 > > firefox > > firefox-esr > > And esr is a version 45 something, figuratively speaking, a few > > months long in the tooth. > > They are different. Uninstall the one you don't wa

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Martin Read
On 12/06/16 07:12, Gene Heskett wrote: And I have never not seen it. On several different mother boards, and probably 2x the video cards. If there is a difference, I've not a clue. If ncurses programs that other people use without incident are screwing up the contents of your terminals, my fi

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 01:49:27 Gene Heskett wrote: > 2 > firefox > firefox-esr > And esr is a version 45 something, figuratively speaking, a few months > long in the tooth. They are different. Uninstall the one you don't want. esr is long term support. # aptitude purge firefox-esr (since tha

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 07:02:45 Gene Heskett wrote: > Basically, when you back up What does "back up" mean in this context? (Remember that pond, Gene - or is this Gene-speak or my aphasia???)

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 01:49:27 Gene Heskett wrote: > Maybe, but that ncurses face on aptitube is a total turn-off, and will be > until aptitude figures out how to make ncurses redraw the whole screen > instead of leave a kilobyte of text covering 20% of the screen real > estate.  And it been that

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread cbannister
On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 02:05:48AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I do use apt-get, when I can easily copy/paste what I want it to do, but > it hates my spelling otherwise. Thats my fault of course, but there it > is. That's where tab completion comes in very handy. :) -- The media's the most p