On Nov 20, 2015, at 9:48 PM, moxalt wrote:
>> "Should"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/should
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/should
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/should
Chill a bit, folks. There's no question that vi is better than emacs :-)..
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:28:39 -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> moxalt writes:
> > Not really. Both are actions I would engage in, and would like others
> > to do the same. I never thought the word 'should' was such a big
> > issue.
>
> Right. "Should" is just an opinion. If you don't like it ignor
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 05:19:46 -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:43:49 +0300
> moxalt wrote:
>
> > Should (there it is again!) I simply deliver my opinions
> > in terms of imperatives- do this and do that?
>
> You could, without trying to impose your opinions on othe
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 05:28:25 -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:53:09 +0300
> moxalt wrote:
>
> > Very well. I shall reformulate my earlier posts. Here is the first instance
> > of my vicious and triggering usage of the word 'should':
>
> > For those websites which
moxalt writes:
> Not really. Both are actions I would engage in, and would like others
> to do the same. I never thought the word 'should' was such a big
> issue.
Right. "Should" is just an opinion. If you don't like it ignore it.
Or express your own contrary opinion.
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John Hasler
jhas...@ne
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 05:19:46 -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:43:49 +0300
> moxalt wrote:
>
> > Should (there it is again!) I simply deliver my opinions
> > in terms of imperatives- do this and do that?
>
> You could, without trying to impose your opinions on othe
On 11/20/2015 01:04 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Anyone with physical access can do whatever they want. You can set up
restrictions in the BIOS or set restrictions in the boot loader, but
they still can take the disk out and read or modify it with another
machine.
To protect against this you can u
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:10:38PM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote:
> So the operations are simply setting up an environment for doing the
> rescue, not overwriting the existing system? I'm happy to change my
> expectation if that's the case.Maybe by the end of it there is a more
> complete system, e
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Chris Bannister
wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 09:46:34AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
>> LVM is much more flexible and less prone to do things to your data
>> than, say, the tools that re-size your partitions the hard way.
Thinking in terms of partitions as the thin
On Friday 20 November 2015 20:10:38 Ross Boylan wrote:
> In the meantime I've downloaded the first CD of the Debian live CD's.
??
Lisi
On Fri 20 Nov 2015 at 12:10:38 -0800, Ross Boylan wrote:
> So the operations are simply setting up an environment for doing the
> rescue, not overwriting the existing system? I'm happy to change my
> expectation if that's the case.Maybe by the end of it there is a more
> complete system, e.g.
(Sorry if this is a re-post ... I've just (I think) re-registered.)
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 22:10:02 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
Thanks Darac .. I'm sorry I missed the first part of your response -
answered here:
<>
>>
>> daud@debian:~$ lspci -nnk |grep udio 00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]:
Intel
>>
On Friday 20 November 2015 14:04:48 Ric Moore wrote:
> Charles Forsburg has passed away.
> http://www.anewtradition.com/obituaries/obituary/12060_Charles_Alton_F
>orsberg
Oh fudge. Damn. His rzsz software that I last built at version 3.3.6,
but made some serious speedups in, for the os9/nitros
Ross Boylan a écrit :
> So the operations are simply setting up an environment for doing the
> rescue, not overwriting the existing system?
Even in installer mode, nothing is written on the disks until you
validate the changes in partman, the partitioning tool.
So the operations are simply setting up an environment for doing the
rescue, not overwriting the existing system? I'm happy to change my
expectation if that's the case.Maybe by the end of it there is a more
complete system, e.g., with bash.
In the meantime I've downloaded the first CD of the
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 08:52:45PM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
[...]
> It appears that vgimportclone is defined as a bash script (1st line
> contains #!/bin/bash) but bash is not included in the Debian installer.
> I don't know if this script reall
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 04:20:29PM +, Martin Read wrote:
[...]
> Just so you know, this is a discouraged[2] (and completely
> unsupported) configuration.
> [2] https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Don.27t_make_a_FrankenDebian
This is general
On Fri 20 Nov 2015 at 11:18:41 -0800, Ross Boylan wrote:
> After booting the Debian 8.2 netinst iso I noticed a couple of oddities.
>
> First, I selected advanced and rescue, but this seemed to end up walking me
> through the installer. I was expecting to be dropped into a shell. At the
> scree
Ross Boylan a écrit :
> After booting the Debian 8.2 netinst iso I noticed a couple of oddities.
>
> First, I selected advanced and rescue, but this seemed to end up walking me
> through the installer.
Indeed, the first steps are identical to an installation.
> I was expecting to be dropped into
On 21/11/15 08:18, Ross Boylan wrote:
After booting the Debian 8.2 netinst iso I noticed a couple of oddities.
First, I selected advanced and rescue, but this seemed to end up walking
me through the installer. I was expecting to be dropped into a shell.
At the screen that asked for system name
After booting the Debian 8.2 netinst iso I noticed a couple of oddities.
First, I selected advanced and rescue, but this seemed to end up walking me
through the installer. I was expecting to be dropped into a shell. At the
screen that asked for system name I switched virtual terminals.
Second,
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 22:10:02 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
Thanks Darac .. I'm sorry I missed the first part of your response -
answered here:
<>
>>
>> daud@debian:~$ lspci -nnk |grep udio 00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]: Intel
>> Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD Audio [8086:a170] (rev 31)
>
> To che
Charles Forsburg has passed away.
http://www.anewtradition.com/obituaries/obituary/12060_Charles_Alton_Forsberg
--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
h
On Fri 20 Nov 2015 at 19:29:09 +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote:
> Pavel Volkov [2015-11-20 20:03:03+03] wrote:
>
> > What's the current officially recommended way to operate packages:
> > apt- utilities or aptitude? I heard aptitude development was stalled
> > and it offered no real advantages (not co
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 20:03:03 +0300
Pavel Volkov wrote:
> What's the current officially recommended way to operate packages:
> apt- utilities or aptitude?
> I heard aptitude development was stalled and it offered no real
> advantages (not counting interactive mode).
>
Aptitude has more intellige
Pavel Volkov [2015-11-20 20:03:03+03] wrote:
> What's the current officially recommended way to operate packages:
> apt- utilities or aptitude? I heard aptitude development was stalled
> and it offered no real advantages (not counting interactive mode).
There's no "the" way for normal use. Releas
What's the current officially recommended way to operate packages: apt-
utilities or aptitude?
I heard aptitude development was stalled and it offered no real advantages
(not counting interactive mode).
On 2015-11-20 15:56 +0100, Decstasy wrote:
> Hello,
>
> since there is systemd some things have changed... Anyway I hope
> someone here can help me :)
>
> I want to change the default chmod of /dev/pts/* from 620 to 660.
Are you sure you want to this? Reasonable values are 620 and 600,
depending
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:07:49AM -0500, Kynn Jones wrote:
OK, I start with my 100% `stable` (`jessie`) system up-to-date. IOW,
after `apt-get update`, `apt-get upgrade` reports that there are no
candidates for upgrading:
% sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building
d
On 20/11/15 15:07, Kynn Jones wrote:
Also, I set the contents of my `/etc/apt/preferences` file to this
(the file was empty before):
Package: *
Pin: release a=stable
Looking at the Debian wiki's page on APT preferences[1] and comparing to
your file, I notice that you haven't speci
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 04:02:41PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 02:56:53AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 01:35:34PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:37:06PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> >
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On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 02:56:53AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 01:35:34PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:37:06PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Please stop preaching.
> >
>
Hello,
since there is systemd some things have changed... Anyway I hope someone
here can help me :)
I want to change the default chmod of /dev/pts/* from 620 to 660. In the
past it can be changed by /etc/defaults/devpts
But it does not work at all. I could not find any entry in /etc/fstab or
OK, I start with my 100% `stable` (`jessie`) system up-to-date. IOW,
after `apt-get update`, `apt-get upgrade` reports that there are no
candidates for upgrading:
% sudo apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Ca
Is there anywhere a kind of Howto or overview, how to interpret (as
non-Debian-developper) a Debian transition overview page?
For example
https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/libstdc++6.html
konsole, kate and a lot of others are marked red / "bad"
Does that mean they will be unusable if I
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 01:35:34PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:37:06PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Please stop preaching.
>
> (Darn. Seems I was too subtle last time)
>
> Now you're preaching. Preachers preach... and they're important too
Ummm, no.
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:37:06PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
[...]
> Please stop preaching.
(Darn. Seems I was too subtle last time)
Now you're preaching. Preachers preach... and they're important too
(preaching is not really my thing, but OTOH we w
On Friday 20 November 2015 08:47:25 Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 07:01:41PM +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> > This reminds of an outcome that makes your system vulnerable to data
> > theft. Following the above steps, anyone having physical access to the
> > device by
>
> What a
On Friday 20 November 2015 06:43:49 moxalt wrote:
> > Especially on this forum
> > on occasions where people are only using the Debian repositories.
>
> I don't understand this.
This is the Debian users mailing list. It is in my opinion very inappropriate
to chastise people on the Debian mailin
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 09:45:48AM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Using strace, the difference seems to be that apt-get clean removes
> /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin. However you don't need to run apt-get
> update : this file seems to be rebuilt by any apt command.
>
> apt-get clean
> apt-cache sho
Himanshu Shekhar a écrit :
> This reminds of an outcome that makes your system vulnerable to data theft.
> Following the above steps, anyone having physical access to the device by
> any means (which is more likely in case of mobile devices), could gain root
> access and do whatever one wants to do
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:56:32PM +, David Parfitt wrote:
> [This mail was also posted to linux.debian.user.]
Ummm, aren't they all eventually?
--
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the
oppress
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 03:33:13PM +, David Parfitt wrote:
>
> I've often noticed recommendations to uninstall pulseaudio but never seen
> a case where it has been reported to work :) apt-get purge pulseaudio
> wants to take gnome & lots of other stuff with it :((
JFTR, it worked for me, b
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 07:01:41PM +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> This reminds of an outcome that makes your system vulnerable to data theft.
> Following the above steps, anyone having physical access to the device by
What above steps? The context is lost! :(
--
"If you're not careful, the new
Chris Bannister a écrit :
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 06:41:50AM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote:
>> Brian:
>>> To remove every package and the package lists in apt/archives:
>>>
>>> apt-get clean.
>> The package lists are unaffected by the clean operation. You do not need
>> to run an update afterward
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:53:09 +0300
moxalt wrote:
> Very well. I shall reformulate my earlier posts. Here is the first instance of
> my vicious and triggering usage of the word 'should':
> For those websites which still require Flash, IMHO it would be better if you
> found some way of downloadin
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 07:01:49PM -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
[...]
> It's arrogant as soon as you use the word "should".
You should not should (there, now we have a mess ;-P
I get your both's point. Uh, whatever.
Cheers
- -- tomás
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 06:41:50AM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> Brian:
> >
> > To remove every package and the package lists in apt/archives:
> >
> > apt-get clean.
>
> The package lists are unaffected by the clean operation. You do not need
> to run an update afterwards.
Then explain the d
Joel Rees a écrit :
>
> I think I have heard of people booting straight out of LVM partitions,
> but that takes more gum tape than I like to use. I do believe grub is
> able to look into LVM partitions somewhat these days,
Indeed. And Linux software RAID.
> so you may want
> to play with having
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:43:49 +0300
moxalt wrote:
> Should (there it is again!) I simply deliver my opinions
> in terms of imperatives- do this and do that?
You could, without trying to impose your opinions on others, just tell tell
them what you do, and let them decide whether to follow your e
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 02:33:50PM +, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 09:08:35 -0500
> Whit Hansell wrote:
>
> Hello Whit,
>
> >is very small and won't really give me much room. Can anyone with
> >knowledge give me the subdirectories in var/cache that I can empty to
> >get a reas
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