Re: stuck on 7.7 and unable to upgrade :(

2015-09-29 Thread Roman
Hi, Thank you for an answer. Got my problem solved. It was due to priorities for apt. Had the line "stable" in the priority file, while wheezy has moved to oldstable. 2015-09-30 1:42 GMT+03:00 Stephen Allen : > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 05:31:29PM +0300, Roman wrote: > > Hei guys, > > > > Seems l

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

2015-09-29 Thread rlharris
On Wed, September 30, 2015 1:08 am, Heracles wrote: > I just installed Google-Earth using "synaptic" in Debian8 and it worked > fine. It had to install a few other bits and pieces but as it did all the > work I was fine with it. Google-earth works without errors. Heracles So I have wasted an entir

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

2015-09-29 Thread Joel Rees
Do I beg to disagree, or do I simply want to beef? Well, I've done a bit of beefing, and when I get a few free moments, this thread may result in another post on a certain blog of mine. Probably not today. Anyone interested in wasting a few more moments reading about free-is-not-free is welcome to

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

2015-09-29 Thread Heracles
On 30/09/15 15:55, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: On Wed, September 30, 2015 12:38 am, Heracles wrote: I'm not sure if it still the case, but to get google-earth working on my 64 bit system some months ago I had to patch the script and repack the package. The instructions on what was required was

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

2015-09-29 Thread rlharris
On Wed, September 30, 2015 12:38 am, Heracles wrote: > I'm not sure if it still the case, but to get google-earth working on my > 64 bit system some months ago I had to patch the script and repack the > package. The instructions on what was required was (and probably still is) > available on the ne

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

2015-09-29 Thread Heracles
On 30/09/15 14:20, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: Leaving debian, ubuntu, redhat, ms and all the others aside for a sec, what a company expects from a sysadmin is not to be programmer. Can we keep religious wars off the list. They fill up the inbox and achieve nothing. Sysadmins administer whate

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

2015-09-29 Thread Heracles
On 30/09/15 14:31, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: Further progress: Launching googlearth from a terminal prompt produces the error message: /usr/lib/googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.4 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Jessie has the follo

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

2015-09-29 Thread rlharris
Further progress: Launching googlearth from a terminal prompt produces the error message: /usr/lib/googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.4 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Jessie has the following libcurl3 packages: libcurl3 libcurl3-

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

2015-09-29 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
Hey Reco, I want to verify couple things to make sure we do understand couple basics. What certifies a sysadmin? is there any requirement else then knowledge and experience? is there an alternative to understanding the fundamentals of computers? And I would try to clear the question in couple

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

2015-09-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
> You may just be cheap, Reco. I'm willing to pay for what is not free > when I deem it is worth my money to do so. YMMV. Free Software is about freedom, not about money, nor about technical advantages. Freedom to run the software without having to accept some ridiculous EULA. Freedom to share t

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

2015-09-29 Thread Seeker
On 9/29/2015 10:33 AM, Reco wrote: No, you are wrong here. First, you're trying to introduce a false dichotomy as if 'proprietary' and 'non-free' are different somehow. Second, 'non-free' is *always* a bad choice. /"Hear me now, I have seen the light! // //They have a consciousness, they ha

googleearth-package (jessie)

2015-09-29 Thread rlharris
Progress report: I followed the tutorial http://sparkylinux.org/forum/index.php?topic=2535.0. dpkg reported two missing dependencies, namely, libfreeimage3 and lsb-core. To install them, synaptic needed to uninstall googleearth. After installing the two packages, I executed the dpkg -i command

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

2015-09-29 Thread rlharris
On Tue, September 29, 2015 8:18 pm, Stuart Longland wrote: > On 30/09/15 10:20, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: >> Using synaptic, I installed "googleearth-package". But I cannot figure >> out what to do with it. > I understood Google Earth was going the way of the dodo, so `dpkg -r` > might be the be

Re: Touchpad not working properly on ASUS T300LA

2015-09-29 Thread Stuart Longland
On 28/09/15 17:53, Arief M Utama wrote: > Doesn't worked, > Touchpad is not detected at all. > > I'm looking at kernel drivers now. I'd have a look at X.org drivers first. Specifically the Synaptics input driver, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is the name of the package in Debian. I have a Panaso

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

2015-09-29 Thread Stuart Longland
On 30/09/15 10:20, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > Using synaptic, I installed "googleearth-package". But I cannot figure > out what to do with it. I understood Google Earth was going the way of the dodo, so `dpkg -r` might be the best thing to do with it. -- Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL

googleearth-package (jessie)

2015-09-29 Thread rlharris
Using synaptic, I installed "googleearth-package". But I cannot figure out what to do with it. A search with google turned up one article, dated 2015-02-14 titled "Installing Google Earth on 64 bit Debian Jessie", but the article does not mention "googleearth-package". I looked at the QA page of

Re: Deleting i386 packages

2015-09-29 Thread Stuart Longland
On 23/09/15 00:14, Reco wrote: > $ dpkg -I teamviewer_10.0.46203_amd64.deb | grep Depe > Depends: bash (>= 3.0), libc6-i386 (>= 2.4), lib32asound2, lib32z1, > libxext6, ia32-libs > > A fine example of non-multiarch package which declared amd64 arch while > providing i386 binaries only. It was pr

Re: stuck on 7.7 and unable to upgrade :(

2015-09-29 Thread Stephen Allen
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 05:31:29PM +0300, Roman wrote: > Hei guys, > > Seems like I need your help. > Can't go much more further... > > Reading package lists... Done > W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: > 7638D0442B90D010 > W: There is no public key available for the f

Re: firestarter

2015-09-29 Thread Alex Vong
Hi Paul, You are lucky not to able to install it! firestarter contained a grave bug that will make booting impossible . Besides, the package was being abandoned by the upstream developers

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

2015-09-29 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 01:22:09PM -0400, Doug wrote: > > > On 09/27/2015 04:12 PM, Bob Holtzman wrote: > >On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 02:58:20PM +0300, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > >>On 27/09/2015 13:47, Reco wrote: > >>> > >The above is one of the main reasons that many sysadmins prefer to use > >

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

2015-09-29 Thread Doug
On 09/29/2015 02:52 PM, Joe wrote: /very large snip/ And the other really big difference between the free and non-free worlds is that writers of free software are (so far, mostly) not under the impression that they own your computer and are free to do as they like with your Internet connectio

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

2015-09-29 Thread Doug
On 09/29/2015 01:33 PM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 01:22:09PM -0400, Doug wrote: /major snip/ Among programs which are not open and not free are several CAD programs That's hardly everyone's necessity. and at least one office suite. That Chineese one, or M$ on

Re: A mouse and keyboard problem (randomly lose keystrokes)

2015-09-29 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 20:16 +0200, Alfonso García wrote: > Hi, I experience a mouse and keyboard strange behavior since debian 7 > to 8 > update. Sometimes, when X windows system started, the USB mouse > doesn't work > and the USB keyboard loses randomly groups of keystrokes. This not > happen > ev

Re: Debian on Dlink DNS-320

2015-09-29 Thread Alexandre GRIVEAUX
Le 28/09/2015 21:54, Andrew McGlashan a écrit : > Hi, > > On 28/09/2015 7:32 PM, Alexandre GRIVEAUX wrote: >> I want to install debian on DNS-320, i can start debian installer but at >> the end i'm stuck at installing the kernel. >> I'm missing a partition scheme, i guess the file system is on sda(

Re: A mouse and keyboard problem (randomly lose keystrokes)

2015-09-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 29 September 2015 19:16:03 Alfonso García wrote: > Hi, I experience a mouse and keyboard strange behavior since debian 7 to 8 > update. Sometimes, when X windows system started, the USB mouse doesn't > work and the USB keyboard loses randomly groups of keystrokes. This not > happen ever

Re: Terminal Madness?

2015-09-29 Thread Bob Bernstein
I wish I could post a [SOLVED] message for this thread, but due to being a tad under the weather I cannot. Thanks to all who chimed in. I have convinced myself that no other instances of alpine have been running, and the .pinerc file was not being opened by any other process. I know this is t

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

2015-09-29 Thread Joe
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:38:33 +0300 Reco wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 07:03:57PM +0300, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > > +1 > > > > * And if indeed the basic requirement from a system operator would > > be "a programmer" then it would suck to be a sysadmin for many. > > -1. > > Being a sysadmin

A mouse and keyboard problem (randomly lose keystrokes)

2015-09-29 Thread Alfonso García
Hi, I experience a mouse and keyboard strange behavior since debian 7 to 8 update. Sometimes, when X windows system started, the USB mouse doesn't work and the USB keyboard loses randomly groups of keystrokes. This not happen ever and sometimes every works fine This happened some of you before? I

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

2015-09-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 29 September 2015 18:33:41 Reco wrote: > Confusing 'open-source' with 'free software' is a common mistake. No, Reco. _You_ are confusing the language. In English English "free software" measn BOTH "open source" and "costs nothing". He is confusing nothing, though he certainly didn

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

2015-09-29 Thread Reco
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 07:03:57PM +0300, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > +1 > > * And if indeed the basic requirement from a system operator would be "a > programmer" then it would suck to be a sysadmin for many. -1. Being a sysadmin requires task automation (among other things), and that inevitably

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

2015-09-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 01:22:09PM -0400, Doug wrote: > > > On 09/27/2015 04:12 PM, Bob Holtzman wrote: > >On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 02:58:20PM +0300, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > >>On 27/09/2015 13:47, Reco wrote: > >>> > >The above is one of the main reasons that many sysadmins pref

Re: Deleting i386 packages

2015-09-29 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
Hey Chris, It doesn't matter if some would like them to just vanish. They do commit to the client but the scale of things might not be understood by all in the same level\manner. MS doesn't and cannot commit to software maintenance in certain levels. I do not know how much money they have and i

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

2015-09-29 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
+1 * And if indeed the basic requirement from a system operator would be "a programmer" then it would suck to be a sysadmin for many. Eliezer On 27/09/2015 20:22, Doug wrote: There is Linux software that is proprietary and not free. Just because that's the case does not make such software a

Re: Connection failure: Amavis-> ClamAV

2015-09-29 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi! On 29/09/15 11:30, Daniel Bareiro wrote: >> The pidfile was generated: >> >> root@mail:/var/run/clamav# ll >> total 8 >> -rw-rw-r-- 1 clamav clamav 5 sep 29 10:26 clamd.pid >> -rw-rw 1 clamav clamav 5 sep 29 10:25 freshclam.pid >> >> But it seems the socket file is not created. > I see t

stuck on 7.7 and unable to upgrade :(

2015-09-29 Thread Roman
Hei guys, Seems like I need your help. Can't go much more further... Reading package lists... Done W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 7638D0442B90D010 W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 9D6D8F6BC857C906 W: There is no public key available fo

Re: Connection failure: Amavis-> ClamAV

2015-09-29 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, again! On 29/09/15 10:56, Daniel Bareiro wrote: > The pidfile was generated: > > root@mail:/var/run/clamav# ll > total 8 > -rw-rw-r-- 1 clamav clamav 5 sep 29 10:26 clamd.pid > -rw-rw 1 clamav clamav 5 sep 29 10:25 freshclam.pid > > But it seems the socket file is not created. I see t

Possible bug - stylus skips and is unusable on touchscreen for Lenovo LaVieZ

2015-09-29 Thread Susan Cragin
Hello, I think I have a bug. My Lenovo LaVie Z touchscreen does not work with a stylus. The pen "skips" so much it is unusable. I have tried multiple pens. I think I should file a bug under xinput, but maybe you have another idea? This is the device $ sudo lshw -class input *-usb:3

Connection failure: Amavis-> ClamAV

2015-09-29 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi all! I'm noticing that when sending emails, it is apparently failing the connection with ClamAV: - Sep 29 10:17:22 mail amavis[6178]: (06178-02) (!)connect to /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl failed, attempt #1: Can't connect to a UNIX s

Re: Terminal Madness?

2015-09-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt wrote: > I've seen things I thought were there that weren't, due to the internal > state of my machine. And then there is mad hardware ... I understand from the initial mail of this thread that alpine is more victim than offender. Being one of its users myself i can say that jed is not

xen qemu on nfs livelock

2015-09-29 Thread krichy
Dear users, We have a ganeti/xen cluster set up with shared file storage, the nfs server is a freenas server. It has happend the second time that vm's hosted on the shared file storage got blocked: Sep 29 05:50:49 node-5 kernel: [564977.898152] INFO: task qemu-system-i38:8138 blocked for m

Re: Terminal Madness?

2015-09-29 Thread Curt
On 2015-09-28, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > I am in an xterm window running in icewm, and its config looks > like this: > > xterm -fg white -bg black -geometry x26 -fa 'Deja vu Sans Bold' > -fs 24 > > (I've since changed to Luxi Mono just as a test of sorts.) I would have tried another text editor.

Re: Terminal Madness?

2015-09-29 Thread Curt
On 2015-09-29, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> ===> Has anyone EVA seen text file characters in an editor just change > before their eyes without any intervention from the operator? >> > Interesting what you find when you search the web for "EVA". (Extra > Vehicular Activity?) > I thought Bob was pronounc