Re: Another system management tool to disappear.

2015-09-03 Thread doark
On 08/30/2015 17:49:31,Doug wrote: > On 08/30/2015 03:33 PM, T.J. Duchene wrote: > > I know this because I have actually built 95% of base Linux from > > source by hand - multiple times - over the last 17 years. In my > > opinion, if you don't want to take the effort to do the work, then > > you

Re: systemd-logind emitting messages

2015-09-03 Thread David Niklas
Hello, I forget who asked how to copy lines from their terminal (Alt-F0-9), and I know how and thought I'd share. Use gpm. On my system it's shift left-mouse to highlight and shift right-mouse to paste to your prompt. you cant then echo the output to a file, pipe, or directly into a command, etc. S

Gnome Audio Alerts

2015-09-03 Thread Jose Martinez
Once again, the audio alerts on my gnome desktop have ceased to work. This problem occurred once before and was addressed here on the list. I have looked up that old thread on the debian.org site, and double checked everything that was mentioned there. I have checked that /org/gnome/desktop/

Re: is a2ps broken?

2015-09-03 Thread rlharris
On Thu, September 3, 2015 10:28 am, David Wright wrote: > Personally, a2ps has been broken for years because it doesn't handle > unicode. Fooey on unicode, then. I need a2ps; but I lived for years without unicode. > Quoting rlhar...@oplink.net (rlhar...@oplink.net): > >> With Lenny and a HP4100

Invitation to Emerge Cloud Day - Achieving Paperless Office with Cloud-based Document Management Solution

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Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-03 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 03.09.2015 um 03:14 schrieb Stephen Powell: > Do you know a similar technique for overriding individual udev rules in > a system-provided rules file? A similar mechanism exists for udev rules file. See man 7 udev -> "RULES FILES" -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent l

Re: Next Q, re amd64-microcode

2015-09-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: > [0.053621] CPU0: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ > stepping 02 > > Midway thru the dmesg after the reboot, dmesg reports: > [2.893141] microcode: AMD CPU family 0xf not supported It is as the kernel said... > My google-fu has loc

Re: is google earth safe to install?

2015-09-03 Thread Martin Read
On 03/09/15 22:06, Stuart Longland wrote: I'll bite, why an nVidia graphic card? I have a couple, but the Intel GPU in this laptop would run rings around most of them. Surely it only matters that it implements ${OPENGL_FEATURES} to a sufficient standard to run the application. OpenGL's archit

Re: the IBM keyboard

2015-09-03 Thread Stuart Longland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 31/08/15 12:29, David Wright wrote: >> This is not supported by evidence, e.g. >>> > >>> I'm struggling to see how this reference backs up your assertion. > The use-case is

Re: the IBM keyboard

2015-09-03 Thread Stuart Longland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 31/08/15 11:39, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Sun, August 30, 2015 8:18 pm, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> Oh joy! forgive my nose, especially since I missed this post at >> first. Still, I am typing right now, this very moment, on a real >> IBM clic

Re: Dell brightness issue

2015-09-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 03 September 2015 21:59:31 Stuart Longland wrote: > On 02/09/15 07:30, Clive Akem wrote: > > I have the same issue that when changing brightness, everything > > runs slowly even after restarting. Have you managed to solve it? > > Thanks > > The same issue as what? > Who do you mean by '

Re: is google earth safe to install?

2015-09-03 Thread Stuart Longland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/09/15 08:55, Ric Moore wrote: >> Perhaps we should team up and buy some better satellite data to >> "free" it? Kickstarter anyone? > > I'm building "Grit". I'll let everyone know how well it works. You > do need an nVidia graphic card though.

Re: Dell brightness issue

2015-09-03 Thread Stuart Longland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/09/15 07:30, Clive Akem wrote: > I have the same issue that when changing brightness, everything > runs slowly even after restarting. Have you managed to solve it? > Thanks The same issue as what? Who do you mean by 'you'? We'd like to help,

Re: Another system management tool to disappear.

2015-09-03 Thread Curt
On 2015-09-03, David Wright wrote: >> >> Interesting things which I discovered with the trials: >> Typing Ctrl-- reduces the console fontsize in konsole (KDE) and typing >> Ctrl-+ >> magnifies the console fontsize. >> It is the same no matter if using German layout or US layout. > > Fair enough

Re: Another system management tool to disappear.

2015-09-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting Eike Lantzsch (zp6...@gmx.net): > On Thursday 03 September 2015 15:09:12 Curt wrote: > > On 2015-09-02, Nicolas George wrote: > > > For me, Ctrl-AltGr-) gives ^] as expected, both with XTerm and the > > > Linux console. > > > > Me too. > Not me > The Ctrl-AltGr level is not populated in m

Re: Another system management tool to disappear.

2015-09-03 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Thursday 03 September 2015 19:35:08 Nicolas George wrote: > Le septidi 17 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Eike Lantzsch a écrit : > > Not me > > The Ctrl-AltGr level is not populated in my keyboard map. > > It does not necessarily needs to. > > > Interesting things which I discovered with the trials: >

Re: apt-get upgrade fails on custom repository

2015-09-03 Thread Stefano Pugnetti
Ok, I figured it out: lines containing md5sums of index files must start with a blank character. Stefano

Re: Another system management tool to disappear.

2015-09-03 Thread Nicolas George
Le septidi 17 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Eike Lantzsch a écrit : > Not me > The Ctrl-AltGr level is not populated in my keyboard map. It does not necessarily needs to. > Interesting things which I discovered with the trials: > Typing Ctrl-- reduces the console fontsize in konsole (KDE) and typing Ctr

Re: Another system management tool to disappear.

2015-09-03 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Thursday 03 September 2015 15:09:12 Curt wrote: > On 2015-09-02, Nicolas George wrote: > > For me, Ctrl-AltGr-) gives ^] as expected, both with XTerm and the > > Linux console. > > Me too. Not me The Ctrl-AltGr level is not populated in my keyboard map. Intl-keyboard with German layout and dea

Re: is a2ps broken?

2015-09-03 Thread David Wright
Personally, a2ps has been broken for years because it doesn't handle unicode. Quoting rlhar...@oplink.net (rlhar...@oplink.net): > With Lenny and a HP4100 PostScript printer, a two-pages-per-sheet spread > printed by a2ps is cut off on both the left and the right. Left and right wrt the sheet of

Re: Another system management tool to disappear.

2015-09-03 Thread Curt
On 2015-09-02, Nicolas George wrote: > > For me, Ctrl-AltGr-) gives ^] as expected, both with XTerm and the > Linux console. Me too.

Re: get software list of one software repository

2015-09-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting mudongliang (mudonglianga...@hotmail.com): >     There are some software repositories on my computer. >     For example , google chrome software repository >         deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main >     I also add ubuntu partner in my computer. >     What I want to a

Re: get software list of one software repository

2015-09-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 03 September 2015 15:32:35 mudongliang wrote: > Hello everyone : > There are some software repositories on my computer. > For example , google chrome software repository > deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main > I also add ubuntu partner in my comput

Re: Another system management tool to disappear.

2015-09-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting Seeker (seeker5...@comcast.net): > Some of this may have to be revisited later once more people actually > use it and have that first hand exposure to what works and what doesn't. ... > There is an argument for an easier key combination, but how do you > make it more accessible for people

apt-get upgrade fails on custom repository

2015-09-03 Thread Stefano Pugnetti
Hi all! I subscribed to the list 'cause I could not solve my problem with google (and all the relevant Debian documentation I could find...). I have created a local repository for distributing software inside my local network. I wanted to secure the process, so I opted for a hierarchical structur

Re: kde 5 display problem

2015-09-03 Thread Hans
Am Donnerstag, 3. September 2015, 12:30:20 schrieb Nick Zarkadas: > Hi Hans > I tried it but it didn't work. > Last week in the same machine I had installed fedora 22 and I didn't had > any problem with the desktop except the sddm screen (it was black and > white again.) Hi Nick, that is a pity

Re: Another system management tool to disappear.

2015-09-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Andrew McGlashan < andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au> wrote: > On 1/09/2015 3:08 AM, pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: > > If you want to exit the shell normally, typically the 'exit' command > > will suffice (it depends on your shell, obviously). > > And if, fo

Re: kde 5 display problem

2015-09-03 Thread Nick Zarkadas
Hi Hans I tried it but it didn't work. Last week in the same machine I had installed fedora 22 and I didn't had any problem with the desktop except the sddm screen (it was black and white again.)

Re: Another system management tool to disappear.

2015-09-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 2/09/2015 12:11 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > Which, I am afraid, puts you in the pattern of those who defend the > approach the cabal has taken. > > (Concerning the use of "cabal": > > http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html > > Although I'm not really sure they u

Re: Another system management tool to disappear.

2015-09-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 1/09/2015 11:08 PM, The Wanderer wrote: >> > west!david 12:22:14 ~ $ diff -U0 VC-login-*[ey] >> > --- VC-login-jessie 2015-08-31 11:34:23.476573261 -0500 >> > +++ VC-login-wheezy 2015-08-31 11:38:11.0 -0500 > How did you get these files? I haven't been able to come up with a wa

Re: Another system management tool to disappear.

2015-09-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 1/09/2015 3:08 AM, pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: > If you want to exit the shell normally, typically the 'exit' command > will suffice (it depends on your shell, obviously). And if, for some reason, you can't exit a shell normally; but you can login again in a different session, then you can

Re: "su is really a broken concept"

2015-09-03 Thread T.J. Duchene
You're probably right, Jonathan. "Su" is so common that it easy to make that error. After looking at the current POSIX list, I did not find it. Thank you for pointing that out. Be well! T.J. On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard < j.deboynepollard-newsgro...@ntlworld.com> wr

Re: Another system management tool to disappear.

2015-09-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 31/08/2015 10:33 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > Agreed. For what it's worth, I don't think this particular > iteration of the discussion has gotten nearly as heated or as > hostile or as harmful as many of the previous ones have done. Perhaps it is si

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-03 Thread Sven Hartge
Stephen Powell wrote: > Do you know a similar technique for overriding individual udev rules in > a system-provided rules file? Ah, that part is a white spot on my (mind)map. Maybe Michael Biebl can provide more input, as one of the DDs maintaining systemd and udev he should be able to provide

is a2ps broken?

2015-09-03 Thread rlharris
With Lenny and a HP4100 PostScript printer, a two-pages-per-sheet spread printed by a2ps is cut off on both the left and the right. A search with google reveals that a problem of this sort arose ten or twelve years ago, but I see no current reports. Papersize is configured for "letter" 8.5 x 11 i