Re: No feedback from systemd / "systemctl stop X"... Nothing on stdout, nothing that `echo $?` can see...

On 12 March 2015 at 01:13, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 11 Mar 2015, The Wanderer wrote: >> Running those commands doesn't give you output from 'systemctl stop >> foo' or the like, however. > >> I thought the OP was asking how to determine, from the exit code >> and/or the console output of 'sys

Re: No feedback from systemd / "systemctl stop X"... Nothing on stdout, nothing that `echo $?` can see...

On 12 March 2015 at 01:13, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Mar 2015, The Wanderer wrote: > > Running those commands doesn't give you output from 'systemctl stop > > foo' or the like, however. > > > I thought the OP was asking how to determine, from the exit code > > and/or the console output o

Re: No feedback from systemd / "systemctl stop X"... Nothing on stdout, nothing that `echo $?` can see...

On Wed, 11 Mar 2015, The Wanderer wrote: > Running those commands doesn't give you output from 'systemctl stop > foo' or the like, however. > I thought the OP was asking how to determine, from the exit code > and/or the console output of 'systemctl stop foo' (or a similar > command, one that actua

Re: No feedback from systemd / "systemctl stop X"... Nothing on stdout, nothing that `echo $?` can see...

On 03/11/2015 at 06:41 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 11 Mar 2015, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > >> But, I'm not seeing the same behavior when using systemd >> commands... I mean, how can I "track" systemd if it does provides >> any kind of "usual" outputs to stdout? >> >> What am I missing? > >

Re: My Friends Make Fun of My UI

On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 04:34:51PM -0700, Glenn English wrote: > > On Mar 4, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: > > > I would like to upgrade to Gnome so my desktop looks/feels a bit nicer > > and gain a few extra features I'm missing in LXDE. However, I don't > > want all the "stuff"

Re: server monitor

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Julien Groselle wrote: > Hi, > > For now, the best solution is to forget old solutions (cacti, munin, etc.) > and give a look to new ones based on scalability and effectiveness : > - Collectd - Small and lightweight stats > collector written

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

On Wednesday 11 March 2015 23:53:37 David Wright wrote: > A Debian version gets a codename long before it gets a number, even > before it exists (like buster), and that name never changes. It only > gets a number when it's released; in fact, it gets several: wheezy has > nine so far. Thanks, David

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

On Wednesday 11 March 2015 20:59:30 Bret Busby wrote: > No, whilst for some of us find the numbers more meaningful and easier > to understand, than version names, the discussion in the other thread, > was, from my understanding, redefining the state names, rather than > the version names. > > So, y

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > On 12/03/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 11 March 2015 16:34:15 David Wright wrote: > >> Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): > >> > Debian *7*, David. Wheezy. It was released some time ago!! > >> > >> Touché. That just goes to show ho

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

Bret Busby a écrit : > > So, now, what happens when one operating system is installed via > UEFI/GPT, and two are installed as BIOS/MBR, in terms of wanting to be > able to select any one of the three operating systems, to boot? Nothing special. Depending on its settings and priorities, the firmw

Re: No feedback from systemd / "systemctl stop X"... Nothing on stdout, nothing that `echo $?` can see...

On 2015-03-11, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:16:48 -0300 > Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > >> What am I missing? > > SysVinit... LOL. (Let's not start all that again.) > > Cheers, > > Ron. -- Liam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a sub

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

Bret Busby a écrit : > > Does Debian Linux 7 amd64, install as a UEFI/GPT operating system, or, > is it strictly a "legacy BIOS"/FAT/MBR system 1) Don't associate UEFI/GPT or BIOS/FAT/MBR. UEFI and BIOS/CSM/legacy are boot schemes. GPT and MBR are partition schemes. FAT is a just a filesystem typ

Re: No feedback from systemd / "systemctl stop X"... Nothing on stdout, nothing that `echo $?` can see...

On 2015-03-11, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > Hey guys, > > With SysVinit or Upstart, when we stop/start a service, we can see a > feedback from the command output. Like "service blah stopping..." You can do 'systemctl status blah.service'. It gives a nice summary (with colour!) of the status of the s

Re: How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

On 03/11/2015 06:24 PM, David Wright wrote: Quoting Jape Person (jap...@comcast.net): I maintain some remote systems that I don't want running a full file system check at inopportune times, but I do make certain that I force a check and examine the results on a regular basis. Anyway, that's why

Re: No feedback from systemd / "systemctl stop X"... Nothing on stdout, nothing that `echo $?` can see...

On Wed, 11 Mar 2015, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > But, I'm not seeing the same behavior when using systemd commands... > I mean, how can I "track" systemd if it does provides any kind of > "usual" outputs to stdout? > > What am I missing? If you want to know what the status of a service, you run sy

Re: How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

Quoting Jape Person (jap...@comcast.net): > I maintain some remote systems that I don't want running a full file > system check at inopportune times, but I do make certain that I > force a check and examine the results on a regular basis. Anyway, > that's why I don't simply modify grub behavior to

Re: No feedback from systemd / "systemctl stop X"... Nothing on stdout, nothing that `echo $?` can see...

On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:16:48 -0300 Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > What am I missing? SysVinit... Cheers, Ron. -- The light at the end of the tunnel may be the headlight of an approaching train. -- http:

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

On 03/11/2015 04:59 PM, Bret Busby wrote: On 12/03/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 11 March 2015 16:34:15 David Wright wrote: Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): On Wednesday 11 March 2015 15:46:55 David Wright wrote: Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): I have now found t

Re: How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

On 03/11/2015 04:44 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2015-03-11, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: * Jape Person [2015-03-11 14:04 -0400]: [...] I maintain some remote systems that I don't want running a full file system check at inopportune times, but I do make certain that I force a check and examine th

No feedback from systemd / "systemctl stop X"... Nothing on stdout, nothing that `echo $?` can see...

Hey guys, With SysVinit or Upstart, when we stop/start a service, we can see a feedback from the command output. Like "service blah stopping..." Also, we can use, for example, `echo $?`, after the command, to see if it was executed according, or not, for example: cat /etc/passwd echo $? 0

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

On 12/03/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 11 March 2015 16:34:15 David Wright wrote: >> Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): >> > On Wednesday 11 March 2015 15:46:55 David Wright wrote: >> > > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >> > > > I have now found that, against my wishes,

Re: How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

On 2015-03-11, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * Jape Person [2015-03-11 14:04 -0400]: > > [...] >> I maintain some remote systems that I don't want running a full file system >> check at inopportune times, but I do make certain that I force a check and >> examine the results on a regular basis. Anyw

Re: Iceape

On 2015-03-11, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> >> Actually, your output proves that it ISN'T. All the results are virtual >> packages, each of which is an Add-On for iceape (caused, presumably, >> because e.g. xul-ext-adblock-plus provides ice$ANIMAL-adblock-plus. > > Doh! I saw lots of iceape entries and d

Re: Installing Jessie on a computer that current has Windows 7 on it

On 20150310_1157-0500, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > > I have NO interest in dual boot. I simply want to wipe the disk and install > > Jessie. I have last weeks weekly build of debian-testing-i3k6-xfce-CD-1.iso. > > I starts nicely like I have seen many

Subject: Re: svn, subversion, repos

From: Frédéric Marchal Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 09:28:10 +0100 > I store the repositories in /var/svn/repos to make them available for > browsing > ... > On my server, the repositories can only be created by root. > ... All very helpful. Thanks. > If you want to let users administe

Re: How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

* Jape Person [2015-03-11 14:04 -0400]: [...] > I maintain some remote systems that I don't want running a full file system > check at inopportune times, but I do make certain that I force a check and > examine the results on a regular basis. Anyway, that's why I don't simply > modify grub behavi

How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

Hi! Because of the deprecated use of "# touch /forcefsck" as a method of forcing a file system check on the partition containin /root at boot time I posted here some time ago to see if there might be another way to invoke the function. I maintain some remote systems that I don't want running

Re: old software

On 03/11/2015 05:54 AM, D.E. Bil wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 09:33:43AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 11 March 2015 09:09:27 D.E. Bil wrote: Also, installing from unofficial repositories is a bad idea. Especially on a stable system. wheezy-backports an unofficial repository? Isn't

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

On 12/03/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 11/03/2015, David Wright wrote: >> Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >> >>> I have now found that, against my wishes, the Linux installations were >>> done as "legacy BIOS" installations, instead of UEFI/GPT >>> installations, so I now have a system

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

On Wednesday 11 March 2015 16:34:15 David Wright wrote: > Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): > > On Wednesday 11 March 2015 15:46:55 David Wright wrote: > > > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > > > > I have now found that, against my wishes, the Linux installations > > > > were do

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): > On Wednesday 11 March 2015 15:46:55 David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > > > I have now found that, against my wishes, the Linux installations were > > > done as "legacy BIOS" installations, instead of UEFI/GPT > > > insta

Re: Iceape

On Wednesday 11 March 2015 16:00:38 Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 03:56:27PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 11 March 2015 15:21:58 Bret Busby wrote: > > > On 11/03/2015, Thomas H. George wrote: > > > > Is iceape gone in Jessie? > > > > > > > > I am still using it regular

Re: old software

On Wednesday 11 March 2015 15:29:30 Brandon Foster wrote: > Just to jump in here- when I used Wheezy, the version of Wine was too old > and that led to a long path toward installing a newer version of Wine. At > the end of this path, I had totally blown away the version of libc that I > needed and

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > I have now found that, against my wishes, the Linux installations were > done as "legacy BIOS" installations, instead of UEFI/GPT > installations, so I now have a system that (after repairing the nasty > PC-BSD installation damage) kind of works, but, t

Re: old software

Just to jump in here- when I used Wheezy, the version of Wine was too old and that led to a long path toward installing a newer version of Wine. At the end of this path, I had totally blown away the version of libc that I needed and learned a very important lesson : Don't mix unstable with stable.

Re: Iceape

On 11/03/2015, Thomas H. George wrote: > Is iceape gone in Jessie? > > I am still using it regularly in Wheezy and it still shows up in > apt-cache search iceape when run from Wheezy but is missing when I run > the search from Jessie. > > iceape is present in Debian 6, but in Debian 7, I believe

Iceape

Is iceape gone in Jessie? I am still using it regularly in Wheezy and it still shows up in apt-cache search iceape when run from Wheezy but is missing when I run the search from Jessie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Greyed Out Icons in Jessie Gnome All Applications Screens

How can I get rid of them? These greyed out icons appear along with real program icons, but they are not programs. Most are related to screen savers. I do not use a screen saver. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: SOLVED: systemd uses transient hostname instead of static hostname

On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 15:14 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 2015-03-11 14:44, schrieb Hanspeter Kunz: > > On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 14:26 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> What's the content of your /etc/hostname? > >> What's the output of "ls -la /etc/os-release /usr/lib/os-release" and > >> the conte

Re: SOLVED: systemd uses transient hostname instead of static hostname

Am 2015-03-11 14:44, schrieb Hanspeter Kunz: On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 14:26 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: What's the content of your /etc/hostname? What's the output of "ls -la /etc/os-release /usr/lib/os-release" and the content of those files. [..] this looks fine to me. yep anyhow I realiz

Re: MRTG ERROR

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/03/15 01:49, Gary Dale wrote: > On 11/03/15 07:40 AM, "Diác. C.J.Moretti" wrote: >> Hello! >> >> A few days to hj'm getting a mail from my server with the >> following error: >> >> >> Cron if [ -x /usr/bin/mrtg ] && [ -r >> /etc/mrtg.cfg ] &&

SOLVED: systemd uses transient hostname instead of static hostname

On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 14:26 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 2015-03-10 00:18, schrieb Hanspeter Kunz: > > Hi list, > > > > i just upgraded a few systems to jessie an noticed that all of them > > "loose" their hostnames on reboot, because systemd is using/reverting > > to > > "Linux" as transient

Re: Installing Openbox

On 2015-03-11 06:20, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2015, Derek Jansen wrote: Openbox refuses to start after its installation. I get dropped into TTY1. Using startx works, but Debian will not automatically bring my to TTY7 for Openbox to start. This is normal. (And the way I wanted it.

Re: usermod and systemd

Am 2015-03-11 11:31, schrieb Martin Read: On 11/03/15 02:49, Roberto De Oliveira wrote: I have a weird behavior on my system, I'm trying to change a home directory with "usermod -d newhome foo" but the system denies because "usermod: user foo is currently used by process ", when I look for P

Re: systemd uses transient hostname instead of static hostname

Am 2015-03-10 00:18, schrieb Hanspeter Kunz: Hi list, i just upgraded a few systems to jessie an noticed that all of them "loose" their hostnames on reboot, because systemd is using/reverting to "Linux" as transient hostname. This happens early in the boot process. journalctl -b says: [...]

Re: MRTG ERROR

On 11/03/15 07:40 AM, "Diác. C.J.Moretti" wrote: Hello! A few days to hj'm getting a mail from my server with the following error: Cron if [ -x /usr/bin/mrtg ] && [ -r /etc/mrtg.cfg ] && [ -d "$(grep '^[[:space:]]*[^#]*[[:space:]]*WorkDir' /etc/mrtg.cfg | awk '{ print $NF }')" ]; then mkdir

Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

Hello. As has previously been posted, I have a UEFI system, which came with MS Win8 installed. I then installed Debian 7 on the system, and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, and, after the Debian 7 installation, the MS Win8 installation, was no longer accessible. However, I have found that the MS Win8 installat

MRTG ERROR

Hello! A few days to hj'm getting a mail from my server with the following error: Cron if [ -x /usr/bin/mrtg ] && [ -r /etc/mrtg.cfg ] && [ -d "$(grep '^[[:space:]]*[^#]*[[:space:]]*WorkDir' /etc/mrtg.cfg | awk '{ print $NF }')" ]; then mkdir -p /var/log/mrtg ; env LANG=C /usr/bin/mrtg /etc/

Re: old software

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:43:50AM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2015-03-11, D.E. Bil wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 09:33:43AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> On Wednesday 11 March 2015 09:09:27 D.E. Bil wrote: > >> > Also, installing from unofficial repositories is a bad idea. > >> > Especia

Re: usermod and systemd

On 11/03/15 02:49, Roberto De Oliveira wrote: I have a weird behavior on my system, I'm trying to change a home directory with "usermod -d newhome foo" but the system denies because "usermod: user foo is currently used by process ", when I look for PID I see "/lib/systemd/systemd --user"

Re: old software

On 2015-03-11, D.E. Bil wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 09:33:43AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Wednesday 11 March 2015 09:09:27 D.E. Bil wrote: >> > Also, installing from unofficial repositories is a bad idea. >> > Especially on a stable system. >> >> wheezy-backports an unofficial repository

Re: old software

On 2015-03-11, James wrote: > > > On 03/10/2015 08:23 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: >> On 2015-03-10, James wrote: >>> I installed Debian7 but it has old software. >>> I manually installed LibreOffice-4.4 (LibreOffice-3 was the default). >>> >>> I also want to upgrade VNC because the default is v2.0.3

Re: iceweasal vs long urls. Long url wins, iceweasal doesn't

On Wednesday 11 March 2015 00:09:45 Dan Purgert wrote: > On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 16:31:31 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [lotsa snipping] > > > > Now, I gotta go find some PVC fittings. Anybody know where I can > > find a circular saw that can cut an 19" diameter hole in a 40+ yo > > concrete floor?

Re: old software

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 09:33:43AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 11 March 2015 09:09:27 D.E. Bil wrote: > > Also, installing from unofficial repositories is a bad idea. > > Especially on a stable system. > > wheezy-backports an unofficial repository? Isn't that being a littl epurist? I

Re: Installing Openbox

On Wednesday 11 March 2015 09:06:00 Curt wrote: > On 2015-03-11, Ric Moore wrote: > > > EMACS is my operating system; Linux is my device driver. > > > > Sure you got that right?? > > Tongue, meet cheek? Cheek meet tongue. Kettle meet pot? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@

Re: old software

On Wednesday 11 March 2015 09:09:27 D.E. Bil wrote: > Also, installing from unofficial repositories is a bad idea. > Especially on a stable system. wheezy-backports an unofficial repository? Isn't that being a littl epurist? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.or

Re: old software

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 07:36:42PM -0400, James wrote: > I installed Debian7 but it has old software. It's the price of stability[1]. You might want to consider other distributions if you really need fresher software. Another option would be to run a mixed testing/unstable system[2], however if yo

Re: Installing Openbox

On 2015-03-11, Ric Moore wrote: > > > EMACS is my operating system; Linux is my device driver. > > Sure you got that right?? > Tongue, meet cheek? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Arc

Re: Installing Openbox

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:11:35PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Tue, 10 Mar 2015, Derek Jansen wrote: > > > Openbox refuses to start after its installation. I get dropped into > > TTY1. Using startx works, but Debian will not automatically bring my > > to TTY7 for Openbox to start. > > This

Re: iceweasal vs long urls. Long url wins, iceweasal doesn't

On 2015-03-11, Dan Purgert wrote: > > Local tool rental place, personally I'd use one of the small / > independent outfits instead of a big-box store (such as Home Depot). > > Though it's loads easier cutting a square hole than a round one. > What's hard is fitting a square peg in a round hol