Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 19:58:51 Don Armstrong did opine And Gene did reply: > On Tue, 20 Jan 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: > > and leave you with a miss-aligned disk that writes like its full of > > molsasses. Fdisk complains, gdisk will fix it, but what good does > > that do you when there is NO W

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 19:17:59 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: > On Wednesday 21 January 2015 00:02:41 Gene Heskett wrote: > > If there is a way, then maybe I'll try it again, but give me step by > > step I can printout and follow when there is no one in the room, or > > available via

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Gene Heskett wrote: > Bob Proulx did opine > And Gene did reply: > > > Go ahead and install its way, then run an fdisk -l and read the > > > result, confirmed by quite slow readings from hdparm -tT on the > > > drive you just installed it to. > > > > What problem are you seeing? Details? I assum

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Dom
On 22/01/15 01:36, Gene Heskett wrote: gene@coyote:~/Downloads$ parted /dev/sdb unit s print WARNING: You are not superuser. Watch out for permissions. Model: ATA ST1000VX000-1CU1 (scsi) Disk /dev/sdb: 1953525168s Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B Partition Table: gpt Number Start

Re: network newbie seeks assistance debugging iptables for VPN tunnel

2015-01-21 Thread Matt Ventura
On 1/21/2015 1:33 PM, Tom Roche wrote: Tom Roche Wed, 21 Jan 2015 12:50:04 -0500 [1] I need to tunnel one SSL VPN (F5, running on one debian host) through another (OpenVPN, running on another debian host), but lose networking (e.g., `ping`) after the F5 VPN connects. I'm not sure whether this i

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 16:29:45 Bob Proulx did opine And Gene did reply: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Bob Proulx did opine > > > > > You seem to believe that the Wheezy debian-installer does not > > > handle the new Advanced Format 4k sectors. However I use it all > > > of the time with 4k sec

Re: Wheezy is installed

2015-01-21 Thread Gary Dale
On 20/01/15 07:51 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 18:48:57 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 23:44:20 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: First question: Does it take a reboot before you can select kdm at login? I did 2 or 3 logouts & back in without b

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gary Dale
On 21/01/15 08:15 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 21 January 2015 15:40:02 Gary Dale did opine And Gene did reply: On 20/01/15 06:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 13:03:50 Gary Dale did opine And Gene did reply: On 20/01/15 09:37 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings;

Re: Wheezy is installed

2015-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 15:48:49 Gary Dale did opine And Gene did reply: > On 20/01/15 07:46 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 20 January 2015 18:44:20 Andrew M.A. Cater did opine > > > > And Gene did reply: > >> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 06:17:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Greetin

Re: Wheezy is installed

2015-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 18:48:57 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: > On Tuesday 20 January 2015 23:44:20 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > First question: Does it take a reboot before you can select kdm at > > > login? I did 2 or 3 logouts & back in without being presented with > > > a choi

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 15:40:02 Gary Dale did opine And Gene did reply: > On 20/01/15 06:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 20 January 2015 13:03:50 Gary Dale did opine > > > > And Gene did reply: > >> On 20/01/15 09:37 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Greetings; > >>> > >>> I just star

Re: How to recover a damaged partition

2015-01-21 Thread David Wright
Quoting Kevin O'Gorman (kogor...@gmail.com): > I'm working with new 4TB drives, and one of them just had a bad spot in a > fairly awkward place. > The very first block of an ext4 partition was unreadable, and caused problems > in booting, as well as anything else that wanted to scan partitions. >

Re: How to recover a damaged partition

2015-01-21 Thread Gary Dale
On 21/01/15 09:53 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I'm working with new 4TB drives, and one of them just had a bad spot in a fairly awkward place. The very first block of an ext4 partition was unreadable, and caused problems in booting, as well as anything else that wanted to scan partitions. I over

Re: How to recover a damaged partition

2015-01-21 Thread Joseph Loo
On 01/21/2015 06:53 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I'm working with new 4TB drives, and one of them just had a bad spot in a fairly awkward place. The very first block of an ext4 partition was unreadable, and caused problems in booting, as well as anything else that wanted to scan partitions. I overw

How to recover a damaged partition

2015-01-21 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I'm working with new 4TB drives, and one of them just had a bad spot in a fairly awkward place. The very first block of an ext4 partition was unreadable, and caused problems in booting, as well as anything else that wanted to scan partitions. I overwrote the first 4K with zeroes, deleted the parti

Butt in - Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.

2015-01-21 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 14:29:42 -0800 Don Armstrong sent: > You can do it *exactly* the way I just posted pictures. I shouldn't butt in but, hey you clever man how did you take those shots.? Oh no. with a camera? Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 **

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 21:29:45 Bob Proulx wrote: > What problem are you seeing?  Details? PEBCAK, but he won't accept it, so he won't try to understand what to do. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact list

Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.

2015-01-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 20:05:23 Gene Heskett wrote: > Yes, it can install, Yes, it can. > but it cripples the disk its installed on if its a > 4k/sector disk. No it doesn't. > I fail to see what is so difficult to understand here. It is you who refuses to understand. Lisi -- To UNS

Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.

2015-01-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: > Even in the expert AND manual modes, and I am getting tired of > repeating this, you cannot modify the "do not Use" other than the > color of the text. First, you partition the drive using fdisk or whatever you want: http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/partition

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gary Dale
On 21/01/15 04:29 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Bob Proulx did opine You seem to believe that the Wheezy debian-installer does not handle the new Advanced Format 4k sectors. However I use it all of the time with 4k sectors and it works fine. There is no known problem using the Whe

Re: Wheezy is installed

2015-01-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Gary Dale wrote: > Please note that a graphical desktop is NOT installed by default. You have > to select it in the task selector. The Wheezy default desktop is GNOME. Gene is asking about KDE. If he didn't select the alternative desktop environment then KDE won't have been installed but will ha

Re: network newbie seeks assistance debugging iptables for VPN tunnel

2015-01-21 Thread Tom Roche
Tom Roche Wed, 21 Jan 2015 12:50:04 -0500 [1] >> I need to tunnel one SSL VPN (F5, running on one debian host) through >> another (OpenVPN, running on another debian host), but lose networking >> (e.g., `ping`) after the F5 VPN connects. I'm not sure whether this >> is due to my firewall/iptables

Re: Wheezy is installed - suggestions for how to partition. potentially

2015-01-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 07:46:11PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 20 January 2015 18:44:20 Andrew M.A. Cater did opine > And Gene did reply: > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 06:17:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Greetings; > > > > > > Along with around 1300 other pkgs because I like kde

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Gene Heskett wrote: > Bob Proulx did opine > > You seem to believe that the Wheezy debian-installer does not handle > > the new Advanced Format 4k sectors. However I use it all of the time > > with 4k sectors and it works fine. There is no known problem using > > the Wheezy debian-installer to in

Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.

2015-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 13:22:56 Don Armstrong did opine And Gene did reply: > On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: > > It self-destructed when I tried to fix the miss-aligned partitions > > the you cannot bypass it partitioner created out of whole cloth. > > Changing the partition layout

Re: Please stop systemd-fsck on _every_ boot!

2015-01-21 Thread David Wright
> Just a reminder. fsck is responsible for applying the journal to > journaled filesystems. So you really do want it to run everytime. I'm confused by this. Mount claims that it replays journals by giving you the hazardous option of preventing it: "norecovery/noload Don't load the journal

Re: Wheezy is installed

2015-01-21 Thread Gary Dale
On 20/01/15 07:46 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 18:44:20 Andrew M.A. Cater did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 06:17:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; Along with around 1300 other pkgs because I like kde yadda yadda. First question: Does it tak

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 13:18:25 Bob Proulx did opine And Gene did reply: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Andrew M.A. Cater did opine > > > > > The wheezy installer _ought_ to work with a 4K disk - fdisk will > > > normally work - but ... > > > > It will work, poorly, giving ass-aligned disk that

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gary Dale
On 20/01/15 06:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 13:03:50 Gary Dale did opine And Gene did reply: On 20/01/15 09:37 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I just started to do a wheezy 2.8 install on a disk with 4k sectors, this after researching and finding a partitioner utili

Re: Wheezy is installed

2015-01-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: > It self-destructed when I tried to fix the miss-aligned partitions the > you cannot bypass it partitioner created out of whole cloth. Changing the partition layout underneath the installer is never going to work, unless you also move and resize the partit

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Gene Heskett wrote: > Andrew M.A. Cater did opine > > The wheezy installer _ought_ to work with a 4K disk - fdisk will > > normally work - but ... > > It will work, poorly, giving ass-aligned disk that will be slow, or > slower. You seem to believe that the Wheezy debian-installer does not handl

Re: Wheezy is installed

2015-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 06:53:33 Darac Marjal did opine And Gene did reply: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 06:17:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings; > > > > Along with around 1300 other pkgs because I like kde yadda yadda. > > > > First question: Does it take a reboot before you can s

Re: network newbie seeks assistance debugging iptables for VPN tunnel

2015-01-21 Thread Matt Ventura
On 1/21/2015 9:50 AM, Tom Roche wrote: [note: following contains ASCII art in the middle, and footnoted links at the end] summary: I need to tunnel one SSL VPN (F5, running on one debian host) through another (OpenVPN, running on another debian host), but lose networking (e.g., `ping`) after

network newbie seeks assistance debugging iptables for VPN tunnel

2015-01-21 Thread Tom Roche
[note: following contains ASCII art in the middle, and footnoted links at the end] summary: I need to tunnel one SSL VPN (F5, running on one debian host) through another (OpenVPN, running on another debian host), but lose networking (e.g., `ping`) after the F5 VPN connects. I'm not sure whethe

Re: Wheezy is installed

2015-01-21 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 06:17:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings; > > Along with around 1300 other pkgs because I like kde yadda yadda. > > First question: Does it take a reboot before you can select kdm at login? > I did 2 or 3 logouts & back in without being presented with a choice.