Re: logrotate problem

2014-10-08 Thread Catalin Soare
On Oct 6, 2014 11:00 PM, "Michael Grant" wrote: > > I think I've tracked this down to rsyslogd being updated a few days ago and it not restarting. > > So I tried to restart it by hand with /etc/init.d/rsyslogd restart but it failed to stop. So trying to understand why it didn't stop, I tried runn

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 06:52:20PM +0100, Brian wrote: > "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the > people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are > doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X Ironic signature there... Isn't that how the /filtered/ posts are suppose

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 06:52:20PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 07 Oct 2014 at 17:18:56 +, Curt wrote: > > > On 2014-10-07, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > Self-censorship is one way of characterizing it. Another > > > characterization would be sticking to the facts. > > > > > > A third charac

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 07:41:06PM +0100, Joe wrote: > Even fetchmail connects to the MTA on its own host by SMTP. How have you got yours configured? fetchmail connects using the pop3 protocol in my configuration. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who ar

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-10-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 09 Oct 2014, lee wrote: > Tony van der Hoff writes: > > > GMT/BST; I just want cron to trigger tasks at a fixed time each day, > > regardless of localtime. > > man cron: > >It is possible to use different time zones for crontables. See >crontab(5) for more information.

Re: question about systemd

2014-10-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:58:13 -0400 James Ensor wrote: > Hi, > > I don't have a strong opinion about systemd one way or the other, but > even after all of the debate and discussion that has been going on, > it was still not clear to me if systemd is something that is required > to be run, or if it

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/8/2014 8:42 PM, lee wrote: > Jerry Stuckle writes: > >> On 10/6/2014 7:30 PM, lee wrote: >>> Jerry Stuckle writes: >>> For instance, MUAs typically connect on port 587 (at least that is the recommendation), while MTAs always use port 25. Additionally, MUAs should always be v

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/8/2014 8:17 PM, lee wrote: > Jerry Stuckle writes: > >> On 10/6/2014 7:10 PM, lee wrote: >>> Jerry Stuckle writes: >>> >dc_relay_nets > A list of machines for which we serve as smarthost. > > That looks ideal, doesn't it? > > Right. But he's

Re: obnam speed

2014-10-08 Thread Joey Hess
Philippe Clérié wrote: > I'm curious to know how fast obnam is for other users. > > My home network is mostly Gigabit Ethernet. Measuring with iperf, the best > speed I get is around 600Mbps, maybe 700Mbps depending on the computers > involved. > > With obnam, speeds are anywhere below 50Mbps. Ev

Re: Newbie friendly security and firewall docs (cookbook?)

2014-10-08 Thread lee
Richard Owlett writes: > I'm aware of "Securing Debian Manual". I'm looking for more an > introductory document. I'm not sure what you're looking for. It's a good idea to have at least a good basic understanding about how a firewall works before you set one up. From there, you could look at to

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-10-08 Thread lee
Tony van der Hoff writes: > GMT/BST; I just want cron to trigger tasks at a fixed time each day, > regardless of localtime. man cron: It is possible to use different time zones for crontables. See crontab(5) for more information. man 5 crontab: The CRON_TZ variable spec

implicit linkage (was: Re: Effectively criticizing decisions you disagree with in Debian)

2014-10-08 Thread lee
Joel Rees writes: >> 2014/09/25 9:15 "lee" : >> >>> Joel Rees writes: >> >> >> Hmm. So linkage is a result of complexity, > > What is complexity? > > Complexity is not a simple topic. :-\ > >> and implicity is a result of >> undeclaredness (or unawareness of declaredness). > > Sort of, but not

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread lee
Jerry Stuckle writes: > On 10/6/2014 7:10 PM, lee wrote: >> Jerry Stuckle writes: >> dc_relay_nets A list of machines for which we serve as smarthost. That looks ideal, doesn't it? >>> >>> Right. But he's not running multiple MTAs - he only has the on

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread lee
Jerry Stuckle writes: > On 10/6/2014 7:30 PM, lee wrote: >> Jerry Stuckle writes: >> >>> For instance, MUAs typically connect on port 587 (at least that is the >>> recommendation), while MTAs always use port 25. Additionally, MUAs >>> should always be validated with signon/password, to prevent

Re: Fvwm.... this actually didn't work........

2014-10-08 Thread lee
Charlie writes: > Further to my first post. > > I noticed I had an extra line under my ~/.fvwm/menudefs.hook: > > # > # This is the Debian menu call as suggested by Vincent W Chen. > # Debian Menu > #-

Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it

2014-10-08 Thread lee
"Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)" writes: > On 06/09/14 06:04, lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> how would I figure out what the last commit to a remote repo was without >> first fetching or pulling the remote repo? > > $ git ls-remote origin > > ... will show you the list of references (tags, branches/heads) that > ex

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-10-08 Thread lee
Linux-Fan writes: > On 10/07/2014 11:41 PM, lee wrote: > > Transferring data via network is also my favorite means of > "transportation". On the other hand, my connection has an upload speed > of about 70 KiB/sec and is therefore not suited for transferring medium > amounts of data like 150 MiB (

Re: Can't unlock the screensaver

2014-10-08 Thread lee
softwatt writes: > Perhaps we should suggest an xscreensaver update, where the capslock > status and the current language are shown next to the password input. > This should be trivial to implement. +NumLock, and correct handling of NumLock A password starting with a tilde can yield strange res

Re: Can't unlock the screensaver

2014-10-08 Thread lee
Steve Litt writes: > with lxlock, and after switching to i3lock with the -i option, I found > it a great locker for *any* wm/de. Just be careful with outdated versions of i3lock when NumLock comes into play. -- Hallowed are the Debians! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 9/10/2014 7:01 AM, Brian wrote: >> No problem, just don't killfile incoming messages. Problem >> solved. >> >> But if you *do*, then say you did it and say why. Otherwise, >> don't killfile incoming message. > > From less than 7 days ago: > > h

question about systemd

2014-10-08 Thread James Ensor
Hi, I don't have a strong opinion about systemd one way or the other, but even after all of the debate and discussion that has been going on, it was still not clear to me if systemd is something that is required to be run, or if it's just a default init system that can be changed. So I went ahead

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Definitely moderated posts: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/10/msg00602.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/10/msg00603.html :( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.o

Re: the Rabbit of Caerbannog

2014-10-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 9/10/2014 10:40 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Hi, > >$ sed 's/s.st.md/the Rabbit of Caerbannog/' Bingo!!! Definitely moderated posts! :( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.or

Re: the Rabbit of Caerbannog

2014-10-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, $ sed 's/s.st.md/the Rabbit of Caerbannog/' I'm getting really pissed off, why aren't my messages getting through? I'm entitled to an opinion just like everybody else. Refer this thread too: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/10/msg00424.html [titled "Moderated Posts?" ...

Re: Newbie friendly security and firewall docs (cookbook?)

2014-10-08 Thread koanhead
On 10/08/2014 07:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > koanhead wrote: >> On 10/06/2014 04:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> I'm a relatively new convert from Windows to Debian... >>> I'm looking for a reference document that wouldn't scare my friend off >>> Debian and also give me the required information

obnam speed

2014-10-08 Thread Philippe Clérié
I'm curious to know how fast obnam is for other users. My home network is mostly Gigabit Ethernet. Measuring with iperf, the best speed I get is around 600Mbps, maybe 700Mbps depending on the computers involved. With obnam, speeds are anywhere below 50Mbps. Even with no other traffic on the

Re: Newbie friendly security and firewall docs (cookbook?)

2014-10-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 06:18:09 +1000 Stuart Longland wrote: > The hard bit about things like firewalling, is that there is really a > minimum technical understanding necessary to do it properly. You've got that right. Years ago, I despaired of ever understanding iptables, and just put a pf firewa

Re: Lots of LSB related mesages at boot

2014-10-08 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 18:41:00 +0200 Sven Joachim sent: > > I believe, the problem occurs because of my encrypted filesystem > > No, it seems to be because of the separate /usr filesystem. > Basically, systemd expects /usr to be mounted by the initramfs which > is implemented by initramfs-tools i

Re: Lots of LSB related mesages at boot

2014-10-08 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 18:13:09 +0200 Hans sent: > Am Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2014, 17:49:47 schrieb Sven Joachim: > Hi Sven, > > > journalctl -u systemd-remount-fs.service > > Please look here: > > protheus2:~# journalctl -u systemd-remount-fs.service > -- Logs begin at Mi 2014-10-08 16:57:15 CEST,

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread Brian
On Wed 08 Oct 2014 at 14:49:36 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 10/8/2014 1:41 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 08 Oct 2014 at 13:00:46 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > > >> On 10/8/2014 7:55 AM, Brian wrote: > >>> > >>> By definition an MTA will transport mail. It will do this for whatever > >>> talks

Re: Newbie friendly security and firewall docs (cookbook?)

2014-10-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 06 Oct 2014, Richard Owlett wrote: > Yes. I've a reference somewhere on how to do that. What I was looking > for was a document that covers it for someone who likely only has a > vague idea of what a packet is. For a basic firewall configuration, the default ferm configuration is almost ce

Re: Newbie friendly security and firewall docs (cookbook?)

2014-10-08 Thread Stuart Longland
On 09/10/14 00:12, Richard Owlett wrote: > koanhead wrote: >> On 10/06/2014 04:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> I'm a relatively new convert from Windows to Debian... >>> I'm looking for a reference document that wouldn't scare my friend off >>> Debian and also give me the required information to:

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 15:36:14 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: Hello Ric, >Someone please censor this irrelevant thread. It's already old, worn >out You're using gmail. That has some pretty powerful filtering capabilities. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)ra

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Brian
On Wed 08 Oct 2014 at 15:37:18 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 15:24:11 -0400 > Ric Moore wrote: > > > On 10/06/2014 05:42 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > Personally, I think the right way to moderate a list is: > > > > > > A) Tell everyone it's a moderated list > > > B) Send the

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Litt wrote: > 25: Paul Tagliamonte moves the bug somewhere else, tells Thorsten > Glaser not to re-add it to the current bug discussion. If any of > you wonder why other inits aren't supported, you now see that Paul > Tagliamonte had the admin priveleges to move bugs, and was feel

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-10-08 Thread Linux-Fan
On 10/07/2014 11:41 PM, lee wrote: > Linux-Fan writes: >> On 09/30/2014 01:40 AM, lee wrote: [...] >>> Last time I looked into buying an USB stick, I found out that I'd be >>> better off buying an USB disk because the sticks were so expensive and >>> their capacity relatively low, so I bought an

I'm sorry

2014-10-08 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, Five minutes ago I posted a mean, personal attack. Nobody needs that, especially these days. So I just procmailed that particular person to /dev/null, so I won't see his messages and respond to him. I apologize to the list and the person I personally attacked. SteveT Steve Litt

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 08 oct 14, 16:01:37, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > The tech-ctte exploration was extremely thorough, entirely transparent and I > cannot think of any example of a more transparent decision making process in > any other Linux community. Not only that, but the entire decision could be > overri

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 08 oct 14, 09:43:41, Steve Litt wrote: > > What I'd meant was go to the top of the file and read the first ten > posts. Seeing that the messages aren't consecutively numbered, let me > summarize: In my opinion your summary shows deep misunderstandings of how the Debian Project works. If y

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 15:36:14 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: > Someone please censor this irrelevant thread. It's already old, worn > out and the same people keep repeating the same thing, over and over > and over, like the rest of us are too stupid to get it the first time. > Plus, you're wasting my limi

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 15:24:11 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: > On 10/06/2014 05:42 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Personally, I think the right way to moderate a list is: > > > > A) Tell everyone it's a moderated list > > B) Send the poster a short reason why his post has been moderated. > > Sure! GREAT ID

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Ric Moore
Someone please censor this irrelevant thread. It's already old, worn out and the same people keep repeating the same thing, over and over and over, like the rest of us are too stupid to get it the first time. Plus, you're wasting my limited bandwidth. :/ Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) use

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Ric Moore
On 10/06/2014 05:42 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Personally, I think the right way to moderate a list is: A) Tell everyone it's a moderated list B) Send the poster a short reason why his post has been moderated. Sure! GREAT IDEA!! Now, who wants to spend their free time wringing their hands and ema

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/8/2014 1:41 PM, Brian wrote: > On Wed 08 Oct 2014 at 13:00:46 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> On 10/8/2014 7:55 AM, Brian wrote: >>> >>> By definition an MTA will transport mail. It will do this for whatever >>> talks nicely to it (telnet or netcat would do). Exim has no idea whether >>> it

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/8/2014 1:25 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > >> On 8 Oct 2014, at 18:03, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> >> Do you also allow your users to log into your systems via ssh or telnet >> with no root password? > > Of course not. That's not even remotely the same thing. Don't be ludicrous. > >> >>

Re: [SOLVED!] mounting local hd from live usb, was 'root account inaccessible'

2014-10-08 Thread John Aten
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 After poring over the output of dmesg with guidance from Peter Zoeller, I got the idea that maybe the wheezy live system doesn't recognize or automatically mount the local drives by default. I downloaded Knoppix, and it worked wonderfully. It reco

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread Brian
On Wed 08 Oct 2014 at 13:00:46 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 10/8/2014 7:55 AM, Brian wrote: > > > > By definition an MTA will transport mail. It will do this for whatever > > talks nicely to it (telnet or netcat would do). Exim has no idea whether > > it is communicating with an MUA or an MTA

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> On 8 Oct 2014, at 18:03, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > Do you also allow your users to log into your systems via ssh or telnet > with no root password? Of course not. That's not even remotely the same thing. Don't be ludicrous. > > You claim the likelyhood is low - but are you sure about that?

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/8/2014 8:32 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 10:40:28PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> And how can you be positive your network is secure? For instance, you >> don't have a configuration error, a bug in a router, an access point >> with weak encryption... the list of po

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/8/2014 7:55 AM, Brian wrote: > On Tue 07 Oct 2014 at 22:25:01 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> On 10/6/2014 7:10 PM, lee wrote: >>> Jerry Stuckle writes: >>> >dc_relay_nets > A list of machines for which we serve as smarthost. > > That looks ideal, doesn't it?

Re: Lots of LSB related mesages at boot

2014-10-08 Thread Hans
> > > > I believe, the problem occurs because of my encrypted filesystem > > No, it seems to be because of the separate /usr filesystem. Basically, > systemd expects /usr to be mounted by the initramfs which is implemented > by initramfs-tools in unstable, but not in testing. > Just to make it

Re: Lots of LSB related mesages at boot

2014-10-08 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-10-08 18:13 +0200, Hans wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2014, 17:49:47 schrieb Sven Joachim: > Hi Sven, > >> journalctl -u systemd-remount-fs.service > > Please look here: > > protheus2:~# journalctl -u systemd-remount-fs.service > -- Logs begin at Mi 2014-10-08 16:57:15 CEST, end at Mi 2

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 08 October 2014 16:01:37 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > they suck the life > and enthusiasm out of us almost as much as the trolls do. Is there nothing the rest of us can do to put them back? There are a LOT of us not complaining and at least some of us very grateful. Lisi -- To UNSU

Re: MATE Desktop 1.8 from wheezy-backports

2014-10-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 08 October 2014 17:07:37 Giorgos Savvas wrote: > On 08/10/2014 15:14, Pol Hallen wrote: > >> What is the recommended way for switching to wheezy-backports and MATE > >> 1.8? This is what I'm thinking: > > > > using: > > > > # wheezy stable > > deb http://ip/debian/ stable main contrib

Re: Lots of LSB related mesages at boot

2014-10-08 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2014, 17:49:47 schrieb Sven Joachim: Hi Sven, > journalctl -u systemd-remount-fs.service Please look here: protheus2:~# journalctl -u systemd-remount-fs.service -- Logs begin at Mi 2014-10-08 16:57:15 CEST, end at Mi 2014-10-08 18:07:33 CEST. -- Okt 08 16:57:18 protheus2

Re: MATE Desktop 1.8 from wheezy-backports

2014-10-08 Thread Giorgos Savvas
On 08/10/2014 15:14, Pol Hallen wrote: What is the recommended way for switching to wheezy-backports and MATE 1.8? This is what I'm thinking: using: # wheezy stable deb http://ip/debian/ stable main contrib non-free deb http://ip/debian-security stable/updates main contrib non-free apt-get u

Re: mounting local hd from live usb, was 'root account inaccessible'

2014-10-08 Thread Joel Rees
Does jessie still provide /dev/disk/by-id , etc.? as in ls -la /dev/disk/by-id ls -la /dev/disk/by-label etc.? Joel Rees Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens. All is a stream of text flowing from the past into the future.

Re: Lots of LSB related mesages at boot

2014-10-08 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-10-08 17:14 +0200, Hans wrote: > Tha last error I could associate to the drive, but I am stuck, how to fix > this. > > I get: > > protheus2:~# systemctl --failed list-units > UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUBDESCRIPTION > ● systemd-remount-fs.service loaded failed failed

Re: mounting local hd from live usb, was 'root account inaccessible'

2014-10-08 Thread John Aten
On Oct 7, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > This is not good, your live system doesn't detect your harddisk. How old > is this live system? I just downloaded it when this problem arose, like a week ago. debian-live-7.6.0-i386-rescue.iso.torrent from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian

Re: pcmanfm won't mount USB stick on Jessie

2014-10-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 10:16:58 -0400 (EDT) Rob Owens wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Steve Litt" > > On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:57:07 -0400 (EDT) > > Rob Owens wrote: > > Fortunately, I installed something that automounts my thumb drives > > to /media/usb0, /media/usb1, etc, so I don'

Epiphany

2014-10-08 Thread Ethan Rosenberg
Dear List - I receive the following message when trying to run Epiphany - "No running instance of xfce4-panel was found". However - root@meow:/home/ethan/Desktop# /usr/bin/xfce4-panel (xfce4-panel:9580): xfce4-panel-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the D-BUS session bus: Did not receive a r

Re: Lots of LSB related mesages at boot

2014-10-08 Thread Hans
Hi Jonathan, > Look; don't guess. You've discovered with systemctl list-units > --failed which units have failed. Now use systemctl status on each of > those units, which will give you when it was started, what was > started, how it stopped (with exit code and signal status), and (if > you do th

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Wed, 08 Oct 2014 09:56:47 -0400 The Wanderer napísal: > I don't think that's a fair paraphrase. I think he was speaking in > favor of a TC vote, in recognition of the fact that the conflicting / > competing views on init systems were not going to be resolved without > a decision by som

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hi, I was there at the time that the issue was referred to the tech-ctte, and I read all of the posts to that bug at the time, as well as all the parallel discussions taking place on debian-devel. I can assure you that your interpretation of the first 10 comments is entirely wrong. Tg and paultag

systemctl disable/mask

2014-10-08 Thread Tom H
On 28 Sep 2014 04:35:03 +0200, lee wrote: > > Anyway, it gives me to think that such a misunderstanding has come > up to begin with and that it hasn't been fixed long ago. Someone who > doesn't understand what "disabled" means is programming an init > system: What other misunderstandings might hav

Re: pcmanfm won't mount USB stick on Jessie

2014-10-08 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "Steve Litt" > On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:57:07 -0400 (EDT) > Rob Owens wrote: > > > I've filed a bug, but haven't gotten any answers yet. > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=760397 > > > > Is anybody else having trouble mounting a USB stick usi

Re: Newbie friendly security and firewall docs (cookbook?)

2014-10-08 Thread Richard Owlett
koanhead wrote: On 10/06/2014 04:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm a relatively new convert from Windows to Debian... I'm looking for a reference document that wouldn't scare my friend off Debian and also give me the required information to: 1. close the maximum number of ports. I see hi

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread The Wanderer
On 10/08/2014 at 09:43 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 21:48:10 +0900 Joel Rees > wrote: >> (I'm wondering whether that's the first ten, or the first ten >> currently visible.) > > What I'd meant was go to the top of the file and read the first ten > posts. Seeing that the messages a

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 21:48:10 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Andrei POPESCU > wrote: > > On Mi, 08 oct 14, 11:41:05, Joel Rees wrote: > >> 2014/10/08 6:07 "Andrei POPESCU" : > >> > > >> > On Ma, 07 oct 14, 12:00:57, Steve Litt wrote: > >> > > > >> > >https://bugs.debian.o

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread The Wanderer
On 10/08/2014 at 09:18 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 12:16:25 +0300 Andrei POPESCU > wrote: > >> I was specifically asking about a reference for "Thorsten Glaser >> was ordered not to bring up alternate inits...". > > I'll restate the URL I gave in the message to which you responde

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 12:16:25 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > I was specifically asking about a reference for "Thorsten Glaser was > ordered not to bring up alternate inits...". > > Kind regards, > Andrei I'll restate the URL I gave in the message to which you responded: https://bugs.debian.org/

Re: Prolem with external monitor

2014-10-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 15:23:55 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > How do I get the external monitor to be detected, and, work, with the > Debian7/LXDE system? > > Thank you in anticipation. > I always start by using lxrandr. Also be aware that the external monitor state can be changed with various laptop

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 10:40:28PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> And how can you be positive your network is secure? For instance, you >> don't have a configuration error, a bug in a router, an access point >> with weak encryption... the

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 08 oct 14, 11:41:05, Joel Rees wrote: >> 2014/10/08 6:07 "Andrei POPESCU" : >> > >> > On Ma, 07 oct 14, 12:00:57, Steve Litt wrote: >> > > >> > >https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708 >> > > >> > > Read ^H^H^H^H skim

Re: Jessie: suddenly unable to make any changes with apt-get or aptitude:

2014-10-08 Thread Sentient Meat Net
Hi Michael. You got that right, exactly. I had followed some instructions from a blog post to install Oracle database on the system, but it was long, incomplete instructions, requiring a fair amount of mucking around in the system for me to try to get it right. I didn't quite get it running yet.

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 10:40:28PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > And how can you be positive your network is secure? For instance, you > don't have a configuration error, a bug in a router, an access point > with weak encryption... the list of potential holes is almost endless. The likelyhood of

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread Brian
On Tue 07 Oct 2014 at 22:25:01 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 10/6/2014 7:10 PM, lee wrote: > > Jerry Stuckle writes: > > > >>>dc_relay_nets > >>> A list of machines for which we serve as smarthost. > >>> > >>> That looks ideal, doesn't it? > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Right. But he's

MATE Desktop 1.8 from wheezy-backports

2014-10-08 Thread Giorgos Savvas
Hi all, I have a Debian Wheezy installation with MATE Desktop 1.6 that was installed via MATE Desktop's own repository. Here's the corresponding line in sources.list: deb http://repo.mate-desktop.org/debian wheezy main A couple of weeks ago, this repository was removed[1] and it was recomme

Re: lvm: creating a snapshot

2014-10-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/7/2014 7:09 PM, John Holland wrote: > The license of ZFS makes it impossible to be part of > the kernel per se. I have read multiple threads that explain why this is not true. don't understand them, wish I did... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a s

Re: Prolem with external monitor

2014-10-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 08 oct 14, 15:23:55, Bret Busby wrote: > > Both scenario's involve the use od a VGA cable and connection to the > VGA socket on each of the respective laptops. That it is using the > supplied VGA cable, and not aDVI or HDMI cable, is not a problem for > me, as I find the resolution to be go

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 08 oct 14, 11:41:05, Joel Rees wrote: > 2014/10/08 6:07 "Andrei POPESCU" : > > > > On Ma, 07 oct 14, 12:00:57, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > >https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708 > > > > > > Read ^H^H^H^H skim the thread. Notice how, in the first 10 posts, after > > > insis

Re: Prolem with external monitor

2014-10-08 Thread Joe
On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 15:23:55 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > I have a 23" monitor, that I want to use with two of my laptop > computers (not at the same time). > > I have a 15" laptop, with an i3 CPU, running Debian 6 LTS and GNOME2. > > With the external monitor connected and switched on,

Re: Prolem with external monitor

2014-10-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 08/10/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 08/10/2014, Martin Read wrote: >> On 08/10/14 08:23, Bret Busby wrote: >>> I have a 23" monitor, that I want to use with two of my laptop >>> computers (not at the same time). >>> >>> I have a 15" laptop, with an i3 CPU, running Debian 6 LTS and GNOME2. >> [s

Re: Prolem with external monitor

2014-10-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 08/10/2014, Martin Read wrote: > On 08/10/14 08:23, Bret Busby wrote: >> I have a 23" monitor, that I want to use with two of my laptop >> computers (not at the same time). >> >> I have a 15" laptop, with an i3 CPU, running Debian 6 LTS and GNOME2. > [snip] >> The other laptop has a 17" display

Re: Prolem with external monitor

2014-10-08 Thread Martin Read
On 08/10/14 08:23, Bret Busby wrote: I have a 23" monitor, that I want to use with two of my laptop computers (not at the same time). I have a 15" laptop, with an i3 CPU, running Debian 6 LTS and GNOME2. [snip] The other laptop has a 17" display and an i7CPU, and is running Debian 7.x and LXDE

Re: Removing unwanted language files from texlive.

2014-10-08 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
My question "How did you install" was more aiming at the tool/application or command you were using to install texlive. Anyhow, I'd suggest to replace the texlive-full package by texlive and install any additional TeX-package manually afterwards. For package management I'm using aptitude. Therefore

Prolem with external monitor

2014-10-08 Thread Bret Busby
Hello. I have a 23" monitor, that I want to use with two of my laptop computers (not at the same time). I have a 15" laptop, with an i3 CPU, running Debian 6 LTS and GNOME2. With the external monitor connected and switched on, upon bootup, the external monitor is automatically operational, and,