Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

On 27/09/14 12:31, green wrote: > green wrote at 2014-09-26 21:04 -0500: >> Ric Moore wrote at 2014-09-26 18:08 -0500: >>> On 09/26/2014 05:08 PM, green wrote: So, all other things being equal, binary logs are more secure than plain text logs. Is that actually what you are saying? >>> >>

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

green wrote at 2014-09-26 21:04 -0500: > Ric Moore wrote at 2014-09-26 18:08 -0500: > > On 09/26/2014 05:08 PM, green wrote: > > >So, all other things being equal, binary logs are more secure than > > >plain text logs. Is that actually what you are saying? > > > > Yes. The benefit of using a bina

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Ric Moore wrote at 2014-09-26 18:08 -0500: > On 09/26/2014 05:08 PM, green wrote: > >Ric Moore wrote at 2014-09-26 14:18 -0500: > >>Change is certainly needed when any pimple face kid can edit and hide his > >>doings from a text log with nano. I think the change is necessary to harden > >>up our sy

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Ric Moore wrote: > On 09/26/2014 05:08 PM, green wrote: >> >> Ric Moore wrote at 2014-09-26 14:18 -0500: >>> >>> Change is certainly needed when any pimple face kid can edit and hide his >>> doings from a text log with nano. I think the change is necessary to >>> h

Re: PuTTY tips for Debian users

On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:53:44 -0400 (EDT), Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > I've enjoyed reading your well-written and thoroughly researched posts. Have > you considered putting them somewhere else, e.g. the Debian wiki? I'm not sure that the Debian wiki is the right place for this information. Althoug

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

On 27/09/14 09:08, Ric Moore wrote: > On 09/26/2014 05:08 PM, green wrote: >> Ric Moore wrote at 2014-09-26 14:18 -0500: >>> Change is certainly needed when any pimple face kid can edit and hide >>> his >>> doings from a text log with nano. I think the change is necessary to -8<

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:05:25 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Miles Fidelman writes: > > Again, in the real world of operations - not all code is installed > > from packages. There's an awful lot of ./configure; ./make install > > That has nothing to do with Debian. How can your difficulties > insta

Re: 2 fork or ~2 fork

On 09/26/2014 07:51 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 9/26/2014 6:21 PM, John Hasler wrote: Ric Moore writes: Plunk down your money to sue a "club" that you volunteered to join. He isn't a member of the club: he is not a Debian Developer. He's some guy who accepted a gift from the club and is now

Re: 2 fork or ~2 fork

On 9/26/2014 8:19 PM, John Hasler wrote: > Jerry Stuckle writes: >> Actually, he might have a case here - at least in the United States. >> The Debian contract lays out some promises; as a user, if he could >> prove those promises were abridged, he could get a judgement against >> Debian and/or the

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Ric Moore wrote: > Change is certainly needed when any pimple face kid can edit and hide his > doings from a text log with nano. I think the change is necessary to harden > up our systems. Otherwise, Microsoft will become the only secure server OS, > as they don't mind hiding things at all. > > Ye

Re: 2 fork or ~2 fork

On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:19:46 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Jerry Stuckle writes: > > Actually, he might have a case here - at least in the United States. > > The Debian contract lays out some promises; as a user, if he could > > prove those promises were abridged, he could get a judgement against >

Re: How/Where to file a feature request

On Fri, 26 Sep 2014, Philippe Clérié wrote: > I would like to file a bug/feature request against Debian Installation > to add a choice of keyboard variants to the installation. It should > not be that hard. It's been in Ubuntu forever. There already is a choice which is asked for, but I can't reme

Re: How/Where to file a feature request

Philippe Clérié writes: > I have been using Debian for years and one of the most annoying thing about > it is that at installation I can't select the US International keymap. I > have a couple of "é" in my name and I am, sadly, sensitive about them. > I would like to file a bug/feature request aga

How/Where to file a feature request

Hello, I have been using Debian for years and one of the most annoying thing about it is that at installation I can't select the US International keymap. I have a couple of "é" in my name and I am, sadly, sensitive about them. I would like to file a bug/feature request against Debian Install

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Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Miles Fidelman writes: > Again, in the real world of operations - not all code is installed > from packages. There's an awful lot of ./configure; ./make install That has nothing to do with Debian. How can your difficulties installing some tarball be construed as Debian imposing anything on upstr

Re: 2 fork or ~2 fork

Jerry Stuckle writes: > Actually, he might have a case here - at least in the United States. > The Debian contract lays out some promises; as a user, if he could > prove those promises were abridged, he could get a judgement against > Debian and/or the individual developers. Not a contract. No co

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

On 9/26/2014 5:08 PM, green wrote: > Ric Moore wrote at 2014-09-26 14:18 -0500: >> Change is certainly needed when any pimple face kid can edit and hide his >> doings from a text log with nano. I think the change is necessary to harden >> up our systems. Otherwise, Microsoft will become the only se

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Re: 2 fork or ~2 fork

On 9/26/2014 6:21 PM, John Hasler wrote: > Ric Moore writes: >> Plunk down your money to sue a "club" that you volunteered to join. > > He isn't a member of the club: he is not a Debian Developer. He's some > guy who accepted a gift from the club and is now accusing them of fraud > and threatenin

Re: how to force chronyd to be online after booting

On 09/26/2014 06:31 PM, lee wrote: Hi, is there an easy way to force chronyd to get into/remain in its online mode rather than going into offline mode? So far, the documentation I found says it'll go and remain offline when it can't reach a server. When that happens, it can only be put into on

Re: Trying to upgrade bash on squeeze, running into errors

On Fri, 26 Sep 2014, Russell Jones wrote: > I've seen several posts about this Bash upgrade issue, but no real > answers on how to get past it. Any assistance would be appreciated, > thank you! This looks like the diversions for /bin/sh got removed or otherwise improperly modified at some point in

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

On 09/26/2014 05:08 PM, green wrote: Ric Moore wrote at 2014-09-26 14:18 -0500: Change is certainly needed when any pimple face kid can edit and hide his doings from a text log with nano. I think the change is necessary to harden up our systems. Otherwise, Microsoft will become the only secure s

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

John Hasler wrote: Miles Fidelman writes: If I'm an upstream developer, and I want my stuff to run on Debian, I now have to include systemd init scripts (or the packagers do). Very few packages need init scripts. First of all, that's simply not true in the server world. Pretty much everythi

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Ric Moore wrote: > On 09/26/2014 06:06 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: >> >> Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 10:43:14 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: >>> >>> On Vi, 26 sep 14, 01:58:44, lee wrote: Again, I consider it to be totally futile to try to convince the mak

Trying to upgrade bash on squeeze, running into errors

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Re: DNS Resolution and Short Names with Dots

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 04:56:17PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Interstingly, libc6 switched back from eglibc to glibc sources just > before 2.19-4. The uptime on most of my systems is pretty high and it's possible that through various dist-upgrades I've gone between eglibc and glibc without re

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Miles Fidelman writes: > If I'm an upstream developer, and I want my stuff to run on Debian, I > now have to include systemd init scripts (or the packagers do). Very few packages need init scripts. When they are the Debian package maintainer writes them no matter what init system is in use. In a

Re: updating squeeze to wheezy

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Re: Let's have a vote!

PaulNM wrote: My own personal/technical thoughts have gone back and forth on systemd. However even when I firmly believed that is was the wrong way to go and would cause major issues down the line, it was still clear to me that many people were seriously going overboard. Could be. That s

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 03:44:21PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: > > PS - I don't really understand the version differences in apt-cache > policy and `bash --version'. apt-cache policy bash is the Debian package version bash --version is the actual upstream bash version. -- "If you're not care

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Hi, is there an easy way to force chronyd to get into/remain in its online mode rather than going into offline mode? So far, the documentation I found says it'll go and remain offline when it can't reach a server. When that happens, it can only be put into online mode via chronyc. The startup s

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Muhammad Yousuf Khan writes: > important to run on boot but what i want to know if fsck process is that > critical do i need to run fsck manually. so that i can save my server from I wouldn't worry about it. I've had a server running for a longer time than the uptime counter took to flow over (

Re: Let's have a vote!

Steve McIntyre wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Stephen Allen wrote: As has been stated many times here - A GR was tried but not enough seconds to carry on. Actually, no - I've been following this, and related threads, from the beginning - I have not seen anybody actually mention that a GR was tri

Re: 2 fork or ~2 fork

Ric Moore writes: > Plunk down your money to sue a "club" that you volunteered to join. He isn't a member of the club: he is not a Debian Developer. He's some guy who accepted a gift from the club and is now accusing them of fraud and threatening to sue because the next gift they offer him may no

Re: Let's have a vote!

Martin Read wrote: On 26/09/14 20:05, Miles Fidelman wrote: Actually, no - I've been following this, and related threads, from the beginning - I have not seen anybody actually mention that a GR was tried. Do you have a reference? https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/03/msg00114.html M

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

On Friday 26 September 2014 21:35:15 Harry Putnam wrote: > > When did you last run 'apt-get update' or similar? > > Bingo... last upd was last week.  But running it just now, followed by > full-upgrade got me a new bash version. Sorry. Very careless of me. :-( Blame the lateness of the hour. L

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

On Friday 26 September 2014 20:58:49 The Wanderer wrote: > > But here After finishing the post you quote above... I again > > ran `aptitude full-upgrade' (this is minutes ago) And there were no > > packages shown and nothing was done. > > When did you last run 'apt-get update' or similar? Erm.

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Re: systemd and server use (was: Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream)

also sprach Steve Litt [2014-09-26 18:26 +0200]: > If systemd was just a PID1 with the features you enumerate above, > I'd be dancing in the street, not looking for a way out. Beautiful. I had to: https://twitter.com/martinkrafft/status/515611660128903170 ;) -- .''`. martin f. krafft @marti

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Ric Moore wrote at 2014-09-26 14:18 -0500: > Change is certainly needed when any pimple face kid can edit and hide his > doings from a text log with nano. I think the change is necessary to harden > up our systems. Otherwise, Microsoft will become the only secure server OS, > as they don't mind hid

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

The Wanderer writes: >> But here After finishing the post you quote above... I again >> ran `aptitude full-upgrade' (this is minutes ago) And there were no >> packages shown and nothing was done. > > When did you last run 'apt-get update' or similar? Bingo... last upd was last week. But run

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 26 Sep 2014 14:53:01 -0400 Miles Fidelman napísal: > Martin Read wrote: > > On 26/09/14 16:09, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >> So let's see: > >> - the technical committee selects takes a vote that essentially > >> imposes systemd on all of the upstream developers and packagers > > > >

Re: Let's have a vote!

Miles Fidelman wrote: >Stephen Allen wrote: >> As has been stated many times here - A GR was tried but not enough >> seconds to carry on. > >Actually, no - I've been following this, and related threads, from the >beginning - I have not seen anybody actually mention that a GR was >tried. Do you h

Re: updating squeeze to wheezy

- Original Message - > From: "John Lindsay" > > Greeting > > I have been trying to update my Debian 6 (squeeze) to Debian 7 (wheezy). > I have been reading the following URLs and trying to make sense of them > with respect to upgrading. > > > Obviously it failed to upgrade to wheezy.

Re: Let's have a vote!

On 09/26/2014 03:05 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Stephen Allen wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 11:27:54AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: >> As has been stated many times here - A GR was tried but not enough >> seconds to carry on. > > Actually, no - I've been following this, and related threads, fr

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/26/2014 at 03:44 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > The Wanderer writes: > >> I have (trimmed for brevity): >> >> $ apt-cache policy bash bash: Installed: 4.3-9.1 >> >> $ bash --version GNU bash, version 4.3.25(1)-release >> (x86_64-pc-lin

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

Harry Putnam writes: > The Wanderer writes: > >> I have (trimmed for brevity): >> >> >> $ apt-cache policy bash >> bash: >> Installed: 4.3-9.1 >> >> $ bash --version >> GNU bash, version 4.3.25(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) >> Egad I neglected to post this below above

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

The Wanderer writes: > I have (trimmed for brevity): > > > $ apt-cache policy bash > bash: > Installed: 4.3-9.1 > > $ bash --version > GNU bash, version 4.3.25(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) > > > This is as of just over 3 hours ago as I type this. I'm not sure what that me

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

On 09/26/2014 06:06 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 10:43:14 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: On Vi, 26 sep 14, 01:58:44, lee wrote: Again, I consider it to be totally futile to try to convince the makers of systemd to fix the issues it brings about. They cannot be unaware

Re: Let's have a vote!

Stephen Allen wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 03:05:14PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Stephen Allen wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 11:27:54AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Martin Read wrote: On 25/09/14 15:42, Rob Owens wrote: I agree that "let's wait until we have a good init to move to" shou

Re: Let's have a vote!

On 26/09/14 20:05, Miles Fidelman wrote: Actually, no - I've been following this, and related threads, from the beginning - I have not seen anybody actually mention that a GR was tried. Do you have a reference? https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/03/msg00114.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 14:56:15 -0400 Harry Putnam wrote: > > Thanks for the input.. > > This looks fairly comprehensive: https://access.redhat.com/articles/1200223 My Sid bash is now 4.3-9.2 dated 22:58 yesterday and appears OK. No doubt this will be rushed into Jessie if it isn't there alre

Re: Let's have a vote!

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 03:05:14PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Stephen Allen wrote: > >On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 11:27:54AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >>Martin Read wrote: > >>>On 25/09/14 15:42, Rob Owens wrote: > I agree that "let's wait until we have a good init to move to" should > >>>

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

John Hasler wrote: Miles Fidelman writes: the technical committee selects takes a vote that essentially imposes systemd on all of the upstream developers and packagers Where the hell do you get that from? Isn't that effectively what happened? If I'm an upstream developer, and I want my stuf

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Martin Read wrote: On 26/09/14 16:09, Miles Fidelman wrote: So let's see: - the technical committee selects takes a vote that essentially imposes systemd on all of the upstream developers and packagers The technical committee has no authority (and limited soft power) with respect to what *ups

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/26/2014 at 02:56 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > The Wanderer writes: > >> On 09/26/2014 at 11:56 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> I did ssh to my user from the same shell I ran aptitude in to >>> make sure I had a new login... but I still see `Vulne

Re: Let's have a vote!

Stephen Allen wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 11:27:54AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Martin Read wrote: On 25/09/14 15:42, Rob Owens wrote: I agree that "let's wait until we have a good init to move to" should have been more seriously considered, but for some reason people were in a big hurry

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

Lisi Reisz writes: > So little mention?? There have been three threads. I said little... I did not say none. Compared to systemd cyclone of threads and posts, it is `little' and probably much more important at least right now. I guess I expected more than I see here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: 2 fork or ~2 fork

On 09/26/2014 02:14 AM, Gregory Smith wrote: Also, club or not, common law criminal fraud still applies. Well, prove it then. Plunk down your money to sue a "club" that you volunteered to join. Call 911! Email Eric Holder and tell him how you've been defrauded. I bet the FCC and Homeland Sec

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

Lisi Reisz writes: > So little mention?? There have been three threads. I said little... I did not say none. Compared to systemd cyclone of threads and posts, it is `little' and probably much more important at least right now. I guess I expected more than I see here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: systemd and server use

Hi. On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 13:02:16 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 09/26/2014 at 12:26 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:03:57 +0200 Martin Steigerwald > > wrote: > > >> Actually systemd has quite some features which benef

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

The Wanderer writes: > On 09/26/2014 at 11:56 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> After an `aptitude full-upgrade' this morning. I still get the >> `VULNERABLE' answer to `x='() { :;}; echo VULNERABLE' bash -c :' >> >> I hope that is the correct string... (extracted while googling on >> vulnerability)

Re: Let's have a vote!

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 11:27:54AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Martin Read wrote: > >On 25/09/14 15:42, Rob Owens wrote: > >>I agree that "let's wait until we have a good init to move to" should > >>have been more seriously considered, but for some reason people were in > >>a big hurry to make a

Re: preseed from CD different to network booting

Hey Brian, On 26/09/14 19:24, Brian wrote: On Fri 26 Sep 2014 at 19:02:57 +0100, Iain M Conochie wrote: I am trying to compose a real basic preseed file, that will answer all the d-i questions so that the install is completely automated. This works on a PXE boot (with dhcp) but not with a C

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 9:12 AM, The Wanderer wrote: > > But almost every Debian install includes at least a SSH server, and if > you haven't gone out of your way to arrange otherwise, it can probably > be reached from the outside Internet by someone who knows the correct IP > address. Is ss

Re: preseed from CD different to network booting

On Fri 26 Sep 2014 at 19:02:57 +0100, Iain M Conochie wrote: > I am trying to compose a real basic preseed file, that will answer > all the d-i questions so that the install is completely automated. > This works on a PXE boot (with dhcp) but not with a CD boot (with > dhcp). I still get asked to

preseed from CD different to network booting

Hey Debianers, I am trying to compose a real basic preseed file, that will answer all the d-i questions so that the install is completely automated. This works on a PXE boot (with dhcp) but not with a CD boot (with dhcp). I still get asked to confirm my hostname, domain name and also if I wa

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

The Wanderer writes: > If you're saying to take the problem to the individual upstreams, then > you are effectively saying that you believe that systemd upstream > already is uncooperative, and already is refusing to fix the problems. I get the distinct impression that systemd upstream views these

Re: systemd and server use

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 01:02:16PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 09/26/2014 at 12:26 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:03:57 +0200 Martin Steigerwald > > wrote: > > >> Actually systemd has quite some features which benefi

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Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/26/2014 at 12:44 PM, Martin Read wrote: > On 26/09/14 16:09, Miles Fidelman wrote: >> - but the resulting impacts should be taken up with each and >> every upstream developer? > > As far as I can see, the issue that people are suggesting sho

Re: systemd and server use

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/26/2014 at 12:26 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:03:57 +0200 Martin Steigerwald > wrote: >> Actually systemd has quite some features which benefits server >> use. >> >> For example: >> >> 1) It groups services and shell se

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

On 26/09/14 16:09, Miles Fidelman wrote: So let's see: - the technical committee selects takes a vote that essentially imposes systemd on all of the upstream developers and packagers The technical committee has no authority (and limited soft power) with respect to what *upstream* developers (i

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Re: systemd and server use (was: Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream)

On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:03:57 +0200 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Hi! > > Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 22:53:09 schrieb The Wanderer: > > On 09/25/2014 at 06:09 AM, martin f krafft wrote: > > > But dependency creep is unfortunately nothing new ever since we > > > declared next year the Year o

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

On 26/09/14 12:23 PM, Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Sep 26, 2014 11:56 AM, "Harry Putnam" > wrote: > > After an `aptitude full-upgrade' this morning. I still get the > `VULNERABLE' answer to `x='() { :;}; echo VULNERABLE' bash -c :' > > I hope that is the correct string.

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

On Sep 26, 2014 11:56 AM, "Harry Putnam" wrote: > > After an `aptitude full-upgrade' this morning. I still get the > `VULNERABLE' answer to `x='() { :;}; echo VULNERABLE' bash -c :' > > I hope that is the correct string... (extracted while googling on > vulnerability) > > I did ssh to my user fro

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Miles Fidelman writes: > the technical committee selects takes a vote that essentially imposes > systemd on all of the upstream developers and packagers Where the hell do you get that from? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@list

Re: Has the Bash vulnerability been fixed on Jessie yet?

On Thursday 25 September 2014 11:32:33 Brian wrote: > On Thu 25 Sep 2014 at 11:48:28 +0200, Paul Anzel wrote: > > I see that the Shellshock exploit has been fixed on Wheezy, but I've > > tried running apt-get update/upgrade on my Jessie system and the > > vulnerability still appears to be there. Ha

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/26/2014 at 11:56 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > After an `aptitude full-upgrade' this morning. I still get the > `VULNERABLE' answer to `x='() { :;}; echo VULNERABLE' bash -c :' > > I hope that is the correct string... (extracted while googling

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

On Friday 26 September 2014 16:56:05 Harry Putnam wrote: > After an `aptitude full-upgrade' this morning. I still get the > `VULNERABLE' answer to `x='() { :;}; echo VULNERABLE' bash -c :' > > I hope that is the correct string... (extracted while googling on > vulnerability) > > I did ssh to my us

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bash vulnerability jessie

After an `aptitude full-upgrade' this morning. I still get the `VULNERABLE' answer to `x='() { :;}; echo VULNERABLE' bash -c :' I hope that is the correct string... (extracted while googling on vulnerability) I did ssh to my user from the same shell I ran aptitude in to make sure I had a new log

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On 09/26/2014 09:13 AM, Rajavel wrote: > > > Thanks for your mail. Please keep on listening to Love Guru, only on Radio > City 91.1FM, Monday to Saturday - 9pm to 1am. You can listen to Love Guru, > from any part of the world through, Radio City Tamil web radio. The link is > available in www.

Re: 'motion' does not save movies, only still pics

- Original Message - > From: "Scott Ferguson" > On 26/09/14 00:12, Rob Owens wrote: > > One thing that may be a factor in my case is that my test webcam is > > very slow. I am only getting one picture every 2 or 3 seconds when > > motion is detected. I have framerate set to 2 fps. Maybe

Re: Let's have a vote!

Martin Read wrote: On 25/09/14 15:42, Rob Owens wrote: I agree that "let's wait until we have a good init to move to" should have been more seriously considered, but for some reason people were in a big hurry to make a move. The vote held was "What should the default init system *in jessie*

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 01:45:50 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald writes: Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 23:50:46 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald writes: Do you really think they will be able to prevent all the other software from depending on a particula

Re: Can't We Have Another Vote for Systemd (Coup)

Joel Roth wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 05:01:03PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: On 09/25/2014 02:25 PM, Joel Roth wrote: I would say that systemd takeover of major Linux distributions and of Debian in particular would be a perfect subject for Groklaw. How so?? Legally, Debian has the legal stance

Re: syslog messages flooding the console

* Darac Marjal [140924 07:37]: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 05:55:22PM -0700, John Magolske wrote: > > After a recent `aptitude dist-upgrade` I'm getting syslog messages > > flooding the console, pages & pages of "Asset Found" stuff like: > > > > Message from syslogd@mymachine at Sep 23 13:46:11 ...

Re: DNS Resolution and Short Names with Dots

Mark Kamichoff a écrit : >> >> If the change is in libc, it appears to be between 2.19-4 and 2.19-7. >> >> http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/g/glibc/glibc_2.19-11_changelog >> >> .. doesn't seem to indicate any resolver / DNS changes between those >> versions, though. I'll con

Re: [OT] SSH Server for Android

On 26/09/2014 16:24, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2014-09-22 18:05:00 +, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: I've used this one (mostly for copying files): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=berserker.android.apps.sshdroid The last time I tried SSHDroid, it automatically started a server w

Re: Suggestions? A small webserver for file upload

On 26/09/14 23:55, softwatt wrote: > On 09/26/2014 03:24 PM, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: >> It sounds to me like a good use case for retroshare or owncloud. >> The last one is available in debian as package and has a good community >> as far as i know. > > Yes, those do the job. But if only some simp

Re: Debian/Linux equivalent of RDP session / remote X11 session

On Monday, September 22, 2014 1:50:02 AM UTC+5:30, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > op 21-09-14 14:33, lee schreef: > > Hi, > > what's the Debian or Linux equivalent to MS Windows terminal server > > sessions through the remote desktop thing they have? > > I would like to be able to let a user work remot

Re: 24/7 servers and FSCK

On 26/09/14 22:51, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > hello all, > > i have several debian server and they are up 24/7. even i have a server > which is up for 1.5 years. without restart. > > now i know when ever i restart this for the maintenance it will run the > fsck to check the disk. which is fi

Re: Suggestions? A small webserver for file upload

On 09/26/2014 03:24 PM, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: > It sounds to me like a good use case for retroshare or owncloud. > The last one is available in debian as package and has a good community > as far as i know. Yes, those do the job. But if only some simple file sharing is needed, both are *overkil

Re: PuTTY tips for Debian users

Hi Stephen, I've enjoyed reading your well-written and thoroughly researched posts. Have you considered putting them somewhere else, e.g. the Debian wiki? One point: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:11:41PM -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > One of the things I recommended was setting the terminal type st

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Re: [OT] SSH Server for Android

On 2014-09-22 18:05:00 +, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > I've used this one (mostly for copying files): > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=berserker.android.apps.sshdroid The last time I tried SSHDroid, it automatically started a server with the default root password "admin"! So, a

Re: 24/7 servers and FSCK

On 26/09/14 08:51 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: hello all, i have several debian server and they are up 24/7. even i have a server which is up for 1.5 years. without restart. now i know when ever i restart this for the maintenance it will run the fsck to check the disk. which is fine and i

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