Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-01 Thread David
On 2 March 2014 18:32, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > For some reason your posts have broken threads and I can't find the > first one. :/ https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/02/thrd3.html#01175 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 11:39, Richard Owlett wrote: > Brian wrote: >> On Sat 01 Mar 2014 at 14:38:14 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >>> Created myiso1.iso from Wheezy(7.1) DVD 1 of 10 using dd and then >>> used dd to copy it to a USB flash drive. >>> >>> I was able to boot from the flash drive and do several

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 16:53, y...@marupa.net wrote: > On Sunday, March 02, 2014 04:25:13 PM Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 02/03/14 11:28, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: Here's mine:- troll elsewhere - try rabbleRus.org or LetMeTellUWhat2Do.mob >>

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread yaro
On Sunday, March 02, 2014 07:21:28 PM Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 11:53:28PM -0600, y...@marupa.net wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > > And then there's NSA (and the companies they outsource to) - they *do* > > > have an agenda that wou

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 11:53:28PM -0600, y...@marupa.net wrote: > > > On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > > And then there's NSA (and the companies they outsource to) - they *do* > > have an agenda that would be furthered by creating divisions and > > uncertainty in Debia

Re: Test

2014-03-01 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 01:41:48AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > My apologies, I'm aware that no test mails should be send to the Debian > user mailing list. If I reply (several times) I don't come through the > list anymore. Some time ago I needed to reply 3 or 4 times and then one > reply did cam

Re: Test

2014-03-01 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 01:41:48AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > My apologies, I'm aware that no test mails should be send to the Debian > user mailing list. If I reply (several times) I don't come through the > list anymore. Some time ago I needed to reply 3 or 4 times and then one > reply did came

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread yaro
On Sunday, March 02, 2014 04:25:13 PM Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 02/03/14 11:28, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> Here's mine:- > >> troll elsewhere - try rabbleRus.org or LetMeTellUWhat2Do.mob > >> > > :D > > > > We Arch users made a poll. Eve

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 12:26, ghaverla wrote: > On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 01:28:38 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against >> systemd, the developers would have switched to systemd, but most users >> wanted systemd. We, around 49% and me were against

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread ghaverla
On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 03:11:24 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2014-03-01 at 18:26 -0700, ghaverla wrote: > > But to read that a split of 49:51 means there can't be options is > > disheartening. > > I was inaccurate, I guess there were much more than 51% pro > sytsmed ;). But indeed, systemd

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 11:28, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> Here's mine:- >> troll elsewhere - try rabbleRus.org or LetMeTellUWhat2Do.mob > > :D > > We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against > systemd, the developers would have

Re: Jessie almost freezes every several minutes

2014-03-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 01/03/14 06:26 PM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 06:11:42PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: BTW: there is something more than just KDE since I didn't get a slowdown when I tried it with a new user without having the raid array /home. The differences besides the raid array are: - new user

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-03-01 at 18:26 -0700, ghaverla wrote: > But to read that a split of 49:51 means there can't be options is > disheartening. I was inaccurate, I guess there were much more than 51% pro sytsmed ;). But indeed, systemd caused the longest flame wars on several mailing lists I ever read + I

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread ghaverla
On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 01:28:38 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against > systemd, the developers would have switched to systemd, but most users > wanted systemd. We, around 49% and me were against systemd, but around > 51 % were pro systemd.

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread yaro
On Sunday, March 02, 2014 01:34:20 AM Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > Here's mine:- > > troll elsewhere - try rabbleRus.org or LetMeTellUWhat2Do.mob > : > :D > > We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against > systemd, the

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > Here's mine:- > troll elsewhere - try rabbleRus.org or LetMeTellUWhat2Do.mob :D We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against systemd, the developers would have switched to systemd, but most users wanted systemd. W

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > Here's mine:- > troll elsewhere - try rabbleRus.org or LetMeTellUWhat2Do.mob :D We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against systemd, the developers would have switched to systemd, but most users wanted systemd. W

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > Here's mine:- > troll elsewhere - try rabbleRus.org or LetMeTellUWhat2Do.mob :D We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against systemd, the developers would have switched to systemd, but most users wanted systemd. W

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > Here's mine:- > troll elsewhere - try rabbleRus.org or LetMeTellUWhat2Do.mob :D We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against systemd, the developers would have switched to systemd, but most users wanted systemd. W

Test

2014-03-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
My apologies, I'm aware that no test mails should be send to the Debian user mailing list. If I reply (several times) I don't come through the list anymore. Some time ago I needed to reply 3 or 4 times and then one reply did came through the list. I wonder if mails will come through the list, when

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-01 Thread Richard Owlett
Brian wrote: On Sat 01 Mar 2014 at 14:38:14 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: Created myiso1.iso from Wheezy(7.1) DVD 1 of 10 using dd and then used dd to copy it to a USB flash drive. I was able to boot from the flash drive and do several installs (different DE's). *HOWEVER* I can *NOT* mount the

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 08:09, disbandtechc...@tfwno.gf wrote: > FOUR people made a decision that would once have required > thousands of votes. FOUR votes overrideds the decision > debian took before the tech-ctte dictatorship to standardize > on system V init rather than bsd style init scripts > > The tech-

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-01 Thread Brian
On Sat 01 Mar 2014 at 14:38:14 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Created myiso1.iso from Wheezy(7.1) DVD 1 of 10 using dd and then > used dd to copy it to a USB flash drive. > > I was able to boot from the flash drive and do several installs > (different DE's). > > *HOWEVER* I can *NOT* mount the f

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 03:20, Slavko wrote: > Hi, > > Dňa Sat, 01 Mar 2014 21:00:23 +1100 Scott Ferguson > napísal: > >> See "Bug#740073: netinst hangs on scanning CD-ROM" >> > > You can add comment into mentioned bug (i forgot details ;-) ), to > another people can find workaround, until it will be solve

Re: Issue importing a large MYSQL database.

2014-03-01 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 01:33:44PM -0600, John W. Foster wrote: > Yep this is Debian specific. I have a system running Debian Wheezy; up > to date; AMD 6 core processor; 4GB ram. Terabytes of disk space. This > computer is in my office, not a remote. I am trying to use command line > instructio

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 03:44, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 01 mar 14, 17:20:44, Slavko wrote: >> Dňa Sat, 01 Mar 2014 21:00:23 +1100 Scott Ferguson >> napísal: >> >>> See "Bug#740073: netinst hangs on scanning CD-ROM" >> >> You can add comment into mentioned bug (i forgot details ;-) ) > > That's very eas

Re: Jessie almost freezes every several minutes

2014-03-01 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 06:11:42PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > BTW: there is something more than just KDE since I didn't get a > slowdown when I tried it with a new user without having the raid > array /home. The differences besides the raid array are: > - new user configuration with almost no files

Re: Jessie almost freezes every several minutes

2014-03-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 01/03/14 12:36 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 12:11:35 -0500 Gary Dale wrote: On 01/03/14 11:30 AM, Gary Dale wrote: I shut down iceweasel and things seemed noticeably faster. I was still getting the solid disk light intermittently but it's didn't slow the

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-01 Thread David
On 2 March 2014 07:38, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Created myiso1.iso from Wheezy(7.1) DVD 1 of 10 using dd and then used dd to > copy it to a USB flash drive. > > I was able to boot from the flash drive and do several installs (different > DE's). > > *HOWEVER* I can *NOT* mount the flash drive to v

Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread disbandtechctte
FOUR people made a decision that would once have required thousands of votes. FOUR votes overrideds the decision debian took before the tech-ctte dictatorship to standardize on system V init rather than bsd style init scripts The tech-ctte was created to arbitrate and decide disputes between pack

Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-01 Thread Richard Owlett
Richard Owlett wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: David wrote: [snip] The first link I provided is still valid, and provides instructions how to create an iso file from cd media. Did you try this? What happens when you follow those instructions? I made one attempt but dd effectively ignored me. A

Issue importing a large MYSQL database.

2014-03-01 Thread John W. Foster
Yep this is Debian specific. I have a system running Debian Wheezy; up to date; AMD 6 core processor; 4GB ram. Terabytes of disk space. This computer is in my office, not a remote. I am trying to use command line instructions to restore/import a database that I exported a few weeks back from a remo

Re: Jessie almost freezes every several minutes

2014-03-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 01/03/14 12:36 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 12:11:35 -0500 Gary Dale wrote: On 01/03/14 11:30 AM, Gary Dale wrote: I shut down iceweasel and things seemed noticeably faster. I was still getting the solid disk light intermittently but it's didn't slow the

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-03-01 Thread Slavko
Andrei, Dňa Sat, 1 Mar 2014 18:44:31 +0200 Andrei POPESCU napísal: > On Sb, 01 mar 14, 17:20:44, Slavko wrote: > > Dňa Sat, 01 Mar 2014 21:00:23 +1100 Scott Ferguson > > napísal: > > > > > See "Bug#740073: netinst hangs on scanning CD-ROM" > > > > You can add comment into mentioned bug (i for

Re: Jessie almost freezes every several minutes

2014-03-01 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 12:11:35 -0500 Gary Dale wrote: > On 01/03/14 11:30 AM, Gary Dale wrote: > > I shut down iceweasel and things seemed noticeably faster. I was > > still getting the solid disk light intermittently but it's didn't > > slow the system to a crawl. After restarting Iceweasel and >

Re: Re^3: Mutt: SSL Certificate check ... SASL

2014-03-01 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 01 mar 14, 07:59:02, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > The only way I can make sense of this is that the instructions are crossed. > TLS access should be to mail.easthope.ca with appropriate certificate. > In-the-clear access should be to ccx.websitewelcome.com with no certificate. Sorry, I mus

Re: Jessie almost freezes every several minutes

2014-03-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 01/03/14 11:30 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 28/02/14 04:15 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 27 feb 14, 18:54:22, Gary Dale wrote: I have a system with an FX6100 processor, 16G of DDR3 RAM, a 128G SSD for / and a 5-drive RAID-5 array (for /home) with lots of free space. [snip system slowdowns] I

Re^3: Mutt: SSL Certificate check ... SASL

2014-03-01 Thread peter
From: Dan Purgert Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 06:41:31 -0500 > Because that's how SSL/TLS works. If the server you're attempting to get > to presents the wrong certificate, then it's assumed that server is not > who the user intended to get to, and the connection is failed. Makes perfect sense. A

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-03-01 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 01 mar 14, 17:20:44, Slavko wrote: > Dňa Sat, 01 Mar 2014 21:00:23 +1100 Scott Ferguson > napísal: > > > See "Bug#740073: netinst hangs on scanning CD-ROM" > > You can add comment into mentioned bug (i forgot details ;-) ) That's very easy, just write an e-mail to @bugs.debian.org One ca

Re: Jessie almost freezes every several minutes

2014-03-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 28/02/14 04:15 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 27 feb 14, 18:54:22, Gary Dale wrote: I have a system with an FX6100 processor, 16G of DDR3 RAM, a 128G SSD for / and a 5-drive RAID-5 array (for /home) with lots of free space. [snip system slowdowns] Is that soft RAID? Try booting without it

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-03-01 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Sat, 01 Mar 2014 21:00:23 +1100 Scott Ferguson napísal: > See "Bug#740073: netinst hangs on scanning CD-ROM" > You can add comment into mentioned bug (i forgot details ;-) ), to another people can find workaround, until it will be solved... regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk sign

Re: Re^2: Mutt: SSL Certificate check ... SASL authentication failed

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 01/03/14 22:41, Dan Purgert wrote: > On 01/03/2014 00:38, Peter Easthope wrote: >> References: <2b8c71ec0272453c696df1a5d4ad9c87.squir...@easthope.ca> >> <53115869.3090...@gmail.com> >> >> From: Scott Ferguson >> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 14:47:53 +1100 >>> Shouldn't that certificate be for domain

Re: Re^2: Mutt: SSL Certificate check ... SASL authentication failed

2014-03-01 Thread Dan Purgert
On 01/03/2014 00:38, Peter Easthope wrote: > References: <2b8c71ec0272453c696df1a5d4ad9c87.squir...@easthope.ca> > <53115869.3090...@gmail.com> > > From: Scott Ferguson > Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 14:47:53 +1100 >> Shouldn't that certificate be for domain from which you are mailing? >> e.g. *.eastho

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 28/02/14 20:11, Slavko wrote: > Ahoj, > > Dňa Fri, 28 Feb 2014 14:09:13 +1100 Scott Ferguson > napísal: > >> The installer stalls at d-i Stage 5, apt-setup, with the process hung >> at 11% - it appears as if "apt-cdrom add" has been invoked but >> doesn't read input from the operator to enabl

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28/02/14 20:11, Slavko wrote: > Ahoj, > > Dňa Fri, 28 Feb 2014 14:09:13 +1100 Scott Ferguson > napísal: > >> The installer stalls at d-i Stage 5, apt-setup, with the process >> hung at 11% - it appears as if "apt-cdrom add" has been invoked >> b