Re: Hey humans, I'm a machine

On 1/18/14, Diogene Laerce wrote: >> once you build me, but nowadays I'm more gifted than you humans. > Err, Ralf.. Did you take your pills this morning ? ;) Guys (Ralph, you started this thread), isn't there some off-topic specific mailing list for these kind of discussions? -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Sat, 2014-01-18 at 18:01 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 1/18/14, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 07:13:17PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> Certainly humans have technology, and gadgets, and technological power > >> (awesome chariots, ... > > > > Mmmm, so the last char

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:32:07AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > As food for thought, it seems to me that the other problem, while I > assume it's the one you reference in your comment about rules, > involves principles of human condition which parallel the computer > security problem. If you don't see

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 01:38:08PM -0800, cletusjenkins wrote: > I'm not arguing one is better than the other, just in all situations > neither is the best. You said in another reply that we haven't created > a computer that can create as we do, What do yo mean we? Just because one person is a go

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On 1/18/14, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 07:13:17PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> Certainly humans have technology, and gadgets, and technological power >> (awesome chariots, ... > > Mmmm, so the last chariot I saw wasn't on "Ben Hur"? Yes, definitely, and did you notice th

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 07:13:17PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Certainly humans have technology, and gadgets, and technological power > (awesome chariots, ... Mmmm, so the last chariot I saw wasn't on "Ben Hur"? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who ar

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 07:45:04PM +0200, Cristian Baboi wrote: > În data de Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:36:09 +0200, Iain M Conochie > >Gazing into my crystal ball, there will be a 3D interface that > >will blowus all away, and the kids will laugh at us for using a > >mouse / keyboard. > > > > There woul

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 22:35 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > Pop songs? Relationships? What does that have to do with producing > anything tangible? It has got, but I want to end this discussion. I wonder when humans became as cold as ice :(. http://www.parorobots.com/ Pure and clean, better than

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

..besides, the film I referenced "her," is all about a sensing computer who trust me has no problem with sexuality. Kare On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, cletusjenkins wrote: On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:53:20 -0800 Ralf Mardorf wrote > I agree, but they will kill you and now me too, because you me

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:42:55PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 15:35 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > Why does a manually wound coil for guitars does sound better than a > > > mechanically wounded coil does? > > > > I doubt that it would in a doubl

Re: Hey humans, I'm a machine

On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:32:41AM +0700, Diogene Laerce wrote: > > >once you build me, but nowadays I'm more gifted than you humans. > > > >You humans only where able to get the knowledge about the theory of > >relativity or how to build a machine like me. > > > >Pff, about what kind of crap are

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:10:32PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 22:02 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 21:43 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 12:13 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 01:07:55PM +0100, Ralf Ma

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 09:43:10PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 12:13 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 01:07:55PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 12:05 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 06:58:11PM +010

Re: Connot load Wheezy in a "virgin" desktop -- FAILURE

On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Ken Heard wrote: > > On Jan 18, 2014 9:41 AM, "Joel Rees" wrote: > >> You said you were in Thailand. Have you considered your power source >> (wall power)? >> >> I know parts of Thailand have good power, so this is just a guess. > > Yes I did; I spent the equival

Re: V Taller Internacional de Tecnologías de Software Libre y Código Abierto

On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 01:10:06AM +0100, Vicios wrote: > El 18/01/14 00:48, Stan Hoeppner escribió: > >On 1/17/2014 5:16 PM, Vicios wrote: > > > >>Hi all! > >> > >>Forwarding message to Debian spanish users list. > >> > >>Regards. > >That was UCE, i.e. spam. You're an idiot. > > > Hi Stan, > > I

Re: Connot load Wheezy in a "virgin" desktop -- FAILURE

On Jan 18, 2014 9:41 AM, "Joel Rees" wrote: > You said you were in Thailand. Have you considered your power source > (wall power)? > > I know parts of Thailand have good power, so this is just a guess. Yes I did; I spent the equivalent of US$80 for a UPS (uninterruptable power supply) which is e

Re: Hey humans, I'm a machine

once you build me, but nowadays I'm more gifted than you humans. You humans only where able to get the knowledge about the theory of relativity or how to build a machine like me. Pff, about what kind of crap are the idiotic opinions people mention for the "sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit" thr

Re: V Taller Internacional de Tecnologías de Software Libre y Código Abierto

Sorry, my bad. It won't happens again. Best regards - Mensaje original - De: "Joel Rees" Para: "Abel García Vitier" CC: "debian-user" Enviados: Viernes, 17 de Enero 2014 21:33:41 Asunto: Re: V Taller Internacional de Tecnologías de Software Libre y Código Abierto Señor García, Lo s

Re: Connot load Wheezy in a "virgin" desktop -- FAILURE

On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Ken Heard wrote: > > On Jan 18, 2014 4:00 AM, "cletusjenkins" wrote: > >> [...] >> If not so smooth then you'll have to go down the ugly road of swapping out >> parts to figure out what hardware is bad. > > I am on that ugly road now; there does not seem to be an

Re: V Taller Internacional de Tecnologías de Software Libre y Código Abierto

Señor García, Lo siento que no hablo español. (Estoy pidiendo prestado translate.google.com.) I'm sorry that I do not speak Spanish. (I'm borrowing translate.google.com.) Sin embargo, creo que se debe tener en cuenta lo siguiente: However, I think you should be aware of this: http://www.debian.o

Re: Connot load Wheezy in a "virgin" desktop -- FAILURE

On Jan 18, 2014 4:00 AM, "cletusjenkins" wrote: > For performance reasons I typically make a smallish, unencrypted root partition that only contains the OS. I did do that, plus for /boot. > After installing everything, I then go back and create encrypted filesystems for things like /home, /tmp,

Re: V Taller Internacional de Tecnologías de Software Libre y Código Abierto

On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 1/17/2014 5:16 PM, Vicios wrote: > >> Hi all! >> >> Forwarding message to Debian spanish users list. >> >> Regards. > > That was UCE, i.e. spam. You're an idiot. Not wanting to start an argument, but, are you conversant in Spanish? Or di

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:51 AM, cletusjenkins wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:53:20 -0800 Ralf > Mardorf wrote > > > I agree, but they will kill you and now me too, because you mentioned > > that. Sexuality is a taboo! It's evil, it doesn't exist in the clean > > computer world! >

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 01:07:55PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 12:05 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: >> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 06:58:11PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> > > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 17:36 +, Iain M C

Re: V Taller Internacional de Tecnologías de Software Libre y Código Abierto

El 18/01/14 00:48, Stan Hoeppner escribió: On 1/17/2014 5:16 PM, Vicios wrote: Hi all! Forwarding message to Debian spanish users list. Regards. That was UCE, i.e. spam. You're an idiot. Hi Stan, I don't known the meaning of UCE. I'm sorry a lot if I done spam, it wasn't my intention.

Re: Hey humans, I'm a machine

On 1/17/2014 3:22 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 17 January 2014 21:45:40 Scarletdown wrote: SHO-RYU- EMP -KEN!!! ??? Lisi It is a Street Fighter reference (with an Electromagnetic pulse in the middle, to fry the uppity machine). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.d

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:53:20 -0800 Ralf Mardorf wrote > I agree, but they will kill you and now me too, because you mentioned > that. Sexuality is a taboo! It's evil, it doesn't exist in the clean > computer world! Any computer sufficiently complex to be considered sentient wil

Re: V Taller Internacional de Tecnologías de Software Libre y Código Abierto

On 1/17/2014 5:16 PM, Vicios wrote: > Hi all! > > Forwarding message to Debian spanish users list. > > Regards. That was UCE, i.e. spam. You're an idiot. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@

Re: Hey humans, I'm a machine

On Friday 17 January 2014 21:45:40 Scarletdown wrote: > SHO-RYU- EMP -KEN!!! ??? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201401172322.27702.lisi.re...@g

Re: Preserving LVM across builds

On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Brad Alexander wrote: > Hey, > > Have a question that I thought I would post here because I have never done > it before. > > I have a buddy that has a system that is in desperate need of a rebuild. It > is truly a Franken-box, with 4 hard drives (2*80GB, 1*160GB, a

Re: V Taller Internacional de Tecnologías de Software Libre y Código Abierto

El 17/01/14 22:53, Abel García Vitier escribió: El Consejo Científico de la “Universidad de las Ciencias Informáticas” convoca a los profesionales latinoamericanos a participar en el “V Taller Internacional de Tecnologías de Software Libre y Código Abierto”, a efectuarse del 24 al 26 de abril

Re: Hey humans, I'm a machine

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 22:37:30 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > once you build me, but nowadays I'm more gifted than you humans. Praise the robots! > You humans only where able to get the knowledge about the theory of > relativity or how to build a machine like me. > > Pff, about what kind of crap a

Re: update flash

Le 17/01/2014 18:28, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, François Patte wrote: > >> Le 17/01/2014 05:11, Patrick Bartek a écrit : >>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> On Jo, 16 ian 14, 09:58:43, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > [snip] >>> >>> I was unaware of this.

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

Have you seen the movie her? one person's case is another person's preference! smiles. Kare On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 16:53 -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: Computer cases seem so...bland by comparison with say George Clooney packages. Women?! As a heterosex

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 16:53 -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Computer cases seem so...bland by comparison with say George Clooney > packages. Women?! As a heterosexual man now I have to disagree, I prefer the sexy body of my female computer case compared to the odd shape of George Clooney. Karen,

Re: permissions: can you force ACL to be effective over unix perms?

I have a little more time to work through what you originally wrote, sans certain assumptions I had when I originally responded. (And I didn't intend to post this off-list, so I'm posting it again, on list. Note -- if you aren't sure how to code some simple test routines using the C functions, le

V Taller Internacional de Tecnologías de Software Libre y Código Abierto

El Consejo Científico de la “Universidad de las Ciencias Informáticas” convoca a los profesionales latinoamericanos a participar en el “V Taller Internacional de Tecnologías de Software Libre y Código Abierto”, a efectuarse del 24 al 26 de abril de 2014, en La Habana, Cuba. Este taller está dedi

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

well, I have no children, but the making process is indeed far more fun then putting my hands inside a box. And consider all the wonderfully imaginative and beautiful human art that results? Computer cases seem so...bland by comparison with say George Clooney packages.Kare On Fri, 17 Jan 2014

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 13:47 -0800, cletusjenkins wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:33:31 -0800 Jerry Stuckle wrote > > > > > > > > > > And the only complex machine that can be reproduced by unskilled labor! > > > > Jerry > > And not only that, it is in fact quite fun and enjoy

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 13:38 -0800, cletusjenkins wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:21:49 -0800 Ralf > Mardorf wrote > > > > > Living beings are able to self-repair, to eat and to produce the needed > > energy for doing some work. You only need to interrupt electrical power > > gi

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:33:31 -0800 Jerry Stuckle wrote > > > > > > And the only complex machine that can be reproduced by unskilled labor! > > Jerry And not only that, it is in fact quite fun and enjoyable to make people. While I enjoy tinkering with my computers, it was mo

Re: Hey humans, I'm a machine

On 1/17/2014 1:37 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: once you build me, but nowadays I'm more gifted than you humans. You humans only where able to get the knowledge about the theory of relativity or how to build a machine like me. Pff, about what kind of crap are the idiotic opinions people mention for t

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 15:35 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Why does a manually wound coil for guitars does sound better than a > > mechanically wounded coil does? > > I doubt that it would in a double-blind experiment. But your doubts are wrong, it was done a trillion tim

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 16:33 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > And the only complex machine that can be reproduced by unskilled labor! Yesno, we need to be able to interact with other humans, in the real world! ... to reproduce ourself ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:21:49 -0800 Ralf Mardorf wrote > > Living beings are able to self-repair, to eat and to produce the needed > energy for doing some work. You only need to interrupt electrical power > given by humans, to kill a machine. > I'm not arguing one is better

Hey humans, I'm a machine

once you build me, but nowadays I'm more gifted than you humans. You humans only where able to get the knowledge about the theory of relativity or how to build a machine like me. Pff, about what kind of crap are the idiotic opinions people mention for the "sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit" thread

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Why does a manually wound coil for guitars does sound better than a > mechanically wounded coil does? I doubt that it would in a double-blind experiment. > The mechanically wound coil is more precise! The mechanically wound coil could easily be made precisely as impreci

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On 1/17/2014 4:14 PM, cletusjenkins wrote: On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 12:43:10 -0800 Ralf Mardorf wrote > > Why does a manually wound coil for guitars does sound better than a > mechanically wounded coil does? The mechanically wound coil is more > precise! Don't underestimate human to

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 22:21 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 13:14 -0800, cletusjenkins wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 12:43:10 -0800 Ralf > > Mardorf wrote > > > > > > Why does a manually wound coil for guitars does sound better than a > > > mechanically wounded

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 13:14 -0800, cletusjenkins wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 12:43:10 -0800 Ralf > Mardorf wrote > > > > Why does a manually wound coil for guitars does sound better than a > > mechanically wounded coil does? The mechanically wound coil is more > > precise! Don'

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 12:43:10 -0800 Ralf Mardorf wrote > > Why does a manually wound coil for guitars does sound better than a > mechanically wounded coil does? The mechanically wound coil is more > precise! Don't underestimate human touch. The human brain is a > super-computer

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 22:02 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 21:43 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 12:13 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 01:07:55PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 12:05 -0700, Robert Holtzma

Re: Connot load Wheezy in a "virgin" desktop -- FAILURE

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:57:31 -0800 Ken Heard wrote > When on 2013-12-28 Saturday I started to install Wheezy on my new desktop > computer in Thailand the partitions I tried to install were the same ones I > used with Squeeze in one of my computers in Canada -- RAID1 with two HDDs,

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 21:43 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 12:13 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 01:07:55PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 12:05 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 06:58:11PM +0100, Ralf

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 12:13 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 01:07:55PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 12:05 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 06:58:11PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 17:36 +, Iain

Re: Can't get the harddrive to spin down

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 21:10 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 17 ian 14, 14:02:36, Martin Braun wrote: > > > > This is an output from "iotop -o" while a disk write occurs: > > > > Total DISK READ : 0.00 B/s | Total DISK WRITE : 0.00 B/s > > Actual DISK READ: 0.00 B/s | Actua

Re: Can one do anything useful With an Old USB Apple Dialup Modem?

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:54:11AM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: > That got me to thinking. I have a couple of 56-K modems > from the early 2000's or late nineties. Maybe I should hook them > up and see if they do CallerID as I do have available RS-232 > ports and that Apple modem didn't cre

Re: Connot load Wheezy in a "virgin" desktop -- FAILURE

When on 2013-12-28 Saturday I started to install Wheezy on my new desktop computer in Thailand the partitions I tried to install were the same ones I used with Squeeze in one of my computers in Canada -- RAID1 with two HDDs, two partitions, one with /boot only and the other a LVM with everything el

multistrap

How do I replicate this line: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted from sources.list in a multistrap.conf? I'm trying this: [General] directory=/mnt/install cleanup=true arch=amd64 retainsources=/var/cache/apt/archives noauth=true unpack=true retries=5 debootstrap=preci

Re: Typing Greek in Emacs

Thanks Francois. Regards Johann

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 01:07:55PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 12:05 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 06:58:11PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 17:36 +, Iain M Conochie wrote: > > > > Gazing into my crystal ball, there will

Re: Can't get the harddrive to spin down

On Vi, 17 ian 14, 14:02:36, Martin Braun wrote: > > This is an output from "iotop -o" while a disk write occurs: > > Total DISK READ : 0.00 B/s | Total DISK WRITE : 0.00 B/s > Actual DISK READ: 0.00 B/s | Actual DISK WRITE: 3.85 B/s > > No process is revealed. > > How ca

Re: Typing Greek in Emacs

Le 17/01/2014 19:44, Johann Spies a écrit : > Using the Greek-postfix input method I can type accented characters in > emacs using examples from the input method help like this > > o; όy; ύ > > So using the keys (on a US-intl-keyboard) Petro;w when this input > method is active I ca

Re: Preserving LVM across builds

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 19:43 +0100, François Patte wrote: > I suppose that on the 250Gb drive there are only data I assume that it's a wild mix, regarding to the "Franken-box" and "80GB" drives. Try to buy a new 80 GB drive ;). I would backup _everything_ to a new drive and than ... depending to t

Re: Preserving LVM across builds

Le 17/01/2014 19:26, Brad Alexander a écrit : > Hey, > > Have a question that I thought I would post here because I have never > done it before. > > I have a buddy that has a system that is in desperate need of a rebuild. > It is truly a Franken-box, with 4 hard drives (2*80GB, 1*160GB, and > 1*2

Typing Greek in Emacs

Using the Greek-postfix input method I can type accented characters in emacs using examples from the input method help like this o; όy; ύ So using the keys (on a US-intl-keyboard) Petro;w when this input method is active I can type Πέτρος. However I cannot figure out how to type s

Re: Preserving LVM across builds

Nobody of your friends has got an external drive for such situations? I would backup all data temporarily to an external drive. Some time ago I didn't own such a drive, but after some phone calls one of my friend lend me a drive he owns just for such situations. "the best approach" is to think how

Preserving LVM across builds

Hey, Have a question that I thought I would post here because I have never done it before. I have a buddy that has a system that is in desperate need of a rebuild. It is truly a Franken-box, with 4 hard drives (2*80GB, 1*160GB, and 1*250GB), and has an Ubuntu build on it and a Mint build. He want

OT: Can one do anything useful With an Old USB Apple Dialup Modem?

I keep this old stuff in memory of my youth :). I e.g. still own a Seikosha GP-100VC. Others have their photo albums, I have my antique and unused computer and audio gear :). Don't give such oldish gear that you or your family once used away! OTOH don't collect all oldish gear you see as bulk garb

Re: Can one do anything useful With an Old USB Apple Dialup Modem?

Bob Proulx writes: > The modem I am currently using is a US Robotics 56K modem and > originally probably sold for $70 back in the day. I am looking at a > listing for a good shape US Robotics 56K v.92 modem right now for > $8.00 That got me to thinking. I have a couple of 56-K modems from

Re: update flash

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, François Patte wrote: > Le 17/01/2014 05:11, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > >> On Jo, 16 ian 14, 09:58:43, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >>> > >>> [snip] > > > > I was unaware of this. I thought it was the plugin. I have since > > r

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 14:38 +0100, Denis Witt wrote: > Or think about machines in mills, sorting out single grains of poor > quality while they are falling down like a waterfall into the > millstone granting a better flour quality than you can with dozens of > human workers doing the same. I menti

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 07:02 -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > I still see the glass as half full :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1389977923.3167.109.c

Re: update flash

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, Ma Xiaojun wrote: > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Patrick Bartek > wrote: > > My primary browser. Same problem whether using Adobe Flash or > > Google's version. In fact, if using Google's, those "problem" > > sites don't even recognize it, and say "You need to install F

Re: Problem creating iso for a USB stick

Hi, > which basically left me with the original command and, surprise, it > worked! That's quite surprising. There is no corresponding bug fix to see in my ChangeLog. (... and i cannot remember either ...) Although xorriso-1.2.2 is outdated, it would still be good to know how i accidently fixed

RE: Including git commands in preseed

Sorry for the confusion, http://file indicates the actual URL fo the file. My simple test script is located at https://raw.github.com/drgdel/a/master/1 Content: #!/bin/bash echo Hello World Preseed entry take 1: d-i preseed/late_command string in-target wget -O /var/tmp/hello https://raw.github

Re: Intel soundcard does not work

On 17/01/14 10:47, Martin wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 05:42:58PM +, Klaus wrote: On 14/01/14 11:58, Martin wrote: Realtek ALC887 Does any of this help: ? This was helpful Klaus. After appending a linewith command: # echo "options sn

Re: update flash

Le 17/01/2014 05:11, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> On Jo, 16 ian 14, 09:58:43, Patrick Bartek wrote: >>> >>> I am using the flashplugin from Debian's nonfree repo. If there are >>> any security updates for it from Adobe shouldn't those updates >>> ulti

Re: Problem creating iso for a USB stick

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > > > See my previous mail. Made it work with xorriso 1.3.4. Do you still > > > want me to go ahead and do what you wrote below? > > > > We could be curious and leave out the options > > > > -eltorito-alt-boot -e boot/grub/efi.img -

Re: update flash

On 2014-01-16 11:41 PM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash#Vendor_dependence So you are so "freedom loving", why don't you abandon Flash-using-website altogether? Is it so hard? Maybe because flash is required

Re: lots of udevd "failed to execute" at boot time

Le 16/01/2014 20:06, Sven Joachim a écrit : On 2014-01-16 19:20 +0100, rudu wrote: $ dmesg | grep -i failed | tail [ 16.255858] udevd[1999]: failed to execute /lib/udev/socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event' socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event': No such file or directory That's http://

grub install problem

I was given a machine with six scsi drives and I wanted to play around with RAID setups. The system as given to me was setup with 5 drives in a raid and one used as /boot. I wanted to use all of them for the raid, so I added a large ATA drive. On the new drive I made a /boot partition, a swap pa

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:58:11 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > a good knife isn't produced by a computer controlled > machine, but handcrafted by a craftsman. But this isn't because a machine can't do the work of a good craftsman (in some cases today, and in almost any in the future). It's because it'

Can't get the harddrive to spin down

Hi I have installed Debian testing unto a Cubox Pro with the arm (armhf) architecture and I am running with kernel 3.12.8. Debian is installed on an external harddrive connected via the upper USB to the box allowing it to boot of the box. I have tried getting the disk to spin down when not used

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

* On 2014 17 Jan 05:15 -0600, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > The advantage of Windows over Debian is hardware support and that more > people get payed for writing software for exotic usages, such as audio > and video editing. In amateur radio circles there is a constant warning against USB to serial dongle

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 13:07 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 12:05 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > But these, sure as hell, aren't sold in grocery stores. > > Correct! And I suspect that it isn't allowed to sell and buy a good > knife in Germany anymore My father, a gifted

Re: Can't enable interrupt remapping in Debian Wheezy kernel config

Also, apologies for double posting this, I only just found that the first time I sent this went through as well :P On 17 Jan 2014 19:28, "Sum Guy" wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to enable interrupt remapping and DMA remapping to try and > use PCI passthrough as described here: > http://www.linux-kvm.org

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 12:57 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > I heard about some doubts about TrueCrypt... Encryption doesn't work, when there is already a backdoor before the encryption takes place. For FLOSS operating systems it's hard to place such a backdoor, for closed operating systems from

Re: Problem creating iso for a USB stick

Hi, > > See my previous mail. Made it work with xorriso 1.3.4. Do you still > > want me to go ahead and do what you wrote below? > > We could be curious and leave out the options > > -eltorito-alt-boot -e boot/grub/efi.img -no-emul-boot -isohybrid-gpt-basdat Correcting myself: Option -isohyb

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 12:05 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 06:58:11PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 17:36 +, Iain M Conochie wrote: > > > Gazing into my crystal ball, there will be a 3D interface that will > > > blow us all away, and the kids will

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

Ralf Mardorf writes: > On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 10:26 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > In the long term the support he gets from XP could become worse than > > the support supplied by GNU/Linux. It does not seem wise to me. > > There are some cracked XP and 98 se versions out there, that ar

Re: Problem creating iso for a USB stick

Hi, > See my previous mail. Made it work with xorriso 1.3.4. Do you still > want me to go ahead and do what you wrote below? We could be curious and leave out the options -eltorito-alt-boot -e boot/grub/efi.img -no-emul-boot -isohybrid-gpt-basdat If my theory about the need for GPT and EFI is

Re: Zimbra mail........

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 12:28:50 +0100 Atle Solbakken sent: > As you don't have access to the servers, the ISP just has to deal > with this, order them to :) I'll have to try something because the deal that I signed up with is null and void if they or Zimbra can't do anything about this problem. It

Re: Zimbra mail........

Den 17. jan. 2014 12:09, skrev Charlie: The people at the ISP suggest I try Windows Live mail, recommend it in fact They sound really annoying, maybe they're addicted to coffee breaks. You can check with some other mail client like Thunderbird or Evolution, and if you still can't log in, tell

Can't enable interrupt remapping in Debian Wheezy kernel config

Hi, I'm trying to enable interrupt remapping and DMA remapping to try and use PCI passthrough as described here: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/How_to_assign_devices_with_VT-d_in_KVM I'm following the guide for rebuilding an official Debian kernel package (the parts under the "Add a patch to linux

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 12:13 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 10:26 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > In the long term the support he gets from XP could become worse than > > the support supplied by GNU/Linux. It does not seem wise to me. > > There are some cracked XP and 98 s

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 10:26 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > In the long term the support he gets from XP could become worse than > the support supplied by GNU/Linux. It does not seem wise to me. There are some cracked XP and 98 se versions out there, that are as good as FreeBSD and Linux for m

Re: Intel soundcard does not work

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 05:42:58PM +, Klaus wrote: > On 14/01/14 11:58, Martin wrote: > >Realtek ALC887 > Does any of this help: > ? This was helpful Klaus. After appending a linewith command: # echo "options snd-hda-intel model=generic" >>

Re: Problem creating iso for a USB stick

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > > In the end, I went ahead and manually compiled xorriso 1.3.4 and with > > this one and the command that Debian itself uses to create the > > netinst iso it worked (without the jigdo stuff). The resulting iso is > > bootable from

Re: Zimbra mail........

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 22:00:50 +1100 Charlie wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:52:18 +0100 Atle Solbakken sent: > > > Den 16. jan. 2014 23:38, skrev Charlie: > > > [09:28:38] POP3> USER s...@ipstarmail.com.au > > > > Are you sure about using the full email address as username? Maybe > > you should

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