Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-19 Thread Chris Bannister
[How about being a bit more proactive with the trimming, guys.] On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 02:19:13PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Take windows, and say honestly that it does not contains > applications? explorer, mspaint, calc, msconfig, notepad, etc. Those > are applications, noth

Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output

2013-10-19 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/19/2013 9:17 PM, 陶治江 wrote: 于 2013-10-20 0:53, Lars Noodén 写道: On 19.10.2013 19:35, 陶治江 wrote: [snip] I think it seems good like this, but I do not know how to make out it.(someone says awk, sed may help, but the environment does not permit it). Is there some libs or tools can help make o

Re: Jessie Minimum Kernel Requirement

2013-10-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:30:46PM -0300, Beco wrote: > Yep, I confirm. I did this on my personal computers and two servers a > while back. Kind of confusing... I almost lost one of the servers. I > hope as time and Debian evolves, these procedures go safer and safer. Several transitions may take

Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output

2013-10-19 Thread Miles Fidelman
陶治江 wrote: 于 2013-10-20 0:53, Lars Noodén 写道: On 19.10.2013 19:35, 陶治江 wrote: [snip] I think it seems good like this, but I do not know how to make out it.(someone says awk, sed may help, but the environment does not permit it). Is there some libs or tools can help make output result good and e

Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output

2013-10-19 Thread Bob Proulx
陶治江 wrote: > I am now focusing on the development of a script interpretor (some > thing like shell) in embedded environment, and its functions mainly > output the data in specified address. In order to make it seems > better, I want to format the output result like MySQL output listed > below for e

Re: Advice on new desktop/building?

2013-10-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
>   Small or smallish form factor (currently using a slim tower), attractive >   SSD (small capacity--everything impt is on a NAS elsewhere, i just want the > system to run fast) >   Ability to have two monitors (currently using VGA and HDMI 'cause that's > the ports i have) >   Optical drive >  

Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output

2013-10-19 Thread John Hasler
Hack on busybox. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87txgck9ok@thumper.dhh.gt.org

Re: Usage of grep - Was: no .bash_hostory file was found in user home folder

2013-10-19 Thread Markus Falb
On 20.Okt.2013, at 00:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Sun, 2013-10-20 at 03:42 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: >>cat /etc/passwd | grep ykhan >>ykhan:x:19000:19000:ykhan,,,:/home/ykhan:/bin/bash > > [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep rocketmouse /etc/passwd > rocketmouse:x:100

Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output

2013-10-19 Thread 陶治江
于 2013-10-20 0:53, Lars Noodén 写道: On 19.10.2013 19:35, 陶治江 wrote: [snip] I think it seems good like this, but I do not know how to make out it.(someone says awk, sed may help, but the environment does not permit it). Is there some libs or tools can help make output result good and elegent? [sn

Re: X crashes

2013-10-19 Thread Antonio Paiva
Ed, It seems somehow you do not have the kernel modesetting (KMS) module loading during boot. https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting After you boot, check if the nouveau module has been loaded into the kernel space. If not, add it to /etc/modules. Hope this helps, Antonio On Wed, Oct 16, 2

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Sureyya Sahin
Ok, according to what you posted, it looks to me like your drive is in very good shape. If you're hearing clicks now that you didn't hear before, I'd say it's not because the drive is going bad. They're probably caused by something else, but I have no clue what. If you're concerned that the drive

Re: Advice on new desktop/building?

2013-10-19 Thread David Christensen
On 10/19/13 11:58, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: ... time to consider replacing [desktop computer]. ... This is to run Wheezy for simple desktop use--web surfing, running home music network, some videos, some coding, but no gaming, no video/sound editing, no real storage needs. I DO want: Sm

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-19 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/19/2013 3:50 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 07:04:21AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: ...snip.. Try again. States do not differentiate between civil engineers, mechanical engineers, etc. and other engineers. Use of the term "Engineer" is what is illeg

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 05:50:41PM -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: > OK, I guess this is the data you are asking for (I trimmed the other > part again to make the message short): Ok, according to what you posted, it looks to me like your drive is in very good shape. If you're hearing clicks now that y

Usage of grep - Was: no .bash_hostory file was found in user home folder

2013-10-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-10-20 at 03:42 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > cat /etc/passwd | grep ykhan > ykhan:x:19000:19000:ykhan,,,:/home/ykhan:/bin/bash [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep rocketmouse /etc/passwd rocketmouse:x:1000:1000::/home/rocketmouse:/bin/bash IOW if you use grep, th

Re: no .bash_hostory file was found in user home folder

2013-10-19 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
just sharing, root user got the .bash_history file. i can see all the commands with no issues with root user only On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > :~$ ls -la > total 8492368 > drwxr-xr-x 3 ykhan ykhan 4096 Aug 16 04:00 . > drwxr-xr-x 12 root root4096

Re: Advice on new desktop/building?

2013-10-19 Thread Antonio Paiva
Hi Jen, I also assembled my first desktop quite recently and I'm running Linux in it. My target specs were significantly higher than yours, but the cost of all the parts was around $650. If you want, I can give you the listing of want I built as a guide and you just remove or replace each part wit

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Sureyya Sahin
https://www.archlinux.org/ Absolutely in sync with upstream and more stable than Debian :p, but you have to set up Arch yourself. The install is without X, so without a DE. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /etc/issue Arch Linux \r (\l) Thank you for the suggestion. I tried both Arch linux and

no .bash_hostory file was found in user home folder

2013-10-19 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
:~$ ls -la total 8492368 drwxr-xr-x 3 ykhan ykhan 4096 Aug 16 04:00 . drwxr-xr-x 12 root root4096 Oct 19 17:57 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 ykhan ykhan220 Apr 16 2013 .bash_logout -rw-r--r-- 1 ykhan ykhan 3184 Apr 16 2013 .bashrc drwxr-xr-x 2 ykhan ykhan 4096 Aug 16 03:3

google-earth-stable: no imagery.

2013-10-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, Running uptodate Sid and google-earth-stable 7.1.1.1888-r0. I get political boundaries, roads, placenames, the weather but no imagery at all, just pure black. I see a bunch of these messages: ERROR:nss_ocsp.cc(581)] No URLRequestContext for OCSP handler. This strikes a bell with someone?

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 17:39 -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: > > > > Debian is stable because it goes through a long period of ensuring that > > the individual programs are stable before each version is released. This > > means that it is generally old when it is released. Some other > > distributions d

Re: ukash hijacked iceweasel

2013-10-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 12:46 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > I'm running iceweasel 17.0.9 which,as you know, is just a rebranded > firefox. When I access mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new it tells me I'm > using the latest version of firefox and doesn't give an option of > downloading a new browser. Fi

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Sureyya Sahin
On 19/10/13 05:44 PM, Gregory Nowak wrote: On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 05:30:41PM -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: Ok, I entered the command as root (not working as a regular user) and get this edited version (to keep my message short) of information: All your edited version tells us is what drive this

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 05:30:41PM -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: > Ok, I entered the command as root (not working as a regular user) > and get this edited version (to keep my message short) of > information: All your edited version tells us is what drive this is. To actually know what shape the driv

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Sureyya Sahin
Debian is stable because it goes through a long period of ensuring that the individual programs are stable before each version is released. This means that it is generally old when it is released. Some other distributions don't go through the same amount of stabilizing so they can be more up to

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 15:06 -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: > OK, if it is the HDD that is causing the sound, why does it seem like > it is randomly happening? I don't know. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas.

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Sureyya Sahin
From the command-line, you probably want something along the lines of: smartctl -a /dev/sda |more Greg Ok, I entered the command as root (not working as a regular user) and get this edited version (to keep my message short) of information: # smartctl -a /dev/sda | more smartctl 5.41 2011-

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 05:04:04PM -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: > I try it from the command-line > ..$ smart-notifier > > nothing is happening? >From the command-line, you probably want something along the lines of: smartctl -a /dev/sda |more Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Sureyya Sahin
The clicks could be caused by the HDD resetting the heads following an I/O failure. If the clicks are from the HDD then they won't go away with another OS. I didn't have the same problems with Fedora and opensuse in the past. I briefly tried Manjaro and it was working fine too. The problem I am

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Sureyya Sahin
On 19/10/13 04:46 PM, John Hasler wrote: Sureyya Sahin writes: Okay I installed the tools, it seems like it installed the daemon and the gui. But I can't see the gui from the applications menu in xfce. It's strange because it says that it's a gtk gui in the package description. So start it f

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Sureyya Sahin
On 19/10/13 02:51 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: A multi-boot to test a few distros can't harm, however, they all use Linux and user space from upstream, just the versions differ, some settings differ, the structure differs, e.g. for startup some use init others systemd and Ubuntu upstart, so solving

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread John Hasler
Sureyya Sahin writes: > Okay I installed the tools, it seems like it installed the daemon and > the gui. But I can't see the gui from the applications menu in > xfce. It's strange because it says that it's a gtk gui in the package > description. So start it from the command line. -- John Hasler

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-19 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 07:04:21AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: ...snip.. > > Try again. States do not differentiate between civil engineers, > mechanical engineers, etc. and other engineers. Use of the term > "Engineer" is what is illegal. Check with your state licensing > boa

Re: ukash hijacked iceweasel

2013-10-19 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 09:34:02AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 16:00 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > Install the extension/addon 'noscript' > > As already mentioned, I don't want to install another add-on. If I need > javascript disabled, I can use another browser and if h

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Sureyya Sahin
Sometimes I wonder if the piezoelectric disk beeper makes such noise or if there's a mechanical relay I never noticed for power. If not, than the HDDs make the sound. I'm quiet sure the noise is caused by the HDDs only and not by anything else. If you hear the click sometimes, than it's ok, this

Advice on new desktop/building?

2013-10-19 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum
My current desktop has been having some issues lately and I think its time to consider replacing it. Ive been having trouble finding exactly what I want, even tho' this is straightforward, so i though I'd ask here to get some advice, maybe even about building my own machine (which Ive never done

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 13:33 -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: > > 1) The clicking sound could also be the hard drive. Check the SMART > > health for it. > > > > 2) You can get later open-source drivers by switching the Debian/Jessie. > > The current state of Testing is a 3.10 kernel but the proprietary >

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Sureyya Sahin
No need for that. Install smartmontools. Add smart-notifier if you feel the need for a GUI. Okay I installed the tools, it seems like it installed the daemon and the gui. But I can't see the gui from the applications menu in xfce. It's strange because it says that it's a gtk gui in the pac

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 09:13 -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: > 1. When I shut down my computer, sometimes I am hearing mechanical click > sounds from my laptop during the shutdown process. I suspect that it may > be related to soundcards Sometimes I wonder if the piezoelectric disk beeper makes such

Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output

2013-10-19 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Sun, 20 Oct 2013 00:35:49 +0800 陶治江 napísal: > I think it seems good like this, but I do not know how to make out > it.(someone says awk, > sed may help, but the environment does not permit it). Is there some > libs or tools can > help make output result good and elegent? python has s

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread John Hasler
gsmartcontrol might also be of interest. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8738nxkutb@thumper.dh

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread John Hasler
Sureyya Sahin writes: > I will check and see if I can install SMART health on my system. I > made a google search and it seems like it has an RPM package. I guess > I will need to compile from sources. No need for that. Install smartmontools. Add smart-notifier if you feel the need for a GUI. --

Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Sureyya Sahin
1) The clicking sound could also be the hard drive. Check the SMART health for it. 2) You can get later open-source drivers by switching the Debian/Jessie. The current state of Testing is a 3.10 kernel but the proprietary drivers aren't available for it yet. You can also try switching to another

Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output

2013-10-19 Thread Lars Noodén
On 19.10.2013 19:35, 陶治江 wrote: [snip] > I think it seems good like this, but I do not know how to make out > it.(someone says awk, sed may help, but the environment does not > permit it). Is there some libs or tools can help make output result > good and elegent? [snip] Perl would be the next st

grub warning when updating

2013-10-19 Thread Guy Marcenac
Hello, I updated today my wheezy system. In the update there were both a grub and kernel updates. During install I got these messages Setting up grub-pc (1.99-27+deb7u2) ... /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partitionless disk or to a partition. This is a BAD idea.. /

How to format the command output like MySQL output

2013-10-19 Thread 陶治江
Hello everylinuxers: I am now focusing on the development of a script interpretor (some thing like shell) in embedded environment, and its functions mainly output the data in specified address. In order to make it seems better, I want to format the output result like MySQL output listed belo

Re: emacs and goldendict

2013-10-19 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 19 Oct 2013 13:34:07 +0200 François Patte napísal: > Bonjour, > > I have Emacs and Goldendict installed. Since the last upgrade (2 days > ago), everytime I press C-c-c in emacs, goldendict open a window! > > How to disable this horrific behaviour? It is not horrific behavior, i

Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown

2013-10-19 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> allow-auto eth0.9 >>> iface eth0.9 inet static >>> address 192.168.1.119 >>> netmask 255.255.255.0 >>> gateway 192.168.1.1 >>> post-up ip address add 192.168.1.199/24 dev eth0.9 >

Re: Gnome login screen not shown

2013-10-19 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-19, bhuvanesh kumar wrote: > > Hi, > I recently upgraded my system from Debian testing to Unstable. After, > upgrading i'm not able to login to my system. Instead of a login screen an > error page showing the text, > "Oh no! Something has gone wrong > A problem has occured and system ca

Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown

2013-10-19 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> I'm using Wheezy with ifup version 0.7.8, I think this is the >>> latest officially released (aka "the best") one? >> >> Strange. I was under the impression that Debian 7's ifupdown is us

Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1

2013-10-19 Thread Sureyya Sahin
Hello: I recently installed Debian Wheezy stable with xfce desktop; I am having problems with my hardware. 1. When I shut down my computer, sometimes I am hearing mechanical click sounds from my laptop during the shutdown process. I suspect that it may be related to soundcards; hp dm1 has an

Re: Dying hard drive?

2013-10-19 Thread Klaus
On 19/10/13 11:36, Veljko wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 07:31:55PM +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: This is highly manufacturer dependent. In my experience, with Seagate drives, it's normal to have Raw_Read_Error_Rate in the tens or hundreds of millions. Thanks for pointing this out. It does throw

Re: Dying hard drive?

2013-10-19 Thread Miles Fidelman
Veljko wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 06:50:11PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Gregory Nowak wrote: According to the above, I would say only sda and sdb are bad, sda being the worst of the two. I stand to be corrected as always. Yeah - that's what it looks like to me as well (having gotten ba

Wheezy amd64 & i386 package versions mismatch

2013-10-19 Thread Jari Fredriksson
Hello! Currently I have a Wheezy virtual machine in state, that apt refuses to install or update anything. Always the reason is that there is a version for the package, or some dependence in two arch, amd64 and i386, and they are of different version. Anyone seen this? dpkg: error processing li

emacs and goldendict

2013-10-19 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, I have Emacs and Goldendict installed. Since the last upgrade (2 days ago), everytime I press C-c-c in emacs, goldendict open a window! How to disable this horrific behaviour? Thank you. -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université P

Re: Logitech unified wireless

2013-10-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:17:56 +0200 Gareth de Vaux wrote: Hello Gareth, >I do need to redo the pairing on each boot in the OS though. Admittedly, I've only rebooted a couple since installing solaar, but have not had to re-pair my keyboard and mouse with the receiver. -- Regards _ /

Re: Dying hard drive?

2013-10-19 Thread Veljko
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 06:50:11PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Gregory Nowak wrote: > >According to the above, I would say only sda and sdb are bad, sda > >being the worst of the two. I stand to be corrected as always. > > > > > > Yeah - that's what it looks like to me as well (having gotten ba

Re: Problems with vesa X driver

2013-10-19 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 22:26:52 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: > I tried that. But the previous version of the driver has a dependency on > xserver-xorg-video-abi-12, which is a virtual package not currently provided > by any current package. The last package to provide it was the old version >

Re: Dying hard drive?

2013-10-19 Thread Veljko
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 07:31:55PM +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: > > I've found, at least for the WD drives I use in my servers - > > anything other than a 0 raw-read-error count is a sign of > > near-term disk failure. > > This is highly manufacturer dependent. In my experience, with > Seagate driv

Re: Dying hard drive?

2013-10-19 Thread Veljko
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:40:49PM -0400, mfidelman wrote: >> I'm using Seagate ST3000DM001-9YN166 drives, not enterprise-class drives. > > > Ok... seagate probably writes error codes in that field. Try googling the > model number and smart, or raw_read_error. That might help you track things >

Printer malfunction

2013-10-19 Thread Wayne Lorentz
I tried using the command line to research bugs and report my printer problem, but I do not have enough knowledge to interpret the terminology used. Below is a description of my problem. October 19, 2013 Preface My Lexmark printers' performance using Lenovo laptop computers 3000 N200 (i386) and z

Re: web-gui for scripts

2013-10-19 Thread Lars Noodén
On 18.10.2013 20:56, Pol Hallen wrote: [snip] > But is boring everytime connect to ssh and put new domain using command > line... :-/ [snip] You could try a single-purpose key. You are logging in using keys already, I hope? If you combine the single-purpose key with some changes to ~/.ssh/config

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Since there's only two of you participating in this (OT) sub thread now, perhaps you could take it off list? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e725e729-171

Re: Gnome login screen not shown

2013-10-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 09:40 +0530, bhuvanesh kumar wrote: > I recently upgraded my system from Debian testing to Unstable. After, > upgrading i'm not able to login to my system If you don't know what log files you should read, or at least post, I recommend to continue and to fix the issues by in