Re: Get list of restarted services during upgrade

2013-06-29 Thread Bob Proulx
Denis Witt wrote: > I'm running a Cluster that has to be set in Maintenance-Mode if > monitored services are restarted. I assume from this that services are being monitored. If they are restarted and during the restart the monitoring detects that the service is offline then it triggers an alert.

Re: "Operation not permitted" error when using su

2013-06-29 Thread Bob Proulx
Stephen Powell wrote: > ...logged in as root... >su barney >vi stuff >Error: messages not turned on: /dev/pts/0: Operation not permitted The above is basically a normal result of the current environment. At another level it is a bug in nvi. I suggest that you understand it and then i

fan control in wheezy

2013-06-29 Thread yudi v
Hi, I just installed wheeezy 64bit (kernel 3.2.0.4) and the fans (CPU fan and the two fans powered by the MB) are running at full speed. it's a asus p8z68-m pro MB, Heres the output of sensors: acpitz-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1:+27.8°C (crit = +99.0°C) temp2:+29.8°C

Re: TRIM support with XFS

2013-06-29 Thread John Andreasson
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Post the XFS mount entry(s) in dmesg and any errors. [2.119489] SGI XFS with ACLs, security attributes, realtime, large block/inode numbers, no debug enabled [2.119716] SGI XFS Quota Management subsystem [2.120753] XFS (sda2): Mo

Re: Switching to 64 bit

2013-06-29 Thread Gary Dale
On 29/06/13 07:00 PM, Doug wrote: On 06/29/2013 06:38 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: On 06/29/2013 02:05 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 6/28/2013 2:49 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: For now I will run regular 32-bit Sid..realizing I am wasting the opportunity to utilize more memory and perhaps faster op

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-29 Thread Jeff Bauer
My progression/path: JWM/ROX-filer > OpenBox/PYpanel > straight up ratpoison. Nowadays I'm a hamstrung cripple if forced to use an OS with a DE/WM that's heavily reliant on the dreaded rodent. One can trick out OpenBox pretty seriously if you want to spend the time with configurations, but

Re: Switching to 64 bit

2013-06-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 6/29/2013 6:00 PM, Doug wrote: > So why have we been > bamboozled into running 64 bits if there is no advantage? There are many reasons. One is priming the pump. At some point in the future applications are predicted to become so content rich (bloated) that individual application processes w

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-29 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:26:53PM -0800, Greg Madden wrote: > On Friday 28 June 2013 12:08:42 you wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 07:35:24PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > .snip > > > > > There's nothing wrong with running an outdated Debian, > > > > Until the secur

Re: the continuing disappointment of Debian 7

2013-06-29 Thread Kevin Ross
On 06/29/2013 03:07 PM, Jeff Shearer wrote: Iceweasel crashes all the time and cannot play flash What Flash player are you using? If you're using the default Gnash, which is an open source version made by people reverse engineering Adobe's Flash, then that might be the problem. Gnash neve

Re: TRIM support with XFS

2013-06-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 6/29/2013 6:17 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Please keep replies on list. > > On 6/29/2013 3:57 PM, John Andreasson wrote: > >> /dev/disk/by-uuid/---- / xfs >> rw,noatime,attr2,delaylog,noquota 0 0 > > Post the XFS mount entry(s) in dmesg and any errors. > >> Doe

Re: pdf applciation that ACTUALL deletes pages

2013-06-29 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 06/29/2013 06:59 PM, Jeff Shearer wrote: > > Can someone direct me to an application that will let me delete pages > and then save the resulting file fo Debian 7? > pdftk should be able to do that. -- You're rewriting parts of Quake in *Python*? MUAHAHAHA Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kali

Re: the continuing disappointment of Debian 7

2013-06-29 Thread José Silva
On 29/06/13 23:18, Stephen Powell wrote: On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 18:07:14 -0400 (EDT), Jeff Shearer wrote: Iceweasel crashes all the time and cannot play flash I'm sorry things aren't working well for you, but that has not been my experience. I'm running jessie now, but I was running wheezy for

Re: TRIM support with XFS

2013-06-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Please keep replies on list. On 6/29/2013 3:57 PM, John Andreasson wrote: > /dev/disk/by-uuid/---- / xfs > rw,noatime,attr2,delaylog,noquota 0 0 Post the XFS mount entry(s) in dmesg and any errors. > Doesn't look promising. The mount options in /etc/fstab is > de

Re: "Operation not permitted" error when using su

2013-06-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 18:39:32 -0400 (EDT), Chris Bannister wrote: > > Is there a difference if you " su - barney" ? No, there is no difference. I still get the same error. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.or

Re: Switching to 64 bit

2013-06-29 Thread Doug
On 06/29/2013 06:38 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: > On 06/29/2013 02:05 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> On 6/28/2013 2:49 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: >> >>> For now I will run regular 32-bit Sid..realizing I am wasting >>> the opportunity to utilize more memory and perhaps faster operations. >> >> Your 32

Re: the continuing disappointment of Debian 7

2013-06-29 Thread Carl Fink
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 06:07:14PM -0400, Jeff Shearer wrote: > Iceweasel crashes all the time and cannot play flash No it doesn't. Yes it can. Maybe you could post your architecture and package versions? -- Carl Fink nitpick...@nitpicking.com Read my blog at blog.ni

Re: "Operation not permitted" error when using su

2013-06-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 04:00:41PM -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > I have discovered a problem recently when using su to switch to a user > other than root on a Gnome Terminal session. Let's say I login to the > graphical desktop using a userid of "fred". When I launch a Gnome > Terminal session,

Re: Switching to 64 bit

2013-06-29 Thread Frank McCormick
On 06/29/2013 02:05 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 6/28/2013 2:49 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: For now I will run regular 32-bit Sid..realizing I am wasting the opportunity to utilize more memory and perhaps faster operations. Your 32 bit PAE Sid kernel can address 64GB. Since your new machine wi

Re: Bitcoin donation

2013-06-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 09:56:04PM +0200, Laszlo Furesz wrote: > To whom it may concern, > > Firstly, I would like to thank you for your work. > > I was wondering if you considered accepting Bitcoin donations? > > I would definitely donate some if you had a bitcoin address and I think > many oth

Re: the continuing disappointment of Debian 7

2013-06-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 18:07:14 -0400 (EDT), Jeff Shearer wrote: > > Iceweasel crashes all the time and cannot play flash I'm sorry things aren't working well for you, but that has not been my experience. I'm running jessie now, but I was running wheezy for a long time, and your experience does not

Re: pdf applciation that ACTUALL deletes pages

2013-06-29 Thread Jochen Spieker
Jeff Shearer: > > I have installed pdfshuffler, pdfchain, and pdfmod but cannot find one that > works to delete pages, and here is the tricky part, save the result error ot > at least give me a legible error message. > Can someone direct me to an application that will let me delete pages and >

the continuing disappointment of Debian 7

2013-06-29 Thread Jeff Shearer
Iceweasel crashes all the time and cannot play flash � � �

pdf applciation that ACTUALL deletes pages

2013-06-29 Thread Jeff Shearer
Hi, I have installed pdfshuffler, pdfchain, and pdfmod but cannot find one that works to delete pages, and here is the tricky part, save the result error ot at least give me a legible error message. Can someone direct me to an application that will let me delete pages and then save the result

Re: TRIM support with XFS

2013-06-29 Thread John Andreasson
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Mount is miserly on the info it gives you. Post the output of > ~$ cat /proc/mounts > rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0 proc /proc proc rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0 udev /dev devtmpfs rw,rel

Re: Repository pinning?

2013-06-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 29 iun 13, 21:42:10, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Hello folks, > > I want to add a repository to debian, exactly the kali repository, because it > has packets, which are not in debian repo. > > But I do not want automatically debian packets from the kali repo. > Can I use pinning for a specia

Re: "Operation not permitted" error when using su

2013-06-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:26:56 -0400 (EDT), David Guntner wrote: > > No, it won't output a message when you set it y or n. Not sure I > understand why vi is doing something that needs a messages channel > turned on. And it's kind of hard to guess without seeing actual output. :-) > > You said you

Re: TRIM support with XFS

2013-06-29 Thread green
John Andreasson wrote at 2013-06-29 13:46 -0500: > So my question is: Does TRIM work with XFS in Wheezy and what should I do > to use it? See . Add the 'discard' mount option in /etc/fstab. I suppose, to trim all old eraseable blocks, you should also remo

Re: "Operation not permitted" error when using su

2013-06-29 Thread David Guntner
Stephen Powell grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:07:54 -0400 (EDT), David Guntner wrote: >> >> Stephen Powell grabbed a keyboard and wrote: >>> >>>Error: messages not turned on: /dev/pts/0: Operation not permitted >>> >>> (vi is actually nvi on my system.) >>> This problem

Re: TRIM support with XFS

2013-06-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 6/29/2013 1:46 PM, John Andreasson wrote: > Hello. > > I have a question about XFS and TRIM on SSD. I'm unable to determine if I > can use it in Debian 7.1. I have searched the documentation and found > positive information on ext4, but not on XFS. > > Just to test I installed Wheezy on a Thin

Re: "Operation not permitted" error when using su

2013-06-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:07:54 -0400 (EDT), David Guntner wrote: > > Stephen Powell grabbed a keyboard and wrote: >> >>Error: messages not turned on: /dev/pts/0: Operation not permitted >> >> (vi is actually nvi on my system.) >> This problem does not occur in a virtual terminal (vt1-vt6). It

Bitcoin donation

2013-06-29 Thread Laszlo Furesz
To whom it may concern, Firstly, I would like to thank you for your work. I was wondering if you considered accepting Bitcoin donations? I would definitely donate some if you had a bitcoin address and I think many others would. All the best, Laszlo Furesz

Re: "Operation not permitted" error when using su

2013-06-29 Thread David Guntner
Stephen Powell grabbed a keyboard and wrote: >Error: messages not turned on: /dev/pts/0: Operation not permitted > > (vi is actually nvi on my system.) > This problem does not occur in a virtual terminal (vt1-vt6). It also > does not occur if I switch to root, instead of a non-root user. > >

"Operation not permitted" error when using su

2013-06-29 Thread Stephen Powell
I have discovered a problem recently when using su to switch to a user other than root on a Gnome Terminal session. Let's say I login to the graphical desktop using a userid of "fred". When I launch a Gnome Terminal session, I'm automatically logged in as "fred". Now, let's suppose I switch to u

Repository pinning?

2013-06-29 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hello folks, I want to add a repository to debian, exactly the kali repository, because it has packets, which are not in debian repo. But I do not want automatically debian packets from the kali repo. Can I use pinning for a special entry in sources.list so it does only install those packages,

Re: TRIM support with XFS

2013-06-29 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
No... what you mean is alignment... and that is not only dependant on the partitions..but every block layer from the file system to the physical medium. TRIM depends on support from all the layers as well... from the fs to the physical medium, including LVM, RAID or dmcrypt. Chris. "Hans-J.

Re: TRIM support with XFS

2013-06-29 Thread John Andreasson
On Saturday, June 29, 2013, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > > as far as I know, the partitions will be correct created by debian. > Trimmings > is not a problem of the filesystem, but of partitioning. So, you can either > partitition with debian (whhezy or higher), or you can also use a > live-file cd > l

Re: How do I pad files in Linux?

2013-06-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 14:23:51 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 6/29/2013 12:19 PM, Tixy wrote: >> >> truncate -s %80 FILENAME >> >> Will pad with zero's to round size up to a multiple of 80. > > That'll teach me to read all posts before replying. Question: > > Does this append ASCII zeros

Re: TRIM support with XFS

2013-06-29 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
> So my question is: Does TRIM work with XFS in Wheezy and what should I do > to use it? > > John Hi John, as far as I know, the partitions will be correct created by debian. Trimmings is not a problem of the filesystem, but of partitioning. So, you can either partitition with debian (whhezy

TRIM support with XFS

2013-06-29 Thread John Andreasson
Hello. I have a question about XFS and TRIM on SSD. I'm unable to determine if I can use it in Debian 7.1. I have searched the documentation and found positive information on ext4, but not on XFS. Just to test I installed Wheezy on a ThinkPad equipped with an SSD and picked XFS as the root file s

Re: KDE digital clock NTP server time adjust.

2013-06-29 Thread Bob Proulx
Franco Martelli wrote: > I installed both ntpdate and rdate packages but automatic date and > time update of KDE digital clock on the desktop doesn't work. > Do I need package like kdesudo in order to make things working? No. Your choice of packages is unfortunate. A mistake. Instead install 'n

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-29 Thread Gary Dale
On 29/06/13 01:49 PM, To Ro wrote: >From my own limited experience with Gnome 3, I don't see what the big fuss is about. I thought it generally operated pretty much like Gnome 2 except it was missing some pieces that will probably show up eventually, as they did when KDE went

Re: How do I pad files in Linux?

2013-06-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 6/29/2013 12:19 PM, Tixy wrote: > On Sat, 2013-06-29 at 12:34 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: >> I have a need to pad a binary file with some character >> (probably a null character) so that its total length >> is a multiple of some number. For example, I have a file >> called kernel.debian, whose

Re: How do I pad files in Linux?

2013-06-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 6/29/2013 11:34 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > I have a need to pad a binary file with some character > (probably a null character) so that its total length > is a multiple of some number. For example, I have a file > called kernel.debian, whose size is 6319616 bytes. I need > to pad it with null

Re: How do I pad files in Linux? (SOLVED)

2013-06-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 13:19:22 -0400 (EDT), Tixy wrote: > > On Sat, 2013-06-29 at 12:34 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> I have a need to pad a binary file with some character >> (probably a null character) so that its total length >> is a multiple of some number. For example, I have a file >> c

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-29 Thread To Ro
> Or, abandon the desktop environment all together, and just go with a > window manager, a panel and Debian-menu (I use Openbox and LXPanel). > > Where is Debian-menu? x@y:~$ apt-cache search debian-menu x@y:~$ apt-cache search debian | grep menu education-menus - Debian Edu menu reorganization m

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-29 Thread To Ro
> From my own limited experience with Gnome 3, I don't see what the big fuss > is about. I thought it generally operated pretty much like Gnome 2 except > it was missing some pieces that will probably show up eventually, as they > did when KDE went from 3 to 4. > > The main thing I believe is that

Re: KDE digital clock NTP server time adjust.

2013-06-29 Thread Erwan David
Le 29/06/2013 15:51, Franco Martelli a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I,m on Wheezy amd64 port. I installed both ntpdate and rdate packages but automatic date and time update of KDE digital clock on the desktop doesn't work. Do I need package like kdesudo in order to make

Re: How do I pad files in Linux?

2013-06-29 Thread Tixy
On Sat, 2013-06-29 at 12:34 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > I have a need to pad a binary file with some character > (probably a null character) so that its total length > is a multiple of some number. For example, I have a file > called kernel.debian, whose size is 6319616 bytes. I need > to pad

How do I pad files in Linux?

2013-06-29 Thread Stephen Powell
I have a need to pad a binary file with some character (probably a null character) so that its total length is a multiple of some number. For example, I have a file called kernel.debian, whose size is 6319616 bytes. I need to pad it with nulls until its length is a multiple of 80. The next higher

Re: Is there a replacement for Kompozer in debian?

2013-06-29 Thread Miles Fidelman
Miles Fidelman wrote: John W. Foster wrote: I've used Kompozer for debian for several years as a rough out system for web development. It is not available in Wheezy as far as I can tell using the search feature of synaptic, other than the older Squeeze version. Is there a differently named versi

Re: Is there a replacement for Kompozer in debian?

2013-06-29 Thread Miles Fidelman
John W. Foster wrote: I've used Kompozer for debian for several years as a rough out system for web development. It is not available in Wheezy as far as I can tell using the search feature of synaptic, other than the older Squeeze version. Is there a differently named version for Debian or do we

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 09:12:47 -0500 "John W. Foster" wrote: Hello John, >Well it seems I'm not alone in my dislike of the 'features' installed in >this update. Thanks to a couple of you I at least now have an active If you don't want to be surprised by what happens when your WM/DE of choice goes

Is there a replacement for Kompozer in debian?

2013-06-29 Thread John W. Foster
I've used Kompozer for debian for several years as a rough out system for web development. It is not available in Wheezy as far as I can tell using the search feature of synaptic, other than the older Squeeze version. Is there a differently named version for Debian or do we have to go 'roll our own

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-29 Thread John W. Foster
On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 18:28 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:06:01 -0400 > "Jeff Shearer" wrote: > > Hello Jeff, > > >launches fine but not KDE. So far no one has responded to my pleas for > >help to get KDE up and running. > > Select it at the login screen. >

KDE digital clock NTP server time adjust.

2013-06-29 Thread Franco Martelli
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I,m on Wheezy amd64 port. I installed both ntpdate and rdate packages but automatic date and time update of KDE digital clock on the desktop doesn't work. Do I need package like kdesudo in order to make things working? Trying with rdate I got: $ rdat