Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-19 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 4/19/2013 9:09 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:31:35PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> Second, your methodology doesn't scale. For large scale operations >> installing new kernel patches every few weeks simply isn't financially >> feasible/responsible. Even a junior adm

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Jude DaShiell
Sorry, wrong list for reply. On Fri, 19 Apr 2013, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > 2013/4/19 Darac Marjal > > > > > That seems correct. Device nodes don't tend to take up any space. Now > > try it again on the filesystem (like I showed you). > > > > > Ok, here follows the "relevant" ouput. > Apart from

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Jude DaShiell
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Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-19 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 4/19/2013 8:59 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I'll accept that you intended to use the phrase in the meaning you suggest, > here, in the spirit of good faith, but I'm sure you are fully aware that > the phrase is more widely known and used in a different way which is > objectionable. It's theref

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 4/19/13, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 4/19/13, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:31:35PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >>> This isn't a manhood measurement contest. >> >> Let's avoid alienating some debian-user readers with such language. > > Oh, c'mon! Grow some ovaries alrea

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > Don't believe opinion as fact just because it's on a server hosted > > by freedesktop.org. Rusty Russel and the FHS is a more > > authoritative (and correct) source, I suggest you read it. > > I never split up / and /usr for the last century or so and they are > all working fine. Wow, your

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 19. April 2013 schrieb Kevin Chadwick: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space > > > on rootfs but can't guess how... > > > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > > > > > regrds > > > /r > > > > > > debian:~# df -h > > > File syste

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 19. April 2013 schrieb Karl E. Jorgensen: > Hi > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:32:45PM +0100, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on > > rootfs but can't guess how... > > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > >

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> That looks like you have to somehow be logged into both hosts and run > nat-traverse on each. But it looks interesting. Firewalls can track and block UDP (create state) even if it is a stateless protocol too, so you may have to have control of the gateways too. -- __

Checking in on the Graduate Education Programs Resource

2013-04-19 Thread Victoria Baker
Hi there, I hope you are well. I am following up with you to see if you had the opportunity to review the resource that I had sent you? Please let me know what you think, I look forward to hearing any feedback that you may have. Thank you, Victoria Baker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-19 Thread alberto fuentes
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:29 PM, alberto fuentes wrote: > Actually I got the idea from filetea [0] > I just checked it out. Its less magical than I thought. It *does* use the server to route all packets :(

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-19 Thread alberto fuentes
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Since alberto said that both A and B know about Server then NAT > traversal shouldn't be needed. > Actually I want to connect from A to B directly, so nat traversal seems nice, but I cant try it right now... when I have the machine back up I

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-19 Thread alberto fuentes
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > alberto fuentes wrote: > > A (me) -> Server (overseas) -> B (arbitrary computer in my city) > > > > To make it a little more clear. Both computer A and B know about Server. > > Right now I use openvpn to bring all the computers together into th

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-19 Thread Soare Catalin
On Apr 19, 2013 8:11 PM, "Hans-J. Ullrich" wrote: > > Whatever I see in all your comments is this: > > Most of the people show a big uptime. 100 days, 400 days, 500 days, even more > than a 1000 days! So many people do this. It proves, how stable a good system > can be and it also shows the great

Re: Three trials installing LILO - was [Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive]

2013-04-19 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.04.2013 23:34, Richard Owlett a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: You will have to give it the OSes you want to use. If you did not specifically add the correct lines, you will not be able to boot the first OS, since LILO have no clue about it's existence. I had un-commente

Re: dpkg

2013-04-19 Thread Pol Hallen
> # apt-get install apt-show-versions > $ apt-show-versions | grep /squeeze-backports > ... > iceweasel/squeeze-backports uptodate 20.0-1~bpo60+1 > ... > > $ apt-show-versions | grep -v -e uptodate > ...useful interesting info... Cheers! thanks :-) Pol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-19 Thread Lars Nooden
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013, green wrote: > Lars Nooden wrote at 2013-04-19 10:35 -0500: > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM, alberto fuentes wrote: > > > A (me) -> Server (overseas) -> B (arbitrary computer in my city) > > > > To make a direct connection between A and B with ssh, you need to have at >

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > Hi, > > > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space > > on rootfs but can't guess how... > > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > > > regrds > > /r > > > > debian:~# df -h > > File system Dim. Usati Dispon. Uso% Montato su > > rootfs

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Raffaele Morelli wrote: > Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > You seem to be using lvm. Can't you shrink another partition to grow root? > > Yes I could... but I have never managed lvm and this is a production > server.. You are using LVM. You have plenty of space. You just need to move it around a

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 01:32:45PM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > Hi, > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on rootfs > but can't guess how... > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > regrds > /r > > debian:~# df -h > File system Dim. Usati Disp

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:53:33AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > > Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > > rootfs 322M 213M 93M 70% / > > > /dev/mapper/debian-root 322M 213M 93M 70% / > > > tmpfs 368M 11M339M 3% /tmp > > > /dev/m

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-19 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Whatever I see in all your comments is this: Most of the people show a big uptime. 100 days, 400 days, 500 days, even more than a 1000 days! So many people do this. It proves, how stable a good system can be and it also shows the great work of the developers. If I compare it to other commerci

Re: Random crashes that won't allow rebooting easily

2013-04-19 Thread Soare Catalin
On Apr 19, 2013 7:43 PM, "Bill Harris" wrote: > > Darac Marjal writes: > > > This looks like it might be > > http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/problem-brcm80211-hangs-2-6-36-0-34-rc6-git3-fc15-x86-64-help-200600731.html . > > Try a newer kernel, if you can (though I don't see evidence in that >

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-19 Thread Bob Proulx
green wrote: > Lars Nooden wrote: > > alberto fuentes wrote: > > > A (me) -> Server (overseas) -> B (arbitrary computer in my city) > > > > To make a direct connection between A and B with ssh, you need to have at > > least on of them be publicly available even if the other is blocked behind > >

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > rootfs 322M 213M 93M 70% / > > /dev/mapper/debian-root 322M 213M 93M 70% / > > tmpfs 368M 11M339M 3% /tmp > > /dev/mapper/debian-tmp 368M 11M339M 3% /tmp > > Note: something odd

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-19 Thread green
Lars Nooden wrote at 2013-04-19 10:35 -0500: > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM, alberto fuentes wrote: > > A (me) -> Server (overseas) -> B (arbitrary computer in my city) > > To make a direct connection between A and B with ssh, you need to have at > least on of them be publicly available even

Re: dpkg

2013-04-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I *think* all backports packages have a version with 'bpo' in the version > string. Therefore, the following should be close to correct (if I'm right, > there will be no omissions, but there may be false positives): > > $ COLUMNS=255 dpkg -l | tail -n +6 | awk '{if ($

Re: Random crashes that won't allow rebooting easily

2013-04-19 Thread Bill Harris
Darac Marjal writes: > This looks like it might be > http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/problem-brcm80211-hangs-2-6-36-0-34-rc6-git3-fc15-x86-64-help-200600731.html. > Try a newer kernel, if you can (though I don't see evidence in that > thread that the change was incorporated into the mainstream

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Bob Proulx
basti wrote: > You can also use "ncdu". > Man Page says: > > ncdu (NCurses Disk Usage) is a curses-based version of the well-known > 'du', and provides a fast way to see what directories are using your > disk space. Cool! I hadn't seen that before. Checking it out now. I have been recommending

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-19 Thread Bob Proulx
alberto fuentes wrote: > A (me) -> Server (overseas) -> B (arbitrary computer in my city) > > To make it a little more clear. Both computer A and B know about Server. > Right now I use openvpn to bring all the computers together into the same > network. But it seems too much overhead being both co

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-19 Thread Lars Nooden
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM, alberto fuentes wrote: > A (me) -> Server (overseas) -> B (arbitrary computer in my city) To make a direct connection between A and B with ssh, you need to have at least on of them be publicly available even if the other is blocked behind a firewall. Depending

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-19 Thread alberto fuentes
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM, alberto fuentes wrote: > A (me) -> Server (overseas) -> B (arbitrary computer in my city) > To make it a little more clear. Both computer A and B know about Server. Right now I use openvpn to bring all the computers together into the same network. But it seems to

Re: dpkg

2013-04-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I *think* all backports packages have a version with 'bpo' in the version string. Therefore, the following should be close to correct (if I'm right, there will be no omissions, but there may be false positives): $ COLUMNS=255 dpkg -l | tail -n +6 | awk '{if ($3~/bpo/) print $2 }' -- To UNSU

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-19 Thread alberto fuentes
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > I guess the OP means "packets" instead of "packages". Some languages > have the same word for "packet" and "package". However I cannot figure > out clearly what he is asking for either. > > Yes. I never noticed packages and packets are the

Re: Random crashes that won't allow rebooting easily

2013-04-19 Thread Dawid Toton
On 04/18/2013 07:41 AM, Bill Harris wrote: I'm running an up-to-date Debian Squeeze 64-bit on a laptop. It's usually been stable, as I might expect from Debian Stable. From time to time, though, it freezes at seemingly random times. I notice it mostly when I'm typing and the keyboard stops res

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> I haven't actually looked at your layout but copy something like /opt > to /usr (where it should be anyway in my opinion) and bind mount it. Sorry move it! -- ___ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write progra

Re: dpkg

2013-04-19 Thread Jaikumar Sharma
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Pol Hallen wrote: > On my client debian (stable release) in the sources.list I've also > debian-backports. > Now I need show only installed packages from that repository. What do you mean by *show_only_installed_packages* ? You may probably mean and want to know wh

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> >> Ok, here follows the "relevant" ouput. > >> Apart from spf13 vim environment, that I can remove for root user, I guess > >> my only choice would be a pruned custom kernel... am I wrong? > >> > > > > You seem to be using lvm. Can't you shrink another partition to grow root? > > > Yes I co

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:31:35PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Second, your methodology doesn't scale. For large scale operations > installing new kernel patches every few weeks simply isn't financially > feasible/responsible. Even a junior admin's salary is better spent on > things other than

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 04:57:50AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > You obviously misread my statement, apparently because your mind is in > the gutter. It had nothing to do with male sexual organ size, as you > have obviously and incorrectly assumed. If your beef was instead > strictly with my use

Re: Random crashes that won't allow rebooting easily

2013-04-19 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 02:32:08PM +0100, Bill Harris wrote: > Bill Harris writes: > > > Thanks for your quick response. The laptop is currently crashed, and so > > I'll check logs and more later. I discovered uprecords a while back, and > > I booted into W7 and launched IE last night, and

dpkg

2013-04-19 Thread Pol Hallen
Hi folks! On my client debian (stable release) in the sources.list I've also debian- backports. Now I need show only installed packages from that repository. I already check dpkg but I didn't find any options. Any idea? thanks! Pol

Re: Random crashes that won't allow rebooting easily

2013-04-19 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 06:32:08AM -0700, Bill Harris wrote: > Bill Harris writes: > > > Thanks for your quick response. The laptop is currently crashed, and so > > I'll check logs and more later. I discovered uprecords a while back, and > > I booted into W7 and launched IE last night, and the

Re: Random crashes that won't allow rebooting easily

2013-04-19 Thread Bill Harris
Bill Harris writes: > Thanks for your quick response. The laptop is currently crashed, and so > I'll check logs and more later. I discovered uprecords a while back, and I booted into W7 and launched IE last night, and then I shut down again. Then I booted Debian. This time it worked, but I ha

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2013/4/19 Karl E. Jorgensen > Hi > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:32:45PM +0100, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on > rootfs but > > can't guess how... > > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > > > regrds > > /r > > > >

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:32:45PM +0100, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > Hi, > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on rootfs > but > can't guess how... > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > regrds > /r > > debian:~# df -h > File system Dim. Usa

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2013/4/19 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI > On Sex, 19 Abr 2013, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > >> Ok, here follows the "relevant" ouput. >> Apart from spf13 vim environment, that I can remove for root user, I guess >> my only choice would be a pruned custom kernel... am I wrong? >> > > You seem to be using lvm.

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello, Raffaele Morelli a écrit : > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on rootfs > but can't guess how... > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > debian:~# df -h > File system Dim. Usati Dispon. Uso% Montato su > rootfs 322M 21

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Sex, 19 Abr 2013, Raffaele Morelli wrote: Ok, here follows the "relevant" ouput. Apart from spf13 vim environment, that I can remove for root user, I guess my only choice would be a pruned custom kernel... am I wrong? You seem to be using lvm. Can't you shrink another partition to grow root?

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2013/4/19 Darac Marjal > > That seems correct. Device nodes don't tend to take up any space. Now > try it again on the filesystem (like I showed you). > > Ok, here follows the "relevant" ouput. Apart from spf13 vim environment, that I can remove for root user, I guess my only choice would be a pr

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 04/19/2013 01:32 PM, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > Hi, > > I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on > rootfs but can't guess how... > Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > regrds > /r > > debian:~# df -h > File system Dim. Usati Dispon. Uso% Montato s

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread basti
You can also use "ncdu". Man Page says: ncdu (NCurses Disk Usage) is a curses-based version of the well-known 'du', and provides a fast way to see what directories are using your disk space. Am 19.04.2013 13:55, schrieb Raffaele Morelli: > 2013/4/19 Darac Marjal > >> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 01

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 01:55:06PM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote: >2013/4/19 Darac Marjal <[1]mailingl...@darac.org.uk> > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 01:32:45PM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > � �Hi, > > � �I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space >

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2013/4/19 Darac Marjal > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 01:32:45PM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > >Hi, > >I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on > >rootfs but can't guess how... > >Here follows the filesystem, any hints? > > You have 213Mb in your root fil

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 01:32:45PM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote: >Hi, >I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on >rootfs but can't guess how... >Here follows the filesystem, any hints? You have 213Mb in your root file system, that seems fairly small to m

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-19 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello, Bob Proulx a écrit : > > You first mentioned connecting to a server so I guessed ssh. That was > apparently not what you were asking about. Now you mention packages. > I could guess that you want to set up an apt proxy of some sort. Is > that what you are asking about? A way to set up

rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Raffaele Morelli
Hi, I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on rootfs but can't guess how... Here follows the filesystem, any hints? regrds /r debian:~# df -h File system Dim. Usati Dispon. Uso% Montato su rootfs 322M 213M 93M 70% / udev

Re: When to file a bug report? - Re: prettify audacious? - sid, xfce desktop

2013-04-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 4/19/13, Andreas Rönnquist wrote: > On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 17:39:20 +1000, > Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>So, the default install of audacious (sid) appears to install 7 skins. >>Yet, in the View->Interface menu, there are only two options. > > You don't see two skins, but you see two skin "interfaces

Re: When to file a bug report? - Re: prettify audacious? - sid, xfce desktop

2013-04-19 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 17:39:20 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: -- 8< --- > >So, the default install of audacious (sid) appears to install 7 skins. > >Yet, in the View->Interface menu, there are only two options. > >At this point, is there any reason I should not

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 4/19/13, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:31:35PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> This isn't a manhood measurement contest. > > Let's avoid alienating some debian-user readers with such language. Oh, c'mon! Grow some ovaries already... :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debi

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-19 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 4/19/2013 1:56 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:31:35PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> This isn't a manhood measurement contest. > > Let's avoid alienating some debian-user readers with such language. Instead let's get you straightened out. You obviously misread my sta

Wheezy release date: 5 May

2013-04-19 Thread Tony van der Hoff
I see from debian-devel-announce that the release date is finally fixed: From: Neil McGovern To: debian-devel-announce-AT-lists.debian.org Subject:FINAL release update Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 15:22:21 +0100 Message-ID: <20130418142221.go

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> The security related flaws are typically in > subsystems that are not part of a minimalist kernel. A reboot is an attackers best friend and potentially an attackers enemy too. However whilst your practice is right. I hope you are reviewing all bugs as the kernel devs simply label them as bugs

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-19 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer
Am 18.04.2013 um 20:33 schrieb Bob Proulx: Kevin Chadwick wrote: Well I wouldn't go that far but I have taken the insert of a matchbox cut a slot in it and stuck it over the power button so that when reaching round the back there is no way of holding it down by accident. Protecting the pow

Re: very slow copy on mount of WindowsXP shares - was Re: copy onto cifs-utils samba mount maxes out at 100KiB/s on 100Mib/s eth link

2013-04-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 4/15/13, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 4/15/13, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> Again, here's my command (all one line): >> $ sudo mount -t cifs -o >> file_mode=0666,dir_mode=0777,setuids,credentials=mycreds >> //server.ip.address/git /x >> >> When I copy files from the /x/ mount to the /x/ mount, or

When to file a bug report? - Re: prettify audacious? - sid, xfce desktop

2013-04-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
This is a question I've often wondered about - what is a reasonable process for filing a bug report? I've assumed that a dip in the waters of debian-user is a good first start. Any recommendations? For example: On 4/14/13, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 4/14/13, Eike Lantzsch wrote: >> On Sunday