Re: ? Debian on dual-socket Xeon server hardware

Bob Proulx wrote: Debian is a *great* OS to run on those machines. I run Debian on many different racked production servers. In particular the advantage is that Debian Stable is production stable with security upgrades for about two years. That is a perfect time span for me personally for prod

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On 3/1/13 9:41 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Munich in 2003 and Freiburg in 2007. > > Comment: OpenOffice's Tale of Two Cities > http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Comment-OpenOffice-s-Tale-of-Two-Cities-1760502.html > > Munich's program was successful and expanded. Freiburg's failed > and they re

Re: I wish to advocate linux

Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Morel Bérenger wrote: > > > Cities that switched from Microsoft to Linux, for their departments, > > > switched back to Windows. > > > > Not all. IIRC I've heard of Zurich, recently, said anew that it is > > interesting to switch to linux because very, very cheaper. > > > >

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

David Guntner wrote: > Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple. > ... > # Duplicate Suppression. > :0Whc: $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache.lock > | $FORMAIL -D 8192 $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache > > # Take out the Trash. > :0 a: > /dev/null > > That's all there is to it. The formail program is us

Re: Keyboard remapping

On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 12:09:53PM +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:56:29AM +0100, Paul Seyfert wrote: > > I only know of thinkpads having ctrl and fn swapped wrt. other vendors. > > As explained these are hard/impossible to swap in software which is why > > the bios of thin

Re: ? Debian on dual-socket Xeon server hardware

zxcvbob wrote: > Geeks.com has refurbished 1U mini rack-mount servers, about 5 years > old, for cheap enough that I want to get one to play with. Two > 4-core Xeon processors (do not support hyperthreading) and either > 4GB or 8GB of RAM, a small hard drive, RAID controller, no sound, > and very l

? Debian on dual-socket Xeon server hardware

Geeks.com has refurbished 1U mini rack-mount servers, about 5 years old, for cheap enough that I want to get one to play with. Two 4-core Xeon processors (do not support hyperthreading) and either 4GB or 8GB of RAM, a small hard drive, RAID controller, no sound, and very low-end integrated gra

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:08:58 -0500 Miles Fidelman wrote: > Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > It's a car punch machine: > > > > Car punch? > http://www.forkparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/E-Honda-Car-Punch.jpg > Heh, I needed that. Thanks. Cybe R. Wi

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On Thu, 2013-02-28 at 10:27 +0100, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: > > Cities that switched from Microsoft to Linux, for their departments, > > switched back to Windows. > > Not all. IIRC I've heard of Zurich, recently, said anew that it is > interesting to switch to linux because very, very cheaper. > >

Re: Avoiding restricted boot hardware

On 02/28/13 08:58, Lars Noodén wrote: Can anyone recommend brands or models of desktop (dinosaur) hardware that is currently safe for Debian? I have an Intel DQ67SW motherboard with an Intel i7-2600S processor, Corsair CMV8GX3M2A1333C9 memory (8 GB DDR3 1333 MHz dual channel), and Intel 60 G

Re: Keyboard remapping

On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 03:38:23AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2013-03-01 12:07:07 +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 07:36:24PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > /lib/udev/keymap is probably better, though it is buggy. > > > > Ok, so I haven't made any changes in the

Re: Keyboard remapping

On 2013-03-01 12:07:07 +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 07:36:24PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > /lib/udev/keymap is probably better, though it is buggy. > > Ok, so I haven't made any changes in there yet. > > I've ran showkeys and found that the fn key has a key code.

Re: Adobe Reader 9.5.4 on 64 bit Linux - SOLVED

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:20:49PM +, Claudius Hubig wrote: > Dear Lisi, > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 28 February 2013 11:00:36 Brian wrote: > > > You could do but try getting ia32-libs-gtk before you go down that route. > > > > Brilliant! Thank you, Brian (et al of course). I now

Re: Keyboard remapping

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:56:29AM +0100, Paul Seyfert wrote: > I only know of thinkpads having ctrl and fn swapped wrt. other vendors. > As explained these are hard/impossible to swap in software which is why > the bios of thinkpads offer the possibility to do this. > > Therefore I recommend, loo

Re: Problems with apt-get

On 02/27/2013 10:14 PM, Henson Sturgill wrote: Is anyone else getting GPG signature errors when updating from ftp.us.debian.org tonight?** Yes! http://ftp.us.debian.org address not found On Wed, Feb 27, 20

Re: Keyboard remapping

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 07:36:24PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > /lib/udev/keymap is probably better, though it is buggy. Ok, so I haven't made any changes in there yet. I've ran showkeys and found that the fn key has a key code. However, when I do fn+j for example only the fn key code is no

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 19:31:03 Richard Owlett wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote: as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to Debian(tm?), Why is your seniority relevant? Just trying to convey that I've enough re

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

Cybe R. Wizard wrote: It's a car punch machine: Car punch? http://www.forkparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/E-Honda-Car-Punch.jpg -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

On Thursday 28 February 2013 19:31:03 Richard Owlett wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote: > >> as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to > >> Debian(tm?), > > > > Why is your seniority relevant? > > Just trying to convey that I've enough

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:58:56 -0600 "Cybe R. Wizard" wrote: > It's a car punch machine: ^ d > ...caRd punch machine. Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes "The Bar

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:09:46 -0500 Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> Lisi Reisz wrote: > >>> On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote: > as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to > Debian(tm?), > >>> > >>> Why is your sen

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

Richard Owlett wrote: Nope ;) It was the standard IBM keypunch. I spent many hours muttering at it in 1961. Ok... definitely a bit before my time. Used keypunches my freshman year at college (1971) - in a course that took us from IBM 360 batch, to 360/TSO, to Multics - but after that, punc

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 02/28/13 13:09, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote: as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to Debian(tm?), Why is your seniority relevant? Just tryin

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

On 02/28/13 13:09, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote: as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to Debian(tm?), Why is your seniority relevant? Just trying to convey that I've e

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote: as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to Debian(tm?), Why is your seniority relevant? Just trying to convey that I've enough real-world experience to have a val

Re: I wish to advocate linux

Tom H wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Tom H wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Come to think of it, that's a good point - and even relevant to Linux advocacy. I don't think I've ever seen a live CD for either Windows or MacOS (well, th

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote: as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to Debian(tm?), Why is your seniority relevant? Just trying to convey that I've enough real-world experience to have a valid

Re: I wish to advocate linux --pclos from flash

On 02/28/2013 02:12 PM, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 18:12:14 Tom H wrote: Linux isn't as myopic as people are claiming in this thread. Ubuntu points users to this page to create a flash installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/u

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On 02/28/2013 02:12 PM, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 18:12:14 Tom H wrote: Linux isn't as myopic as people are claiming in this thread. Ubuntu points users to this page to create a flash installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/u

Re: tar -> unresponsive machine

Darac Marjal wrote at 2013-02-28 10:50 -0600: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:38:23AM -0500, m...@neidorff.com wrote: > > Yes. You may want to change the "nice" level of the tar command so that > > it doesn't take up so much disk time. > > "nice tar" won't actually change how heavily tar uses the di

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote: as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to Debian(tm?), Why is your seniority relevant? Just trying to convey that I've enough real-world experience to have a valid point of reference without heavy handily

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 28 February 2013 18:12:14 Tom H wrote: >> >> Linux isn't as myopic as people are claiming in this thread. >> >> Ubuntu points users to this page to create a flash installer: >> >> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On 02/28/2013 01:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 18:12:14 Tom H wrote: Linux isn't as myopic as people are claiming in this thread. Ubuntu points users to this page to create a flash installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ And Fedor

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote: > as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to > Debian(tm?), Why is your seniority relevant? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On Thursday 28 February 2013 18:12:14 Tom H wrote: > Linux isn't as myopic as people are claiming in this thread. > > Ubuntu points users to this page to create a flash installer: > > http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ > > And Fedora points users to a Windows versio

Re: tar -> unresponsive machine

Dear Claudius, On 2013-02-28 16:39:23 +, Claudius Hubig wrote: > Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > the whole machine becomes unresponsive, e.g. several dozens of seconds > > to do some operation (e.g. starting an xterm, or making Firefox react)? > > Depending on the IO priority of the tar command (p

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Miles Fidelman >> wrote: >>> >>> Come to think of it, that's a good point - and even relevant to Linux >>> advocacy. I don't think I've ever seen a live CD for either Windows or >>> MacOS (we

Re: Avoiding restricted boot hardware

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Dan Hitt wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Lars Noodén wrote: >> >> I'm reading that the restricted boot problems are far from solved and >> that some of the early hardware [1] in particular objects to Linux. Can >> anyone recommend brands or models of de

Re: Avoiding restricted boot hardware

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Lars Noodén wrote: > I'm reading that the restricted boot problems are far from solved and > that some of the early hardware [1] in particular objects to Linux. Can > anyone recommend brands or models of desktop (dinosaur) hardware that is > currently safe for

Re: Keyboard remapping

On 2013-02-28 14:21:30 +, Harvey Kelly wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-02-28 at 09:09 +, Daniel Dalton wrote: > > Is it possible to make the fn key act as a control key inside of linux? > > (I'd like to keep the functions of the fn key combinations if > > possible). > > Are the keys recognised? Ha

Re: tar -> unresponsive machine

Thanks to all who replied. To answer some questions, it is a spinning hard drive, and here's mount information: /dev/disk/by-uuid/e3631277-c4d0-460e-a2a3-6de16013e050 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,barrier=1,data=ordered) and there was plenty of free RAM as usual (the machine has

Re: Root shell bug on Debian wheezy

frank.jan...@actrix.co.nz, 28.02.2013: > Greetings, > > A root shell sometimes appears during the login sequence on a Debian > Wheezy system servicing thin clients. The root shell appears after one > enters a login and a password then presses random keys until a box appears > with the root prompt

Re: Flash and Firefox on Squeeze

On 2013-02-27, Marc Shapiro wrote: > I am running Squeeze on an AMD64 system. > > /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/. > in /etc/alternatives I have the soft link flash-mozilla.so pointing to: /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so It was all done automagically when i installed flashplu

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Brian wrote: >> On Thu 28 Feb 2013 at 09:36:29 +, Joe wrote: >>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:04:04 -0500 >>> Mark Filipak wrote: Let me give you an example of the kind of insensitivity (or myopic stupidity) that seems to be t

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Brian wrote: > On Thu 28 Feb 2013 at 09:36:29 +, Joe wrote: >> On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:04:04 -0500 >> Mark Filipak wrote: >>> >>> Let me give you an example of the kind of insensitivity (or myopic >>> stupidity) that seems to be the hallmark of the Linux commun

Re: I wish to advocate linux

Tom H wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: So here we have it. You are trying to run a Linux distribution from USB stick. Somehing very exotic, not for beginers. Now I dare you to prove that it is easier (or even possible) to do this wi

Re: I wish to advocate linux

Judging by some reviews I find online, a goodly number of radio amateurs seem capable of breaking an anvil with a rubber mallet. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.

Re: Debian 7 on Lenovo S10-2?

> Before I wipe my HD, has anyone installed Debian 7 on a Lenovo S10-2? Probably the hardware of your machine doesn't run Gnome 3 well, if that happens, i suggest LXDE/openbox. You can do something like that if you like: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MAPXOUUixM4/T62khmvQaTI/AG8/Tq8taBIuXuI/s

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: >> >> So here we have it. You are trying to run a Linux distribution from USB >> stick. Somehing very exotic, not for beginers. Now I dare you to prove >> that it is easier (or even possible) to do this with

Re: Iceweasel and chromium stable and secure versions

On 2013-02-28 18:18 +0100, Henry Jensen wrote: > I noticed that chromium got updated to the newest stable and secure > version 25.0.1364.97. Can we expect that Chromium will receive further > updates in the future during the lifetime of Debian 7.0, perhaps as > part of the Update-Repository (forme

Re: Avoiding restricted boot hardware

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Lars Noodén wrote: > I'm reading that the restricted boot problems are far from solved and > that some of the early hardware [1] in particular objects to Linux. Can > anyone recommend brands or models of desktop (dinosaur) hardware that is > currently safe for Deb

Iceweasel and chromium stable and secure versions

Hello, I noticed that chromium got updated to the newest stable and secure version 25.0.1364.97. Can we expect that Chromium will receive further updates in the future during the lifetime of Debian 7.0, perhaps as part of the Update-Repository (formerly known as volatile)? And what about Icewease

Re: I wish to advocate linux

Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 14:21:59 Martin McCormick wrote: In the 35 years I have been involved with modern computing, my experience has been that if you show you are making a good effort to help yourself, people will at least point you at a good reading list and many times,

Re: tar -> unresponsive machine

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 05:27:19PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Is it normal that when using the "tar" command to create a big archive, > the whole machine becomes unresponsive, e.g. several dozens of seconds > to do some operation (e.g. starting an xterm, or making Firefox react)? > > htop sho

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On 28 February 2013 16:30, Richard Owlett wrote: > Harvey Kelly wrote: >> [SNIP] >> Please, for your own sake, go to Linux Mint's site, grab an iso and >> try that installation. 99% of hardware is fully supported with Mint - >> at least try that. If something goes wrong then tell us the specifics.

Avoiding restricted boot hardware

I'm reading that the restricted boot problems are far from solved and that some of the early hardware [1] in particular objects to Linux. Can anyone recommend brands or models of desktop (dinosaur) hardware that is currently safe for Debian? Regards /Lars [1] "As it turned out, almost all of

Re: tar -> unresponsive machine

Dear Vincent, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > the whole machine becomes unresponsive, e.g. several dozens of seconds > to do some operation (e.g. starting an xterm, or making Firefox react)? Depending on the IO priority of the tar command (probably higher if run as root, check with ionice) and the disk

Re: Debian Wheezy and Command-shell Browser Output

Last night, I tried the telnet console and it works on both of the routers in question. You get a Unix shell, the ash, to be specific. If you type the word help you get a list of available commands which is good but I am not sure if this is going to get me in to setting up the router beca

Re: tar -> unresponsive machine

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:38:23AM -0500, m...@neidorff.com wrote: > > Is it normal that when using the "tar" command to create a big archive, > > the whole machine becomes unresponsive, e.g. several dozens of seconds > > to do some operation (e.g. starting an xterm, or making Firefox react)? > > >

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

> I don't know if he was referring to that FAQ or not. > *HOWEVER*, as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to Debian(tm?), > I find the transition unnecessarily annoying. I used http://goodbye-microsoft.org once and it went very smoothly. AFAICT this site doesn't exist any more, but I have th

Re: tar -> unresponsive machine

Vincent Lefevre: > > Is it normal that when using the "tar" command to create a big archive, > the whole machine becomes unresponsive, e.g. several dozens of seconds > to do some operation (e.g. starting an xterm, or making Firefox react)? No. What storage device is tar writing to/reading from? J

Re: tar -> unresponsive machine

> Is it normal that when using the "tar" command to create a big archive, > the whole machine becomes unresponsive, e.g. several dozens of seconds > to do some operation (e.g. starting an xterm, or making Firefox react)? > > htop shows that there is still plenty of memory and atop shows nothing > s

tar -> unresponsive machine

Is it normal that when using the "tar" command to create a big archive, the whole machine becomes unresponsive, e.g. several dozens of seconds to do some operation (e.g. starting an xterm, or making Firefox react)? htop shows that there is still plenty of memory and atop shows nothing special, exc

Re: I wish to advocate linux

Harvey Kelly wrote: [SNIP] Please, for your own sake, go to Linux Mint's site, grab an iso and try that installation. 99% of hardware is fully supported with Mint - at least try that. If something goes wrong then tell us the specifics. http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php As a long time comp

Re: I wish to advocate linux

Am 28.02.2013 um 04:19 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: We're using Linux for different reasons, but comparison to Microsoft and Apple are useless. If I want to do a well defined collection of tasks then a *can* compare the platforms. Remark: I have experience with IBM 360/370+ (DOS, MVS, VM), A

Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

Brian wrote: On Thu 28 Feb 2013 at 09:36:29 +, Joe wrote: On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:04:04 -0500 Mark Filipak wrote: Let me give you an example of the kind of insensitivity (or myopic stupidity) that seems to be the hallmark of the Linux community. In the Debian live page, dd is offered as

Re: fix HD order

> Hi, > i've 4 HD's and 3 distros. > When i load debian squeeze, the sdc hd is slected by grub, but the next > time i load it, the sda hd is selected. > It seems a randomize selecting. > How can i fix this ? UID is used and settings by name don't resolve the > problem. > And yes, i have win7 also o

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On 02/27/2013 08:32 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: I don't think I've ever seen a live CD for either Windows or MacOS (well, the install DVD sort of is, but...). BartPE (Windows). But it's not a full-blown system. Quite minimalistic. And of course, there's the licensing issues -- Kent West<

fix HD order

Hi, i've 4 HD's and 3 distros. When i load debian squeeze, the sdc hd is slected by grub, but the next time i load it, the sda hd is selected. It seems a randomize selecting. How can i fix this ? UID is used and settings by name don't resolve the problem. And yes, i have win7 also on a separat

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On Thursday 28 February 2013 14:21:59 Martin McCormick wrote: > In the 35 years I have been involved with modern > computing, my experience has been that if you show you are > making a good effort to help yourself, people will at least > point you at a good reading list and many times, they do a lo

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On 28 February 2013 14:21, Martin McCormick wrote: > There was once a fellow on a list I belong to whose postings > were one tale of woe after another... Yes, this whole thread/tale is reminding me of when I first installed a Linux system (SuSE 6.2, back in 1999). It took about 5 or 6 hours as I

Re: stun server. (just want to clear my concept)

> stun server is mainly used for Voice and Video due to their UDP in > nature. so that if UDP recipient want to response back with voice or > video packet it returns back to Stun and stun route back to our local > server. but the question is why?. if i have a public Ip which is > published behind "

Re: I wish to advocate linux

There was once a fellow on a list I belong to whose postings were one tale of woe after another which is not that unusual for those of us who tinker and work in technology. The trouble with him was that it was all one big conspiracy against him and he was just going to get out of the hobby of amate

Re: Keyboard remapping

> On Thu, 2013-02-28 at 09:09 +, Daniel Dalton wrote: > Is it possible to make the fn key act as a control key inside of linux? > (I'd like to keep the functions of the fn key combinations if > possible). Are the keys recognised? Have you checked? When you run this command: xev | grep -A2 --

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On Wed 27 Feb 2013 at 20:01:02 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > >However, I recommend to install from a CD or DVD. Download the ISO, burn > >it with your preferred application for what OS ever and then install > >Linux. > > echo that - getting USB sticks to work as an inst

Re: lightweight dns server

if you are using postfix you may not need MX to be configured. there is a option in postfix which help to resolve the domain MX directly from local system. i mean just for testing purposes. On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: > hi, > > please suggest a lightweight dns server

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On Thu 28 Feb 2013 at 09:36:29 +, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:04:04 -0500 > Mark Filipak wrote: > > > > > > Let me give you an example of the kind of insensitivity (or myopic > > stupidity) that seems to be the hallmark of the Linux community. In > > the Debian live page, dd is off

Re: Adobe Reader 9.5.4 on 64 bit Linux - SOLVED

Dear Lisi, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 28 February 2013 11:00:36 Brian wrote: > > You could do but try getting ia32-libs-gtk before you go down that route. > > Brilliant! Thank you, Brian (et al of course). I now have a functioning > Adobe Reader, and can see and use the form. Just for th

stun server. (just want to clear my concept)

i know this is not a right place to ask this question but it is just a concept clearing query. if appreciate any comment but since i only use debian as a whole solution i could not stop my self throwing this question. please ignore if you don't like to answer. actually i am looking in to installin

Re: Keyboard remapping

Hi, On 28.02.2013 11:19, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > Hi > > On Thu, 2013-02-28 at 09:09 +, Daniel Dalton wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I recently bought a new laptop. >> >> Annoyingly the laptop function key is where you'd expect the control key >> and the control key is one key in from the left.

Re: Adobe Reader 9.5.4 on 64 bit Linux

On Thursday 28 February 2013 11:12:46 Curt wrote: > On 2013-02-28, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > So - where now? Install everything in the list that is not a dev file > > and is not installed? > > I have acroread working in Squeeze and opened the online document with > the application on my machine. > >

Re: Keyboard remapping

Hi, On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:19:38AM +, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > Annoyingly the laptop function key is where you'd expect the control key > and the control key is one key in from the left. > > Is it possible to make the fn key act as a control key inside of linux? > (I'd like to keep

Re: Adobe Reader 9.5.4 on 64 bit Linux - SOLVED

On Thursday 28 February 2013 11:00:36 Brian wrote: > On Thu 28 Feb 2013 at 10:18:17 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > So - where now? Install everything in the list that is not a dev file > > and is not installed? > > You could do but try getting ia32-libs-gtk before you go down that route. Brilliant!

Re: Adobe Reader 9.5.4 on 64 bit Linux

On 2013-02-28, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > So - where now? Install everything in the list that is not a dev file and is > not installed? > I have acroread working in Squeeze and opened the online document with the application on my machine. I have only the following ia32-libs installed: ia32-libs

Re: Adobe Reader 9.5.4 on 64 bit Linux

On Thu 28 Feb 2013 at 10:18:17 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > So - where now? Install everything in the list that is not a dev file and is > not installed? You could do but try getting ia32-libs-gtk before you go down that route. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: I wish to advocate linux

[Please keep attributions, I presume you are not answering yourself!] On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:39:09AM +0100, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: > > > what? That's absurd. The only people I know who have their OS installed > > at a shop are Apple users. > > Sounds like an ideal country. In France, even i

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:26:01PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 03:52:24PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: > > On 2013/2/27 3:45 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > >* On 2013 27 Feb 14:25 -0600, Mark Filipak wrote: > > > > > >>What a nonsensical statement. I've never successfully in

Re: Keyboard remapping

Hi On Thu, 2013-02-28 at 09:09 +, Daniel Dalton wrote: > Hi, > > I recently bought a new laptop. > > Annoyingly the laptop function key is where you'd expect the control key > and the control key is one key in from the left. > > Is it possible to make the fn key act as a control key ins

Re: Adobe Reader 9.5.4 on 64 bit Linux

Thanks, Chris. I think that you have found at least part of the problem. I had run aptitude search which said it was installed. I had to go via Kwrite, so the command line bit is missing. So - where now? Install everything in the list that is not a dev file and is not installed? On Thursda

Re: Adobe Reader 9.5.4 on 64 bit Linux

Hello List, as Wheezy is on the edge to get stable, a good option would be either to wait for Wheezy or to migrate right now to Wheezy then make the Wheezy box a bi architecture one (i386+amd64), and then to install the acroread Multimedi-Debian deb ball. Jerome On 28/02/13 10:46, Chris Banni

Re: device descriptor read/64, error -32

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 09:54:57PM +0100, Matej Martiniak wrote: > Hi > I was trying to install squeeze 6.0.7 Debian, > when this error occured: > usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -32 > it happend immidiately after booting USB with > image and choosing install. > I have Windows 7 install

Re: Adobe Reader 9.5.4 on 64 bit Linux

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:24:42PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 27 February 2013 18:59:06 Claudius Hubig wrote: > > Dear Lisi, > > > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > There has, I know, been quite a lot about 32 bit on 64 bit systems > > > recently. But I am not clear where I should start with t

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 07:07:02PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: > On 2013/2/27 6:53 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > >First off... stop this bs of sending replies personally (or sending dups to > >both the list and me). > > Why do you keep sending me messages that contain both email addresses? You

Debian 7 on Lenovo S10-2?

Before I wipe my HD, has anyone installed Debian 7 on a Lenovo S10-2? WiFi = 02:00.0 Network Controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01) Thanks, John -- John Conover, cono...@rahul.net, http://www.johncon.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@

Re: I wish to advocate linux

> what? That's absurd. The only people I know who have their OS installed > at a shop are Apple users. Sounds like an ideal country. In France, even if it is illegal, all computers have an installed OS on them. And guess which one? > Look, I asked for help. Then things got out of hand. Some Linu

Re: I wish to advocate linux

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:04:04 -0500 Mark Filipak wrote: > > Let me give you an example of the kind of insensitivity (or myopic > stupidity) that seems to be the hallmark of the Linux community. In > the Debian live page, dd is offered as the way to copy the ISO file > to a USB stick. But the dd

Re: I wish to advocate linux

Le Jeu 28 février 2013 1:04, Mark Filipak a écrit : > On 2013/2/27 6:31 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >> Mark Filipak wrote: >> >>> On 2013/2/27 11:18 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: >>> Hasn't even run it, apprently, or at least wrote in an earlier message "But I don't run Linux."

Re: I wish to advocate linux

> Cities that switched from Microsoft to Linux, for their departments, > switched back to Windows. Not all. IIRC I've heard of Zurich, recently, said anew that it is interesting to switch to linux because very, very cheaper. And in France, policemen (at least one, affiliated to military) are usin

Keyboard remapping

Hi, I recently bought a new laptop. Annoyingly the laptop function key is where you'd expect the control key and the control key is one key in from the left. Is it possible to make the fn key act as a control key inside of linux? (I'd like to keep the functions of the fn key combinations if p

Re: I wish to advocate linux

>> I posit that your problem with Linux is YOU! > > What are you doing here? You obviously don't care about helping people. You are wrong. She is trying to help you to understand that your problem with linux is located between your computer and your chair. Well, but I suspect that, to reproduce t

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