Re: Steam on Debian

2013-01-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 31 ian 13, 22:40:35, Claudius Hubig wrote: > - As noted above, I didn't get the second X to recognise my input > devices on startup. Try bind-mounting /dev in the chroot. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailm

Re: make command understanding

2013-01-31 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Thanks all for all the detailed answers :) very helpful. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Muhammad Yousuf Khan writes: > >> Thanks all , thanks for the detailed answer but do you think compiling >> is a good solution to go-with, except installing the package from >> reposito

Re: Iceweasel is already running ...

2013-01-31 Thread Tom Bamford
On 31 January 2013 10:35, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > No I prefer Firefox and I don't get this issue. Yes, Firefox also often > says that an instance already is running, but than I simply have to wait > some seconds and can retry, even if it's more evil, I only need to reboot, > but this is a long time

Re: testing openvpn virtually on debian host

2013-01-31 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
2013/2/1 Artur Frydel : > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: >> hi, >> >> please suggest me a virtualization software to help me practice >> configuring openvpn >> thanks. >> > > The question is: what kind of hardware do you have? How strong? How > many ram, etch... > But gen

RE: Steam on Debian

2013-01-31 Thread Mark Allums
> From: David Guntner [mailto:dav...@akamail.net] > Mark Allums grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > > Thanks for your reply. I am a bit skeptical that many distributions will be > > officially supported. Certainly Ubuntu and direct derivatives, possibly > > Debian and direct derivatives, probably

RE: Steam on Debian [mostly SOLVED]

2013-01-31 Thread Mark Allums
> From: Renaud Casenave-Péré [mailto:ren...@casenave-pere.fr] > Hi, > > You can follow this tutorial from Sam Hocevar (former DPL) : > http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/1/846939071205530634/ > Following this method, I got Steam partially running. The games that were previously l

Re: make command understanding

2013-01-31 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Muhammad Yousuf Khan writes: > Thanks all , thanks for the detailed answer but do you think compiling > is a good solution to go-with, except installing the package from > repository. i have heard that people always suggest to install > packages from repository not by compiling. i know repo shou

Re: More than one window manager

2013-01-31 Thread Marcin Kłapkowski
Dnia 2013-01-31, o godz. 19:23:17 Brian napisał(a): > On Thu 31 Jan 2013 at 19:39:08 +0100, Marcin Kłapkowski wrote: > > > XDM doesn't have choice for window manager, so only .xsession is my > > choice. > > In > >/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources > > find the line beginning > >xlogin*login.tra

Re: Steam on Debian

2013-01-31 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Claudius Hubig wrote: Dear Mark, Mark Allums wrote: Is there any (un)official Debian Steam client? Has anyone (but me) gotten the native Steam client running well in Debian? I am running it in an Ubuntu 12.04 schroot (set up with debootstrap), which has the nice side-effect that I can use wh

Re: More than one window manager

2013-01-31 Thread Marcin Kłapkowski
Dnia 2013-01-31, o godz. 19:46:07 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org napisał(a): > > > Le 31.01.2013 19:39, Marcin Kłapkowski a écrit : > > Hello, > > > > I have Debian wheezy. I use i3 window manager, starting with xdm on > > tty7. I wanted to test other window managers without changing my > > basi

Re: Steam on Debian

2013-01-31 Thread David Guntner
[Oops, accidentally sent this reply directly to Mark (sorry about that!). Resending to the list...] Mark Allums grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > Thanks for your reply. I am a bit skeptical that many distributions will be > officially supported. Certainly Ubuntu and direct derivatives, possib

Re: More than one window manager

2013-01-31 Thread Marcin Kłapkowski
Dnia 2013-01-31, o godz. 20:46:14 Andrei POPESCU napisał(a): > On Jo, 31 ian 13, 19:39:08, Marcin Kłapkowski wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have Debian wheezy. I use i3 window manager, starting with xdm on > > tty7. I wanted to test other window managers without changing my > > basic config, and st

Re: Steam on Debian

2013-01-31 Thread David Guntner
Mark Allums grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > You have it the wrong way around. In fact, none of that is me at all. I am > generally aware of the quoting conventions. That is *very* weird then - because the message I was replying to at the time was "From:" your address. Oh well, beats me. :-)

RE: Steam on Debian

2013-01-31 Thread Mark Allums
> From: Frank Lanitz [mailto:fr...@frank.uvena.de] > Am 30.01.2013 23:53, schrieb Mark Allums: > > Is there any word on the eventual ship date of such a thing as installing > > Steam, or any news at all concerning it and Debian? > > From my point fo view you might want to check with folks behind

RE: Steam on Debian

2013-01-31 Thread Mark Allums
From: David Guntner [mailto:dav...@akamail.net] > Mark Allums grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > > I tried and failed, but I didn't spend more than a couple of hours on it. I > > never managed to completely fix the dependency chain for getting the > Ubuntu > > package to install cleanly. Do you

Re: Steam on Debian

2013-01-31 Thread Claudius Hubig
Dear Mark, Mark Allums wrote: > Is there any (un)official Debian Steam client? Has anyone (but me) gotten > the native Steam client running well in Debian? I am running it in an Ubuntu 12.04 schroot (set up with debootstrap), which has the nice side-effect that I can use whatever X drivers I wan

Re: Steam on Debian

2013-01-31 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 30.01.2013 23:53, schrieb Mark Allums: > Is there any word on the eventual ship date of such a thing as installing > Steam, or any news at all concerning it and Debian? From my point fo view you might want to check with folks behind Steam. It's complete non-free software within a beta-status. .

Re: Steam on Debian

2013-01-31 Thread David Guntner
Mark Allums grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > I tried and failed, but I didn't spend more than a couple of hours on it. I > never managed to completely fix the dependency chain for getting the Ubuntu > package to install cleanly. Do you have any tips that you can remember? What > Debian release ar

RE: Steam on Debian

2013-01-31 Thread Mark Allums
I tried and failed, but I didn't spend more than a couple of hours on it. I never managed to completely fix the dependency chain for getting the Ubuntu package to install cleanly. Do you have any tips that you can remember? What Debian release are you running? i386 or amd64? I doubt Steam wi

Re: Booting Linux using UEFI can brick Samsung laptops

2013-01-31 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:48 PM, William Ivanski wrote: > > I just have read this: > > http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Booting-Linux-using-UEFI-can-brick-Samsung-laptops-1793958.html > > And I also found this: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1040557 > > It seems that kern

Re: Booting Linux using UEFI can brick Samsung laptops

2013-01-31 Thread Greg Madden
On Thursday 31 January 2013 9:48:45 am you wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I just have read this: > > http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Booting-Linux-using-UEFI-can-b >rick-Samsung-laptops-1793958.html > > And I also found this: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1040557 > > It seems

Re: HDMI output

2013-01-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 31 ian 13, 19:38:39, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 31/01/13 19:15, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > [You replied to my private address, feel free to put this back on list] > > > Oops, sorry! Hereby back on the list. > > > On Jo, 31 ian 13, 19:03:17, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > > >> (II) RADEON(

Re: testing openvpn virtually on debian host

2013-01-31 Thread Artur Frydel
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: > hi, > > please suggest me a virtualization software to help me practice > configuring openvpn > thanks. > The question is: what kind of hardware do you have? How strong? How many ram, etch... But generally speaking Virtualbox with headles

Re: Steam on Debian

2013-01-31 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Mark Allums wrote: > Is there any (un)official Debian Steam client? Has anyone (but me) gotten > the native Steam client running well in Debian? > > I had it running briefly through a great deal of manual labor, but I changed > my configurations several times, and

Re: More than one window manager

2013-01-31 Thread Brian
On Thu 31 Jan 2013 at 19:39:08 +0100, Marcin Kłapkowski wrote: > XDM doesn't have choice for window manager, so only .xsession is my > choice. In /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources find the line beginning xlogin*login.translations: #override\ and add this to it F2: set-session-argument(fvwm) f

Re: HDMI output

2013-01-31 Thread Doug
On 01/31/2013 01:49 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 31 January 2013 18:38:39 Tony van der Hoff wrote: Well, yes, but ... I unplugged the DVD player, which I know works, and plugged in the HDMI output. Result: a blank screen. I can't see what else can affect that end. I guess I'll just have to

Re: HDMI output

2013-01-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 31 January 2013 18:38:39 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Well, yes, but ... > I unplugged the DVD player, which I know works, and plugged in the HDMI > output. Result: a blank screen. I can't see what else can affect that end. > > I guess I'll just have to fiddle around a bit more. Probably

Booting Linux using UEFI can brick Samsung laptops

2013-01-31 Thread William Ivanski
Hi everyone, I just have read this: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Booting-Linux-using-UEFI-can-brick-Samsung-laptops-1793958.html And I also found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1040557 It seems that kernel's drive "samsung-laptop" can brick Samsung laptops, wh

Re: More than one window manager

2013-01-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 31 ian 13, 19:39:08, Marcin Kłapkowski wrote: > Hello, > > I have Debian wheezy. I use i3 window manager, starting with xdm on > tty7. I wanted to test other window managers without changing my basic > config, and still using my desktop. Tried on tty6 with: > startx /usr/bin/awesome > it st

Re: More than one window manager

2013-01-31 Thread berenger . morel
Le 31.01.2013 19:39, Marcin Kłapkowski a écrit : Hello, I have Debian wheezy. I use i3 window manager, starting with xdm on tty7. I wanted to test other window managers without changing my basic config, and still using my desktop. Tried on tty6 with: startx /usr/bin/awesome it start nice, an

Re: HDMI output

2013-01-31 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 31/01/13 19:15, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > [You replied to my private address, feel free to put this back on list] > Oops, sorry! Hereby back on the list. > On Jo, 31 ian 13, 19:03:17, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > >> (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 disconnected >> (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connecte

More than one window manager

2013-01-31 Thread Marcin Kłapkowski
Hello, I have Debian wheezy. I use i3 window manager, starting with xdm on tty7. I wanted to test other window managers without changing my basic config, and still using my desktop. Tried on tty6 with: startx /usr/bin/awesome it start nice, and it's working. But when i switch to tty7 and back to t

Re: HDMI output

2013-01-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 31 ian 13, 11:29:17, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Hi, > > I have a HP dv6 laptop, running squeeze/KDE4. > > I'm trying to view the video output on my TV using the HDMI connection. > Evidently from the OSD, the TV recognises that there's something > connected, and krandr on the laptop also in

Re: make command understanding

2013-01-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 31 ian 13, 14:47:14, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 13:29 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > _ easier to remove > > No, self compiled is as easy to remove as a package You are assuming that both 'make install' and 'make uninstall' are correct and maintained. At l

Re: make command understanding

2013-01-31 Thread berenger . morel
Le 31.01.2013 14:47, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 13:29 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: _ easier to remove No, self compiled is as easy to remove as a package Of course, there are the "make uninstall" & co commands, but can you use them with a centralized package

Re: multi-arch and wine?

2013-01-31 Thread Gary Dale
On 31/01/13 12:08 AM, Brad Alexander wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Gary Dale wrote: On 30/01/13 07:31 PM, Brad Alexander wrote: Keeping on the gaming theme, I have a question Many months ago, I installed playonlinux, and the wine64-unstable libs in order to play Starcraft II. Well I

Re: make command understanding

2013-01-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> > _ less dependencies (no need to install all *-dev packages of their > > dependencies, and their own dependencies, same for makefile > > The dependencies for the build package or directly installed software > are the same But it's not completely untrue, that there could appear dependency iss

Re: make command understanding

2013-01-31 Thread Go Linux
--- On Thu, 1/31/13, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > From: Muhammad Yousuf Khan > Subject: make command understanding > To: "debian" > Date: Thursday, January 31, 2013, 1:44 AM > i normally install things from the > repository of debian by "apt-get > install" however just need to know if in case

Re: make command understanding

2013-01-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 13:29 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > _ easier to remove No, self compiled is as easy to remove as a package > _ easier to maintain No, simply build a package > _ tried by other (at least, by people who made them) Correct, they are tested by the community, t

Re: make command understanding

2013-01-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 17:15 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > Thanks all , thanks for the detailed answer but do you think compiling > is a good solution to go-with, except installing the package from > repository. i have heard that people always suggest to install > packages from repository no

Re: /var full

2013-01-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 30. Januar 2013 schrieb David Guntner: > Bob Proulx grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > In the future instead of removing a file that you want to be freed > > immediately consider truncating it instead. By truncating the file it > > does not matter if there are other handles to it. The

Re: make command understanding

2013-01-31 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2013 31 Jan 06:16 -0600, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > Thanks all , thanks for the detailed answer but do you think compiling > is a good solution to go-with, except installing the package from > repository. i have heard that people always suggest to install > packages from repository not by

Re: Steam on Debian

2013-01-31 Thread Thore
Am 30.01.2013 23:53, schrieb Mark Allums: Is there any (un)official Debian Steam client? Has anyone (but me) gotten the native Steam client running well in Debian? I had it running briefly through a great deal of manual labor, but I changed my configurations several times, and now I am prohibit

Re: testing openvpn virtually on debian host

2013-01-31 Thread emmanuel segura
Why you don't use a kvm guest? 2013/1/31 Umarzuki Mochlis > hi, > > please suggest me a virtualization software to help me practice > configuring openvpn > thanks. > -- > Regards, > > Umarzuki Mochlis > http://debmal.my > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > w

Re: testing openvpn virtually on debian host

2013-01-31 Thread Claudius Hubig
Dear Umarzuki, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: > please suggest me a virtualization software to help me practice > configuring openvpn VirtualBox[1] will do fine and has a nice and pleasant user interface. I fear it won’t fix your Shift key, though. Best, Claudius [1] https://www.virtualbox.org/, also

Re: make command understanding

2013-01-31 Thread berenger . morel
Le 31.01.2013 13:15, Muhammad Yousuf Khan a écrit : Thanks all , thanks for the detailed answer but do you think compiling is a good solution to go-with, except installing the package from repository. i have heard that people always suggest to install packages from repository not by compiling

testing openvpn virtually on debian host

2013-01-31 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
hi, please suggest me a virtualization software to help me practice configuring openvpn thanks. -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: make command understanding

2013-01-31 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Thanks all , thanks for the detailed answer but do you think compiling is a good solution to go-with, except installing the package from repository. i have heard that people always suggest to install packages from repository not by compiling. i know repo should contain old release but stable one h

Re: /var full

2013-01-31 Thread Steven Ayre
> Also there is still no nerw syslog file, probably because the filesystem > shows 0 bytes free. The reason for this is the syslog-ng daemon still has a handle open to the old file (which as already has been mentioned is why the partition was still full). If you are going to delete the file, yo

HDMI output

2013-01-31 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Hi, I have a HP dv6 laptop, running squeeze/KDE4. I'm trying to view the video output on my TV using the HDMI connection. Evidently from the OSD, the TV recognises that there's something connected, and krandr on the laptop also indicates an HDMI connection. However, there is no video. Presumably

Re: make command understanding

2013-01-31 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 01/31/2013 08:44 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > i normally install things from the repository of debian by "apt-get > install" however just need to know if in case circumstances push me to > compile things at some point.so the question that i am asking is just > for learning purpose. > i have

Re: Network Sniffer

2013-01-31 Thread Meike Stone
> >> you can also try tcpdump. you can capture traffic wothout a GUI and >> then analyze it in wireshark. > > By the way do You know how to see the captured packet data w/ tcpdump > w/o using wireshark? - Under the data I mean not technical > communication data but the useful data the packets carry

Re: Iceweasel is already running ...

2013-01-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 03:52:09 +0100, Weaver wrote: Do you have Icedove installed? No I prefer Firefox and I don't get this issue. Yes, Firefox also often says that an instance already is running, but than I simply have to wait some seconds and can retry, even if it's more evil, I only need

Re: make command understanding

2013-01-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Reading the other replies, I suspect you are talking about compiling Debian source packages or something else, while make is not the only thing coders do use, for make you usually have to run three command configure make make install resp. "make love, not install" - from another Linux user