Re: Memory errors on new memory in new system

2012-11-28 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 11/28/2012 09:24 AM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm afraid I can't really answer that. All I can do is repeat that when MemTest86+ reports an error, it is a good indication that you have a problem. I've seen this on systems where MemTest86+ reported only a few problems but the computer locked up inter

Re: User group in SW Missouri?

2012-11-28 Thread David Williams
How do you compile Debian from the source code files? Sent from my iPad On Nov 28, 2012, at 9:34 PM, "Russell L. Harris" wrote: > * slick.coo...@gmail.com [121129 05:00]: >> On Saturday, July 14, 2012 4:20:01 PM UTC-5, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 7/14/2012 9:39 AM,

Re: User group in SW Missouri?

2012-11-28 Thread Russell L. Harris
* slick.coo...@gmail.com [121129 05:00]: > On Saturday, July 14, 2012 4:20:01 PM UTC-5, Richard Owlett wrote: >> Stan Hoeppner wrote: >>> On 7/14/2012 9:39 AM, Chris wrote: From: "Richard Owlett" ... >>> In my experience these gatherings serve mostly a social function, >>> not a technical/lea

Re: User group in SW Missouri?

2012-11-28 Thread slick . cooper
On Saturday, July 14, 2012 4:20:01 PM UTC-5, Richard Owlett wrote: > Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > On 7/14/2012 9:39 AM, Chris wrote: > > >> On this topic, is there someting near the Peoria Illinois area? > > > > > >> From: "Richard Owlett" > > > > > >> I knew of groups in the St. Louis and Kans

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 21:22 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > There are also services that become quite distressed if the clock > jumps back an hour. OIC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Ar

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread John Hasler
Ralf Mardorf writes: > That's not true, after running ntpdate everything is ok. Except for anything that happened before ntpdate ran, such as writing logs. And if ntpdate never runs because it can't reach a server you're an hour off. There are also services that become quite distressed if the cl

Can not get fan control going in wheezy. Any help appreciated

2012-11-28 Thread Tim Long
Hi all, I have just updated my laptop (HP Compaq 6730s) to Wheezy and I am diagnosing my first problem. The fan control deamon refuses to run and I think lm-sensors is unable to find/configure the fan control system. I suspect it a bug with the lm-sensors package. After the install I get the fol

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 16:01 -0800, unruh wrote: > In linux.debian.user, you wrote: > > > > Exactly, there are no issues when using Linux with the hardware clock > > using local time. > > Yes, there are. If the clock is on localtime, when Linux boots up it > assumes that the bios clock really is on

Re: Write protect access on USB port [WORKS]

2012-11-28 Thread Amit
Pascal Hambourg plouf.fr.eu.org> writes: > > Amit a écrit : > > Pascal Hambourg plouf.fr.eu.org> writes: > > > >> That's because the filesystem is on a partition, not on the whole disk, > >> an the partition block device is still read-write. > >> The read-only flag must be set on the disk and

Re: a question about firewalls (or whatever else that might cause packet drop)

2012-11-28 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello, Matej Kosik a écrit : > > I am experiencing some deterministic packet drop: > - when I tcpreplay on "lo" some pcap (0.pcap) file, > that traffic does not reach listening applications > - when I change source IP address from whatever it was to, e.g., > 10.0.10.6, 10.0.10.7 etc, Why the

Re: Desktop button in Gnome

2012-11-28 Thread Gean Ceretta
On 11/28/12, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: > Dear list - > > Is there a way to have a button in the tray that will minimize all the > windows and show the desktop? Enjoy: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/368/ To install you have an nice black button "on/off" on the top-left corner of the

"Abberant symptopm" or "bug worth attempting to duplicate"?

2012-11-28 Thread Richard Owlett
I have one laptop whose sole reason for existence is to serve as a test-bed for my hopefully educational experiments. My torture test is up to a dozen Debian installs per week. On related issue I've already been asked "Out of pure curiosity, why this machine to be "chastened" in this way?" :)

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:31 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: [snip] spinymouse@q:~$ ls -l /media/spinymouse/INTENSO/ total 32 -rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 304 Oct 22 2011 B22OCT11.CMO -rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 304 Sep 30 2011 B30SEP11.CMO -rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 15644 No

Re: protecting web directories in apache2

2012-11-28 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:24:09PM +0530, Kushal Kumaran wrote: > Zachary Uram writes: > > > Running Apache2 on Debian testing release. Say I have a directory > > http://www.website.org/files/ > > And I want to let a user download a file: > > http://www.website.org/files/example.txt > > But I don

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:31 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > Or think of banking transactions or stock exchange transactions. I guess something like this really is an issue, but I also suspect that this anyway will be handled by special software. Thank you for the explanation, Ralf -- To UNSUBSC

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 28 November 2012 16:18:30 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 10:40 -0800, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > > On 28 November 2012 09:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:45 -0800, unruh wrote: > > >> In linux.debian.user, you wrote: > > >> > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:

Re: Does Debian dictionary/glossary/acronym list exist?

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 15:31 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I suspect this group is basically just to young to > appreciate 'ye good ole daze' ;) I'm born in November 1966, but on Linux Audio Users/Developers Mailing List there are much older audio, video engineers, who are computer dinos too, aro

Re: booting/installing debian

2012-11-28 Thread berenger . morel
Le 28.11.2012 20:35, Loic J. Duros a écrit : Thanks for your answer, On 11/28/2012 11:19 AM, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: _ an installer with a preseed which make the ssh install the default How do I get to make an installer that will install ssh by default without any key input required? Actua

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread berenger . morel
Le 28.11.2012 20:32, Miles Fidelman a écrit : "Morel Bérenger" wrote: (Personally, I'm suspicious of software and changes that are distribution-specific.) Are you suspicious about the Debian Linux kernel? It have distro specific patches. (But I think and hope that they are reported upstream.

OT: vacuum tubes nowadays - Does Debian dictionary/glossary/acronym list exist?

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 15:58 -0500, Wally Lepore wrote: > Source: RCA Receiving Tube Manual RC-30 Winfried Knobloch "Röhrentechnik ganz modern" among others used by the holder of a famous German company for some kind of audio tube equipment, that is used by all famous recording studios, all over th

Re: Does Debian dictionary/glossary/acronym list exist?

2012-11-28 Thread Richard Owlett
Wally Lepore wrote: On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: What do I do when I find terms such as initrd or udeb ? Hi Richard, You may have already found your answer but here are a few links I discovered that may provide additional support. I got the answer to the question

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Gary Dale
On 28/11/12 03:54 PM, Eike Lantzsch wrote: On Wednesday 28 November 2012 10:09:42 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 15:55 +0530, J. B wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both hwclock > > and system time. But linux always fav

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 28 November 2012 10:09:42 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 15:55 +0530, J. B wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both hwclock > > and system time. But linux always favor hwclock to UTC. What is the > > advantage of doin

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Gary Dale
On 28/11/12 03:26 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 28 nov 12, 14:09:42, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The Linux has to know if the hwclock does use UTC or not and then it will set up the clock, when running a Linux to the correct time for your timezone. IOW you only have to inform what time hwclock does u

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 22:26 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 28 nov 12, 14:09:42, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > The Linux has to know if the hwclock does use UTC or not and then it > > will set up the clock, when running a Linux to the correct time for your > > timezone. IOW you only have to in

Re: Does Debian dictionary/glossary/acronym list exist?

2012-11-28 Thread Wally Lepore
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > What do I do when I find terms such as initrd or udeb ? > Hi Richard, You may have already found your answer but here are a few links I discovered that may provide additional support. In regards to udeb: http://lists.debian.org/debian-d

Re: which package has a binary like this sendmail one in exim?

2012-11-28 Thread John L. Cunningham
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:42:31AM -0900, Britton Kerin wrote: > Hi folks, > > I know exim sometimes contains a sendmail binary because on one system I > get this: > > britt...@brittonkerin.com [~]# sendmail --version > Exim version 4.76 #1 built 26-Oct-2012 16:41:54 > Copyright (c) Univers

Re: help

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I intentionally break the thread, since there's a ≥ 50% chance that the original mail is spam and we shouldn't risk to reply directly to this thread. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Ar

Re: which package has a binary like this sendmail one in exim?

2012-11-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 28 nov 12, 09:42:31, Britton Kerin wrote: > > But on my debian box (current stable distribution), there is no > /usr/bin/sendmail binary even though I have exim installed. There is a > /usr/sbin/sendmail binary, but it doesn't seem to be the same one because: > > $ /usr/sbin/sendmail --

Re: which package has a binary like this sendmail one in exim?

2012-11-28 Thread Cosme Domínguez Díaz
El 28/11/12 19:42, Britton Kerin escribió: Does anyone know what debian package provides the /usr/bin/sendmail program or its equivalent like on the first system described? http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=squeeze§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=%2Fusr%2Fsbin%2Fsendmail And

Re: which package has a binary like this sendmail one in exim?

2012-11-28 Thread David Guntner
Britton Kerin grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > Hi folks, > > I know exim sometimes contains a sendmail binary because on one system I > get this: > > britt...@brittonkerin.com [~]# sendmail --version > Exim version 4.76 #1 built 26-Oct-2012 16:41:54 > Copyright (c) University of Cambridge, 1

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 28 nov 12, 14:09:42, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > The Linux has to know if the hwclock does use UTC or not and then it > will set up the clock, when running a Linux to the correct time for your > timezone. IOW you only have to inform what time hwclock does use. Yes. > I'm living in Germany, if

Re: help

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi - • I was not able to figure what you need help with from your mail • please use a descriptive subject when posting to this list • please do not send HTML to this list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact list

Spamd: How much memory is normal?

2012-11-28 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi folks, just a little question. I am using spamassassin and bayes. The system is telling me, that two processes "spamd" are running with each about 600MB. I guess, this memory is forked and not 1,2 GB. Anyway, 600MB seems pretty much memory for spamd, but as far as I googled, it seems ok.

Wheezy; No Speech when booting with Speakup on Older Dell Systems.

2012-11-28 Thread Martin McCormick
I tried the netinstall version of the Debian wheezy CD around November 23 or so and certain Dell systems such as a Del Dimension and a Dell Optiplex from around that same time period will not talk. What do I need to do to help solve this problem? The boot procedure is to insert th

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 10:40 -0800, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > On 28 November 2012 09:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:45 -0800, unruh wrote: > >> In linux.debian.user, you wrote: > >> > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:44 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > >> >> Yep. Unfortunately Microsoft ne

Re: time zone and UTC issue [BIOS]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I guess there's a language barrier. Those two files were not saved with Linux and not saved with Windows, they were saved by the BIOS: spinymouse@q:~$ ls -l /media/spinymouse/INTENSO/*.CMO -rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 304 Oct 22 2011 /media/spinymouse/INTENSO/B22OCT11.CMO -rw-r--r-- 1 spi

which package has a binary like this sendmail one in exim?

2012-11-28 Thread Britton Kerin
Hi folks, I know exim sometimes contains a sendmail binary because on one system I get this: britt...@brittonkerin.com [~]# sendmail --version Exim version 4.76 #1 built 26-Oct-2012 16:41:54 Copyright (c) University of Cambridge, 1995 - 2007 Berkeley DB: Berkeley DB 4.7.25: (April 4, 201

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 28 November 2012 09:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:45 -0800, unruh wrote: >> In linux.debian.user, you wrote: >> > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:44 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: >> >> Yep. Unfortunately Microsoft never learned in > 25 years that the >> >> world has more time zones

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:17 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:12 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 11:48 -0600, green wrote: > > > Ralf Mardorf wrote at 2012-11-28 11:04 -0600: > > > > If I save BIOS settings as a file and the hwclock is set to UTC, the > > >

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:12 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 11:48 -0600, green wrote: > > Ralf Mardorf wrote at 2012-11-28 11:04 -0600: > > > If I save BIOS settings as a file and the hwclock is set to UTC, the > > > files don't get the German time. The BIOS is the BIOS, it's nei

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 11:48 -0600, green wrote: > Ralf Mardorf wrote at 2012-11-28 11:04 -0600: > > If I save BIOS settings as a file and the hwclock is set to UTC, the > > files don't get the German time. The BIOS is the BIOS, it's neither > > Windows, I don't use Windows, but nor the BIOS is Linu

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread green
Ralf Mardorf wrote at 2012-11-28 11:04 -0600: > If I save BIOS settings as a file and the hwclock is set to UTC, the > files don't get the German time. The BIOS is the BIOS, it's neither > Windows, I don't use Windows, but nor the BIOS is Linux, so Linux can't > "translate" UTC to local time, when

help

2012-11-28 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
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Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:00:07AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Jon Dowland wrote: > >On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:47:46PM +0100, Slavko wrote: > >>Ubuntu leaves 93 % of packages untouched and changes/additions are done > >>only to 7 % from them (statistic by some Ubuntu & Debian developer - > >>so

Re: Memory errors on new memory in new system

2012-11-28 Thread Gary Dale
On 28/11/12 11:29 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 11:08 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: On 28/11/12 10:17 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: In the absence of an updated Debian install (it's wiser not to update a digital audio workstation too often) I used another install of current Ubuntu Quantal 6

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:45 -0800, unruh wrote: > In linux.debian.user, you wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:44 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > >> Yep. Unfortunately Microsoft never learned in > 25 years that the > >> world has more time zones than they might have imagined in DOS-times. > > > > Th

Re: Memory errors on new memory in new system

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 11:42 -0500, Doug wrote: > I'm surprised that Memtest gives different results depending on what > disk you run it from, I guess it would be a good idea to download a > stand-alone version and run a sanity check on the download. BTW, > Memtest has been around forever. I thin

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:00:07 -0500 Miles Fidelman napísal: > What that 7% statistic really suggests is some combination of: > > a. Some of those packages are developed by folks who use Ubuntu, and > don't get around to releasing a separate package for Debian (or > nobody has stepped up to

Re: Memory errors on new memory in new system

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 11:08 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > On 28/11/12 10:17 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > In the absence of an updated Debian install (it's wiser not to update a > > digital audio workstation too often) I used another install of current > > Ubuntu Quantal 64-bit, Memtest86+ v4.20 and inst

Re: Memory errors on new memory in new system

2012-11-28 Thread Doug
On 11/28/2012 02:32 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: My apologize, but I don't have the time to read everything. I read that you get errors when running Memtest. Do you have issues using the computer? Did you run Memtest from different distros (live media)? I never have issues when using my computer. If

Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:37:09PM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > informations. With apt-cache if I am running my debian, or with > http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=foobar if I am not using A shortcut for this is http://packages.debian.org/ Cheers, Tom -- The flow char

Re: booting/installing debian

2012-11-28 Thread Loic J. Duros
Thanks for your answer, On 11/28/2012 11:19 AM, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: _ an installer with a preseed which make the ssh install the default How do I get to make an installer that will install ssh by default without any key input required? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@list

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
"Morel Bérenger" wrote: (Personally, I'm suspicious of software and changes that are distribution-specific.) Are you suspicious about the Debian Linux kernel? It have distro specific patches. (But I think and hope that they are reported upstream. Did not checked.) Well, that's why I included t

RE: Kobo or Kindle

2012-11-28 Thread Mark Allums
> Regarding the usage experience of those ereaders on the caput, what > you find more compatible do Debian? > > I know both of them don't have software specifically for linux. I also > know I can read Kindle cloud books using a browser. I don't know for > Kobo. > > Also, to use them as an author,

Finalmente. " Nuove soluzioni finanziarie "

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Re: Kobo or Kindle

2012-11-28 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:50:02 +0100 Beco wrote: > Dear fellows, > > Regarding the usage experience of those ereaders on the caput, what > you find more compatible do Debian? Pocketbook runs on Linux, a Debian flavored one, compatible with many e-reader formats and works with Calibre through a U

Re: booting/installing debian

2012-11-28 Thread Morel Bérenger
> Do you have any recommendation on how to do this without requiring any > keyboard input or a screen? I'd like to be able to scp a few files from the > windows partition, and then wipe out the partition and install debian on > the harddrive from SSH, and of course at the next reboot using the > ha

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Morel Bérenger
> That's an even more flawed argument. We're talking about packaging, not > development. Packaging will differ if the maintainer thinks that an optional dep is better than another, or the option is useless etc... So, I think packagers must have some knowledge about the software they maintain. But

booting/installing debian

2012-11-28 Thread Loic J. Duros
I have a laptop that someone gave to me because the video card is dead and it is now useless to the person. I would like to run my email server on it from home. Currently in the hard drive I believe there is Windows 7 only. I'd like to be able to boot/install debian along with ssh so I can remo

Re: Memory errors on new memory in new system

2012-11-28 Thread Gary Dale
On 28/11/12 10:17 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: In the absence of an updated Debian install (it's wiser not to update a digital audio workstation too often) I used another install of current Ubuntu Quantal 64-bit, Memtest86+ v4.20 and instead running it from the same Parted Magic live CD, I run it from

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
Jon Dowland wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:47:46PM +0100, Slavko wrote: Ubuntu leaves 93 % of packages untouched and changes/additions are done only to 7 % from them (statistic by some Ubuntu & Debian developer - sorry i have no link). Then Ubuntu has significantly less to do... That's a fla

RE: Dying hard drive?

2012-11-28 Thread Nelson Green
> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:24:13 +0100 > From: pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Dying hard drive? > > Jon Dowland a écrit : > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 02:50:39PM -0600, Nelson Green wrote: > >> 197 Current_Pending

Re: Memory errors on new memory in new system

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
In the absence of an updated Debian install (it's wiser not to update a digital audio workstation too often) I used another install of current Ubuntu Quantal 64-bit, Memtest86+ v4.20 and instead running it from the same Parted Magic live CD, I run it from the lastest Parted Magic 64-bit Live CD, al

Re: Memory errors on new memory in new system

2012-11-28 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 11/27/2012 11:09 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 11/27/2012 11:29 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: Last weekend I put together a new box to replace the one that has been locking up repeatedly. The components are: Gigabyte 970A-DS3 MB 8GB (2x4GB) Patriot G3 RAM AMD FX-4100 Quad Core CPU

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:47:46PM +0100, Slavko wrote: > Ubuntu leaves 93 % of packages untouched and changes/additions are done > only to 7 % from them (statistic by some Ubuntu & Debian developer - > sorry i have no link). Then Ubuntu has significantly less to do... That's a flawed argument. I

Re: Kobo or Kindle

2012-11-28 Thread Brad Alexander
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Lars Noodén wrote: > I'm still quite reserved about the e-readers and waiting for the dust > to settle. Early adopters are still getting hit by surprises like > this: > > https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/18084721154/barnes-noble-decides-that-purchased-eb

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:13:19 -0300 Beco napísal: > Ubuntu has probably the same "complexity" for a developer, but as they > are more friendly to novices, they have more contributors. Ubuntu leaves 93 % of packages untouched and changes/additions are done only to 7 % from them (statistic by

Re: Kobo or Kindle

2012-11-28 Thread Lars Noodén
I'm still quite reserved about the e-readers and waiting for the dust to settle. Early adopters are still getting hit by surprises like this: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/18084721154/barnes-noble-decides-that-purchased-ebooks-are-only-yours-until-your-credit-card-expires.shtml Rega

Kobo or Kindle

2012-11-28 Thread Beco
Dear fellows, Regarding the usage experience of those ereaders on the caput, what you find more compatible do Debian? I know both of them don't have software specifically for linux. I also know I can read Kindle cloud books using a browser. I don't know for Kobo. Also, to use them as an author,

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:44 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > Yep. Unfortunately Microsoft never learned in > 25 years that the > world has more time zones than they might have imagined in DOS-times. They did and as I already explained, I want to have the local time for the BIOS too. -- To UNSUBSC

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 10:37 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > The main issue comes when you're dual-booting with Windows. No Windows on my machine, but as explained in my previous mail, I sometimes store BIOS settings and want the files getting the correct date. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-u

KDE Taskbar Rearranges Itself on Boot

2012-11-28 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I am running Squeeze 6.0.6/KDE in a VM on my Laptop as a tested before upgrading my production computer. When I first install the KDE Desktop the Taskbar retains the arrangement that I make of the different icons. Unfortunately, as I use the Laptop for consulting that involves MS Win apps I ha

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 15:55 +0530, J. B wrote: > Hello list, > > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both hwclock and > system time. > But linux always favor hwclock to UTC. What is the advantage of doing that ? > > If I need my hwclock to UTC then what should be the righ

Re: a question about firewalls (or whatever else that might cause packet drop)

2012-11-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 28 nov 12, 11:54:04, Matej Kosik wrote: > The only thing which could be causing thing I was aware of was > "iptables". However, when I apt-get removed it, nothing changed. iptables is just the tool to make changes to the kernel firewall. If you suspect troubles due to the firewall you are

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 28 nov 12, 08:44:59, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > So I learned to ignore the time on Windows systems with double boot. Set it to UTC, that way it is at least partially useful. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman

Re: Error upgrading debian installation from stable to testing : malformed Release file?

2012-11-28 Thread Tim Long
Thanks for spotting of the error in the sources.list. It error message was confusing me. I did run apt-get dist-upgrade after apt-get update. The process ground to a halt with a problem over dependency error over 'default-jre' After googling the new error I had to run: apt-get -o APT::Immediate

Re: a question about firewalls (or whatever else that might cause packet drop)

2012-11-28 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:54:04AM +, Matej Kosik wrote: > Hi, > > I am experiencing some deterministic packet drop: > - when I tcpreplay on "lo" some pcap (0.pcap) file, > that traffic does not reach listening applications > - when I change source IP address from whatever it was to, e.g., >

a question about firewalls (or whatever else that might cause packet drop)

2012-11-28 Thread Matej Kosik
Hi, I am experiencing some deterministic packet drop: - when I tcpreplay on "lo" some pcap (0.pcap) file, that traffic does not reach listening applications - when I change source IP address from whatever it was to, e.g., 10.0.10.6, 10.0.10.7 etc, then when I try to replay the modified pcap

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 28 November 2012 07:37:49 Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:55:16PM +0530, J. B wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both hwclock > > and system time. But linux always favor hwclock to UTC. What is the > > advantage

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 28 November 2012 07:48:28 J. B wrote: > On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:37:49 + > > Darac Marjal wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:55:16PM +0530, J. B wrote: > > > Hello list, > > > > > > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both > > > hwclock and system time.

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread J. B
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:37:49 + Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:55:16PM +0530, J. B wrote: > > > > Hello list, > > > > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both hwclock > > and system time. > > But linux always favor hwclock to UTC. What is the advant

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:55:16PM +0530, J. B wrote: > > Hello list, > > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both hwclock and > system time. > But linux always favor hwclock to UTC. What is the advantage of doing that ? > > If I need my hwclock to UTC then what should b

Re: alix (pcengines) build up

2012-11-28 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:13:09AM +0200, binary dreamer wrote: >hi. >� >i am looking to build debian for my system ALIX (pcengines) all flavors, >especially for the ones without vga. >i am looking to create two partitions. the first will have the system and >will be read on

Re: alix (pcengines) build up

2012-11-28 Thread David Goodenough
On Wednesday 28 Nov 2012, binary dreamer wrote: > hi. > > i am looking to build debian for my system ALIX (pcengines) all flavors, > especially for the ones without vga. > i am looking to create two partitions. the first will have the system and > will be read only. writable it has to be only on d

time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread J. B
Hello list, My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both hwclock and system time. But linux always favor hwclock to UTC. What is the advantage of doing that ? If I need my hwclock to UTC then what should be the right way to do that ? I have followed "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata"

Re: alix (pcengines) build up

2012-11-28 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Mer 28 novembre 2012 8:13, binary dreamer a écrit : > hi. > > i am looking to build debian for my system ALIX (pcengines) all flavors, > especially for the ones without vga. i am looking to create two > partitions. the first will have the system and will be read only. writable > it has to be onl

Re: Write protect access on USB port

2012-11-28 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Amit a écrit : > Pascal Hambourg plouf.fr.eu.org> writes: > >> That's because the filesystem is on a partition, not on the whole disk, >> an the partition block device is still read-write. >> The read-only flag must be set on the disk and all its partitions. I >> guess udev can do this. > > I di

Re: about xfce and window managers

2012-11-28 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 27 Nov 2012, John L. Cunningham wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 04:09:07PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > > Xmonad is good but for configuration you have to delve into Haskell, > > In my experience, it's not that bad. Mostly because someone has probably > already done what you want it t