Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 06:57:45PM +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > That is certainly not the way mailing lists work, so causing a block of > some 400 characters to be sent to each and every subscriber is pure > self-indulgence, on the scale of insisting on sending HTML-formatted > mail. On balanc

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 05:32:25PM +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > So, the OP signs his mail to a list. I would guess that no web of trust > exists between him and 99.9% of the list members. > > What is the benefit of such a signature? I don't know Phil Dobbin, I haven't ever met him and I prob

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 06:37:35PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 10 May 2012 16:39:49 + (UTC) > Camaleón wrote: > > Hello Camaleón, > > > Enigmail does it with no user intervention. > > I don't use Enigmail, but I'd place a small wager that it can be set up > to either pull public key

Re: Debian Administrator's Handbook

2012-05-10 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 08:07:51PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 5/10/12 7:41 PM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > [snip] > > Hello, Alberto, and thank you again, Lars; I've been forwarding the link > > to all I think would be interested. > [snip] > > Again, the sum of my contribution was to stumble

Re: GRUB: "error incompatible license. Entering rescue mode..."

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
GRUB 3 and GRUB Legacy are GNU GPL 3+ http://www.vmware.com/ ? It's not unusual that there are issues regarding to licenses. The Linux kernel-rt and the proprietary Nvidia driver do have licenses issues too. Not funny since nv is dropped. - Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

WiFi issues after upgrade on Sid, wlan0 ; No such device

2012-05-10 Thread John Magolske
I'm running Sid on my ThinkPad X200s, and after an `aptitude upgrade` the WiFi is experiencing intermittent problems. Pretty sure it's not the hardware, as I've never experienced these issues before and this started happening exactly after the upgrade. It's an Intel Ultimate N 5300 WiFi card:

Re: AWE64 Gold is Easy to Kill

2012-05-10 Thread Ryan Frederick
Martin, I don't recall what you've already tried, but you might try adding the snd-sbawe kernel module to your /etc/modules file. You may have to specify additional options such as the port address and irq. Ryan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject o

Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-10 Thread Indulekha
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 02:07:05PM -0700, T Elcor wrote: > --- On Thu, 5/10/12, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > I'm booted to Ubuntu Studio Precise, I can't reboot to > > Debian, I've got > > no time. On Ubuntu I've got installed: > > [...snip...] > > Thanks, that's a lot of packages though. I was hop

Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-10 Thread Whit Hansell
Scott, Indulekha, Sharon and Camaleon, Thanks so much for your replies. I had previously looked and looked again at some of the recommendations you have given me and looked at the new ones too. Am just going to give it up for right now as it was really just something I was going to try to do

Re: GRUB: "error incompatible license. Entering rescue mode..."

2012-05-10 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List: I have exactly the same issue, and the same wondering: any (fresh) idea ? When rebooting this newly cloned guest system I got the following error: GRUB loading. Welcome to GRUB! error: incompatible license. Entering rescue mode... grub rescu

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 11/05/12 07:29, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 10 May 2012, Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> I've learned a lot about GPG signing during the last few days. I can see >> there are benefits where the recipient needs to be absolutely certain >> that the sender is known to him. > > Yes. O

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 10 May 2012, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > I've learned a lot about GPG signing during the last few days. I can see > there are benefits where the recipient needs to be absolutely certain > that the sender is known to him. Yes. Or that the sender belongs to a certain group, for which an auth

Re: Permissions on UNIX domain sockets

2012-05-10 Thread Chris Davies
B.R. wrote: > Nginx spawns its worker processes with the user 'nginx' who belongs > to the 'www-data' group. But when Nginx tried to bind on the PHP-FPM > socket, it encountered a 'permission denied' error. Is the primary group for the nginx user "www-data" or something else? Sometimes when a pro

Re: Only 3.6gb of 64gb RAM recognized by 64bit squeeze

2012-05-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 10 May 2012, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > If this doesn't fix the issue, and memtest and other utils can see all > 64GB just fine, then I'd say you're dealing with a BIOS bug. The very top of /var/log/dmesg has the kernel debug output about the memory map. It might well tell us very quickly who

Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-10 Thread T Elcor
--- On Thu, 5/10/12, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I'm booted to Ubuntu Studio Precise, I can't reboot to > Debian, I've got > no time. On Ubuntu I've got installed: > [...snip...] Thanks, that's a lot of packages though. I was hoping for a more succinct list, just the packages I need to play mp4, avi

AWE64 Gold is Easy to Kill

2012-05-10 Thread Martin McCormick
About a year ago, I installed a SB AWE64 Gold sound card as the second sound card on a lenny system. It was rather difficult to get going and resulted in a few questions to this list, etc, but I finally got it running which in the Linux world means that you get a SB16 out of it which is oka

Re: Only 3.6gb of 64gb RAM recognized by 64bit squeeze

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 21:30 +0200, Seyyed Mohtadin Hashemi wrote: > As it is now, only memtest and BIOS can recognize all 64GB RAM. Again, 32-bit PAE ;)? Unfortunately I couldn't find a live media with a PAE. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "

Installing vimoutliner in wheezy?

2012-05-10 Thread John L. Cunningham
Does anyone have any experience installing vimoutliner in Wheezy? I've installed the vim-vimoutliner package. I've also followed the instructions in README.Debain and used vim-addons--I actually did it for both a system-wide and user account--but I still am not able to get it to work properly.

Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 12:24 -0700, T Elcor wrote: > Hi, > > After replacing phonon-backend-xine (it's been deprecated) with > phonon-backend-gstreamer, I can only play videos in Ogg Vorbis (ogv) > format. I suspect some codecs may be missing and need to be installed > but I'm having a difficulty f

Re: Only 3.6gb of 64gb RAM recognized by 64bit squeeze

2012-05-10 Thread Seyyed Mohtadin Hashemi
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 5/10/2012 12:47 AM, Mohtadin Hashemi wrote: > > Sorry for double and top post. Pushed the wrong button. > > > > I was saying that the RAM are all Mushkin 996770, i was also going to > buy a SuperMicro board as i have very good experience w

Permissions on UNIX domain sockets

2012-05-10 Thread B.R.
Hi, I recently encountered some permissions trouble with a UNIX domain socket. I was trying to bind Nginx on PHP-FPM that way to get rid of the TCP socket usually used. PHP-FPM spawned its socket with its user/group set up in its configuration file. I had: - User: www-data - Group: www-data - Mod

Re: how to safely remove an acl: user_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t

2012-05-10 Thread Berni Elbourn
On 10/05/12 19:59, Berni Elbourn wrote: On 10/05/12 18:43, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:40:05 +0100, Berni Elbourn wrote: (...) $ sudo setfacl -b /home/manager.gwcc/ $ ls -lZd /home/manager.gwcc/ drwxr-x---. 2 manager.gwcc e-manager user_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t 4096 ^ (...) Th

Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-10 Thread T Elcor
Hi, After replacing phonon-backend-xine (it's been deprecated) with phonon-backend-gstreamer, I can only play videos in Ogg Vorbis (ogv) format. I suspect some codecs may be missing and need to be installed but I'm having a difficulty finding them. Any ideas? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: data recovery tools for debian (command line)

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 23:54 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > All those tools for ext3 come with patches, they are usable for ext4, > > theoretically. In practice 99% of your data will be lost. > > > > I still have 2 unmounted ext4 partitions since December 2011. I nearly > > couldn't recover

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Indulekha
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 08:01:51PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 12:32 -0500, Indulekha wrote: > > > -- > > > Patageometry, n.: > > > The study of those mathematical properties that are invariant > > > under brain transplants. > > > http://chubig.net

Re: how to safely remove an acl: user_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t

2012-05-10 Thread Berni Elbourn
On 10/05/12 18:43, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:40:05 +0100, Berni Elbourn wrote: (...) $ sudo setfacl -b /home/manager.gwcc/ $ ls -lZd /home/manager.gwcc/ drwxr-x---. 2 manager.gwcc e-manager user_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t 4096 ^ (...) The final dot catched my atten

Re: data recovery tools for debian (command line)

2012-05-10 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
sorry ignore the last paragraph it was due to Email-Draft in Google. Thanks. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > Thanks, Ralf and all, you guys have given me a solid info to study on. > > Thanks > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: >> On Thu, 20

Re: data recovery tools for debian (command line)

2012-05-10 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Thanks, Ralf and all, you guys have given me a solid info to study on. Thanks On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 17:32 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: >> > For what file systems? >> >> any, ext2, 3 or 4 . just asked in general perspective. so instead

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 12:32 -0500, Indulekha wrote: > > -- > > Patageometry, n.: > > The study of those mathematical properties that are invariant > > under brain transplants. > > http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 > > > Actually, depending on the editor

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 18:57 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 10/05/12 18:25, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > And what is the benefit of this on an open mailing list? > > To ensure that somebody called or didn't call somebody else names, gave > > right or wrong information? IMO this is infantile. Don't

Re: Only 3.6gb of 64gb RAM recognized by 64bit squeeze

2012-05-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/10/2012 12:47 AM, Mohtadin Hashemi wrote: > Sorry for double and top post. Pushed the wrong button. > > I was saying that the RAM are all Mushkin 996770, i was also going to buy a > SuperMicro board as i have very good experience with those but i had to wait > 1 mo th for it, time that i do

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 10/05/12 18:25, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > And what is the benefit of this on an open mailing list? > To ensure that somebody called or didn't call somebody else names, gave > right or wrong information? IMO this is infantile. Don't get me wrong! > I'm not against signing, if other people wish to do.

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 10 May 2012 19:18:53 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:07 +, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2012 > 17:45:22 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >> > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:14 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> >> Alternatively, should I just ignore the signature, in wh

Re: Things we should know about PGP

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
The Signature from someone else: "Confidence is what you have before you understand a problem" - Woody Allen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/133667150

Re: Things we should know about PGP

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 17:11 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 09:17:17PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Regarding to security. Assumed somebody always sign the mails to a > > mailing list. Isn't it possible that somebody hacks the view of a > > mailing list archive? Make it look l

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 10 May 2012 19:18:53 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hello Ralf, > Exactly and this is valid for the majority on mailing lists. True, but that's not the point. I always PGP sign list mail because it shows a single source, making it harder for somebody to spoof as me on the list. > Btw. funn

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:32:25 +0100 Tony van der Hoff wrote: Hello Tony, > What is the benefit of such a signature? Read Roger Leigh's message on just that subject. It explains things well. No point in me saying the same thing again. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvi

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 10 May 2012 16:39:49 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: Hello Camaleón, > Enigmail does it with no user intervention. I don't use Enigmail, but I'd place a small wager that it can be set up to either pull public keys automatically or manually. What the default is, IDK. -- Regards _

Re: how to safely remove an acl: user_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t

2012-05-10 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:40:05 +0100, Berni Elbourn wrote: (...) > $ sudo setfacl -b /home/manager.gwcc/ > $ ls -lZd /home/manager.gwcc/ > drwxr-x---. 2 manager.gwcc e-manager user_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t 4096 ^ (...) The final dot catched my attention :-) Check if this helps t

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Indulekha
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 07:25:39PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 18:40 +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: > > Hello Tony, > > > > Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > > What is the benefit of such a signature? > > > > Those who know him now can verify the signature. In addition, if at > >

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Indulekha
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 06:40:42PM +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: > Hello Tony, > > Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > What is the benefit of such a signature? > > Those who know him now can verify the signature. In addition, if at > any later stage someone else claims to have posted this message, the >

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:07 +, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:45:22 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:14 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > >> Alternatively, should I just ignore the signature, in which case why is > >> the sender polluting the list with useless

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 18:40 +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: > Hello Tony, > > Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > What is the benefit of such a signature? > > Those who know him now can verify the signature. In addition, if at > any later stage someone else claims to have posted this message, the > OP can

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 17:32 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > So, the OP signs his mail to a list. I would guess that no web of trust > exists between him and 99.9% of the list members. +1 That's what I try to explain. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a su

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:59:41 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 10/05/12 17:54, Camaleón wrote: >> >> you don't have to do nothing > > A double negative, Camaleón? ;) In Spanish sounded good O:-) > You have to do something? Configure Enigmail. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Debian Administrator's Handbook

2012-05-10 Thread Lars Noodén
On 5/10/12 7:41 PM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: [snip] > Hello, Alberto, and thank you again, Lars; I've been forwarding the link > to all I think would be interested. [snip] Again, the sum of my contribution was to stumble across the link and post it to the list. regards, /Lars -- To UNSUBSCR

destination port changes every time

2012-05-10 Thread abdelkader belahcene
*Hi, I wrote a client/server programs, the server listen on port 5000 and of course the client connected on that port , I check the communication via the sniffex.c program from pcap (adapting something) , I noticed that destination port ( used by the client) is not always the same and compl

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 10/05/12 17:54, Camaleón wrote: > > you don't have to do nothing A double negative, Camaleón? ;) You have to do something? -- Tony van der Hoff| mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org Buckinghamshire, England | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subjec

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:42:55 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 10/05/12 17:39, Camaleón wrote: >> On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:18:04 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 10 May 2012 16:03:56 + (UTC) Camaleón >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Camaleón, >>> On Thu, 10 May 2012 16:14:12 +0100, Ton

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 10/05/12 17:40, Claudius Hubig wrote: > Hello Tony, > > However, you are absolutely free to ignore the signature if it is of > no value to you and most clients will even hide it by default (or > show a small button). Thunderbird doesn't appear to. However, having activated enigmail, and linke

Dynamic Traffic Shaping

2012-05-10 Thread John A. Sullivan III
Hello, all. This thread is response to this exchange with Alberto about the new and fabulous Debian Adminstrator's handbook: > I went to the > > http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.quality-of-service.html > > page simply because it was an area where I had done a lot of work lately > >

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 10/05/12 17:39, Camaleón wrote: > On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:18:04 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > >> On Thu, 10 May 2012 16:03:56 + (UTC) Camaleón >> wrote: >> >> Hello Camaleón, >> >>> On Thu, 10 May 2012 16:14:12 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: Am I expected to go to some keyserver to find

Re: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux

2012-05-10 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 10 May 2012 14:18:37 +0100, Lists wrote in message <4fabc02d.8080...@coffeehabit.net>: > On 09/05/2012 23:22, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > ..exactly _what_ should it do for you? > > > > > > ..after that, you'll be ready for the _how_. > > I know the what and why of what I'm doing. Why d

..neat wee litigation trap, was: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux

2012-05-10 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:42:36 +0100, Jon wrote in message <20120510104236.GL8272@debian>: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:22:35AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Wed, 9 May 2012 19:18:28 +0100, Jon wrote in message > > <20120509181828.GG8272@debian>: > > > > > On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 07:07:51PM +

Re: Debian Administrator's Handbook

2012-05-10 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 15:59 +0200, Alberto Fuentes wrote: > On 10/05/12 15:47, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:21 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > >> The Debian Administrator's Handbook is available for sale and download: > >> > >>http://debian-handbook.info/ > >> > >> Regar

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Tony, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > What is the benefit of such a signature? Those who know him now can verify the signature. In addition, if at any later stage someone else claims to have posted this message, the OP can prove that it was indeed him who posted it. Everybody else interested in

how to safely remove an acl: user_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t

2012-05-10 Thread Berni Elbourn
I was tidying up some old accounts on an squeeze system today and noticed this one home directory has a full stop in the permissions: $ ls -ld /home/manager.gwcc/ drwxr-x---. 2 manager.gwcc e-manager 4096 May 10 17:26 /home/manager.gwcc/ Seems this is an acl: $ ls -lZd /home/manager.gwcc/ drwx

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:18:04 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 10 May 2012 16:03:56 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > > Hello Camaleón, > >> On Thu, 10 May 2012 16:14:12 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> > Am I expected to go to some keyserver to find the sender's public >> > key? >> It should

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 10/05/12 17:16, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:59:34 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Hello Ralf, > >> This resulted in "Valid signature, but cannot verify sender (Phil >> Dobbin )": > > Because there's no web of trust involving people that both you and the > keyholder know. > S

Re: Debian Administrator's Handbook

2012-05-10 Thread Lars Noodén
On 5/10/12 7:10 PM, Adrian Fita wrote: > On 10/05/12 16:21, Lars Noodén wrote: >> The Debian Administrator's Handbook is available for sale and download: >> >> http://debian-handbook.info/ >> >> Regards, >> /Lars > > Thank you for this awesome contribution to the community good sir! > My con

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:59:34 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hello Ralf, > This resulted in "Valid signature, but cannot verify sender (Phil > Dobbin )": Because there's no web of trust involving people that both you and the keyholder know. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvi

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 10 May 2012 16:03:56 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: Hello Camaleón, > On Thu, 10 May 2012 16:14:12 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > Am I expected to go to some keyserver to find the sender's public > > key? > It should be done automatically. Only if GPG is set up to do so. Otherwise ma

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 05:59:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:55 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 05:49:12PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:45 +0100, Phil Dobbin wrote: > > > With Evolution I can't. I need your keyserver and

Re: Things we should know about PGP

2012-05-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 09:17:17PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Regarding to security. Assumed somebody always sign the mails to a > mailing list. Isn't it possible that somebody hacks the view of a > mailing list archive? Make it look like if a nice guy said odd things > for signed mails. He never

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:45:22 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:14 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> Alternatively, should I just ignore the signature, in which case why is >> the sender polluting the list with useless crap? > > That's the problem. (...) And what's _what you

Re: Debian Administrator's Handbook

2012-05-10 Thread Adrian Fita
On 10/05/12 16:21, Lars Noodén wrote: > The Debian Administrator's Handbook is available for sale and download: > > http://debian-handbook.info/ > > Regards, > /Lars Thank you for this awesome contribution to the community good sir! -- Fita Adrian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-us

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 10 May 2012 16:14:12 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > So, this message was signed. > > Having recently installed enigmail, to see what all the fuss is about in > the other thread. I find I'm at a loss to understand how to interpret > this. (...) > A093C263 gpg: Can't check signature: p

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:55 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 05:49:12PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:45 +0100, Phil Dobbin wrote: > > > On 10/05/12 16:14, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > > > > > > So, this message was signed. > > > > > > > > Having recen

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:14 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Alternatively, should I just ignore the signature, in which case why > is the sender polluting the list with useless crap? That's the problem. For Evolution all mails look ok. Below some mails there's a button that notifies me, when an

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 05:49:12PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:45 +0100, Phil Dobbin wrote: > > On 10/05/12 16:14, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > > > > So, this message was signed. > > > > > > Having recently installed enigmail, to see what all the fuss is about > > > in t

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:45 +0100, Phil Dobbin wrote: > On 10/05/12 16:14, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > > So, this message was signed. > > > > Having recently installed enigmail, to see what all the fuss is about > > in the other thread. I find I'm at a loss to understand how to > > interpret thi

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 10/05/12 16:45, Phil Dobbin wrote: > On 10/05/12 16:14, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > >> So, this message was signed. > >> Having recently installed enigmail, to see what all the fuss is about >> in the other thread. I find I'm at a loss to understand how to >> interpret this. >>

Re: OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Phil Dobbin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/05/12 16:14, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > So, this message was signed. > > Having recently installed enigmail, to see what all the fuss is about > in the other thread. I find I'm at a loss to understand how to > interpret this. >

Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-10 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 09 May 2012 20:11:50 -0400, Whit Hansell wrote: > Sorry for the interruption but have tried to find a linux program which > will allow me to put andio files onto DVD's. I have one particular file > which is just too large to fit on a CD and so wanted to put it on a DVD > but haven't been

Re: screwed up fonts and controls in both Iceweasel and Chromium

2012-05-10 Thread Ilya Razenshteyn
Yes, it worked. Thank you very much! On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2012-05-10 16:48 +0200, Ilya Razenshteyn wrote: > >> I have Debian Testing. On May, 9 I made an "apt-get dist-upgrade", >> which did the following updates: >> [ ... ] >> 2012-05-09 09:17:41 upgrade libc

Re: [OT] Re: Things we should know about PGP

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 14:56 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 09 May 2012 23:22:09 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 20:22 +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> What is what you understand by "dirty"? > >> > >> I can send the same spam, virus-inside or crap message with a signature >

Re: [not sure if OT] empty DVD menus with k9copy and devede

2012-05-10 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 09 May 2012 19:33:07 -0400, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > On Tuesday 08 May 2012 12:45:41 Camaleón wrote: (...) >> > Only later I realized that all my DVDs, which I "produced" since >> > then, using devede and k9copy have empty menus. That means: the >> > menufile plays in a way that I can see

Re: screwed up fonts and controls in both Iceweasel and Chromium

2012-05-10 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-05-10 16:48 +0200, Ilya Razenshteyn wrote: > I have Debian Testing. On May, 9 I made an "apt-get dist-upgrade", > which did the following updates: > [ ... ] > 2012-05-09 09:17:41 upgrade libcairo2:amd64 1.10.2-7 1.12.2-1 > 2012-05-09 09:17:42 upgrade libcairo-gobject2:amd64 1.10.2-7 1.12.2

OT: More about GPG signing

2012-05-10 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 10/05/12 15:27, Phil Dobbin wrote: > Cheers, > > Phil... So, this message was signed. Having recently installed enigmail, to see what all the fuss is about in the other thread. I find I'm at a loss to understand how to interpret this. - OpenPGP

Re: Weird warning from console-kit-daemon

2012-05-10 Thread Curt
On 2012-05-06, Sébastien Kalt wrote: > > Thank you for your answer, but I still think physical hard drive space is > not the problem. How about inodes? df -i -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.de

screwed up fonts and controls in both Iceweasel and Chromium

2012-05-10 Thread Ilya Razenshteyn
Hello. I have Debian Testing. On May, 9 I made an "apt-get dist-upgrade", which did the following updates: 2012-05-09 09:17:10 upgrade dpkg:amd64 1.16.2 1.16.3 2012-05-09 09:17:18 upgrade libgomp1:amd64 4.7.0-3 4.7.0-7 2012-05-09 09:17:20 upgrade lib32gcc1:amd64 1:4.7.0-3 1:4.7.0-7 2012-05-09 09:1

Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-05-10 Thread istimsak abdulbasir
If you are using squeeze, and it works they way you it to. Then it is best to leave it as so. I prefer Gnome2 amongst any DE:very stable and configurable. The hardware I have is capable of running Gnome3, but I need something that will run on all hardware. If it ain't broken, don't fix it. On Thu

Re: Debian Administrator's Handbook

2012-05-10 Thread Phil Dobbin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/05/12 14:21, Lars Noodén wrote: > The Debian Administrator's Handbook is available for sale and download: > > http://debian-handbook.info/ Excellent. I've been looking forward to this for a long time. Off to Lulu to get a dead tree... :

Re: how to understand

2012-05-10 Thread lina
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: > About the second one, which program are you using? For example, > lm-sensors reports also the allowed temperature ranges. It's # sensors TB0T: +31.0°C TB1T: +31.0°C TB2T: +30.2°C TC0C: +50.2°C TC0D:

Re: Debian Administrator's Handbook

2012-05-10 Thread Alberto Fuentes
On 10/05/12 15:47, John A. Sullivan III wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:21 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: The Debian Administrator's Handbook is available for sale and download: http://debian-handbook.info/ Regards, /Lars What a great contribution. Thank you. I went to the http://debian

Re: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux

2012-05-10 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 02:43:37PM +0100, Lists wrote: > Is Time Slider a feature for ZFS or (Open)Solaris? It seems to be > the latter. It is a feature of ZFS native. It's available in the http://zfsonlinux.org project. -- . o . o . o . . o o . . . o . . . o . o o o . o . o o .

Re: Debian Administrator's Handbook

2012-05-10 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:21 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > The Debian Administrator's Handbook is available for sale and download: > > http://debian-handbook.info/ > > Regards, > /Lars > > What a great contribution. Thank you. I went to the http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.qua

Re: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux

2012-05-10 Thread Lists
Hi Aaron, Thanks for your thorough response. On 10/05/2012 14:14, Aaron Toponce wrote: a year or so, also with zero issues. In fact, if you use Time Slider with frequent snapshots, it becomes trivial to restore data should corruption occur. Is Time Slider a feature for ZFS or (Open)Solaris? It

Re: Debian Administrator's Handbook

2012-05-10 Thread Alberto Fuentes
On 10/05/12 15:21, Lars Noodén wrote: The Debian Administrator's Handbook is available for sale and FREE download: FTFY :) btw, awesome piece of work. Thanks to everyone that made thit possible! greets! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "uns

Re: Debian Administrator's Handbook

2012-05-10 Thread Arif Hossain
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Lars Noodén wrote: > The Debian Administrator's Handbook is available for sale and download: > >        http://debian-handbook.info/ > > Regards, > /Lars > > Wonderful piece of work . -- -aft -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org wi

Re: Allowing people to change their own IMAP password

2012-05-10 Thread Stefan Dengscherz
2012/5/9 Shaun : > Hi all, > > How does one allow Windows users to set their own passwords if the IMAP > server they're using is Debian?  In the past I've got them to login from > my computer via PuTTY where I've typed 'passwd user-name' and let them > type their own pass, but this isn't really sca

Debian Administrator's Handbook

2012-05-10 Thread Lars Noodén
The Debian Administrator's Handbook is available for sale and download: http://debian-handbook.info/ Regards, /Lars -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debi

Re: data recovery tools for debian (command line)

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 17:32 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > For what file systems? > > any, ext2, 3 or 4 . just asked in general perspective. so instead of > reading all the material on the net and filter out the garbage which > is very time consuming. so just to make my studies time effici

Re: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux

2012-05-10 Thread Lists
On 09/05/2012 19:18, Jon Dowland wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 07:07:51PM +0100, Lists wrote: I'm looking at using ZFS for a box that will serve as a storage/backup box. I'm aware of Debian/kFreeBSD, which seems to be the best solution if I want to use Debian, but it does introduce some limita

Re: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux

2012-05-10 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 07:07:51PM +0100, Lists wrote: > I'm looking at using ZFS for a box that will serve as a > storage/backup box. I'm aware of Debian/kFreeBSD, which seems to be > the best solution if I want to use Debian, but it does introduce > some limitations, so I haven't decided on it (

Re: data recovery tools for debian (command line)

2012-05-10 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 10:49 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: >> if i mistakenly delete any partition or OS or HD corrupted. what is >> the best tool that i can use to recover the data in these situations. >> >> just wanted to test this stuff

Re: Only 3.6gb of 64gb RAM recognized by 64bit squeeze

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 10:49 +0200, Seyyed Mohtadin Hashemi wrote: > > PS. I have unsubscribed from the main list and am only getting the > digest, so everyone: When replying please CC to my mail also, > otherwise You will have to wait till i get Your answer/question via > the digest. Something I

Re: data recovery tools for debian (command line)

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I now read several replies and until now nobody mentioned to FIRST OF ALL immediately REMOUNT THIS PARTITION AS R E A D ONLY ! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.d

Re: data recovery tools for debian (command line)

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 10:49 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > if i mistakenly delete any partition or OS or HD corrupted. what is > the best tool that i can use to recover the data in these situations. > > just wanted to test this stuff in my test environment. > > note : i work with command li

Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 11:04 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > PS. It's also possible to add music tracks to a video DVD but I don't > know how to do it. *chuckle* It's said DVDs are for silent films only ;). So they are for sound films too? To be serious: Some (perhaps all) consumer DVD players can

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