Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-27 Thread Merciadri Luca
godo wrote: > On 08/27/2010 09:02 PM, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Months ago, I looked for an advanced video editor for Debian. Here is > > what I found: > > > > * PiTiVi: I can't make it work once installed. Many buttons are > missing. > > I can't understand it. Maybe it's too simple for

I can't see my /etc/ldap/slapd.conf file after upgrade testing

2010-08-27 Thread Eric KOM
Hi! I'm trying to solve this problem but not result. After upgrade testing, I can't fund the /etc/ldap/sdapd.conf but the server is still running. Thank you in advance -- Yours truly, Eric KOM 110 LAWN STREET ROSETTENVILLE 2190 JOHANNESBURG SOUTH AFRICA Phone: +27 (0) 788 791 334 Fax: +27 (0)

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-27 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 8/27/2010 9:52 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=594512 > > I just updates most gross errors in CVS so updated page will show up > soon. Ah yes. The page should describe more of why aptitude vs apt-get, and let the user decide. -- . O . O . O . . O

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-27 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 09:54:54AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:27:58PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 06:23:56PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > > > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkgtools.en.html#s-aptitude > > > > This needs updat

My bad (was: The NAME environment variable)

2010-08-27 Thread T o n g
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 03:06:01 +0200, godo wrote: >> This is the first time that I found the NAME variable missing from the >> environment. How common is this? My bad, it was my invention that I've long forgot. > my Squeeze and Sid box also doesnt have NAME in env. Maybe this script > can help yo

Re: Do apt-get and aptitude know each other's records

2010-08-27 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 09:06:39AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 26 Aug 2010, T o n g wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:21:02 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > > > Old information may not be valiad for new apt-get :-) > > > > > > You may see change in release note: > > > http://bugs.debian.or

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-27 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:36:52PM +, T o n g wrote: > On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:30:30 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > >> To hold a Debian package not to be updated by apt-get > >> > >> echo $package hold | dpkg --set-selections > >> > >> Please note that such holding will not work for aptitude.

Re: What is Recommend CLI Package Manager Tool for Newb?

2010-08-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On 08/27/2010 02:24 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In<1282920166.29761.13.ca...@huevos>, Chance Platt wrote: I say pick one and stick to it. Apt and aptitude are close to parity feature-wise anymore (I'm sure others will disagree and it depends on how you define "features") and there's some

text formatting tool that can produce output like ls(1)?

2010-08-27 Thread Zhang Weiwu
The output of "ls" is pretty good because: 1. It calculate column width from widest columns. 2. It knows one Chinese ideograph is two letters wide. 3. It aligns columns by flexible space character instead of tab Is there a text formatting command that formats text like "ls" while take us

Re: The NAME environment variable

2010-08-27 Thread godo
On 08/28/2010 02:42 AM, T o n g wrote: Hi, The NAME environment variable is very important to my script, but in one Debian derivative distro (,, Ubuntu), I found such variable does not exist: $ env | grep ^NAME || echo no found no found This is the first time that I found the NAME variable

Re: The NAME environment variable

2010-08-27 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010, T o n g wrote: Hi, The NAME environment variable is very important to my script, but in one Debian derivative distro (, , Ubuntu), I found such variable does not exist: $ env | grep ^NAME || echo no found no found This is the first time that I found the NAME variable miss

Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-27 Thread godo
Have you tried http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ for cinelera -- Alexander J. Martinez Debian GNU/Linux unstable (sid) Linux 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Thu Aug 12 13:38:27 UTC 2010 GNU/Linux Once, but figured that it is for more advanced editing that I need. -- Bye, Goran Dobosevic Hrvatski: www.d

Re: The NAME environment variable

2010-08-27 Thread Mike Castle
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:42 PM, T o n g wrote: > This is the first time that I found the NAME variable missing from the > environment. How common is this? Not present on my Debian/testing system. I have USER, USERNAME and LOGNAME, but no NAME. mrc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-27 Thread ajm
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 01:26:16AM +0200, godo wrote: > On 08/27/2010 09:02 PM, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Months ago, I looked for an advanced video editor for Debian. Here is > > what I found: > > > > * PiTiVi: I can't make it work once installed. Many buttons are missing. > > I can't

Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-27 Thread godo
On 08/27/2010 09:02 PM, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Hi, > > Months ago, I looked for an advanced video editor for Debian. Here is > what I found: > > * PiTiVi: I can't make it work once installed. Many buttons are missing. > I can't understand it. Maybe it's too simple for me (I tend to > misunderstan

Re: Get a list of obsoleted packages

2010-08-27 Thread Alain Baeckeroot
Le 27/08/2010 à 17:04, T o n g a écrit : > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:48:58 +0200, Alain Baeckeroot wrote: > > >> I use to get the list of obsoleted packages using aptitude. . . > >> > > obsolete = not up to date = need to be upgraded > > who told you that? rtfm Alain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: Tell Ubuntu and Debian apart in a shell script ...

2010-08-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On 08/27/2010 03:28 AM, Alexey Salmin wrote: [snip] think it's a good idea to check for some specific functionality you need in your script rather than rely a on distribution name from some file in /etc. This is Best Practices when writing a web page: check for functionality, not whether it's

Re: Is Iceape v2.06 on testing having problems?

2010-08-27 Thread godo
On 08/27/2010 08:37 PM, AG wrote: Hi all Using Iceape 2.0.6 as my default browser on Debian testing: Pages are taking a while to fully resolve, connection look up is slow and DNS connections are slow as well. Have eliminated my Net access as an issue via ping and experimenting with Opera and I

Re: Setting default GNOME settings with XDG_DATA_DIRS

2010-08-27 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 22:27 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:54:51 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 17:46 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > >> On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 21:32 +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> > Before I'm going nuts with all these dirs ;-),

Re: Setting default GNOME settings with XDG_DATA_DIRS

2010-08-27 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:54:51 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 17:46 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: >> On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 21:32 +, Camaleón wrote: >> > Before I'm going nuts with all these dirs ;-), try to set your common >> > path to both "XDG_DATA_HOME" and "

Re: Setting default GNOME settings with XDG_DATA_DIRS

2010-08-27 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 17:46 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 21:32 +, Camaleón wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:50:56 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 13:15 +, Camaleón wrote: > > > > >> That was just intended to check your setu

Re: Setting default GNOME settings with XDG_DATA_DIRS

2010-08-27 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 21:32 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:50:56 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > > On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 13:15 +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> That was just intended to check your setup. > >> > >> If that works, then something is missing at your side. If tha

Re: Mailing list protocol

2010-08-27 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 01:30:27AM +, s. keeling wrote: > > slrn beats 'em all. Bravo, we can subscribe to a mailing list and read > it with a newsreader. Yay. Real newsreaders and mail user agents > don't fsck up the quoting (above fixed manually :-). I've used slrn for years for newsgro

Re: What is Recommend CLI Package Manager Tool for Newb?

2010-08-27 Thread Charlie
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:23:20 -0500 Tom Browder shared this with us all: >Is there a consensus? Certainly. In Debian the consensus is always what you think sounds best to you, tried and tested by yourself, and then use because it's best for you. When people ask a similar question on the list -

/usr/hsare/dict/words

2010-08-27 Thread Aaron Toponce
Why isn't /usr/share/dict/words managed by alternatives? Why does it point to /etc/dictionaries-common/words which in turn points back to /usr/share/dict/american-english (for me)? Wouldn't the alternatives system be perfect for this? Just curious. Thanks, -- . O . O . O . . O O . . . O .

Re: Setting default GNOME settings with XDG_DATA_DIRS

2010-08-27 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:50:56 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 13:15 +, Camaleón wrote: >> That was just intended to check your setup. >> >> If that works, then something is missing at your side. If that also >> fail, then you could open a bug report. > Yes, indeed,

Re: Setting default GNOME settings with XDG_DATA_DIRS

2010-08-27 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 15:50 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 13:15 +, Camaleón wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:14:39 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 06:45 +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> (...) > > >> > > >> Does it work if you place

Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2010 27 Aug 14:05 -0500, Merciadri Luca wrote: > * OpenShot: Looks nice, but packages are for Ubuntu. I might consider > compiling this one from source (but dependencies problems will be > tedious to solve); Openshot is in Squeeze and Sid as native packages now. Of course that doesn't help i

Re: Mailing list protocol

2010-08-27 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 08/27/2010 01:16 AM, Celejar wrote: > Or use Sylpheed, where you can subscribe to a newsgroup and read it > with an MUA ... ... or use Icedove/Thunderbird for reading not only news://, but RSS as well as mail. -- . O . O . O . . O O . . . O . . . O . O O O . O . O O . . O O O

Re: Get a list of obsoleted packages

2010-08-27 Thread Javier Vasquez
On 8/27/10, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <201008271648.59327.alain.baecker...@laposte.net>, Alain Baeckeroot > wrote: >>Le 27/08/2010 à 16:35, T o n g a écrit : >>> I use to get the list of obsoleted packages using aptitude. Now that I'm >>> planning to remove aptitude, what are the alternat

Re: Setting default GNOME settings with XDG_DATA_DIRS

2010-08-27 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 13:15 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:14:39 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > > On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 06:45 +, Camaleón wrote: > >> (...) > >> > >> Does it work if you place the "defaults.list" file in "~/.local/share/ > >> applications"? > > > I di

Re: Problems on Lenny with Lexmark s605 AIO

2010-08-27 Thread Lisi
On Friday 27 August 2010 18:07:15 Camaleón wrote: > IIRC, Lexmark has expressly support for linux systems so I would try to > contact them, which on the other hand, could be a nice experience > provided that talking with tech support for linux issues is not a very > common task on these days :-) D

Re: Get a list of obsoleted packages

2010-08-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <201008271648.59327.alain.baecker...@laposte.net>, Alain Baeckeroot wrote: >Le 27/08/2010 à 16:35, T o n g a écrit : >> I use to get the list of obsoleted packages using aptitude. Now that I'm >> planning to remove aptitude, what are the alternatives? > >obsolete = not up to date = need to be up

Re: What is Recommend CLI Package Manager Tool for Newb?

2010-08-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <1282920166.29761.13.ca...@huevos>, Chance Platt wrote: >I say pick one and stick to it. Apt and aptitude are close to parity >feature-wise anymore (I'm sure others will disagree and it depends on >how you define "features") and there's some disagreement if aptitude >really is the better choice

Locked up Gnome

2010-08-27 Thread Frank
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Went into Gnome on my Squeeze machine this morning for the first time in a while (I normally use IceWm or Fluxbox). Had to go out so I switched off the monitor with the Gnome desktop up. A couple of hours later I came back to a locked-up machine.

Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-27 Thread Merciadri Luca
Hi, Months ago, I looked for an advanced video editor for Debian. Here is what I found: * PiTiVi: I can't make it work once installed. Many buttons are missing. I can't understand it. Maybe it's too simple for me (I tend to misunderstand simple things, seriously)! * Cinelerra: Nice, but there is

Is Iceape v2.06 on testing having problems?

2010-08-27 Thread AG
Hi all Using Iceape 2.0.6 as my default browser on Debian testing: Pages are taking a while to fully resolve, connection look up is slow and DNS connections are slow as well. Have eliminated my Net access as an issue via ping and experimenting with Opera and Iceweasel. I googled the issue

Re: network wl card is not dtected as it, is it a bios problem?

2010-08-27 Thread Kevin Ross
On 08/27/2010 11:40 AM, Kevin Ross wrote: On 08/27/2010 04:00 AM, abdelkader belahcene wrote: hi, I added to my machine PC P4, running debian and others, ubuntu, pc wireless card :, the same card I used it on other machine, it ran nice. On my machine, the lspci gives : 03:02.0 Class ff

Re: network wl card is not dtected as it, is it a bios problem?

2010-08-27 Thread Kevin Ross
On 08/27/2010 04:00 AM, abdelkader belahcene wrote: hi, I added to my machine PC P4, running debian and others, ubuntu, pc wireless card :, the same card I used it on other machine, it ran nice. On my machine, the lspci gives : 03:02.0 Class : RaLink rt2561/rt61 802.11g pci (rev ff

Re: ftp root password

2010-08-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Jordon Bedwell put forth on 8/26/2010 11:27 PM: > On 8/26/2010 11:25 PM, J.H.Kim wrote: >> Hi, everyone >> >> My root password, for exmple, is 1234. >> When I do ftp to my debian, the password 1234 for root account is not >> permitted. >> Other user account is well operated with ftp. >> >> How can

Re: Problems on Lenny with Lexmark s605 AIO

2010-08-27 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:52:50 +0100, Lisi wrote: (...) > 1) The printer/scanner is busy, waiting until it finishes. But it never > finishes. Or: > > 2) I/O problem. printer/scanner not responding. (...) > Any other ideas what I could try? IIRC, Lexmark has expressly support for linux syste

Re: network wl card is not dtected as it, is it a bios problem?

2010-08-27 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:00:11 +0200, abdelkader belahcene wrote: > I installed the divers firmware-ralink and other realtek . and > network-manager, but nothing. > on other machine, that was enough to run it correctly. (...) Check that you already have installed the required firmware for t

Re: expand (1) not useful enough. How about expandest?

2010-08-27 Thread Zhang Weiwu
On 2010年08月26日 11:02, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > I always want a tool that: > > * Check the whole data file, for each column, find the widest cell. > * expand the data file, use widest cell for each column. > * it should know one ideograph counts two characters wide. > With awk it also can

Problems on Lenny with Lexmark s605 AIO

2010-08-27 Thread Lisi
I am having this problem with someone else's computer and AIO, and they are 11 miles away, so I cannot easily test just one thing out, and am having to ask all questions form memory. I have downloaded and installed the driver from Lexmark. The tool box is there, and CUPS has installed the prin

Re: Get a list of obsoleted packages

2010-08-27 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-08-27 16:35 +0200, T o n g wrote: > I use to get the list of obsoleted packages using aptitude. Now that I'm > planning to remove aptitude, what are the alternatives? Why do you want to remove aptitude? Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a sub

Re: Get a list of obsoleted packages

2010-08-27 Thread Alain Baeckeroot
Le 27/08/2010 à 16:35, T o n g a écrit : > > Hi, > > I use to get the list of obsoleted packages using aptitude. Now that I'm > planning to remove aptitude, what are the alternatives? > obsolete = not up to date = need to be upgraded => apt-get update # update the package info

Re: What is Recommend CLI Package Manager Tool for Newb?

2010-08-27 Thread Chance Platt
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 07:23 -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I have to say I'm getting confused. I'm in the middle of setting up > my first Debian server (which used to be Ubuntu). > > I will be administering it remotely and would like to use the best > tool for the job. > > Now I read conflicting o

Re: What is Recommend CLI Package Manager Tool for Newb?

2010-08-27 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 27 Aug 2010, Tom Browder wrote: > I have to say I'm getting confused. I'm in the middle of setting up > my first Debian server (which used to be Ubuntu). > > I will be administering it remotely and would like to use the best > tool for the job. > > Now I read conflicting opinions from experi

Re: What is Recommend CLI Package Manager Tool for Newb?

2010-08-27 Thread T o n g
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:33:19 +0400, Roman Khomasuridze wrote: >> I will be administering it remotely and would like to use the best tool >> for the job. >> >> Now I read conflicting opinions from experienced people about apt-*, >> aptitude, and wajit. >> >> Is there a consensus? consensus? I wish

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 07:09:04PM +, T o n g wrote: > Hi, > > I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to > do so? > > I read [1] that it is not a good idea. > Please comment. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/07/maillist.html -- "Religion is excel

Re: What is Recommend CLI Package Manager Tool for Newb?

2010-08-27 Thread Alain Baeckeroot
Le 27/08/2010 à 14:23, Tom Browder a écrit : > > I have to say I'm getting confused. I'm in the middle of setting up > my first Debian server (which used to be Ubuntu). > > I will be administering it remotely and would like to use the best > tool for the job. > > Now I read conflicting opinion

Re: What is Recommend CLI Package Manager Tool for Newb?

2010-08-27 Thread Roman Khomasuridze
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Tom Browder wrote: > I have to say I'm getting confused. I'm in the middle of setting up > my first Debian server (which used to be Ubuntu). > > I will be administering it remotely and would like to use the best > tool for the job. > > Now I read conflicting opi

What is Recommend CLI Package Manager Tool for Newb?

2010-08-27 Thread Tom Browder
I have to say I'm getting confused. I'm in the middle of setting up my first Debian server (which used to be Ubuntu). I will be administering it remotely and would like to use the best tool for the job. Now I read conflicting opinions from experienced people about apt-*, aptitude, and wajit. I

network wl card is not dtected as it, is it a bios problem?

2010-08-27 Thread abdelkader belahcene
hi, I added to my machine PC P4, running debian and others, ubuntu, pc wireless card :, the same card I used it on other machine, it ran nice. On my machine, the lspci gives : 03:02.0 Class : RaLink rt2561/rt61 802.11g pci (rev ff) On the other machinei have * Ethernet Controller*

Re: aptitude vs aptitude ncurses behaviour

2010-08-27 Thread Javier Barroso
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-08-27 11:14 +0200, Javier Barroso wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> do you know why aptitude want to install and remove package from >> ncurses but not from command line? > > This can happen if you had requested actions (even on the commandline)

Re: aptitude vs aptitude ncurses behaviour

2010-08-27 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-08-27 11:14 +0200, Javier Barroso wrote: > Hi, > > do you know why aptitude want to install and remove package from > ncurses but not from command line? This can happen if you had requested actions (even on the commandline) that failed for some reason. While "aptitude safe-upgrade" or ev

Re: USB Failures in Squeeze from Lenny upgrade

2010-08-27 Thread Christoph Fritz
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 21:59 -0400, GhostlyDeath wrote: > ohci_hcd :03:05.1: Unlink after no-IRQ? Controller > is probably using the wrong IRQ. hi, could you test a recent kernel version? thanks, -- Christoph Fritz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Now lost boot dir

2010-08-27 Thread Peter Teunissen
On 26 aug 2010, at 20:39, d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: > All of the data (except for the boot dir which was not in LVM) should be > perfectly intact. > I need a live CD which supports LVM (Knoppix 5.* does not) which will mount > these volumes. > From there, I can either copy off needed data to an

Re: aptitude vs aptitude ncurses behaviour

2010-08-27 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi, On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Javier Barroso wrote: > > All this is because I want to install php5 and apache from testing, so I have just remembered this is a php5 customized (with oracle support) instance, so it is not applicable to debian. Maybe a clean upgrade from php5 from lenny t

aptitude vs aptitude ncurses behaviour

2010-08-27 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi, do you know why aptitude want to install and remove package from ncurses but not from command line? My history: aptitude -> ncurses -> u -> U -> g To be freed 44 MB, To be downloaded 1795kB to be removed because there are not used any more -

Re: Tell Ubuntu and Debian apart in a shell script ...

2010-08-27 Thread Alexey Salmin
Debian vs Ubuntu is not the same as Debian vs say RedHat. Sometimes it's hard to tell them apart even by hand because you can easily mix deb packages between them if you want. It can be Debian with package X from Ubuntu. Or it can be Knoppix dist-upgraded to Debian. Generally I think it's a good id

Re: Do apt-get and aptitude know each other's records

2010-08-27 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 26 Aug 2010, T o n g wrote: > On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:21:02 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > Old information may not be valiad for new apt-get :-) > > > > You may see change in release note: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=411280 > > On reading above, I think it is time for

Re: Debian updates worth to follow as a normal user

2010-08-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , s. keeling wrote: >Joe : >> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: >> > s. keeling wrote: >> >> T o n g : >> >>> Where is the recommended place to read about Debian updates >> >>> that would affect end users? >> >> >> >> I think it's about this time that some jerk pipes up and says >> >> production

Re: Broken deps?

2010-08-27 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 26 Aug 2010, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > I was caught by this yesterday when I failed to spot that wajig and > apt-listbugs were going to be removed. I even contemplated installing > aptitude but that isn't possible either. But, as others here have said, > it will probably be fixed in a few da

Re: Mailing list protocol

2010-08-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <4c774786.8010...@familyross.net>, Kevin Ross wrote: > On 8/25/2010 11:27 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: >> I don't know anyone who gets irritated by seeing the usenet quoting >> style. > >Joel Spolsky does. > >http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/BuildingCommunitieswithSo.html In all fairness, h

Re: Looking for a free SMTP service that does not filter outgoing messages

2010-08-27 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:05:26 +0300 Andrei Popescu wrote: > Hi everyone, > > If this sounds like I want to send spam, then you're right :) > > This is about reporting list spam according to > http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam#MethodstoNominateSpamfortheReview-Process > >

Re: Mailing list protocol

2010-08-27 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:30:27 + (UTC) "s. keeling" wrote: ... > slrn beats 'em all. Bravo, we can subscribe to a mailing list and read > it with a newsreader. Yay. Real newsreaders and mail user agents > don't fsck up the quoting (above fixed manually :-). Or use Sylpheed, where you can

Re: Mailing list protocol

2010-08-27 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:37:29 +0300 Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > > noela...@gmail.com : > >> In Kmail, and probably some other MUAs, you can select the text first > >> and then hit reply, and only the selected section will be quoted. > >Yep. "Pan" (a nntp newsreader) has such option. > > S

Looking for a free SMTP service that does not filter outgoing messages

2010-08-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
Hi everyone, If this sounds like I want to send spam, then you're right :) This is about reporting list spam according to http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam#MethodstoNominateSpamfortheReview-Process Currently I'm using Gmail as relayhost, but they also filter outgoing mail