Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread thib
Charles Kroeger wrote: My question was since this backup is on an ext3 formatted USB stick, if my hard drive was reformatted with ext4, could the backup [image] on the USB stick be 'copied' back to the new ext4 partition, without problems, as it were. If that software is filesystem agnostic, it

RE: Wireless Encryption (was Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network)

2010-07-10 Thread John Frankish
> On 07/10/2010 12:49 AM, John Frankish wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I just installed NetworkManager and started to use it with > > wired/wireless connections. > > > > Things work fine with the wired connection, but although > > NetworkManager displays several available wireless networks, it will > > n

RE: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network

2010-07-10 Thread John Frankish
> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 07:49:41 +0200, John Frankish wrote: > > > I just installed NetworkManager and started to use it with > > wired/wireless connections. > > > > Things work fine with the wired connection, but although > > NetworkManager displays several available wireless networks, it will not

Re: Debian Network install disk doesn't find NIC

2010-07-10 Thread Charles Kroeger
>https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/>Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4 Ok, thanks for this link, I think I can work something out. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debi

Re: A "magical" HDD formatting question.

2010-07-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 10 July 2010 02:43:28 Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Boyd: > > pivot_root is supposed to do this in a way that allows you to umount > > the old '/' cleanly. It is used in modern initramfs. > > I think I this is what I was looking for. > But did You have any exp

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread Charles Kroeger
>Are you saying you took a copy of the partition using something like dd >if=/dev/sdXy of=/mnt/removeable-media/a-file-on this-media or did you >just copy the files? Thanks for your interesting suggestions; however, they reflect a considerable knowledge. In my case, I'm using a proprietary ima

newly installed KDE: don't want Nautilus window when USB memory inserted

2010-07-10 Thread H.S.
On a newly installed KDE on a Testing system, I notice that when I connect a USB flash stick memory, it automatically opens in a Nautilus window. On the previously installed system, the Nautilus window did not open and only the removable device notifier for KDE popped up a message saying that a me

Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread thib
Bob Proulx wrote: Well... If you (and Camaleón) feel that strongly about it then discussing it here should just be a launching point to taking the discussion to upstream. Don't be shy about giving them feedback! Otherwise how will they know? I am sure they will have considered this already but

why don't scanner permissions get assigned correctly ?

2010-07-10 Thread briand
My scanner, a very old epson, shows up in dmesg: Processor EPSONGT-9700 1.03 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4 scsi 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 3 I checked /lib/udev/rules and in the libsave rules there is a match: # Epson Perfection 2450 | Epson GT-9700F | Epson Perfection 2450 P

ext3 to ext4 conversion

2010-07-10 Thread thib
Charles Kroeger wrote: My question is if the hard drive is reformatted with the ext4 file system and I re-install that 'image' [ext3 file system] will the data be corrupted? This doesn't really help, I'll assume you just want to convert your ext3 filesystem (saved in an image file) to ext4.

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread Alan Chandler
On 10/07/10 00:36, Zachary Uram wrote: I just got a 500gb Hitachi hard drive (this is my second drive, my first drive is /dev/sda). What is the best way to install this in Linux? Is it better to run ext3 or ext4? Zach <>< http://www.fidei.org><> Assuming you already have a fully working sy

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread Alan Chandler
On 10/07/10 22:28, Charles Kroeger wrote: I'm sorry I really don't understand, please define what you mean by "installing" the image. Like I have an image of the data in a partition recorded on removable media. The source of this data [hard drive] and the removable media containing the copy [i

Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Why is that strange? The official documentation for GNU projects is > > texinfo documentation. It has been this way for a very long time. > > It is strange because it would have been easy and wold not have been > taxing to have a > http://www.gnu.org/software

Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Camaleón wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > They have moved on. > > They can "move on" without hurting users >:-( Hmm... Is there something in particular that makes grub different from any other random project? Does every project need to keep every version of their history available and online fo

Re: kopete start-up default status (yahoo protocol)

2010-07-10 Thread Rares Aioanei
Thanks Andrei, but since my main machine died yesterday, I can't really do the suggested things. However, will do as soon as I get my box up'n'running. Regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread Charles Kroeger
>I'm sorry I really don't understand, please define what you mean by >"installing" the image. Like I have an image of the data in a partition recorded on removable media. The source of this data [hard drive] and the removable media containing the copy [image] of this data both reside on an ext3

Re: Upgrading from Etch to Lenny ends in SSH problems

2010-07-10 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 05:52:22PM +0200, Wouter van Vliet / Interpotential wrote: > Ok, so apparently the problem had all sorts of things to do with the host > key being blacklisted, and therefore labeled as 'compromised'. Of course one > can't SSH in anymore in such a situation. > > How to prev

Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: > I'm sorry for my misunderstanding of your relationship to this > wierdness. No problem. > And thanks for your added information that access to the > old docs is decaying as we speak. Not good, IMHO. You're welcome. Someone more familiar w

Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote: >> Tom H wrote: >> > Paul E Condon wrote: >> > > Tom H wrote: >> > >> Camaleón wrote: >> > >> >> This is the same url as the previous (grub1) manual, so as far as >> > >> >> gnu is >> > >> >> concerned, there must only be o

Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-10 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Miles Fidelman >>  wrote: >> >> >>> >>> shell>  grub-install hd0 >>> shell>  grub-install hd1 >>> >> >> With these grub-install invocations, you will not be able to boot in >> degraded mode.

Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 15:00:53 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote: >> Tom H wrote: >> > Paul E Condon wrote: >> > > Tom H wrote: >> > >> Camaleón wrote: >> > >> >> This is the same url as the previous (grub1) manual, so as far >> > >> >> as gnu is concerned, there must only be one grub..

Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Paul E Condon wrote: > Tom H wrote: > > Paul E Condon wrote: > > > Tom H wrote: > > >> Camaleón wrote: > > >> >> This is the same url as the previous (grub1) manual, so as far as gnu > > >> >> is > > >> >> concerned, there must only be one grub... > > >> > > > >> > How bad! :-( They have moved on

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread thib
Charles Kroeger wrote: If you had an image of a partition that used the ext3 file system and tried to install this image unto a freshly partitioned hard drive with an ext4 file system, would the image be destroyed or corrupted? I'm sorry I really don't understand, please define what you mean by

Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100710_155720, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Paul E Condon > wrote: > > On 20100710_103920, Tom H wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Camale?n wrote: > >> > On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:27:03 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Camale?n wro

Re: web client openvpn

2010-07-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Jesus arteche wrote: > Can anyone tell me if a web client for openvpn or another vpn server > exists...or something like a firefox plugin that makesthe user doesnt > install an aplication for using the vpn? A web client for OpenVPN doesn't really make sense to me. OpenVPN creates a system lev

Re: console: turning to the primary state.

2010-07-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Carl Johnson wrote: > Tom writes: > > Sometimes after some bad output in console... > > > >>> How I can turn such a terminal to its primary state? > >> > >> "Ctrl+C" and sometimes "Ctrl+Z". > > > > Or "reset"? 'reset' should work. It sends an escape sequence to the terminal emulator that trigge

Re: console: turning to the primary state.

2010-07-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Sthu Deus wrote: > Well. I was speaking about KDE's console (that are shown with ps > output as pts/N) and also normal console (that are shown with ps > output as ttyM). Well... I read this part: > Sometimes after some bad output in console... That often means that binary characters were sent t

web client openvpn

2010-07-10 Thread Jesus arteche
Hi guys, Can anyone tell me if a web client for openvpn or another vpn server exists...or something like a firefox plugin that makesthe user doesnt install an aplication for using the vpn? thank you very much

Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20100710_103920, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Camale?n wrote: >> > On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:27:03 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> > >> >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Camale?n wrote: >> > >> >>> But it have been desiderable to

Wireless Encryption (was Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network)

2010-07-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On 07/10/2010 12:49 AM, John Frankish wrote: Hi, I just installed NetworkManager and started to use it with wired/wireless connections. Things work fine with the wired connection, but although NetworkManager displays several available wireless networks, it will not connect. The problem is th

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread Charles Kroeger
>There's a hell lot of confusion about ext4 If you had an image of a partition that used the ext3 file system and tried to install this image unto a freshly partitioned hard drive with an ext4 file system, would the image be destroyed or corrupted? thanks, -- CK Deo Soli Debianae, Invicto, Sec

GRUB broken after upgrade on Macbook

2010-07-10 Thread Sylvain Archenault
Hello, After upgrading GRUB to 20100706, I am no more able to boot linux on my macbook. When i choose from the refit menu to boot on my linux partition,GRUB is stuck with this message : "GRUB _" I boot with a live cd and chroot to the partition to reinstall it, but it didn't help. gptsync is ha

Re: IPtables localhost redirect

2010-07-10 Thread Mart Frauenlob
On 09.07.2010 05:54, Daniele Orlando wrote: Hello guys, on my Debian 5 I'm trying to redirect the TCP traffic generated by my machine towards 127.0.0.1:5432 (PostgreSQL) to the new destination 192.168.1.113:5432. I have tried with iptables many rules, but no one seams good for the task. Any id

Re: No sound in Debian GNU/Linux Lenny 5.0.5

2010-07-10 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:34:48 -0300, Daniel Bareiro wrote: > Since yesterday I've noticed I've been without sound on Debian GNU/Linux > Lenny 5.0.5. I was using a 2.6.32-bpo.2-686 kernel. While I am not sure > if the problem was after an update, I tried connecting to pci audio card > both speakers

Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100710_103920, Tom H wrote: > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Camale?n wrote: > > On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:27:03 -0400, Tom H wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Camale?n wrote: > > > >>> But it have been desiderable to name it "GRUB2" or something like that > >>> to prevent old GRU

Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network

2010-07-10 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 07:49:41 +0200, John Frankish wrote: > I just installed NetworkManager and started to use it with > wired/wireless connections. > > Things work fine with the wired connection, but although NetworkManager > displays several available wireless networks, it will not connect. > >

Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:27:03 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Camaleón wrote: > >>> But it have been desiderable to name it "GRUB2" or something like that >>> to prevent old GRUB users to be more confused than they are now w

Re: A "magical" HDD formatting question.

2010-07-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:45 AM, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Tom: > >> You can use all of an ext4's features on an ext2/ext3 system / upgrade >> an ext2/ext3 filesystem to ext4 with tune2fs. > > And there is no any disadvantages comparing it was made w/ the > mkfs.ext4 h

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:37:36PM +0200, lee wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 07:31:51PM +0200, Klistvud wrote: > > Dne, 28. 06. 2010 18:30:42 je lee napisal(a): > > > > > >Yes, but I don't want to suspend to RAM because the point is to save > > >power, and suspend to RAM will fail when the power

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 06:02:47PM +0200, lee wrote: > > If developers are not aware of your situation, they cannot correct the > > bugs > > Still filing bug reports doesn't seem to achieve anything these days. Do you mean that, because of this … http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?subm

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 06:14:07PM +0200, lee wrote: > It's ppl using computers and running software on them; computers don't > run all by themselves, … Umm, no. Someone logging in, is a major annoyance to its real work. :-) -- Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debia

Re: DUN via bluetooth

2010-07-10 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 21:19 -0400, Celejar wrote: > Anyone have dial-up-networking over bluetooth working on Sid? In Squeeze, I use the GUI option of blueman and networkmanager, which 'just works' for me. 1. Pair phone (first time only). 2. In blueman, select the phone and then the menu option

CASO BRUNO - Imagens divulgadas pela polícia sábado, 10 de julho de 2010

2010-07-10 Thread communications_msn_cs_ptbr
Foram divulgadas nesta sexta-feira pela Polícia Civil do estado de MG, fotos que teriam sido tiradas com um celular que pertencia a Luiz Henrique Ferreira Romão, conhecido como Macarrão.As imagens mostram cenas macabras da morte de Eliza Samudio, as imagens mostram com clareza o rosto de Marc

Re: IPtables localhost redirect

2010-07-10 Thread Javier Barroso
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Daniele Orlando wrote: > Hello guys, > > on my Debian 5 I'm trying to redirect > the TCP traffic generated by my machine > towards 127.0.0.1:5432 (PostgreSQL) > to the new destination 192.168.1.113:5432. > > I have tried with iptables many rules, but no one seams go

Re: Slow signal delivery to server process with heavy I/O

2010-07-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Dallas Clement put forth on 7/9/2010 7:38 PM: > I realize this test may appear unnatural and is perhaps unrealistic, > but I would like to be able to shutdown my server gracefully within a > reasonable amount of time, no matter what kind of load it is handling. > Don't want to have to wait sever

Re: A "magical" HDD formatting question.

2010-07-10 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Tom: > You can use all of an ext4's features on an ext2/ext3 system / upgrade > an ext2/ext3 filesystem to ext4 with tune2fs. And there is no any disadvantages comparing it was made w/ the mkfs.ext4 help or tune2fs? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-re

Re: A "magical" HDD formatting question.

2010-07-10 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Boyd: > pivot_root is supposed to do this in a way that allows you to umount > the old '/' cleanly. It is used in modern initramfs. I think I this is what I was looking for. But did You have any experience w/ it? - Works "stably"? > You can use some of the ex

Re: su and environment.

2010-07-10 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Bob: > > $ su -c 'abc' -l anotheruser > > > > but it returns > > > > -su: abc: command not found > > > > The abc is in the anotheruser's path, but it seems option '-l' does > > not work here. > > > > How I can accomplish the goal (without manually specifying

Re: console: turning to the primary state.

2010-07-10 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón, Lisi and Bob: > There are terminal specific ways to reset. If you are using Xterm > then Xterm uses control+middlemousebutton to bring up a terminal menu > and offers "Do Full Reset" as one of the options. Well. I was speaking about KDE's console (th

Re: A "magical" HDD formatting question.

2010-07-10 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei: > No. You have to find a way to unmount the partition you want to > format. And no way to make such may virtual unmounting - may something like kernels are now updated on the fly? > Make a minimal installation in some space that you can spare > tempora