Re: uploading to esnips

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-20 12:11, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Uploading to esnips (http://www.esnips.com) doesn't work anylonger in Iceweasel. When *did* it work? You have to be a member to upload but it's free. I can only upload when I use FF on XP under VMware. Google-chrome doesn't do it either and I

Re: uploading to esnips

2010-04-20 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:11:24 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Uploading to esnips (http://www.esnips.com) doesn't work anylonger in > Iceweasel. > You have to be a member to upload but it's free. I can only upload when > I use FF on XP under VMware. Google-chrome doesn't do it either and I > don't

python-twisted-core not getting updated on i386, but is updated on amd64 [was Re: Increasing number of conflicts]

2010-04-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:30 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: If I was you I would start by finding out why python-twisted-core is not getting upgraded to the latest version that's in the repos and so on, with a little investigating I'm sure you will find what has broken your system, it may help to us

Re: How to trick my Debian in thinking that a package is not installed

2010-04-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 03:22:00PM +, T o n g was heard to say: > I am talking about the *standalone* durep package. I don't like the new > 0.9 version but rather prefer the old 0.8 version. However, even I've put > it on hold in dpkg/aptitude, from time to time if I do a 'aptitude safe- >

Why are there no latest books written for Debian systems?

2010-04-20 Thread surreal
I wanted to buy a book about Debian, I found that the last book written was way back in 2005 by Martin F. Krafft After 2005, Etch and Lenny were released. In 5 years its surprising no

Re: problem with USB external hard disk My Book 1110

2010-04-20 Thread Paul E Condon
I was OP on the recent thread. Use my name in search. Also look for mention of U3. U3 is an emerging software technology for making part of a hard disk appear to be a CD. If you want to get rid of this feature you must download some software from WD site. They don't have support for Linux, but this

Re: Sudden reboots with Firefox and Flash

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-20 21:39, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Nick Douma put forth on 4/20/2010 5:01 PM: Looks like I'll have to look for a new CPU cooler... Or you could just properly seat the current factory HSF. You likely buggered up the pre-applied thermal paste film when you attached the stock HSF, or you

Re: problem with USB external hard disk My Book 1110

2010-04-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Bernard put forth on 4/20/2010 8:24 PM: > Hi to Everyone ! > > I had 3 external usb disks for savings. None of them refused to operate > under Debian Linux, indeed they worked 'out of the box', even though > Linux was not mentioned as a compatible system in the notices. > Could someone suggest

Re: Sudden reboots with Firefox and Flash

2010-04-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Stan Hoeppner put forth on 4/20/2010 9:39 PM: > Nick Douma put forth on 4/20/2010 5:01 PM: >> Looks like I'll have to look for a new CPU cooler... > > Or you could just properly seat the current factory HSF. You likely > buggered up the pre-applied thermal paste film when you attached the stock >

Re: Sudden reboots with Firefox and Flash

2010-04-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Nick Douma put forth on 4/20/2010 5:01 PM: > Looks like I'll have to look for a new CPU cooler... Or you could just properly seat the current factory HSF. You likely buggered up the pre-applied thermal paste film when you attached the stock HSF, or you possibly didn't get the HSF installed square

problem with USB external hard disk My Book 1110

2010-04-20 Thread Bernard
Hi to Everyone ! I had 3 external usb disks for savings. None of them refused to operate under Debian Linux, indeed they worked 'out of the box', even though Linux was not mentioned as a compatible system in the notices. Today, since my above mentioned drives have no more space available, I

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
Merciadri Luca wrote: > Jay Berkenbilt wrote: >> Merciadri Luca wrote: >> >> >> >> The PDF specification itself recommends using external encryption in >> this case. From section 7.6.1 of the PDF specification: >> >> NOTE: Conforming writers have two choices if the encryption methods >> and

Re: List issues?

2010-04-20 Thread Chris
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:20:56 + (UTC) T o n g wrote: > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:37:36 -0500, Chris wrote: > > > ... oddly enough. Last email from this list to me was at 11:22 am > > CDT It's now 5:37 pm CDT > > No, it's not the list but you. > > When in doubts, check > > official debian-us

Re: Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-20 Thread John Hasler
B. Alexander wrote: > I've got an issue with a sid box that I have been maintaining for a > while. This is my workstation, and I have noticed a growing number of > broken packages, unmet dependencies and conflicts. I have been using > safe-upgrade for months now, hoping that it would work itself ou

Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

2010-04-20 Thread Andrew Malcolmson
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:01:41 -0400 (EDT), Andrew Malcolmson wrote: >> Couldn't say why they switched, but I find pages in Epiphany 2.29 in >> Squeeze look vivid compared with the Gecko version. > > I have switched back and forth between epi

Re: How to trick my Debian in thinking that a package is not installed

2010-04-20 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On Tue, Apr 20 at 23:31, T o n g penned: > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:26:02 -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 20 at 23:10, T o n g penned: > >> > >> Yes, that's what I am doing now. Moreover, I've put it on hold in > >> both dpkg and aptitude, but somehow it still get upgraded from >

Re: How to trick my Debian in thinking that a package is not installed

2010-04-20 Thread T o n g
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:26:02 -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20 at 23:10, T o n g penned: >> >> Yes, that's what I am doing now. Moreover, I've put it on hold in both >> dpkg and aptitude, but somehow it still get upgraded from time to time. > > Pardon me for asking this, but what

Re: List issues?

2010-04-20 Thread T o n g
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:37:36 -0500, Chris wrote: > ... oddly enough. Last email from this list to me was at 11:22 am CDT > It's now 5:37 pm CDT No, it's not the list but you. When in doubts, check official debian-user mailing list archives http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ -- Tong (remov

Re: How to trick my Debian in thinking that a package is not installed

2010-04-20 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On Tue, Apr 20 at 23:10, T o n g penned: > > Yes, that's what I am doing now. Moreover, I've put it on hold in > both dpkg and aptitude, but somehow it still get upgraded from time > to time. Pardon me for asking this, but what method are you using to hold the package? This is from my aptitude

Re: backup apt tree?

2010-04-20 Thread T o n g
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:52:33 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > so anything catastrophic as to trash var/ will best be solved by a > complete reinstall. 2nd to that. package downgrading would never be "quickly and painlessly". Do a complete system restore, that'd be more quickly and painlessly than do

Re: Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-20 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On Tue, Apr 20 at 16:19, B. Alexander penned: >It's more of a packaging issue. For instance, there have been >several ABI changes, the most recent of which was the transition >from kde3 to kde4. Packages getting left along the way. > >Another thing is packages whcih seem to have g

Re: How to trick my Debian in thinking that a package is not installed

2010-04-20 Thread T o n g
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:31:06 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: >> How can I trick my Debian into thinking that a package is not >> installed? > > Your best option is, as others have said, to use pinning. If that > doesn't work, or you prefer not to use that method, you could > > 1) simply uninstall dur

Re: backup apt tree?

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-20 15:27, B. Alexander wrote: If you are asking what I think you are asking, as in which files would you need to restore your system in the event that you lose your apt and dpkg databases, then I do the following: /var/backups /var/cache/apt (less /var/cache/apt/archives) /var/lib/apt

Re: Webkit2 (was Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse)

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-20 17:12, Mark Allums wrote: On 4/20/2010 4:18 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] Even though I'm an official Grumpy Old Man, the know the reasons for "2.0". It's just that now I know that most of them are screaming piles of horse manure. That won't stop them from moving to it. Be

List issues?

2010-04-20 Thread Chris
Greetings, ... oddly enough. Last email from this list to me was at 11:22 am CDT It's now 5:37 pm CDT -- Regards, Chris "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." -- Thomas Jefferson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Webkit2 (was Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse)

2010-04-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/20/2010 4:18 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-04-20 10:41, Mark Allums wrote: On 4/19/2010 11:24 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 4/19/2010 10:20 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-04-19 21:47, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] Webkit 2.0 is imminent. Perhaps they are considering moving to it. According to

Re: Sudden reboots with Firefox and Flash

2010-04-20 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 22:51:22 +0200, Nick Douma wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:05:57PM +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: >> No was not the same. But you can hear if fan speed goes up when you >> load either the cpu or the graphic card. > > For giggles, I just enabled the BIOS warning beep when m

Re: Sudden reboots with Firefox and Flash

2010-04-20 Thread Nick Douma
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:51:22PM +0200, Nick Douma wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:05:57PM +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > > No was not the same. But you can hear if fan speed goes up when you load > > either the cpu or the graphic card. > > For giggles, I just enabled the BIOS warning bee

Re: [SOLVED] Debian-multimedia breaks mplayer .mov playback on Lenny?

2010-04-20 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 07:08:23 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Clive McBarton writes: > > The debian-multimedia-keyring is not restricted by patents or any > > other licence issues. I understand why the other d-m packages are not > > in debian, but the keyring (and just the keyring) should be in debi

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-20 14:34, Merciadri Luca wrote: > [snip] > > > > Yup. It regularly bites government agencies who faultily redact FOIA > documents. > Okay. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem w

Re: USB device attached via RS232 adaptor

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-20 12:24, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:48:33 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: Hello Ron, That's what OP wrote, but it makes no sense. Indeed. Sounds to me as though Dotan's neighbour isn't all that tech savvie. Again, a bit of guess on my part. Yeah, but this is one of

Re: Webkit2 (was Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse)

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-20 10:41, Mark Allums wrote: On 4/19/2010 11:24 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 4/19/2010 10:20 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-04-19 21:47, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] Webkit 2.0 is imminent. Perhaps they are considering moving to it. According to various sources, it is the bee's knees.

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-20 14:34, Merciadri Luca wrote: Johannes Wiedersich wrote: [snip] Just use a grey-by-dotting watermark for black text, merge the layers and it will be rather difficult to remove the watermark. > I did not merge the layers before sending it to them. Problematic? Yup. It regularl

Re: backup apt tree?

2010-04-20 Thread B. Alexander
No worries. As I said, this will work for apt, but I'm not sure where aptitude keeps its files. A quick consult of the man page and a look at the filesystem shows /var/lib/aptitude, however, I think it also uses Xapian. I use BackupPC, since it does multiple machines. --b On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at

Re: Sudden reboots with Firefox and Flash

2010-04-20 Thread Nick Douma
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:05:57PM +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > No was not the same. But you can hear if fan speed goes up when you load > either the cpu or the graphic card. For giggles, I just enabled the BIOS warning beep when my CPU gets >60C. After starting 4x burnP6 and letting it run

Re: backup apt tree?

2010-04-20 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:27 PM, B. Alexander wrote: > If you are asking what I think you are asking, as in which files would you > need to restore your system in the event that you lose your apt and dpkg > databases, then I do the following: > > /var/backups > /var/cache/apt (less /var/cache/apt/

Re: backup apt tree?

2010-04-20 Thread B. Alexander
If you are asking what I think you are asking, as in which files would you need to restore your system in the event that you lose your apt and dpkg databases, then I do the following: /var/backups /var/cache/apt (less /var/cache/apt/archives) /var/lib/apt /var/lib/dpkg This will give you enough t

Re: Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-20 Thread B. Alexander
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20 at 7:31, B. Alexander penned: > > > >In my case, it appears the root of the problems are caused by > >bitrot. I probably need to come up with some method of rebuilding > >my sid boxes every so often. Prior to

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
Xavier Vello wrote: > Le Tuesday 20 April 2010 01:33:37, Russ Allbery a écrit : > > > There's a configuration option in KPDF (and okular, its KDE4 version) saying > "obey DRM limitations" (unchecked by default). You can activate it, and a > tool > like kiosk might help to configure the defaul

Re: Sudden reboots with Firefox and Flash

2010-04-20 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Tuesday 20 April 2010 21:57:01 Nick Douma wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 09:43:18PM +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > > +1 > > I had the same problem. The fan control was not working well. A BIOS > > upgrade solved the problem. > > Did you also experience this problem with this motherboard, o

Re: Sudden reboots with Firefox and Flash

2010-04-20 Thread Nick Douma
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 09:43:18PM +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > +1 > I had the same problem. The fan control was not working well. A BIOS upgrade > solved the problem. Did you also experience this problem with this motherboard, or a similar one? signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Sudden reboots with Firefox and Flash

2010-04-20 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Tuesday 20 April 2010 21:14:22 Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:00:26 +0200, Nick Douma wrote: > > 1/ System overheating (reboots tend to happen due to high temperatures, > watch the BIOS CPU temps and control the rpm of the fans). > +1 I had the same problem. The fan control was not

Re: backup apt tree?

2010-04-20 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > Restoring those files would not actually cause a downgrade to occur.  They > would just cause the state of the package manager to not accurately reflect > the state of the system. > Yes, this is what I would like to achieve. I would

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Merciadri Luca wrote: > > Gunnar Wolf wrote: > >> Merciadri Luca dijo [Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 02:00:13PM +0200]: > >> > >> > >> Yet, you say in your previous reply they would be able to remove the > >> watermark from the document. That is clearly more complicated. > >>

Re: Sudden reboots with Firefox and Flash

2010-04-20 Thread Nick Douma
Hi, thanks for the reaction On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 07:14:22PM +, Camaleón wrote: > I hope you also get a 1000 watts power supply to feed that equipment >:-) I actually bought a 850Watt PSU, which should be more than enough for this setup, according to various reviews I read. > So, as you al

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Merciadri Luca wrote: > Gunnar Wolf wrote: >> Merciadri Luca dijo [Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 02:00:13PM +0200]: >> >> >> Yet, you say in your previous reply they would be able to remove the >> watermark from the document. That is clearly more complicated

Re: Plagiarism (was Re: PDF is blocked for ...)

2010-04-20 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-20 07:27, Merciadri Luca wrote: > [snip] >> Yes, but there are some nuances. Let's take my example: how would you >> have done this? You need to transmit the document, but the receivers are >> sufficiently dishonest to p

Re: backup apt tree?

2010-04-20 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Not the answer but an alternative solution, restoring from this portal http://snapshot.debian.org -- Regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debia

Re: Console font turned cyan

2010-04-20 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Robert Latest wrote: > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Phil Requirements >> wrote: > >> Just in case you are running grub2, the /etc/grub/default variables >> for framebuffer are > > I needed that hint, too. Betwe

Re: Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,19.Apr.10, 20:28:16, Joe wrote: > You don't run sid unless you have a sense of humour. That's a good one :) You might want to attach a full name to it, for proper attribution ;) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/ma

Re: Sudden reboots with Firefox and Flash

2010-04-20 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:00:26 +0200, Nick Douma wrote: > I recently built a new computer with the following specs: > > * Intel Core i7 930 > * Gigabyte X58A-UD7 > * OCZ Platinum XTC OCZ3P1333LV6GK (6GB DDR3) * Gigabyte GV-N275UD-896I > (nVidia GeForce GT 275) * 2x 1TB Saamsung Spinpoint F1 HD102UJ

Re: howto setup my own wikipedia site

2010-04-20 Thread Nuno Magalhães
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Sudden reboots with Firefox and Flash

2010-04-20 Thread Nick Douma
I recently built a new computer with the following specs: * Intel Core i7 930 * Gigabyte X58A-UD7 * OCZ Platinum XTC OCZ3P1333LV6GK (6GB DDR3) * Gigabyte GV-N275UD-896I (nVidia GeForce GT 275) * 2x 1TB Saamsung Spinpoint F1 HD102UJ * 2x 500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS - both in RAID0

Re: backup apt tree?

2010-04-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 20 April 2010 13:49:32 Liviu Andronic wrote: > What files contain the information on the current ("now") apt tree? I > would like to perform backups of these files so that I could restore > the tree if some package upgrade messed up my Debian testing. Restoring those files would not act

Re: howto setup my own wikipedia site

2010-04-20 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 08:37:08PM +0200, Jozsi Vadkan wrote: > Can anyone post a link, howto install/setup a wikipedia-like site? > > I just want to put my "stiky-notes" to my own wikipedia site. apt-get install mediawiki That will install the required software. You'll want to read the docs to

Re: howto setup my own wikipedia site

2010-04-20 Thread Robin Krahl
On 20.04.2010 20:37, Jozsi Vadkan wrote: > Can anyone post a link, howto install/setup a wikipedia-like site? That’s documented very well on mediawiki.org: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Debian_GNU/Linux Regards, Robin -- Robin Krahl http://rkrahl.de plain text &

backup apt tree?

2010-04-20 Thread Liviu Andronic
Dear all What files contain the information on the current ("now") apt tree? I would like to perform backups of these files so that I could restore the tree if some package upgrade messed up my Debian testing. Thank you Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm h

howto setup my own wikipedia site

2010-04-20 Thread Jozsi Vadkan
Can anyone post a link, howto install/setup a wikipedia-like site? I just want to put my "stiky-notes" to my own wikipedia site. Thank you -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: h

Re: How to trick my Debian in thinking that a package is not installed

2010-04-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:22:00 + (UTC) T o n g wrote: Hello T, > How can I trick my Debian into thinking that a package is not > installed? Your best option is, as others have said, to use pinning. If that doesn't work, or you prefer not to use that method, you could 1) simply uninstall dur

Re: USB device attached via RS232 adaptor

2010-04-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:36:13 -0500 Mark Allums wrote: Hello Mark, > Well, I meant a computer on both sides, but it matters not a whit. I Ah, I see. > should probably not post (even to make a joke) if I can't actually be > helpful, it wastes everyone's time. Jokes are fine. Just make sure

Re: USB device attached via RS232 adaptor

2010-04-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:48:33 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: Hello Ron, > That's what OP wrote, but it makes no sense. Indeed. Sounds to me as though Dotan's neighbour isn't all that tech savvie. Again, a bit of guess on my part. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is

uploading to esnips

2010-04-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, Uploading to esnips (http://www.esnips.com) doesn't work anylonger in Iceweasel. You have to be a member to upload but it's free. I can only upload when I use FF on XP under VMware. Google-chrome doesn't do it either and I don't have more browsers. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Logwatch

2010-04-20 Thread James Allsopp
Hi, Does anyone know any good introductory guides to using logwatch, with emphasis on intrusion catching? Thanks, James

Re: Gramps in Lenny

2010-04-20 Thread Julio
El mar, 20-04-2010 a las 11:42 -0400, Ravi Sista escribió: > Does it work? In the Gramps website, I see mention of it working > against Sid/Squeeze but nothing about Lenny. Yes, it works. ~$ cat /etc/debian_version 5.0.4 $ dpkg -l gramps ii gramps3.0.1-1 Genealogical R

Re: How to trick my Debian in thinking that a package is not installed

2010-04-20 Thread Nick Douma
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 03:22:00PM +, T o n g wrote: > How can I trick my Debian into thinking that a package is not installed? > > I am talking about the *standalone* durep package. I don't like the new > 0.9 version but rather prefer the old 0.8 version. However, even I've put > it on hold

Gramps in Lenny

2010-04-20 Thread Ravi Sista
Does it work? In the Gramps website, I see mention of it working against Sid/Squeeze but nothing about Lenny. I'd appreciate if someone who made this work in Lenny throw some light (what version/how to install i.e. download *.deb or through Synaptic etc.). Thanks. Ravi

How does snapshot.debian.org work?

2010-04-20 Thread Nicolas BERCHER
Hi, Does anyone knows what technologies are involved behind snapshot.debian.org? I'm interested in snapshot file systems and I'm looking for nice solutions running on Debian. An example which looks perfect is the Plan9 fossil/venti solution (http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html/4/fossil) T

Re: Webkit2 (was Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse)

2010-04-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/19/2010 11:24 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 4/19/2010 10:20 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-04-19 21:47, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] Webkit 2.0 is imminent. Perhaps they are considering moving to it. According to various sources, it is the bee's knees. Beyond crude process separation, what ar

Re: dash-as-bin-sh

2010-04-20 Thread Wes Garland
Hi, Boyd! On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. < b...@iguanasuicide.net> wrote: > > Not portably. It might be possible by parsing ($SHELL -V -c 'exit 123') or > ($SHELL --version -c 'exit 123'). > Say, that's a clever approach, thanks for suggesting it. Sorry, I don't even

Re: USB device attached via RS232 adaptor

2010-04-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/20/2010 3:07 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:02:25 -0500 Mark Allums wrote: Hello Mark, That ought actually to work, if a computer were plugged into the USB side. Then you would have a very slow transfer cable. Yes, but AIUI, the computer's on the RS232 side. Well, I

Re: How to trick my Debian in thinking that a package is not installed

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-20 10:22, T o n g wrote: Hi, How can I trick my Debian into thinking that a package is not installed? I am talking about the *standalone* durep package. I don't like the new 0.9 version but rather prefer the old 0.8 version. However, even I've put it on hold in dpkg/aptitude, from

How to trick my Debian in thinking that a package is not installed

2010-04-20 Thread T o n g
Hi, How can I trick my Debian into thinking that a package is not installed? I am talking about the *standalone* durep package. I don't like the new 0.9 version but rather prefer the old 0.8 version. However, even I've put it on hold in dpkg/aptitude, from time to time if I do a 'aptitude safe

Re: dash-as-bin-sh

2010-04-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 20 April 2010 09:57:14 Wes Garland wrote: > 1 - I there a better place to get help with dash Not that I know of. However, dash is fairly plain when it comes to POSIX- compliant shells. It handles the stuff POSIX requires it to plus the "local" keyword (which Debian requires of it) an

Re: Plagiarism (was Re: PDF is blocked for ...)

2010-04-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
Stephen Powell wrote: > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:13:01 -0400 (EDT), Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > I haven't been following this thread. I just took a look at it today, > primarily because there's been so much activity on it. So it's quite > possible that I'm repeating sentiments that have been exp

dash-as-bin-sh

2010-04-20 Thread Wes Garland
Hi, List! I have a few simple questions for you: 1 - I there a better place to get help with dash 2 - Is there way to detect that a script is running as dash, instead of a shell like Solaris' /bin/sh 3 - Corollary to #2, can I expect dash-as-sh to by a hard link or a sym link? (I would think no

Re: Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-20 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On Tue, Apr 20 at 7:31, B. Alexander penned: > >In my case, it appears the root of the problems are caused by >bitrot. I probably need to come up with some method of rebuilding >my sid boxes every so often. Prior to this, my rebuilds were done >in 2000 and 2007...Maybe if I am goi

Continuous wifi errors

2010-04-20 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Debianistas, I get the following messages continuously, via dmesg: [10438.440147] wlan0: switched to long barker preamble (BSSID=00:0c:41:fb:d5:50) [10453.293891] wlan0: switched to short barker preamble (BSSID=00:0c:41:fb:d5:50) [10741.016287

Re: Plagiarism (was Re: PDF is blocked for ...)

2010-04-20 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:13:01 -0400 (EDT), Merciadri Luca wrote: > One can still chop off header and footers. That is fairly easy. I haven't been following this thread. I just took a look at it today, primarily because there's been so much activity on it. So it's quite possible that I'm repeating

Re: Plagiarism (was Re: PDF is blocked for ...)

2010-04-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-20 07:27, Merciadri Luca wrote: > [snip] > > Haven't Academicians had this problem for centuries? How have the > rest of them solved it in the past 30 years? Sure. I don't know precisely. > > In addition to a watermark, in both the header and footer I'd write > some

Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

2010-04-20 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:39:27 -0400 (EDT), Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-20 08:24, Lisi wrote: >> On Tuesday 20 April 2010 03:21:52 Ron Johnson wrote: >>> Why do women buy new clothes every year when their existing clothes >>> are completely functional? >> >> A lot of us don't. And I don't fix t

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Merciadri Luca dijo [Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 02:00:13PM +0200]: > > > Yet, you say in your previous reply they would be able to remove the > watermark from the document. That is clearly more complicated. > Sure, but I think that PDFs are composed `in layers,' aren't they? If

Plagiarism (was Re: PDF is blocked for ...)

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-20 07:27, Merciadri Luca wrote: [snip] Yes, but there are some nuances. Let's take my example: how would you have done this? You need to transmit the document, but the receivers are sufficiently dishonest to print it and to claim they are the authors. Haven't Academicians had this pr

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-20 06:58, Merciadri Luca wrote: > [snip] > > In that case, he should be using Acroread, which means you have little > to fear. > > > > > Seems pretty typical to me... It might be pretty typical, but when considered at another scale than `my scale' (i.e. the compariso

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Merciadri Luca dijo [Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 02:00:13PM +0200]: > > As you quote, others have told you the PDF-provided security is > > fake. It is just a flag flipped to tell the reader program to pretty > > please make life miserable for the user. > > > Yes, but it is often sufficient to prevent

Re: USB device attached via RS232 adaptor

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-20 03:07, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:02:25 -0500 Mark Allums wrote: Hello Mark, That ought actually to work, if a computer were plugged into the USB side. Then you would have a very slow transfer cable. Yes, but AIUI, the computer's on the RS232 side. That's wh

Re: Cannot Connect to Debian BTS

2010-04-20 Thread David Baron
On Sunday 18 April 2010 21:13:18 David Baron wrote: > On Sunday 18 April 2010 15:58:19 Aioanei Rares wrote: > > On 04/18/2010 03:32 PM, David Baron wrote: > > >> Neither "normal" reportbug or the reportbug-ng can connect to debian > > >> bts right now. > > >> > > >> Is there something wrong there?

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-20 06:58, Merciadri Luca wrote: [snip] So, you need to ask yourself: (a) Does this "colleague" run Linux? Nice question. He does not. In that case, he should be using Acroread, which means you have little to fear. (b) If so, will he read it with Acroread? / (c) Will he be be m

Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-20 08:24, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 20 April 2010 03:21:52 Ron Johnson wrote: Why do women buy new clothes every year when their existing clothes are completely functional? A lot of us don't. And I don't fix things that aren't broken either. (I _knew_ I'd get an email or two like t

Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

2010-04-20 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 20 April 2010 03:21:52 Ron Johnson wrote: > Why do women buy new clothes every year when their existing clothes > are completely functional? A lot of us don't. And I don't fix things that aren't broken either. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org w

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > On Tuesday 20 April 2010 12:16:26 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > In my opinion, the more safety checks there are, the more stupid the users > become. > Without safety they have to be awake and careful to what they are doing. > Objectively and theoretically, yes. But, t

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
godo wrote: > > > They can but if you make lousy quality .jpg maybe they can't. > Try <70 dpi and not use some ordinary font. If they print they get > messy text hard for scanning. But if I had tried such a quality, they would not have been able to read it! But nice proposition. > But whatever you

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 02:27:39PM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > > Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > > >> Why would an > > >> honest soul ever allow information to be read, but not printed? > > >> > > > To maintain honesty? An honest soul (i.e

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread godo
With such files (.jpg ones) they can print it directly, can't they? They can but if you make lousy quality .jpg maybe they can't. Try <70 dpi and not use some ordinary font. If they print they get messy text hard for scanning. But whatever you do they can always sent .pdf to somebody and if

Re: crypt question/server hotel

2010-04-20 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας
Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:49:20AM +0200, Jozsi Vadkan wrote: I want to put my server in a "server hotel". But: I don't trust my "server hotel owner". What can I do? I am no expert on this issue but this is my common sense. Do not use such untrusted servers fo

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Merciadri Luca wrote: > > Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > >> Why would an > >> honest soul ever allow information to be read, but not printed? > >> > > To maintain honesty? An honest soul (i.e. me, here) has to send some > > data to some dishonest person. > > The proble

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
Jay Berkenbilt wrote: > Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > > The PDF specification itself recommends using external encryption in > this case. From section 7.6.1 of the PDF specification: > > NOTE: Conforming writers have two choices if the encryption methods > and syntax provided by PDF are not

Re: [SOLVED] Debian-multimedia breaks mplayer .mov playback on Lenny?

2010-04-20 Thread John Hasler
Clive McBarton writes: > The debian-multimedia-keyring is not restricted by patents or any > other licence issues. I understand why the other d-m packages are not > in debian, but the keyring (and just the keyring) should be in debian. Debian-multimedia is not part of Debian, -- John Hasler --

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Russ Allbery dijo [Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 02:14:21PM -0700]: > > > The reasons not to want a document printed are quite easy to > understand, but the mechanism is flawed. / > Given the setting you > mention, you can just slap a red banner stating "Confidential, do not > print"

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Merciadri Luca dijo [Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 05:32:51PM +0200]: > > > Thing is, PDF is a printing-oriented format. It is a close descendent > of PostScript, a full-fledged programming language, but geared towards > printers. The main point that makes PDF a more convenient forma

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-19 16:17, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > The "problem" is that Windows is a jailed, restricted, dumbed-down > environment "operated" by so many clueless users. > > It's almost certain that there is the occasional Windows user (and > with a user base approaching 10^9, "occ

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