Re: Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
B. Alexander wrote: I've got an issue with a sid box that I have been maintaining for a while. This is my workstation, and I have noticed a growing number of broken packages, unmet dependencies and conflicts. I have been using safe-upgrade for months now, hoping that it would work itself out ov

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Merciadri Luca wrote: > John Hasler wrote: >> What do you mean by "real protection"? If they possess a copy that they >> can read they can print it. It should be obvious that there is nothing >> you can do to stop them. >> > Not so obvious, simply

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Merciadri Luca wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich wrote: >> Why would an >> honest soul ever allow information to be read, but not printed? >> > To maintain honesty? An honest soul (i.e. me, here) has to send some > data to some dishonest person. The pro

Re: Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: When I do 'aptitude full-upgrade' I get 1 broken package: The following packages are BROKEN: python-twisted-conch and 1 package with unmet dependencies: The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-twisted-conch: Depends: python-twisted-core (>= 10.0.0-3)

Re: Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
Mark Allums wrote: I noticed OP's post contained g++. My Sid is also trying to uninstall g++. Without me posting about 8k worth of useless diagnostics, would you happen to know the reason why? I'm not seeing the problem, currently my unstable/testing system is fully up-to-date and nothin

Re: [SOLVED] Debian-multimedia breaks mplayer .mov playback on Lenny?

2010-04-19 Thread Alan Ianson
On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 20:34 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Alan Ianson writes: > > All the stuff at debian-multimedia can't be included in debian for > > various reasons, mostly freedom I think, so you won't find it in > > debian at all. It's made for debian but it isn't debian. > > Most of it is Fre

Re: Webkit2 (was Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse)

2010-04-19 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/19/2010 10:20 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-04-19 21:47, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] Webkit 2.0 is imminent. Perhaps they are considering moving to it. According to various sources, it is the bee's knees. Beyond crude process separation, what are it's benefits over v1? I don't know.

Re: Bash script - pass command line arg to embedded sed script with multiple args

2010-04-19 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:02:40PM -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote: > On Saturday 17 April 2010 00:09:28 Michael Elkins wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 08:15:38PM -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote: > > >What I'm trying to do is pretty simple. Getting it to work is turning out > > > not to be. What I wan

Webkit2 (was Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse)

2010-04-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-19 21:47, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] Webkit 2.0 is imminent. Perhaps they are considering moving to it. According to various sources, it is the bee's knees. Beyond crude process separation, what are it's benefits over v1? -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

2010-04-19 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/19/2010 9:46 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 4/19/2010 9:00 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:01:41 -0400 (EDT), Andrew Malcolmson wrote: Couldn't say why they switched, but I find pages in Epiphany 2.29 in Squeeze look vivid compared with the Gecko version. I have switched back

Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

2010-04-19 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/19/2010 7:53 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:59:29 -0400 (EDT), Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-04-17 21:32, Stephen Powell wrote: Why did they switch from gecko to webkit anyway? It was working so well. I still use it in Lenny. But not in Squeeze. Not anymore. http://en.

Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

2010-04-19 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/19/2010 9:00 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:01:41 -0400 (EDT), Andrew Malcolmson wrote: Couldn't say why they switched, but I find pages in Epiphany 2.29 in Squeeze look vivid compared with the Gecko version. I have switched back and forth between epiphany and iceweasel

Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

2010-04-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-19 20:40, Stephen Powell wrote: [snip] Hmm. Well, if they were going to design a brand new browser from scratch today, you make a good case for webkit. But they already had a browser that was working well with gecko. Why switch now? It's a lot of pain for very little gain, it seem

Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

2010-04-19 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:01:41 -0400 (EDT), Andrew Malcolmson wrote: > Couldn't say why they switched, but I find pages in Epiphany 2.29 in > Squeeze look vivid compared with the Gecko version. I have switched back and forth between epiphany and iceweasel several times, on the same computer and moni

Re: USB device attached via RS232 adaptor

2010-04-19 Thread Freeman
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 04:12:14AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-19 02:58, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >>>It's a 2.6 kernel, so Etch. > > > >>"Plonk" > >> > > > >Why plonk me? Surely this is not the last Etch machine out there? In > >any case, I could probably convince him to upgrade if you think

Re: [SOLVED] Debian-multimedia breaks mplayer .mov playback on Lenny?

2010-04-19 Thread John Hasler
Alan Ianson writes: > All the stuff at debian-multimedia can't be included in debian for > various reasons, mostly freedom I think, so you won't find it in > debian at all. It's made for debian but it isn't debian. Most of it is Free Software but encumbered by actively-enforced patents. d-mm.o ha

Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

2010-04-19 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:25:02 -0400 (EDT), Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-19 19:53, Stephen Powell wrote: >> Maybe I'm slow, Ron, but I don't follow you. The above link appears to >> give the origins of webkit, but I didn't see anything there about why >> epiphany-browser decided to switch from ge

Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

2010-04-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-19 19:53, Stephen Powell wrote: On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:59:29 -0400 (EDT), Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-04-17 21:32, Stephen Powell wrote: Why did they switch from gecko to webkit anyway? It was working so well. I still use it in Lenny. But not in Squeeze. Not anymore. http://en.wik

Re: [SOLVED] Debian-multimedia breaks mplayer .mov playback on Lenny?

2010-04-19 Thread Alan Ianson
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 00:00 +0200, Clive McBarton wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 2010-04-19 16:19, Clive McBarton wrote: > > [snip] > >> > >> How come there is no link anywhere on debian.org pointing to > >> debian-multimedia.org? Anything to

Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

2010-04-19 Thread Andrew Malcolmson
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:59:29 -0400 (EDT), Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 2010-04-17 21:32, Stephen Powell wrote: >>> >>> Why did they switch from gecko to webkit anyway?  It was working so well. >>> I still use it in Lenny.  But not in Squeeze.  N

Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

2010-04-19 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:59:29 -0400 (EDT), Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-17 21:32, Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> Why did they switch from gecko to webkit anyway? It was working so well. >> I still use it in Lenny. But not in Squeeze. Not anymore. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit#Origins

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
Merciadri Luca wrote: > Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: >> Pdf "anti-features" are fake security. Don't trust on them, never. > And what do you suggest if one wants some real protection _and_ the > benefits of a format like PDF? Thanks. The PDF specification itself recommends using external encryption in

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Merciadri Luca dijo [Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 05:32:51PM +0200]: > > Pdf "anti-features" are fake security. Don't trust on them, never. > And what do you suggest if one wants some real protection _and_ the > benefits of a format like PDF? Thanks. Thing is, PDF is a printing-oriented format. It is a cl

Re: Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-19 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/19/2010 8:28 AM, Wolodja Wentland wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 09:16 -0400, B. Alexander wrote: I've got an issue with a sid box that I have been maintaining for a while. This is my workstation, and I have noticed a growing number of broken packages, unmet dependencies and conflicts. I ha

Re: [SOLVED] Debian-multimedia breaks mplayer .mov playback on Lenny?

2010-04-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-19 17:00, Clive McBarton wrote: [snip] I understand that point of view. But it is a point of view that will make people stay away from d-m (and pretty much all other repos for that matter). It would help a lot if the key of d-m (package debian-multimedia-keyring) was in the debian re

Re: USB device attached via RS232 adaptor

2010-04-19 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/18/2010 3:27 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 15:15:53 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: Hello Ron, Plz show us a link to a USB adapter that plugs into a PC's serial port. I've never even looked for one. I'm just going what by Dotan wrote. By the sounds of it, he's not seen the set

Re: USB device attached via RS232 adaptor

2010-04-19 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/19/2010 4:29 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-04-19 04:24, Dotan Cohen wrote: Why plonk me? Surely this is not the last Etch machine out there? In any case, I could probably convince him to upgrade if you think that Etch is not up to the task. You completely missed (probably because gmail's

Re: [SOLVED] Debian-multimedia breaks mplayer .mov playback on Lenny?

2010-04-19 Thread Clive McBarton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-19 16:19, Clive McBarton wrote: > [snip] >> >> How come there is no link anywhere on debian.org pointing to >> debian-multimedia.org? Anything to establish a chain of trust. As it is, >> I looked and looked but didn't fi

Re: Timezones for Kontact seriously broken in Lenny

2010-04-19 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:36:12 +0200, Clive McBarton wrote: > Camaleón wrote: >> I was a KDE 3.5.x user for long time (2003-2010) but switched to GNOME >> as soon as the first KDE 4.0 came to scene (it was not intended for >> end- users but *we had* to deal with it and the result was many people >>

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-19 16:17, Merciadri Luca wrote: Russ Allbery wrote: I think people are not understanding why users use this feature in some environments. / Yes, sometimes it's a misguided attempt at DRM, but I've more often seen it inside a workplace as defense in depth against *mistakes*. One

Re: Timezones for Kontact seriously broken in Lenny

2010-04-19 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 19 April 2010 16:36:12 Clive McBarton wrote: > Camaleón wrote: > > I was a KDE 3.5.x user for long time (2003-2010) but switched to GNOME as > > soon as the first KDE 4.0 came to scene (it was not intended for end- > > users but *we had* to deal with it and the result was many people > >

Re: Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-19 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
You sent just to me. I'm sending back to the list and CC'ing you. On Monday 19 April 2010 16:27:08 B. Alexander wrote: > Thank you for this. I knew that aptitude had a an ncurses interface, but to > be honest, it looked too similar to dselect, which dredged up some bad > memories from about 10 ye

Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?

2010-04-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-19 16:30, Clive McBarton wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: There use to be a "preloader", but I don't see it anymore. There was a feature where GNOME or KDE would pre-load OOo at DE startup. That way, it *appears* that OOo loads much faster, even though it was really just shifted. There'

Re: Timezones for Kontact seriously broken in Lenny

2010-04-19 Thread Clive McBarton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Camaleón wrote: > I was a KDE 3.5.x user for long time (2003-2010) but switched to GNOME as > soon as the first KDE 4.0 came to scene (it was not intended for end- > users but *we had* to deal with it and the result was many people > searched another

Re: [SOLVED] Debian-multimedia breaks mplayer .mov playback on Lenny?

2010-04-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-19 16:19, Clive McBarton wrote: [snip] How come there is no link anywhere on debian.org pointing to debian-multimedia.org? Anything to establish a chain of trust. As it is, I looked and looked but didn't find. Even when searching for "multimedia" on debian.org, it does not mention deb

Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?

2010-04-19 Thread Clive McBarton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: >>> There use to be a "preloader", but I don't see it anymore. >> > There was a feature where GNOME or KDE would pre-load OOo at DE > startup. That way, it *appears* that OOo loads much faster, even though > it was really just shift

Re: [SOLVED] Debian-multimedia breaks mplayer .mov playback on Lenny?

2010-04-19 Thread Mark
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Clive McBarton wrote: > [snip] > > Can you check your installed version of libavcodec51? That's one of the > things which d-m modifies. > Unfortunately, it is not my machine and I don't have access to it for a while. I only had the machine for a short while which

Re: [SOLVED] Debian-multimedia breaks mplayer .mov playback on Lenny?

2010-04-19 Thread Clive McBarton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Liam O'Toole wrote: >> Adding debian-multimedia.org breaks a couple of things. Including vlc. I >> don't know why they don't fix their repository. >> >> I'm curious if many people use debian-multimedia. Is it trustworthy? >> >> > > I have been using d

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Russ Allbery wrote: > > I think people are not understanding why users use this feature in some > environments. > / > Yes, sometimes it's a misguided attempt at DRM, but I've more often seen > it inside a workplace as defense in depth against *mistakes*. One might, > for instance, mark a docume

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Camaleón writes: > On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:47:02 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > >> Vincent Danjean wrote: > > (...) > >>> So, what would be the use case to allow a someone to read the >>> information but not print it ? In any case, printing it would b

Re: [SOLVED] Debian-multimedia breaks mplayer .mov playback on Lenny?

2010-04-19 Thread Clive McBarton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark wrote: > I also have been using debian-multimedia for LAME mp3 and am very thankful > for its existence. Yes, it's useful for that. Though if it's just lame, it's probably simpler to compile the source than to add a repo. > without the debian-

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
I Rattan wrote: > > > On Mon, 19 Apr 2010, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > Life is simpler than that: > >pdf ->postscript ->print > > So, do not make the report available!! I had thought about it, but the guy won't think about it, fortunately. But you're right. There are many ways for this. Thanks.

Re: Out of curiosity...

2010-04-19 Thread Freeman
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:47:21PM +0430, Nima Azarbayjany wrote: > Hi all, > > The page at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ shows 717 open > bugs against the next release while the page at the following link: > > http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?bydist=squeeze&sortby=packages&ignmer

Re: Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-19 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 19 April 2010 08:16:02 B. Alexander wrote: > I've got an issue with a sid box that I have been maintaining for a while. > This is my workstation, and I have noticed a growing number of broken > packages, unmet dependencies and conflicts. I have been using safe-upgrade > for months now, ho

Re: Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-19 Thread Joe
On 19/04/10 15:34, B. Alexander wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Wolodja Wentland< I assume that this will allow aptitude to take actions which are more to your liking as you obviously don't like the ones proposed by aptitude when you run safe-upgrade. safe-upgrade just does the upgra

Re: Broken Debian's testing migration (grave bug in module-init-tools)

2010-04-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-04-19 12:43 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Are bugs which are marked as done taken into account before a > release? Yes, they are. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Arch

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread I Rattan
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010, Merciadri Luca wrote: Vincent Danjean wrote: My reason is quite complicated, and is really justified. Briefly, one person that I know needs to have some report I wrote, but this person should not be able neither to print it nor to extract content from it, for a simple reas

Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?

2010-04-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-19 13:11, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: What version is that? v3.2 from Sid opens much faster than any other version I've seen. 3.2.0-4 For me, that version performs much better than an other than the old 1.x ones. "Hang" has a specific meaning. D

Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?

2010-04-19 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 01:16:23 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: > >>As Ron already said, review your system specs. >> >>OOo needs a lot of ram the first time it opens, and keeps consuming a >>good quantity of your system resources as long as is loaded. > > Wo

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:47:02 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Vincent Danjean wrote: (...) >> So, what would be the use case to allow a someone to read the >> information but not print it ? In any case, printing it would be more >> or less convenient but it will always be possible if it is display

Re: Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
B. Alexander wrote: I've got an issue with a sid box that I have been maintaining for a while. This is my workstation, and I have noticed a growing number of broken packages, unmet dependencies and conflicts. I have been using safe-upgrade for months now, hoping that it would work itself out ov

Out of curiosity...

2010-04-19 Thread Nima Azarbayjany
Hi all, The page at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ shows 717 open bugs against the next release while the page at the following link: http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?bydist=squeeze&sortby=packages&ignmerged=on&ignbritney=on&pseudopackages=on&new=7&refresh=1800 lists only 344 b

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > The real protection would be not to send that information. I was not able to do it, because of `human' and organizational reasons. I had no choice! > Why would an > honest soul ever allow information to be read, but not printed? > To ma

Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?

2010-04-19 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: >As Ron already said, review your system specs. > >OOo needs a lot of ram the first time it opens, and keeps consuming a >good quantity of your system resources as long as is loaded. Wow! What a product! >In OOo 2.4 there is a "quick launch" option

Re: Which kernel for ThinkPad 760XD ?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Wolodja Wentland wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 19:04 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > A very unique and inventive hostname - if that is the output of 'uname > -a' > That is, objectively, the reason why one tries to find an unique hostname, but we will all agree on the special character o

Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?

2010-04-19 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: >What version is that? v3.2 from Sid opens much faster than any >other version I've seen. 3.2.0-4 >"Hang" has a specific meaning. >Do you mean "seemingly does nothing"? Correct, just hangs for a while (no any responses) then opens the document. >Upgra

Re: Which kernel for ThinkPad 760XD ?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Merciadri Luca wrote: > > Ionreflex wrote: > >> [quote] > >> Linux lol 2.4.27-3-586tsc #1 Tue Dec 5 22:06:26 UTC 2006 i586 GNU/Linux > >> [/quote] > > What does `lol' mean here? > > I guess it's just the hostname of the computer in question. > Special, but funny. Must b

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
John Hasler wrote: > Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > > > Merciadri Luca writes: > > > What do you mean by "real protection"? If they possess a copy that they > can read they can print it. It should be obvious that there is nothing > you can do to stop them. > Not so obvious, simply because if t

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Elias Gabriel Amaral da Silva wrote: > 2010/4/19 Merciadri Luca : > > > > Or paper and pencil. > That needs some determination. > I know that for some cases this 'restriction through inconvenience' is > sufficient in practice, but this should not be achievable with free > software, even if le

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
James Zuelow wrote: > > > > > That's not a technical problem, it's a management problem. > I totally agree. > If you can't trust this person to not forward information when he shouldn't, > then they should not be involved. > _should_. But I am not the person who decides. I am not neit

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Merciadri Luca wrote: > Mikhail Gusarov wrote: >> Twas brillig at 17:32:51 19.04.2010 UTC+02 when >> luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be did gyre and gimble: >> >> >> Pdf "anti-features" are fake security. Don't trust on them, never. >> ML> And what do you suggest if one wants some real protection _

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread John Hasler
Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > Pdf "anti-features" are fake security. Don't trust on them, never. Merciadri Luca writes: > And what do you suggest if one wants some real protection _and_ the > benefits of a format like PDF? Thanks. What do you mean by "real protection"? If they possess a copy that the

Re: Which kernel for ThinkPad 760XD ?

2010-04-19 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 19:04 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > I have no answer to your question, but I am wondering... > > Ionreflex wrote: > > [quote] > > Linux lol 2.4.27-3-586tsc #1 Tue Dec 5 22:06:26 UTC 2006 i586 GNU/Linux > > [/quote] > What does `lol' mean here? Is it some version of somethi

Re: Which kernel for ThinkPad 760XD ?

2010-04-19 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Merciadri Luca wrote: > I have no answer to your question, but I am wondering... NB: Apparently, the original post you replied to was to debian-laptop, not debian-user... -- Johannes In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. -

Re: Which kernel for ThinkPad 760XD ?

2010-04-19 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Merciadri Luca wrote: > Ionreflex wrote: >> [quote] >> Linux lol 2.4.27-3-586tsc #1 Tue Dec 5 22:06:26 UTC 2006 i586 GNU/Linux >> [/quote] > What does `lol' mean here? I guess it's just the hostname of the computer in question. - -- Johannes In que

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Elias Gabriel Amaral da Silva
2010/4/19 Merciadri Luca : > I know that it is _always_ possible (with some determination) to extract > content, by some way, of a PDF (even if screenshots were to never work, > you can still use a camera). Principally, the most important aspects of Or paper and pencil. > such security features

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <4bcc77a3.9080...@student.ulg.ac.be> you wrote: > > > It is simply not possible to publish something and protect it. The best > protection in that case is reputation. > Please read my other message, which explains the situation I am/was facing. On the mere

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 15:52 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > At least Evince can be convinced to provide this "feature", if you > toggle /apps/evince/override_restrictions > > No problem. Thanks. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merci

Re: Which kernel for ThinkPad 760XD ?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
I have no answer to your question, but I am wondering... Ionreflex wrote: > [quote] > Linux lol 2.4.27-3-586tsc #1 Tue Dec 5 22:06:26 UTC 2006 i586 GNU/Linux > [/quote] What does `lol' mean here? Is it some version of something, or did you simply put this over there because you have some sense of

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Kevin Mark wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:39:03PM +0700, Mikhail Gusarov wrote: > > > This is one of the reasons why people who seek to use DRM will not allow their > software to be made for Free Software Platforms. DRM is not in the best > interest of the users/re-users of content. And by

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Vincent Danjean wrote: > On 19/04/2010 17:32, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > If you have free software (ie software you have the sources and are able > to recompile) and if you can get the information on the screen, then it is > only a matter of programmation to be able to have it on printer. So, >

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:39:03PM +0700, Mikhail Gusarov wrote: > > Twas brillig at 17:32:51 19.04.2010 UTC+02 when > luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be did gyre and gimble: > > >> Pdf "anti-features" are fake security. Don't trust on them, never. > ML> And what do you suggest if one wants some

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Camaleón writes: > On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:31:30 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > >> I have written a PDF that I have blocked for printing, etc. Acrobat >> Reader won't print it, because of the restrictions defined on the PDF >> file's content. However,

Re: Light automatically and randomly reduces some secs. after it has been set to its maximum level

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Camaleón writes: > On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:52:36 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > >> Camaleón writes: >> >>> Open GConf editor and navigate to "/apps/gnome-power-manager/backlight/ >>> idle_brightness". You can tweak many things from there. > >> Will t

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Mikhail Gusarov wrote: > Twas brillig at 17:32:51 19.04.2010 UTC+02 when > luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be did gyre and gimble: > > >> Pdf "anti-features" are fake security. Don't trust on them, never. > ML> And what do you suggest if one wants some real protection _and_ the > ML> benefits of a

problem with redirection in APache2

2010-04-19 Thread Jesus arteche
Hi, I'm trying to redirect from a site to another, and it worksbut i want that when it redirects it shows the original address and not the destination address, the line that i have at the moment and works without hide the redirection is: RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://openmeetings.innovagroup.es:

Vieni ad unirti a me su MediaOggi!

2010-04-19 Thread MediaOggi
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Re: wget, apache and spam

2010-04-19 Thread sethurf
sethurf wrote: > Jon Dowland wrote: > >> sethurf wrote: >> >> >>> Would you have any solution for me ? I don't know what to do... Maybe >>> there is a big big bug/fault in a hosted file for a hosted website. >>> >>> >> Yes, one of the sites you are hosting has a problem whic

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 17:32:51 19.04.2010 UTC+02 when luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be did gyre and gimble: >> Pdf "anti-features" are fake security. Don't trust on them, never. ML> And what do you suggest if one wants some real protection _and_ the ML> benefits of a format like PDF? Thanks. There

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > Pdf "anti-features" are fake security. Don't trust on them, never. And what do you suggest if one wants some real protection _and_ the benefits of a format like PDF? Thanks. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is a

Re: Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-19 Thread B. Alexander
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Wolodja Wentland < wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 09:16 -0400, B. Alexander wrote: > > I've got an issue with a sid box that I have been maintaining for a > while. This > > is my workstation, and I have noticed a growing number of b

Re: Light automatically and randomly reduces some secs. after it has been set to its maximum level

2010-04-19 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:52:36 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >> Open GConf editor and navigate to "/apps/gnome-power-manager/backlight/ >> idle_brightness". You can tweak many things from there. > Will this modification be taken into account directly? Yes, changes should take

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:31:30 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > I have written a PDF that I have blocked for printing, etc. Acrobat > Reader won't print it, because of the restrictions defined on the PDF > file's content. However, KPDF accepts printing it, and extracting > content from it, etc., even

Re: X Window System on Samsung n210 (Intel GMA 3150)

2010-04-19 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:00:54 +0200, Enrique Matías Sánchez (Quique) wrote: > I've bought a Samsung n210 netbook, which has an Intel GMA 3150 graphics > card. > > I've installed Debian testing on it, and KDE 4.4 from experimental. > Unfortunately the graphical interface doesn't work properly. > >

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Merciadri Luca schreef: Neil Williams wrote: On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:31:30 +0200 Merciadri Luca wrote: Anti-features like locking and password protection are not supported and, if implemented, could make the free software tools appear non-free by restricting the functionality available to

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
I Rattan wrote: > > > On Mon, 19 Apr 2010, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > yes. Thanks. I assume that this is for the same reason as Mr. Williams pointed out. Are _all_ the free PDF viewers running under Debian in accordance with this principle? -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.a

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Neil Williams wrote: > On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:31:30 +0200 > Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > > Anti-features like locking and password protection are not supported > and, if implemented, could make the free software tools appear non-free > by restricting the functionality available to the user. In t

Re: Light automatically and randomly reduces some secs. after it has been set to its maximum level

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Camaleón writes: > On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:33:32 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > >> As stated in the title, the light on my Asus EEE 1000HE automatically >> and randomly reduces some seconds after I have set it to its maximum >> level. Why? That must b

Re: Light automatically and randomly reduces some secs. after it has been set to its maximum level

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Camaleón writes: > On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:33:32 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > >> As stated in the title, the light on my Asus EEE 1000HE automatically >> and randomly reduces some seconds after I have set it to its maximum >> level. Why? That must b

Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread I Rattan
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010, Merciadri Luca wrote: Hi, I have written a PDF that I have blocked for printing, etc. Acrobat Reader won't print it, because of the restrictions defined on the PDF file's content. However, KPDF accepts printing it, and extracting content from it, etc., even if these actio

PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?

2010-04-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Hi, I have written a PDF that I have blocked for printing, etc. Acrobat Reader won't print it, because of the restrictions defined on the PDF file's content. However, KPDF accepts printing it, and extracting content from it, etc., even if these actions are unauthorized with acroread. Is it normal?

Re: Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-19 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 09:16 -0400, B. Alexander wrote: > I've got an issue with a sid box that I have been maintaining for a while. > This > is my workstation, and I have noticed a growing number of broken packages, > unmet dependencies and conflicts. I have been using safe-upgrade for months >

X Window System on Samsung n210 (Intel GMA 3150)

2010-04-19 Thread Quique
Hi, I've bought a Samsung n210 netbook, which has an Intel GMA 3150 graphics card. I've installed Debian testing on it, and KDE 4.4 from experimental. Unfortunately the graphical interface doesn't work properly. When xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.11.0-1 is installed, the X window system doesn't st

Increasing number of conflicts

2010-04-19 Thread B. Alexander
I've got an issue with a sid box that I have been maintaining for a while. This is my workstation, and I have noticed a growing number of broken packages, unmet dependencies and conflicts. I have been using safe-upgrade for months now, hoping that it would work itself out over time. However, this h

Re: sharing NFS folder in multiples servers

2010-04-19 Thread Alexander Samad
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Israel Garcia wrote: > Hi again: > > I have a big NFS partition shared and mounted on 3 debian serves > (mountpoint /snapshosts). NFS partition es ext3 and I have a backup > script, on every server, which makes a tar from some lvm snaphost . > I mean, my 3 serve

Re: Broken Debian's testing migration (grave bug in module-init-tools)

2010-04-19 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2010-04-12 12:55:59 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-04-12 12:21 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > Moreover, with the current status of module-init-tools, it seems > > that the broken version will get into squeeze anyway (at least, > > there doesn't seem to be anything to prevent that) if

Re: xorg synaptics driver no longer working with udev?

2010-04-19 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Florian Kulzer schreef: > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 23:27:41 +0200, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > > [...] > >> Hal is certainly no longer working, see #567389. Yet, udev now also >> stopped working... > > OK, I think I understand a little bit better how this is supposed to be > working now. Try to add

Re: USB device attached via RS232 adaptor

2010-04-19 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Yes.  If you used a semi-competent MUA, you'd see that. > I know, they all have their tradeoffs. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user

Re: USB device attached via RS232 adaptor

2010-04-19 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 19 April 2010 12:15, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-19 02:54, Dotan Cohen wrote: >>> >>> So, is does this SC reader (a) serial-over-USB or (b) USB-over-serial? >>> >> >> I should imagine (b), but I have not gotten there yet to see. >> > > Then he probably is clueless. > Well, he is turning to

Re: USB device attached via RS232 adaptor

2010-04-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-19 04:24, Dotan Cohen wrote: Why plonk me? Surely this is not the last Etch machine out there? In any case, I could probably convince him to upgrade if you think that Etch is not up to the task. You completely missed (probably because gmail's web interface so incredibly sucks) why he

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