Re: Version mismatch between kqemu module and qemu

2009-06-23 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, me: > NOTE: the *kvm-modules-2.6.26-2-686* package was created by compiling * > kvm-source*. Things become more and more strange to me: 1. I have done dpkg -P qemu* kvm* Now when I simply install qemu from a DVD and try to run the machine: qemu-system-x86_6

is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
2009/6/24 Hal Vaughan : > > On Jun 23, 2009, at 10:57 AM, 明覺 wrote: > >> 2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan : >>> >>> On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:10 PM, 明覺 wrote: >>> 2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan : > > On Jun 22, 2009, at 8:00 AM, 明覺 wrote: > ... > > Looks like a strange idea to me to run a

X-server restart console command

2009-06-23 Thread Sthu Deus
Good day. I have a dell laptop on which after latest bios update, in X, the keyboard often becomes unworkable (as well as impossible to switch to console). So I try to solve it w/ X-server restart. But as I have only mouse working and would not to have a logout dialog every time I quit KDE, I woul

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
2009/6/24 Hal Vaughan : > > On Jun 23, 2009, at 10:02 PM, 明覺 wrote: > >> 2009/6/23 Jeff Soules : I open this thread as a programmer, you can ignore my questions about programming in the future, but you should not ignore my questions as a debian user. >>> >>> Right now you are s

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Cowley Harris wrote: > This guy asked a relatively simple question which I'm paraphrasing > here as "can you run Debian without perl or python", the answer is > pretty much no. > He gave his reasons for the question and his opinion on the answers he > was given. He

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:18:16 +0800 > 明覺 wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: >> > 明覺 writes: >> >> yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take full >> >> control of my system, and modify the

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:39:53 +0800 > 明覺 wrote: > >> 2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan : >> > >> > On Jun 22, 2009, at 9:18 PM, 明覺 wrote: >> > >> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: >> >>> >> >>> 明覺 writes: >> >> yes, currentl

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 01:43:35PM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > > > > What about XML, YAML, HTML, javascript, and such? No more browser? No > > more internet? :-) > Of course I will use all of them, I even use windows vista everyday > for playing games, that's my user role; for my programmer role, I will > u

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:22:38 +0800 > 明覺 wrote: > >> 2009/6/22 Peter Crawford : >> > >> > Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >> >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >> >> python or perl or any other

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:21:22 -0400 > Hal Vaughan wrote: > >> > ... >> >> I'm being blunt, but, honestly, I run a business on custom software >> I've written and I can do it because I learned from those who knew >> more than I did. If I refus

Re: Lenny does not recognise blank CD; Etch does.

2009-06-23 Thread Bruce Ward
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 07:35 +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 16:49 +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 12:18 +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > > > On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 21:35 +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 16:35 +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: >

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > 2009/6/21 明覺 : >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to >> reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, >> and of cau

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:13:29AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > Thank you, my plan is to first learn C/C++, then learn other > languages, I learn other languages in order to extract out their > advantages into C/C++, not for using them, of cause, before I have the > ability to modify the g++ compilers as I l

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Cowley Harris
This guy asked a relatively simple question which I'm paraphrasing here as "can you run Debian without perl or python", the answer is pretty much no. He gave his reasons for the question and his opinion on the answers he was given. He's also started probably the most interesting thread on this lis

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:51:34 -0400 Dale Harris wrote: > Ah, but one is fabeled. Obviously you've never heard this ancient > saying... > > One Language to rule them all, One Language to find them, > One Language to bring them all and in the darkness bind them > In the Land of Redmond where the Sh

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Andreas Juch
Am Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:13:29 +0800 schrieb 明覺 : > Thank you, my plan is to first learn C/C++, then learn other > languages, I learn other languages in order to extract out their > advantages into C/C++, not for using them, of cause, before I have the > ability to modify the g++ compilers as I like

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Jun 23, 2009, at 10:02 PM, 明覺 wrote: 2009/6/23 Jeff Soules : I open this thread as a programmer, you can ignore my questions about programming in the future, but you should not ignore my questions as a debian user. Right now you are showing that you're a person who asks for advice, b

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Napoleon
Dale Harris wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 09:28:10PM -0400, Napoleon wrote: You just don't get it, do you? There are different programming languages because there are NEEDS for different programming languages. There will NEVER be one programming language which meets all requirements. Just lik

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Celejar
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Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Jun 23, 2009, at 9:51 PM, Dale Harris wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 09:28:10PM -0400, Napoleon wrote: You just don't get it, do you? There are different programming languages because there are NEEDS for different programming languages. There will NEVER be one programming language whic

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Jerry Stuckle
Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Jun 23, 2009, at 9:13 PM, 明覺 wrote: >>> ... >>> I think the OP need to spend some time with Haskel, Erlang, Prolog, and >>> Lisp. Only *then* can you truly learn to *hate* non C-based >>> languages. ;) >> Thank you, my plan is to first learn C/C++, then learn other >> la

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
2009/6/23 Jeff Soules : >> I open this thread as a programmer, you can ignore my questions about >> programming in the future, but you should not ignore my questions as a >> debian user. > > Right now you are showing that you're a person who asks for advice, > but does not listen to the response.

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <752a747f-7c2d-4f79-92e5-915e15df0...@halblog.com>, Hal Vaughan wrote: >On Jun 23, 2009, at 9:13 PM, 明覺 wrote: >>> I think the OP need to spend some time with Haskel, Erlang, Prolog, >>> and >>> Lisp. Only *then* can you truly learn to *hate* non C-based >>> languages. ;) >> >> [...] modify the

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Neal Hogan
2009/6/23 明覺 : > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith > Jr. wrote: >> In <20090623111601.gp19...@wasteland.homelinux.net>, Jochen Schulz wrote: >>>明覺: thanks, but before I got the benifit of so many languages, I have been tired of learning them, maybe it cannot be called "

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Dale Harris
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 09:28:10PM -0400, Napoleon wrote: > > You just don't get it, do you? There are different programming > languages because there are NEEDS for different programming languages. > There will NEVER be one programming language which meets all > requirements. Just like there are

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Napoleon
明覺 wrote: > dynamic typing is so easy, for every object is a piece of memory, so a > dynamic type is just a memory type. > I believe every language has its own advantages, my solution is to > integrate all the advantages of all the languages into one language, > which can be called any name, not on

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Jun 23, 2009, at 9:13 PM, 明覺 wrote: ... I think the OP need to spend some time with Haskel, Erlang, Prolog, and Lisp. Only *then* can you truly learn to *hate* non C-based languages. ;) Thank you, my plan is to first learn C/C++, then learn other languages, I learn other languages in ord

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Jun 23, 2009, at 8:34 PM, 明覺 wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 17:40 +0800, 明覺 wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: I want to keep the programs in my system all

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Jun 23, 2009, at 8:32 PM, 明覺 wrote: ... I open this thread as a programmer, you can ignore my questions about programming in the future, but you should not ignore my questions as a debian user. I don't know if your culture is aware of the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf," but you mi

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:39:53AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >> 2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan : >> > > [...] >> > Boy, I didn't realize that by "junior programmer" you meant you were that >> > inexperienced in the field. I don't know if you realize that y

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <20090623111601.gp19...@wasteland.homelinux.net>, Jochen Schulz wrote: >>明覺: >>> thanks, but before I got the benifit of so many languages, I have been >>> tired of learning them, maybe it cannot be called "learning", it's >>> jus

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 23 June 2009 03:35:08 明覺 wrote: >> I open this thread as a programmer, you can ignore my questions about >> programming in the future, but you should not ignore my questions as a >> debian user. > > a) Why *shouldn't* we ignore your D

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Jochen Schulz wrote: > 明覺: >> >> thanks, but before I got the benifit of so many languages, I have been >> tired of learning them, maybe it cannot be called "learning", it's >> just some parallel memory, for none of them bring new concepts to >> C/C++. > > This is p

Re: X freezes

2009-06-23 Thread Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:37:22PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:36:40 +, Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson wrote: > > Hey all > > > > When booting using kernel 2.6.29 my X freezes > > Does the rest of the system still work when that happens? (e.g. VT switch, > ssh, > ALT-Sy

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:52:41 -0400 Jeff Soules wrote: ... > Quick storytime: Several years back, I was writing some XML format > converters in Perl. There are wonderful pre-written Perl modules to > parse and output XML. But I wanted to "learn more," so I insisted on > doing it all myself. (M

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Richard Hector wrote: > On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 12:21 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: >> On Jun 22, 2009, at 8:00 AM, 明覺 wrote: >> ... > >> >> >> >> >> >> Beggers can't be choosers. >> >> >> > you treat yourself a begger, I'm not, I'm a chooser. Happy begging >> > to you!

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 17:40 +0800, 明覺 wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: >> > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >> >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >> >> pytho

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread 明覺
2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan : > > On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:35 PM, 明覺 wrote: > >> 2009/6/23 Napoleon : >>> >>> 明覺 wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: > > 明覺 writes: >> >> yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take >> full >>

thanks for help with printer

2009-06-23 Thread Jude DaShiell
A friend came over and the printer now is alive and working. It does need a new printer cartridge and I know where to get those so should be printing in a few days. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@

Re: Show me locale fomats

2009-06-23 Thread Kelly Clowers
2009/6/23 Dotan Cohen : >> Normally you don't need to know.  You use strptime(3) to print the >> date and/or time.  For example, strptime("%c", ...).  The manual >> page will give you the detail. >> >> To get the format string, do: >> locale -k d_fmt >> d_fmt="%d/%m/%y" >> (en_GB) >> >> A list of k

Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-23 Thread Andreas Juch
Am Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:03:57 -0500 schrieb Curtis Tyndall : > I was able to get the interface to stop crashing everytime it tried > to load. My work computer is working great now. However, my home > computer, I can get to the desktop and the screen resolution/sync is > set properly, but the iss

Re: How do you get aptitude to do what you want?

2009-06-23 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 15:47, lee wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 04:58:21PM -0500, green wrote: >> lee wrote at 2009-06-23 14:13 -0500: >> > I'm trying to upgrade my testing installation, but aptitude keeps yelp >> > in its current state, claiming that upgrading yelp would break a >> > dependenc

Re: Can postfix misconfiguration lead to OS breakage?

2009-06-23 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 01:33:17AM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Is there a possible misconfiguration on postfix that can lead to an OS > breakage up to root privileges? You can probably screw up any service if you try hard enough. Postfix is relatively secure, at least when compared to sendmail. As

Re: lp/lpr can't print from cups client

2009-06-23 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 02:52:26PM -0400, John wrote: > Following Ben Finney's finding under Bug #530027, I downgraded > everything cups to 1.3.8-1lenny5. That in turn required a frightening I'm pretty sure it's a regression or incompatibility. So, I've gone ahead and filed a bug against the pack

Re: What are kernel patches for?

2009-06-23 Thread Andreas Juch
Am Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:31:51 -0600 schrieb lee : > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:09:22PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > > No, it is as Kumar said. And you don't have to download the full > > source if you have 2.6.29 already. With your proposal, you would > > need 2.6.29, _every_ patch-2.6.29.y and ap

Re: What are kernel patches for?

2009-06-23 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 04:09:51PM -0600, lee wrote: > > Look at the "alternatives to patch" section here. Specifically, the > > interdiff part: > > > > http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/applying-patches.txt > > > > That should handle your problem. > > Thanks, I've seen that and it to

Re: How do you get aptitude to do what you want?

2009-06-23 Thread green
lee wrote at 2009-06-23 17:47 -0500: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 04:58:21PM -0500, green wrote: > > Initially I was not aware of the accept and reject options given by the > > resolver, so when something was broken, I just kept pressing '.' to run > > through > > lots of options. Keys 'a' and 'r'

Re: How do you get aptitude to do what you want?

2009-06-23 Thread lee
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 04:58:21PM -0500, green wrote: > lee wrote at 2009-06-23 14:13 -0500: > > I'm trying to upgrade my testing installation, but aptitude keeps yelp > > in its current state, claiming that upgrading yelp would break a > > dependency with gman. But gman is not even installed. >

Re: How do you get aptitude to do what you want?

2009-06-23 Thread lee
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 09:12:35PM +, s. keeling wrote: > > Aptitude always acts so weird :( What's the problem with it? Dselect > > always just did what I wanted it to do. > > I've always suspected that apt/aptitude's not at fault. I seldom run > into this stuff, I suspect, by simply esche

Re: What are kernel patches for?

2009-06-23 Thread lee
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:09:22PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > No, it is as Kumar said. And you don't have to download the full source > if you have 2.6.29 already. With your proposal, you would need 2.6.29, > _every_ patch-2.6.29.y and apply them consecutively -- this becomes > rather tedious if

Re: What are kernel patches for?

2009-06-23 Thread lee
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:09:22PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2009-06-23 21:30 +0200, lee wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 01:44:21PM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > >> > >> I believe that the patch-2.6.29.x applies against the tree of 2.6.29, > >> which is why some hunks would already be

Re: SSH tutorial / Monkeysphere

2009-06-23 Thread green
Suno Ano wrote at 2009-06-12 18:40 -0500: > Hi folks, I have wrote an SSH tutorial which I wanted to share > > http://sunoano.name/ws/public_xhtml/ssh.html > > Particularly the Monkeysphere part. Imho that project deserves our > attention as it certainly is something considerably important. Good

CUPS print jobs get interrupted, lost

2009-06-23 Thread Kenward Vaughan
Somewhere in the last few updates of my Sid system I noticed that print jobs in process get lost if another job comes along behind it, whether from my own machine or another one on the LAN. I have an HP 1200 (parallel) and use this machine as the CUPS server. A current job of 4 pages might print

Re: What are kernel patches for?

2009-06-23 Thread lee
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 02:53:25PM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 01:30:43PM -0600, lee wrote: > > > I believe that the patch-2.6.29.x applies against the tree of 2.6.29, > > > which is why some hunks would already be present if you try to apply > > > it against 2.6.29.4. > >

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Jochen Schulz
Micha Feigin: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:39:53 +0800 > 明覺 wrote: > >> Then what's the only one language for linux? I think >> it's C/C++. > > I'm afraid you are out of luck. All the init scripts are as the name sugests, > scripts (you may get away without bash but you won't get away without sh whi

Re: Show me locale fomats

2009-06-23 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 17:52:01 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 07:24:54PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: [...] > > I see, thanks. Other than changing my locale to a foreign locale > > (well, ok, US is a foreign locale for me but there is a reason that I > > keep it), is there a w

Re: How do you get aptitude to do what you want?

2009-06-23 Thread green
lee wrote at 2009-06-23 14:13 -0500: > I'm trying to upgrade my testing installation, but aptitude keeps yelp > in its current state, claiming that upgrading yelp would break a > dependency with gman. But gman is not even installed. One thing that has helped me with aptitude is actually using the

Re: X freezes

2009-06-23 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:36:40 +, Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson wrote: > Hey all > > When booting using kernel 2.6.29 my X freezes Does the rest of the system still work when that happens? (e.g. VT switch, ssh, ALT-SysRq) > but not when using > kernel

Re: Configure Fibre Channel HBA on Debian Lenny Sparc

2009-06-23 Thread Gilles Mocellin
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 01:36:14PM +0200, Sten Ring wrote: > Hello! > > We have a SunBlade T6300 running a 2.6.26-2-sparc64-smp and equipped with an > Emulex Zephyr-X LightPulse Fibre Channel Host Adapter. I'm trying to connect > to a Sun StoreEdge 3510 with five scsi discs. > > Machine seems to

Re: How do you get aptitude to do what you want?

2009-06-23 Thread s. keeling
lee : > > I'm trying to upgrade my testing installation, but aptitude keeps yelp > in its current state, claiming that upgrading yelp would break a > dependency with gman. But gman is not even installed. > > When I mark yelp as upgradeable, it says that it would break > scrollkeeper. So I te

Re: Debian menu with metacity

2009-06-23 Thread Gilles Filippini
Tom a écrit : > The following steps worked for me: > > 1. Select "Edit Menus" by either right clicking the Main Menu icon on > the tool bar or by going to the Main Menu link in the Control Center. > > 2. Highlight Applications, find Debian under the Items column and enter > tic mark. Worked for

Re: Final Divorce from Knoppix HDinstall

2009-06-23 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-06-23 21:23 +0200, David Baron wrote: > I started out with a hd install of Knoppix 3.3. This was excellent, simple to > install (though getting sound a ADSL pptp was tricky at first!) I used that > happily until I discovered apt-get updates and upgrades. The system has been > steadily u

Re: What are kernel patches for?

2009-06-23 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-06-23 21:30 +0200, lee wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 01:44:21PM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote: >> >> I believe that the patch-2.6.29.x applies against the tree of 2.6.29, >> which is why some hunks would already be present if you try to apply >> it against 2.6.29.4. >> >> The easiest sol

Re: Backup config files in home directory

2009-06-23 Thread Alan Chandler
Alan Chandler wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 01:01:52AM +0800, ronggui wong wrote: I have other files and directories in the home directory, and I just want to backup all the config files, most of them are hidden files and directories. Now I use tar and manually exclude

pings being dropped

2009-06-23 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
I've noticed that if I use "ping -A" that the kernel starts discarding packets after the first few, only registering every 5th ping. I'm pretty sure this is a flood control measure, but it's interfering with measuring my cable modem for drops, so I'd like to disable this "feature." Is there a sysc

cyrus missing socket

2009-06-23 Thread Maria McKinley
Hello, I seem to be having problems with cyrus, because for some reason the lmtp socket is missing. I thought cyrus would create the socket, after I added the following line to cyrus.conf and restarted: lmtpunixcmd="lmtpd" listen="/var/run/cyrus/socket/lmtp" prefork=0 maxchild=20 But, i

Re: What are kernel patches for?

2009-06-23 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 01:30:43PM -0600, lee wrote: > > I believe that the patch-2.6.29.x applies against the tree of 2.6.29, > > which is why some hunks would already be present if you try to apply > > it against 2.6.29.4. > > > > The easiest solution is to get the full 2.6.29.5 tree, or get the

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
2009/6/23 Micha Feigin : > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:41:44 -0700 > Hilco Wijbenga wrote: >> "A similar study was later made of Debian Linux version 2.2 (also >> known as "Potato"); this version of Linux was originally released in >> August 2000. This study found that Debian Linux 2.2 included over 55

Re: What are kernel patches for?

2009-06-23 Thread lee
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 01:44:21PM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:41:45PM -0600, lee wrote: > > Hi, > > > > what are kernel patches for when they cannot be applied? I'm getting: > > > > > > l...@cat:~/inst/KERNEL/linux-2.6.29.4$ patch -p1 < patch-2.6.29.5 > > patching

Final Divorce from Knoppix HDinstall

2009-06-23 Thread David Baron
I started out with a hd install of Knoppix 3.3. This was excellent, simple to install (though getting sound a ADSL pptp was tricky at first!) I used that happily until I discovered apt-get updates and upgrades. The system has been steadily upgraded to Sid, 2.6.30 custom kerenel, KDE 4.2.2, etc.

Re: linux-image-2.6.30-1-686: USB disk fails to show at initramfs

2009-06-23 Thread lee
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:00:41AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > I installed linux-image-2.6.30-1-686 on Sid and got an error: > > In the very beginning at the initramfs phase only one of my 2 USB disks > shows up, causing the boot to fail because partitions from that drive > are in /

Debian Etch r8 64bit installation problem

2009-06-23 Thread Richard Pijnenburg
Hi all, I've downloaded the newest PXE files from the mirror for the 64bit version. I've tried 3 different mirrors but i still get the error regarding the key signing which i had before also after the key change. The 32bit version I've updated works perfectly but 64bit doesn't. Is this a known

How do you get aptitude to do what you want?

2009-06-23 Thread lee
Hi, I'm trying to upgrade my testing installation, but aptitude keeps yelp in its current state, claiming that upgrading yelp would break a dependency with gman. But gman is not even installed. When I mark yelp as upgradeable, it says that it would break scrollkeeper. So I tell it to purge scroll

Re: What are kernel patches for?

2009-06-23 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:41:45PM -0600, lee wrote: > Hi, > > what are kernel patches for when they cannot be applied? I'm getting: > > > l...@cat:~/inst/KERNEL/linux-2.6.29.4$ patch -p1 < patch-2.6.29.5 > patching file Documentation/filesystems/Locking > Reversed (or previously applied) patch

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:18:16 +0800 明覺 wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: > > 明覺 writes: > >> yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take full > >> control of my system, and modify them as i like, if I have those other > >> language programmed sof

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:39:53 +0800 明覺 wrote: > 2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan : > > > > On Jun 22, 2009, at 9:18 PM, 明覺 wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: > >>> > >>> 明覺 writes: > > yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take full >

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:22:38 +0800 明覺 wrote: > 2009/6/22 Peter Crawford : > > > > Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > >> reach it? > > >

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:41:44 -0700 Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > 2009/6/21 明覺 : > > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > > python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > > reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, > > and

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:21:22 -0400 Hal Vaughan wrote: > ... > > I'm being blunt, but, honestly, I run a business on custom software > I've written and I can do it because I learned from those who knew > more than I did. If I refused to learn from people on this and other > lists, I'd be

What are kernel patches for?

2009-06-23 Thread lee
Hi, what are kernel patches for when they cannot be applied? I'm getting: l...@cat:~/inst/KERNEL/linux-2.6.29.4$ patch -p1 < patch-2.6.29.5 patching file Documentation/filesystems/Locking Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n] I haven't applied a patch previously, an

Re: looking for a debian compatible usb audio interface

2009-06-23 Thread ghe
On 6/23/09 10:34 AM, Raffaele Morelli wrote: Result are strictly related to AD converters inside the sound card, ie, bytes are bytes whether they are coming from usb or pci or firewire. BTW, what do you mean with poor results? Signal to noise, I'd guess. The inside of a computer box is not an

Re: looking for a debian compatible usb audio interface

2009-06-23 Thread Allan Wind
On 2009-06-23T18:11:42, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Where did you get this information? What changed within the > specifications between 1.1 and 2.0 so that they require a separate driver? linux-audio-us...@lists.linuxaudio.org When I looked into this a few months back I was not able to find an

Re: Version mismatch between kqemu module and qemu

2009-06-23 Thread me
hi, seems that you've mixed *qemu* with *kvm* packages, here my *kvm*installation (debian testing): $ dpkg -l | grep kvm ii kvm 72+dfsg-5 Full virtualization on x86 hardware ii kvm-modules-2.6.26-2-686 72+dfsg-5+2.6.26-15lenny2 kvm modules for Linux (ker

Re: Show me locale fomats

2009-06-23 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 07:24:54PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Normally you don't need to know.  You use strptime(3) to print the > > date and/or time.  For example, strptime("%c", ...).  The manual > > page will give you the detail. > > > > To get the format string, do: > > locale -k d_fmt > > d

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
2009/6/21 明覺 : > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, > and of cause, I losed my desktop, is it possible to install a desktop >

Re: looking for a debian compatible usb audio interface

2009-06-23 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2009/6/23 Bernard : > My purpose is to digitalize vinyl records. Using my default audio card gave > poor results. On an audio forum, it was stated that I couldn't expect good > results unless I use a usb audio interface. Lots of them on the market, but > I'd be interrested to hear someone saying th

Re: Show me locale fomats

2009-06-23 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Normally you don't need to know.  You use strptime(3) to print the > date and/or time.  For example, strptime("%c", ...).  The manual > page will give you the detail. > > To get the format string, do: > locale -k d_fmt > d_fmt="%d/%m/%y" > (en_GB) > > A list of keywords is found in locale(5). >

Re: Show me locale fomats

2009-06-23 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 05:17:31PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 06:54:34PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > by issuing the locale command. > > > > > > > I mean, let's say that I want -mm-dd date format? What command can > > I give to show me which locale I must configure

Re: Printing aspx pages in Iceweasel gets truncated?

2009-06-23 Thread Andreas Juch
Am Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:39:01 +0200 schrieb Svante R Signell : > Hi, > > Sorry for disturbing, but I have a problem that Googling around did > not give an immediate anser to. Printing an .aspx page only one page > is printed (sometimes two, the second only containing the header), > the rest of the

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 16:12:26 Tony Baldwin wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 23 June 2009 03:18:34 明覺 wrote: > >> I believe readers of this thread are all advanced programmers, > > > > I'm not. > > > >> they > >> won't be confusing. > > > > You mean confused not confusing. An important

Re: Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-23 Thread Curtis Tyndall
I was able to get the interface to stop crashing everytime it tried to load. My work computer is working great now. However, my home computer, I can get to the desktop and the screen resolution/sync is set properly, but the issue is that now about an inch of the right/bottom of the screen is

Re: Show me locale fomats

2009-06-23 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 06:54:34PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > by issuing the locale command. > > > > I mean, let's say that I want -mm-dd date format? What command can > I give to show me which locale I must configure to get that format? Normally you don't need to know. You use strptime(3

Re: looking for a debian compatible usb audio interface

2009-06-23 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Allan Wind wrote: > Linux support the USB 1.1 audio specification, and if the device > is compliant it just works. USB 2 devices require a driver for > each device. Where did you get this information? What changed within the specifications between 1.1 and 2.0 so that they require a separate dri

Re: Student filter breaking Debian installs

2009-06-23 Thread Berni Elbourn
Florian Kulzer wrote: As far as I understand it, apt(itude) should realize that there are no Translation-en_GB.* files in the main/i18n directory and therefore it should ignore the translation and move on. Is it possible that your filtering/proxy setup returns some notification text (instead of a

Re: looking for a debian compatible usb audio interface

2009-06-23 Thread Tim Beauregard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bernard wrote: > My purpose is to digitalize vinyl records. Using my default audio card > gave poor results. On an audio forum, it was stated that I couldn't > expect good results unless I use a usb audio interface. Lots of them on I bought Edirol 1A-

linux-image-2.6.30-1-686: USB disk fails to show at initramfs

2009-06-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, I installed linux-image-2.6.30-1-686 on Sid and got an error: In the very beginning at the initramfs phase only one of my 2 USB disks shows up, causing the boot to fail because partitions from that drive are in /etc/fstab. It's always the same one that fails to show up. Never happened in

Re: Show me locale fomats

2009-06-23 Thread Dotan Cohen
> by issuing the locale command. > I mean, let's say that I want -mm-dd date format? What command can I give to show me which locale I must configure to get that format? Sorry for not asking a clear question. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Jeff Soules
> I open this thread as a programmer, you can ignore my questions about > programming in the future, but you should not ignore my questions as a > debian user. Right now you are showing that you're a person who asks for advice, but does not listen to the response. People value their time and wil

Re: looking for a debian compatible usb audio interface

2009-06-23 Thread Allan Wind
On 2009-06-23T16:47:18, Bernard wrote: > My purpose is to digitalize vinyl records. Using my default audio card > gave poor results. On an audio forum, it was stated that I couldn't > expect good results unless I use a usb audio interface. Lots of them on > the market, but I'd be interrested

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-23 Thread Henning Follmann
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:39:53AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > 2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan : > > [...] > > Boy, I didn't realize that by "junior programmer" you meant you were that > > inexperienced in the field. I don't know if you realize that you've just > > basically said you are either unwilling or unable t

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