Re: Network traffic failure after installing Lenny

2009-06-22 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:24:24 -0500 "Alejandro Barocio A." wrote: > 2009/4/15 Alejandro Barocio A. : > > I can't do ping; I haven't tested it on a different network; but my > > stronger suspect is DHCP (for it runs on a WinXP OS). > > > > Neverthless, I never had such problems with Etch or Woody,

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Richard Hector
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 12:21 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Jun 22, 2009, at 8:00 AM, 明覺 wrote: > ... > >> > >> > >> Beggers can't be choosers. > >> > > you treat yourself a begger, I'm not, I'm a chooser. Happy begging > > to you! > > A rose by any other name is still a rose. You can call yo

Re: Dropbox in Lenny 64bit [solved]

2009-06-22 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:20:06 +1200 Jeff wrote: > That site below did the trick! Got dropbox now. > Many thanks > Jeff Glad to be of assistance. Cybe R. Wizard -- Press 'START' to stop Winduhs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsu

Re: Lenny does not recognise blank CD; Etch does.

2009-06-22 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 16:49 +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: > On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 12:18 +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 21:35 +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: > > > On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 16:35 +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 20:21 +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: > > >

Re: Pidgin 2.5.7 backport to Lenny

2009-06-22 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 15:55 +0200, Jens Peter Secher wrote: > I have recompiled pidgin 2.5.7-1 for Lenny and put it at > http://people.debian.org/~jps/lenny/ That's nice. Are you willing to provide security updates? Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org wit

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 17:40 +0800, 明覺 wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible

Debian remote-connection LAN-Internet-LAN

2009-06-22 Thread Mario Batz
Hallo, is it possible to connect a debian-server from my LAN over Internet to the Server in an other LAN (with/-out xterm)? Example: with the free tool logmein.com can i install a small application on the target-pc (only windows) and so i can connect (connection with ssl) with a browser (FF, IE,

Re: Dropbox in Lenny 64bit [solved]

2009-06-22 Thread Jeff
That site below did the trick! Got dropbox now. Many thanks Jeff ManOn Mon, 2009-06-22 at 21:00 -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:01:49 +1200 > Jeff wrote: > > > I haven't yet located Debian > > packages (although I suspect Ubuntu package would work). > > As I suspected,

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:35 PM, 明覺 wrote: 2009/6/23 Napoleon : 明覺 wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: 明覺 writes: yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take full control of my system, and modify them as i like, if I have those other language

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Napoleon
明覺 wrote: > > 2009/6/23 Napoleon : >> >> >> >> And one more thing - you can continue to bitch in this email list, but >> >> if you do, it won't be long before people will stop responding to you - >> >> for ANY post, even when you're asking for help. > > I open this thread as a programmer, you can i

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:18:34 +0800 > 明覺 wrote: > >> I do not think so, every language is a set of hammer, plier and >> screwdriver in my eyes, we just need one. > > Having used a lot of those, "Swiss Army Knife," kinds of tools I can > tell

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:18:34 +0800 明覺 wrote: > I do not think so, every language is a set of hammer, plier and > screwdriver in my eyes, we just need one. Having used a lot of those, "Swiss Army Knife," kinds of tools I can tell you that they are absolute junk and will prefer a single-purpose to

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan : > > On Jun 22, 2009, at 9:18 PM, 明覺 wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: >>> >>> 明覺 writes: yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take full control of my system, and modify them as i like, if I have those ot

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
2009/6/23 Napoleon : > 明覺 wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: >>> 明覺 writes: yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take full control of my system, and modify them as i like, if I have those other language programmed softwares instal

Re: OT: launching jobs in a combined serial parallel way

2009-06-22 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
me wrote: > #!/bin/bash > > prog1 & > prog2 & > > while [ $(ps -A | grep -E 'prog1|prog2') == "0" ] > do > sleep 5 > done > > prog3 > > > more or less like that > You know, I actually started out with something similar. But it has limitations. Let's say you want to launch two sets

Re: OT: launching jobs in a combined serial parallel way

2009-06-22 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
> Are progs a&b yours? Yes. They are mine. > If so, how about having each one check ps for the > other one as part of it's exit. If the other one isn't running, start > progc before exit. > That is a nice idea. I have not thought about it. For now, I will go with Gifford's tip of using the sh

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Nate Bargmann
* 明覺 [2009 Jun 22 21:21 -0500]: > > But, since you seem intent on trolling this list with "my way or the > > highway" type of thinking, I'm posting this in the hopes of not > > confusing anyone who may read this thread later than for your > > edification. > I believe readers of this thread are al

Re: OT: launching jobs in a combined serial parallel way

2009-06-22 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Scott Gifford wrote: > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi writes: > > [...] > >> progc should to be launched only after both proga, progb are finished. >> progc takes another couple of hours to finish. >> >> What is good way to automate this problem (that is no manual >> interaction)? > > In a shell script

Re: any substitute for x window system?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:58:22AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >> I'm looking for a pure c/c++ programmed desktop manager, while the >> xorg is depandent on perl, so i do not like it, is there any graphics >> system which depands only on c/c++ to rep

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * 明覺 [2009 Jun 22 10:00 -0500]: >> 2009/6/22 Osamu Aoki : >> > Hi, >> > >> > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >> >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >> >> python or perl or any other program

Re: OT: launching jobs in a combined serial parallel way

2009-06-22 Thread Scott Gifford
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi writes: [...] > progc should to be launched only after both proga, progb are finished. progc > takes another couple of hours to finish. > > What is good way to automate this problem (that is no manual > interaction)? In a shell script, run proga and progb in the backgroun

Re: Dropbox in Lenny 64bit

2009-06-22 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:01:49 +1200 Jeff wrote: > I haven't yet located Debian > packages (although I suspect Ubuntu package would work). As I suspected, here's a fellow who got it working on Debian using Ubuntu repos: http://tensixtyone.com/perma/dropbox-on-debian Good luck! Cybe R. Wizard --

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Napoleon
明覺 wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: >> 明覺 writes: >>> yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take full >>> control of my system, and modify them as i like, if I have those other >>> language programmed softwares installed in my system, it will be

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Jun 22, 2009, at 9:18 PM, 明覺 wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: 明覺 writes: yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take full control of my system, and modify them as i like, if I have those other language programmed softwares installed in

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
2009/6/22 Peter Crawford : > > Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to >> reach it? > > Eventually you might find DirectFB acceptable. > http://en.wi

Re: Dropbox in Lenny 64bit

2009-06-22 Thread Lachlan
2009/6/23 Kelly Harding : >> >> >> Tried the Ubuntu package without success.(Dependency error) Also tried the >> source package but no luck either. >> Got as far as sudo make install. but said i was not in the sudoers file? >> Jeff >> as root you can add your username to /etc/sudoers to enable sud

installing .debs in $HOME

2009-06-22 Thread jidanni
Wouldn't it be neat if users without root privileges could just install packages anyway on their account. Maybe they could make an entire file tree, (including /home/nurdsome/home/nurdsome/ ?). The problem I'm trying to solve is e.g., Dreamhost, where there are 1000 debs installed, but root is no

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: > 明覺 writes: >> yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take full >> control of my system, and modify them as i like, if I have those other >> language programmed softwares installed in my system, it will be hard to >> main

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Jun 22, 2009, at 8:00 AM, 明覺 wrote: ... Looks like a strange idea to me to run a "one programming language only" system, it would hint that there's a "one fits all" language and other are just for decoration purpose... (Well, some may agree I guess ;-) ) yes, currently, I'm almost a "one

Re: Dropbox in Lenny 64bit

2009-06-22 Thread Kelly Harding
> > > > Tried the Ubuntu package without success.(Dependency error) Also tried the > source package but no luck either. > Got as far as sudo make install. but said i was not in the sudoers file? > Jeff > > Debian by default as far as I recall doens't come with sudo set up, whereas Ubuntu uses it in

Dropbox in Lenny 64bit

2009-06-22 Thread Jeff
> > > Hi, I would like to install Dropbox on my 64 bit Lenny . Wonder if > > there is a package for it somewhere? > > Thanks in advance. > > Jeff > > > Here's where to get it: > https://www.getdropbox.com/downloading?os=lnx > Here's how to do it: > http://adammichaelroach.com/blog/033009/get-dr

Re: OT: launching jobs in a combined serial parallel way

2009-06-22 Thread ghe
On 6/22/09 6:32 PM, me wrote: 2009/6/23 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi I have three programs - say proga, progb, progc. proga, progb are completely independent. They take couple of hours to finish. The time to complete proga, progb are not same. progc should to be launched only after both proga, prog

Re: OT: launching jobs in a combined serial parallel way

2009-06-22 Thread me
Hi, I didn't test that script, just writing it from memory, but maybe that gives you some ideas: #!/bin/bash prog1 & prog2 & while [ $(ps -A | grep -E 'prog1|prog2') == "0" ] do sleep 5 done prog3 more or less like that greetings, vitaminx 2009/6/23 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi > I h

OT: launching jobs in a combined serial parallel way

2009-06-22 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
I have three programs - say proga, progb, progc. proga, progb are completely independent. They take couple of hours to finish. The time to complete proga, progb are not same. progc should to be launched only after both proga, progb are finished. progc takes another couple of hours to finish. Wha

Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-22 Thread Andreas Juch
Am Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:21:20 +1000 schrieb Lachlan : > i had a lot of trouble in lenny with my HD3870 especially if i didn't > use the proprietary driver (google ati linux driver if you don't have > it) I (Radeon HD 3450) had a lot of trouble with the proprietary drivers. Suspend to RAM resulted

Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-22 Thread Lachlan
2009/6/23 Andreas Juch : > Am Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:06:11 -0500 > schrieb Curtis Tyndall : > >> I have recently installed Debian 5.01 Lenny on my machine.  I used a >> network mirror during the installation.  However, during the initial >> boot after the installation, my graphical interface always cr

Re: cmucl won't uninstall - help

2009-06-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Zachary Uram wrote: >Anyone know how I can get cmucl to be totally removed? Some problem in >the packaging script I guess. Yes. Please file a bug. >Removing cmucl ... >update-binfmts: warning: /var/lib/binfmts/cmucl does not exist; >nothing to do! update-binfmts: exiting due to previous er

Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-22 Thread Andreas Juch
Am Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:06:11 -0500 schrieb Curtis Tyndall : > I have recently installed Debian 5.01 Lenny on my machine. I used a > network mirror during the installation. However, during the initial > boot after the installation, my graphical interface always crashes > right before the login

cmucl won't uninstall - help

2009-06-22 Thread Zachary Uram
Anyone know how I can get cmucl to be totally removed? Some problem in the packaging script I guess. I am running Debian squeeze. lisp# apt-cache policy cmucl cmucl: Installed: 19e-20080501-2 Candidate: 19e-20080501-2 Version table: *** 19e-20080501-2 0 500 http://debian.mirrors.pai

Re: Dropbox in Lenny 64bit

2009-06-22 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:30:16 -0500 "Cybe R. Wizard" wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:31:37 +1200 > Jeff wrote: > > > Hi, I would like to install Dropbox on my 64 bit Lenny . Wonder if > > there is a package for it somewhere? > > Thanks in advance. > > Jeff > > > Here's where to get it: > https

Re: Dropbox in Lenny 64bit

2009-06-22 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:31:37 +1200 Jeff wrote: > Hi, I would like to install Dropbox on my 64 bit Lenny . Wonder if > there is a package for it somewhere? > Thanks in advance. > Jeff > Here's where to get it: https://www.getdropbox.com/downloading?os=lnx Here's how to do it: http://adammichaelr

Dropbox in Lenny 64bit

2009-06-22 Thread Jeff
Hi, I would like to install Dropbox on my 64 bit Lenny . Wonder if there is a package for it somewhere? Thanks in advance. Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: CDBS - how to source a shell fragement before running ./configure?

2009-06-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <4a3fd5fd.60...@aei.mpg.de>, Carsten Aulbert wrote: >I'm currently packaging some "internal" software named gds with the >great CDBS package. However, I have a problem. One of the build >dependencies installs things into a non-standard system location (read >/opt) and I need to source one file t

CDBS - how to source a shell fragement before running ./configure?

2009-06-22 Thread Carsten Aulbert
Hi, I'm currently packaging some "internal" software named gds with the great CDBS package. However, I have a problem. One of the build dependencies installs things into a non-standard system location (read /opt) and I need to source one file to let the configure script know where to look for cert

Re: Can postfix misconfiguration lead to OS breakage?

2009-06-22 Thread Aioanei Rares
Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. Is there a possible misconfiguration on postfix that can lead to an OS breakage up to root privileges? Thank You for Your time. Less likely, I'd say...what exactly is your problem? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subjec

Re: lp/lpr can't print from cups client

2009-06-22 Thread John
On (22/06/09 19:39), Florian Kulzer wrote: | On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 02:24:09 -0700, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: | > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 05:48:15PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: | > None of which really addresses the question of what the error message | > means. | | I decide which questions I conside

Re: Version mismatch between kqemu module and qemu

2009-06-22 Thread me
hi, right now i can't access my server but i'll take a look tomorrow, then i'll write you what i have installed. greetings, vitaminx 2009/6/22 Sthu Deus > Thank You for Your time and answer, me: > > > no, that file is automatically created, if not, a reboot should do it. > > Sorry, but it doe

Re: amavisd-new does not start because of DKIM.pm absence.

2009-06-22 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Matus: > what does the following show? > % apt-cache policy perl amavisd-new libmail-dkim-perl perl: Installed: 5.10.0-22 Candidate: 5.10.0-22 Version table: *** 5.10.0-22 0 500 ftp://mineserv.org testing/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/s

Can postfix misconfiguration lead to OS breakage?

2009-06-22 Thread Sthu Deus
Good day. Is there a possible misconfiguration on postfix that can lead to an OS breakage up to root privileges? Thank You for Your time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Version mismatch between kqemu module and qemu

2009-06-22 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, me: > no, that file is automatically created, if not, a reboot should do it. Sorry, but it does not. I have: kqemu-common 1.3.0~pre11-8 qemu 0.9.1-10 kvm 72+dfsg-5 Which versions do You have? Do I miss something? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-re

Re: genealogy

2009-06-22 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 06:33, gn643202 wrote: > Peter Crawford wrote: >> >> Any advice about choosing one of geneweb, gramps, and lifelines? > >   I can testify only to Gramps.   Very good.  Great development team. Very > active group on mail list: >       Gramps-users mailing list >       gramps-

Re: OSS4

2009-06-22 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:08, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > I just read this: > > http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html > > AFAICU the article recommends throwing out, among other things, > ALSA and pulseaudio, which it has harsh words for, and using OSS

Re: lp/lpr can't print from cups client

2009-06-22 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 02:24:09 -0700, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 05:48:15PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > What kind of upgrades? (In other words: Please tell us which version > > of Debian you are running and how up-to-date it is.) > > Last time I checked was before th

Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-22 Thread Curtis Tyndall
I have recently installed Debian 5.01 Lenny on my machine. I used a network mirror during the installation. However, during the initial boot after the installation, my graphical interface always crashes right before the login screen. I have tried GDM, KDM and XDM for the interfaces, and all

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Nate Bargmann
* 明覺 [2009 Jun 22 10:00 -0500]: > 2009/6/22 Osamu Aoki : > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > >> reach it? > > > > Not y

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:59:18PM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > 2009/6/22 Osamu Aoki : > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > >> reac

Iceweasel 309 and scrollbars

2009-06-22 Thread Christine600
Hi! I use Iceweasel 3.0.9 on Squeeze to read my gmail. Frequently I need to scroll down and click below the knob on the scrollbar to move one page down. But often when I do this and perhaps am a bit slow clicking after positioning the mouse pointer some button with an arrow on it pops up just und

Re: Mono - Which Components 2 Install ?

2009-06-22 Thread Christine600
If you have no old code with dependencies I'd go for the newer *2 versions of Mono. Christine On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 11:51 PM, S. Fishpaste wrote: > Hi; > > I'm planning on installing Mono in order to develop some .NET Web > Applications. Upon getting Aptitude to show me all the 'mono' packag

Re: Debian menu with metacity

2009-06-22 Thread Tom Ashley
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 14:56 +0200, Gilles Filippini wrote: > Hi, > > [please CC me in your reply since I'm not subscribed to the list. tia] > > I can't find a way to have the Debian menu in metacity. > My box is a squeeze mostly up to date with a default gnome desktop config. > Of course, I have

Re: Apache in testing - ServerTokens Prod

2009-06-22 Thread Suno Ano
Ansgar> These settings are set in /etc/apache2/conf.d/security. Changing it Ansgar> there works here. (If you set them in apache2.conf, I suppose you Ansgar> would have to set them after the include directive for conf.d.) Right ... that stuff lives in /etc/apache2/conf.d/security since Lenny n

Re: any substitute for x window system?

2009-06-22 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:58:22AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > I'm looking for a pure c/c++ programmed desktop manager, while the > xorg is depandent on perl, so i do not like it, is there any graphics > system which depands only on c/c++ to replace x window system? thanks I think that you'll find that you

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Tony Baldwin
明覺 wrote: > 2009/6/22 Osamu Aoki : >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >>> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >>> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to >>> reach it? >> Not yet until you help us writing syste

fail2ban block my internet connection

2009-06-22 Thread rabie chami
salvation to everyone I have a problem when I run fail2ban everything works except I have a problem on the internet connection because I have no connection, I think the problem is when fail2ban block ip addresses they do on my router routour therefore for it is blocked it is what it is its the

Re: Backup config files in home directory

2009-06-22 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 01:01:52AM +0800, ronggui wong wrote: > > I have other files and directories in the home directory, and I just > want to backup all the config files, most of them are hidden files and > directories. Now I use tar and manually exclude my other files and > directories with --

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 08:54:02AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Let's throw some data into this discussion: > > LXDE is a rather minimalistic desktop. IceWM is an example of a > resonable (not-so-bloated) window manager. > > $ aptitude why lxde perl ... It looked good but you are missing basic

Re: Cheap Debian VPS servers

2009-06-22 Thread Harry Rickards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/22/09 15:00, Kelly Jones wrote: > Who are the cheapest Debian VPS server providers? > > Reason: I'm setting up a cluster of cheap, small-disk, low-memory > Debian VPSs (running lighttpd, tinydns, etc). For redundancy, I need > VPSs from several

RE: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Peter Crawford
Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > reach it? Eventually you might find DirectFB acceptable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectFB Lack of XDi

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > reach it? Not yet until you help us writing system commands in C/C++. > I removed the 2 packages,

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread John Hasler
明覺 writes: > yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take full > control of my system, and modify them as i like, if I have those other > language programmed softwares installed in my system, it will be hard to > maintain for me. If learning enough of another language to do

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
2009/6/22 Osamu Aoki : > Hi, > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to >> reach it? > > Not yet until you help us writing system commands in C/C

Re: Cheap Debian VPS servers

2009-06-22 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 07:00:11AM -0700, Kelly Jones wrote: > Who are the cheapest Debian VPS server providers? > > Reason: I'm setting up a cluster of cheap, small-disk, low-memory > Debian VPSs (running lighttpd, tinydns, etc). For redundancy, I need > VPSs from several different providers, not

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread John Hasler
明覺 writes: > thanks, but before I got the benifit of so many languages, I have been > tired of learning them, maybe it cannot be called "learning", it's just > some parallel memory, for none of them bring new concepts to C/C++. C/C++ is really just improved FORTRAN. Learn Lisp and Haskell and For

Re: any substitute for x window system?

2009-06-22 Thread Andreas Juch
Am Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:11:59 -0700 schrieb "Todd A. Jacobs" : > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:58:22AM +0800, ?...@k4 wrote: > > > I'm looking for a pure c/c++ programmed desktop manager, while the > > xorg is depandent on perl, so i do not like it, is there any > > graphics system which depands only

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Michael Ekstrand wrote: > 明覺 writes: >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:40:20PM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >>> So does it mean debian determines the use of python and perl? >>> >>> Python? Python is not a dependency.

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On Seg, 22 Jun 2009, 明覺 wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Eduardo M >> KALINOWSKI wrote: >>> >>> If you don't want to learn Perl or Python, then simply don't. You don't >>> have >>> to know the language to run programs writt

Cheap Debian VPS servers

2009-06-22 Thread Kelly Jones
Who are the cheapest Debian VPS server providers? Reason: I'm setting up a cluster of cheap, small-disk, low-memory Debian VPSs (running lighttpd, tinydns, etc). For redundancy, I need VPSs from several different providers, not several VPSs from one provider. Here's what I've found so far (I'm no

Pidgin 2.5.7 backport to Lenny

2009-06-22 Thread Jens Peter Secher
I have recompiled pidgin 2.5.7-1 for Lenny and put it at http://people.debian.org/~jps/lenny/ Cheers, -- Jens Peter Secher. _DD6A 05B0 174E BFB2 D4D9 B52E 0EE5 978A FE63 E8A1 jpsecher gmail com_. A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of disc

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Michael Ekstrand
明覺 writes: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:40:20PM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >> >>> So does it mean debian determines the use of python and perl? >> >> Python? Python is not a dependency. perl-base is. perl is, to a lesser >> extent. > gnome depends on

Re: Apache in testing - ServerTokens Prod

2009-06-22 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, Suno Ano writes: > On some host (debian testing), I am running Apache and tried to add > > ServerSignature Off > ServerTokens Prod > > to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf in order to silence Apache a bit. These settings are set in /etc/apache2/conf.d/security. Changing it there works here. (If y

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Seg, 22 Jun 2009, 明覺 wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: If you don't want to learn Perl or Python, then simply don't. You don't have to know the language to run programs written in it, and you don't need to have plans to modify the programs in order to use the

Debian menu with metacity

2009-06-22 Thread Gilles Filippini
Hi, [please CC me in your reply since I'm not subscribed to the list. tia] I can't find a way to have the Debian menu in metacity. My box is a squeeze mostly up to date with a default gnome desktop config. Of course, I have the package menu installed. And I've ran update-menus several times. But

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On Seg, 22 Jun 2009, 明覺 wrote: >> >> I'm a junior programmer, and I plan to use only c/c++ as my >> programming languages, and I don't like python or perl, I hope all the >> programs in my own system are written only in c/c++ so that I

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明�X
2009/6/22 Neal Hogan : > 2009/6/22 明�X : >> 2009/6/22 Neal Hogan : >>> 2009/6/22 明�X : On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:11 PM, thveillon.debian wrote: >>Sebastian Günther wrote: >> * 明�X (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: >>> I want to keep the programs in my system all written

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:24 PM, thveillon.debian wrote: >>明�X wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:11 PM, >> thveillon.debian wrote: Sebastian Günther wrote: * 明�X (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python

LG evn vx4400 / bitpim - usb port not accessible?

2009-06-22 Thread Tony Baldwin
Hi, I just got an LG evn3 (vx4400). I plug it in and it is seen by lsusb, and, in fact, bitpim can see the phone in the lsusb list, but tells me that the port it is on is not available, and, thus, is not accessing the phone. It says, "port is active, but not available". Any assistance would be ap

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Seg, 22 Jun 2009, 明覺 wrote: I'm a junior programmer, and I plan to use only c/c++ as my programming languages, and I don't like python or perl, I hope all the programs in my own system are written only in c/c++ so that I will be able to modify them someday in the future. thanks If you don't

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
2009/6/22 Sebastian Günther : > On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:40:20 +0800 > 明覺 wrote: > > >> >> thank you for the perfect analysis! so does it mean debian determines >> the use of python and perl? could you help recommend some >> distributions that do not need perl or python? thanks >> > > I do not know

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Neal Hogan
2009/6/22 明�X : > 2009/6/22 Neal Hogan : >> 2009/6/22 明�X : >>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:11 PM, >>> thveillon.debian wrote: >Sebastian Günther wrote: > * 明�X (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >> python or p

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread thveillon.debian
>明覺 wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:11 PM, > thveillon.debian wrote: >>> Sebastian Günther wrote: >>> * 明覺 (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to >>>

Re: house planning software

2009-06-22 Thread dulev
> I was wondering if there is any software that allows building a 3d > model of the house/appartment to help with the planning sweethome3d www.sweethome3d.eu sourceforge.net/projects/sweethome3d -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Apache in testing - ServerTokens Prod

2009-06-22 Thread Suno Ano
On some host (debian testing), I am running Apache and tried to add ServerSignature Off ServerTokens Prod to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf in order to silence Apache a bit. http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/07/22/improve-apache-web-server-security-use-servertokens-and-serversignature-to-disable-hea

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 01:43:02PM +0200, Sebastian Günther wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:40:20 +0800 > 明覺 wrote: > > > thank you for the perfect analysis! so does it mean debian determines > > the use of python and perl? could you help recommend some > > distributions that do not need perl or

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明�X
2009/6/22 Neal Hogan : > 2009/6/22 明�X : >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:11 PM, >> thveillon.debian wrote: Sebastian Günther wrote: * 明�X (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python or perl or any other programm

Re: slime install fails on squeeze

2009-06-22 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-06-22 12:37 +0200, Zachary Uram wrote: > Any ideas what is going on and how to fix this? > > http://zu22.pastebin.com/fef3e71e Don't be afraid to include such output in your mail, it makes reading and replying much easier. The problem is in line 74: Cannot open load file: tramp. Tramp is

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Neal Hogan
2009/6/22 明�X : > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:11 PM, > thveillon.debian wrote: >>>Sebastian Günther wrote: >>> * 明�X (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible t

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Sebastian Günther
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:40:20 +0800 明覺 wrote: > > thank you for the perfect analysis! so does it mean debian determines > the use of python and perl? could you help recommend some > distributions that do not need perl or python? thanks > I do not know any distribution, that does not depend on

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Nate Bargmann
* 明覺 [2009 Jun 22 04:48 -0500]: > 2009/6/22 Sebastian Günther : > > BTW: perl and python are not that hard to learn or read, since their > > main purpose was to help sysadmins to get their jobs done. And mostly > > they are not programming gurus... > yes, they are not hard to learn, but if to lea

Re: strange problem - computer works in one place, but not in another

2009-06-22 Thread gn643202
Lisi Reisz wrote: I then moved the computer to its owner's house,having done the installation at my house. And everything internet-related has gone mad!! Now: Konqueror connects immediately to any site I have tried. Iceweasel connects intermittently: i.e. sometimes connects,sometimes doesn't.

Re: genealogy

2009-06-22 Thread gn643202
Peter Crawford wrote: Any advice about choosing one of geneweb, gramps, and lifelines? I can testify only to Gramps. Very good. Great development team. Very active group on mail list: Gramps-users mailing list gramps-us...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourcef

slime install fails on squeeze

2009-06-22 Thread Zachary Uram
Any ideas what is going on and how to fix this? http://zu22.pastebin.com/fef3e71e Zach -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

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