Re: Where do you put your swap partition?

2008-01-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 19, 2008, at 9:50 PM, Charlie wrote: There would be people who can't afford more RAM, or have machines for which RAM is no longer available I suppose. Well, OK, fair enough. My answer was intentionally a bit flip. Still, with 512 MB of RAM going for $30, someone who can't afford e

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat January 19 2008 22:36:20 Larry Fletcher wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > Larry writes: > > > I know there's a problem with the `resolv.conf` but I don't know how to > > > fix it. > > > > Try "sudo apt-get remove --purge zeroconf". > > It's not installed. I looked at yo

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Larry Fletcher
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Larry writes: > > I know there's a problem with the `resolv.conf` but I don't know how to > > fix it. > Try "sudo apt-get remove --purge zeroconf". It's not installed. Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubsc

Re: problems after latest etch3 xserver upgrade (*fixed*)

2008-01-19 Thread Angus Auld
--- Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings, I had no apparent problems with the > xserver-xorg-core/xnest upgrade from 2:1.1.1-21etch1 > > > 2:1.1.1-21etch2, but with the latest upgrade to > 2:1.1.1-21etch3 I have noted that I am no longer > able > to use vlc media player. I got "BadAl

problems after latest etch3 xserver upgrade

2008-01-19 Thread Angus Auld
Greetings, I had no apparent problems with the xserver-xorg-core/xnest upgrade from 2:1.1.1-21etch1 > 2:1.1.1-21etch2, but with the latest upgrade to 2:1.1.1-21etch3 I have noted that I am no longer able to use vlc media player. I got "BadAlloc" error. I forced a downgrade to the 2:1.1.1-21etch1 (w

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat January 19 2008 21:25:25 Larry Fletcher wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > On Sat January 19 2008 18:55:27 Larry Fletcher wrote: > lotek:~# route > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway GenmaskFlags Metric Ref Use Iface > 192.168.1.0 * 255.255

/etc/modutils/0keep: line 9: keep: command not found

2008-01-19 Thread tom arnall
i interrupted 'apt-get install linux-wlan-ng' and when i did the command again i got at the end of the installation messages: /etc/modutils/0keep: line 9: keep: command not found Error while executing /etc/modutils/0keep, aborting Note: If /etc/modutils/0keep should not be an executable script, p

Re: Where do you put your swap partition?

2008-01-19 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008, David Brodbeck shared this with us all: >--} >--} On Jan 18, 2008, at 2:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >--} > What do you guys think? >--} >--} I think you should add RAM until you don't swap. :) >--} >--} Interesting. It's like people lucky enough to have broadband, thought

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS?

2008-01-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 19, 2008, at 7:17 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: But all of that still gives me no reason to change all of my ext2 partitions to something else. I decided to change the first time I had a server down for an hour because it was waiting for the on-boot fsck to finish... :) -- To UNSUBSC

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 18, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Jimmy Wu wrote: On Jan 18, 2008 4:27 PM, Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: xfs sure does copy and delete really large files faster - I do use it for video at home. How big do files have to be before one starts to notice the advantages of XFS? In my exp

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 18, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Jimmy Wu wrote: (4) ReiserFS can be flaky on a system crash. I haven't found it to be flaky on system crashes. I have found it to be extremely unforgiving of disk corruption and IDE bus problems. I was able to recover the data with reiserfsck, but it took a ve

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Larry Fletcher
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > On Sat January 19 2008 18:55:27 Larry Fletcher wrote: > > I can't find `route`. > Without 'route' your system may be unable to setup > your default route to the internet. I don't understand > what happened to 'route' on your system, as it is part > of t

trying to get the prism2_cs driver to work

2008-01-19 Thread tom arnall
> i'm trying to get the prism2_cs driver to work for a prism2.5 chipset card. so > far i'm stumped at the following output: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo modprobe prism2_cs > WARNING: Error inserting p80211 > (/lib/modules/2.6.16.4/linux-wlan-ng/p80211.ko): Invalid module format > FATAL: Err

Re: laptop adapter on a desktop

2008-01-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 19, 2008, at 12:51 PM, Damon L. Chesser wrote: I have a few laptop ide laptop HDs lying around. I can use an adaptor to run it from my IDE controller on the MB. My question is this: Is there any draw back to doing this? Laptop drives are usually slower and lower in capacity than

Re: Where do you put your swap partition?

2008-01-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 18, 2008, at 2:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you guys think? I think you should add RAM until you don't swap. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS?

2008-01-19 Thread David
Joe Brenner wrote: Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Reiserfs = designed by one person who has had some kind of problems (I haven't looked into it). If damage occurs (e.g. unclean shutdown), may not be able to fix the damage and loses data. I've been using resierfs for some time (i

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread John Hasler
Larry writes: > I know there's a problem with the `resolv.conf` but I don't know how to > fix it. Try "sudo apt-get remove --purge zeroconf". > I can't find `route`. /sbin/route -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [E

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread John Hasler
Mike Bird writes: > Without 'route' your system may be unable to setup your default route to > the internet. I don't understand what happened to 'route' on your system He has it. It is at "/sbin/route". He does not have "/sbin" in his path so when he types "route" as a user it doesn't work. "/

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat January 19 2008 18:55:27 Larry Fletcher wrote: > I can't find `route`. Without 'route' your system may be unable to setup your default route to the internet. I don't understand what happened to 'route' on your system, as it is part of the 'net-tools' package and you have 'ifconfig' which i

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS?

2008-01-19 Thread Joe Brenner
Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reiserfs = designed by one person who has had some kind of problems (I > haven't looked into it). If damage occurs (e.g. unclean shutdown), may > not be able to fix the damage and loses data. I've been using resierfs for some time (including on a fl

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Larry Fletcher
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Hello Larry, I am running debian etch with verizon dsl. I also have the > Westell 6100 dsl modem. I believe that the suggestions you are getting in > regards to dumping everything having to do with pppoe are correct. > Have you gone into the connection

trying to get the prism2_cs driver to work

2008-01-19 Thread tom arnall
i'm trying to get the prism2_cs driver to work for a prism2.5 chipset card. so far i'm stumped at the following output: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo modprobe prism2_cs WARNING: Error inserting p80211 (/lib/modules/2.6.16.4/linux-wlan-ng/p80211.ko): Invalid module format FATAL: Error inserting pris

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Michael D. Norwick
Steve Kemp wrote: On Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 15:32:21 +, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Sometimes some things are just too hard to explain. Such as the correct way to trim extraneous content from mails before replying? Yes I agree. Steve Ouch! Wasn't there just some long drawn out

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 03:54:32PM -0800, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: > Pantor wrote: > >---Mutt: (no mailbox) [Msgs:0]---(date/date)-%>-(all)--- > >No mailbox is open. > > > >Why it is? > > Because you have it configured to look for mail in a different place > from where you have your MTA configur

Re: XServer taken down by Wine segfaults

2008-01-19 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 12:08:59PM -0700, Jonathan Doe wrote: > On Saturday 19 January 2008 07:41:04 am Александър Л. Димитров wrote: > > Probably I should mention I'm using the binary nvidia drivers. Did not try > > it with other drivers yet, but I don't think that should have any impact

Update: Re: GTK update problems

2008-01-19 Thread Marty
Marty wrote: Frank McCormick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anybody notice the menubar missing from apps after the latest GTK update ? This upgrade seems to have broken many packages. In my case, multi-gnome-terminal failed to start, leaving an error message in .xse

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Steve Kemp
On Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 15:32:21 +, Michael D. Norwick wrote: > Sometimes some things are just too hard to explain. Such as the correct way to trim extraneous content from mails before replying? Yes I agree. Steve -- # Commercial Debian GNU/Linux Support http://www.linux-administration.o

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2008-01-19 23:56:57 +, Pantor wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> Because it doesn't know where your email is. You need to tell it. > And how to do that? 3.274. spoolfile Type: path Default: "" If your spool mailbox is in a non-default place where Mutt cannot find it, you can spe

Re: Sarge r7 CDs released

2008-01-19 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Adrian Levi, am Samstag, 19. Januar 2008 um 23:35 schriebst Du: >> After a couple of false starts, we finally have the CDs and DVDs built >> for the latest sarge (oldstable) point release, 3.1 r7. >> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r7/ > On Azureus bittorrent I get the

Re: badblocks -- how much time does it take?

2008-01-19 Thread Towncat
On jan. 18, 21:40, Towncat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On jan. 12, 22:20, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 01/12/08 11:40, Towncat wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I did a > > > > /sbin/badblocks -c 10240 -w -t random -v /dev/sda2 > > > Why? Don't you trust brand new disk drives? > > Wel

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread John Hasler
Larry writes: > Going by the replies I've received, if I use DHCP I will have to use IE > to set the username and password in the modem (the IE I have running > under Wine can't access the modem). Why do you think you have to use IE? The Web server in the modem will work with any browser. Try ht

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor
Chris wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:56:57 + Pantor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 17:25, Pantor wrote: Gerard Robin wrote: [snip] Mutt is an excellent MUA. (Mail User Agent) If mutt is installed on your box go to:

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Chris
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:56:57 + Pantor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 01/19/08 17:25, Pantor wrote: > >> Gerard Robin wrote: > > [snip] > >>> Mutt is an excellent MUA. (Mail User Agent) If mutt is installed > >>>

Re: dhcp lease time

2008-01-19 Thread Jeff Grossman
hce wrote: Hi, My DHCP client has only got 3600 lease time. Can my DHCP client be set up to get longer DHCP lease time? Or, is it controled by DHCP server? Thank you. Jim The lease time is configured on the DHCP server. Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subjec

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 17:25, Pantor wrote: Gerard Robin wrote: [snip] Mutt is an excellent MUA. (Mail User Agent) If mutt is installed on your box go to: /usr/share/doc/mutt/exemples to see examples of files .muttrc (the file of configura

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
Pantor wrote: ---Mutt: (no mailbox) [Msgs:0]---(date/date)-%>-(all)--- No mailbox is open. Why it is? Because you have it configured to look for mail in a different place from where you have your MTA configured to put incoming mail. Fix it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

dhcp lease time

2008-01-19 Thread hce
Hi, My DHCP client has only got 3600 lease time. Can my DHCP client be set up to get longer DHCP lease time? Or, is it controled by DHCP server? Thank you. Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 17:25, Pantor wrote: > Gerard Robin wrote: [snip] >> >> Mutt is an excellent MUA. (Mail User Agent) If mutt is installed on your >> box go to: /usr/share/doc/mutt/exemples >> to see examples of files .muttrc (the file of configuration of mu

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 16:37, Pantor wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/19/08 09:32, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Pantor wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote:

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel shared this with us all: >--} So now I am more or less ready to take the plunge. But I would >--} still like some advice. >--} >--} 1. Is it true that ext3 always lets you recover smoothly after a >--}    "freeze and pull the plug", or after a power cut? Or a

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor
Gerard Robin wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: From: Pantor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Debian user list Subject: How to use Mutt? X-Spam-Virus: No X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on liszt.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.9 r

Re: rsync 10 times slower in Etch than in Sarge!

2008-01-19 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 09:59:50PM +, Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > on Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 12:16:28PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > So does umount. (I see you said that below, but I wanted to underline > > it aga

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-19 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 17/01/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > According to TFA, the events in question happened in Essex, Suffolk, > > and Middlesex Counties of colonial Massachusetts, which are in the > > United States, not Israel. You have me misplaced. > > Although it's been snipped out by now, chai

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread PauL Lane
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 10:09:49AM -0800, Larry Fletcher wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > Larry writes: > > > What I'm thinking is maybe Verizon gives people different modems. My > > > modem says it's a DSL2+Router, so maybe it would work if it was just a > > > DSL2 modem wit

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 09:32, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I hope

Re: Sarge r7 CDs released

2008-01-19 Thread Adrian Levi
On 19/01/2008, Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After a couple of false starts, we finally have the CDs and DVDs built > for the latest sarge (oldstable) point release, 3.1 r7. See > > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r7/ On Azureus bittorrent I get the error: Error(The

Re: unable to su to root, sudo works

2008-01-19 Thread Damon L. Chesser
joseph lockhart wrote: I can log in as root (shown above) both on tty1 and in the GUI (gdm). Running Sid, up to date This is not a show stopper, but it makes me go, "hm". Any ideas? and I can do sudo su. When you are using su, are you using your

Re: [OT] where is conio.h with getch()?

2008-01-19 Thread Sergio Cuéllar Valdés
2008/1/19, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > In looking around after Kent's question on key presses I found getch() > and putch() and the manual (from 1986) says that they are in conio.h. > > But that's no longer around. > > That means getch() and putch() have gone away? In favor of wh

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat January 19 2008 10:09:49 Larry Fletcher wrote: > Going by the replies I've received, if I use DHCP I will have to use > IE to set the username and password in the modem (the IE I have > running under Wine can't access the modem). I think this is probably > true, because I don't see a way to

[OT] where is conio.h with getch()?

2008-01-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, In looking around after Kent's question on key presses I found getch() and putch() and the manual (from 1986) says that they are in conio.h. But that's no longer around. That means getch() and putch() have gone away? In favor of what? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 09:32, Michael D. Norwick wrote: > Pantor wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: > [snip] >> Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? > I hope

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Chris
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:32:21 + "Michael D. Norwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pantor wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: > >>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: > >> [snip]

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new user question:

2008-01-19 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 05:32:25PM -0500, Allan Wind wrote: > On 2008-01-18T14:05:25-0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > > > > (8) Is there any advantage to using ext2 for /boot rather than ext3? > > > > no to either > > /boot should not be a single partition by itself.. > > it is part of /bin, /lib

Re: unable to su to root, sudo works

2008-01-19 Thread joseph lockhart
> >> I can log in as root (shown above) both on tty1 > and in the GUI (gdm). > >> Running Sid, up to date > >> This is not a show stopper, but it makes me go, > "hm". Any ideas? > >> > >> and I can do sudo su. > >> > > > > When you are using su, are you using your password > or root's pa

build the hostap driver under etch

2008-01-19 Thread tom arnall
I'm trying to build the hostap driver under etch. All the items I find on the 'net say to go to the source directory and type 'make'. When I do this I get 'no targets found', which makes total sense since the Makefile references only .o files, and in the same directory there are only source file

How to work with trees ? when working with OpenOffice or dia whatever

2008-01-19 Thread Jabka Atu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good Day ,.. I write a lot of text diagrams and many times i need to represent trees At first i did circles and lines in OO then and dia but i know that this is bad idea so i started to search for fast way but i can't find one. I'm searching for a fa

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Michael D. Norwick
Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I hope not ... Especially for those times when you are rudely reminded

Re: unable to su to root, sudo works

2008-01-19 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Paul Johnson wrote: On Jan 19, 2008 1:03 PM, Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can log in as root (shown above) both on tty1 and in the GUI (gdm). Running Sid, up to date This is not a show stopper, but it makes me go, "hm". Any ideas? and I can do sudo su. When you a

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I hope not ... Especially for those times when you are rudely reminded why Sid is Uns

Re: unable to su to root, sudo works

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 19, 2008 1:03 PM, Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can log in as root (shown above) both on tty1 and in the GUI (gdm). > Running Sid, up to date > This is not a show stopper, but it makes me go, "hm". Any ideas? > > and I can do sudo su. When you are using su, are you us

unable to su to root, sudo works

2008-01-19 Thread Damon L. Chesser
subject says it all, from auth.log: Jan 19 15:56:06 dam-main su[5800]: pam_unix(su:auth): authentication failure; logname=damon uid=1000 euid=1000 tty=pts/2 ruser=damon rhost= user=root Jan 19 15:56:09 dam-main su[5800]: pam_authenticate: Authentication failure Jan 19 15:56:09 dam-main su[580

Re: rsync 10 times slower in Etch than in Sarge!

2008-01-19 Thread Rodolfo Medina
on Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 12:16:28PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> > Why issue a 'sync' instead of just unmounting and waiting until the >> > thing stops flashing? On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 09:24:22AM -0900, Ken Irving <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: >> sync blocks, so you can tell fro

laptop adapter on a desktop

2008-01-19 Thread Damon L. Chesser
I have a few laptop ide laptop HDs lying around. I can use an adaptor to run it from my IDE controller on the MB. My question is this: Is there any draw back to doing this? -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
To the other Mr. Johnson, sorry for the double, I botched the reply/reply to list distinction there. On Jan 19, 2008 12:27 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 01/19/08 13:44, Curt Howland wrote: > > On Saturday 19 January 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel was heard to say: > >> Step 6: type tun

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 02:27:23PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/19/08 13:44, Curt Howland wrote: > > If I may interject, creating the journal just creates a blank file. > > So when does the journaling begin? At remount? Perhaps on the next write once it is mounted as ext3? When the journ

Volume off every time entering X (was: No volume in my Etch box!)

2008-01-19 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On my laptop I installed x-window-system-core and gnome-core and the volume >> control small icon top right on Gnome desktop looks all right. Instead, on >> my desktop PC the same icon is not active, and when I left-click it the >> following message a

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Curt Howland wrote: > If I may interject, creating the journal just creates a blank > file. This would explain why creating the journal does not seem to take any time. But "strings" showed that there was a lot of stuff (at least lots of filenames) in it. Perhaps the journal is *created* as a blan

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 13:44, Curt Howland wrote: > On Saturday 19 January 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel was heard to say: >> Step 6: type tune2fs -j /dev/hda5. The journal was created >> instantaneously (I'd expected this to take a long time. >> but i

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Larry Fletcher
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > I've been using Debian with dial-up for about 8 years and it's getting > > pretty slow, so I thought I would try DSL. The problem is I have > > absolutely no understanding of how DSL works. If I could get a > > connection I don't even understand how t

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] > >> Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? > > I hope not ... Especially for those times when you are rudely reminded why Sid is Unstable, and yo

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 19 January 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel was heard to say: > Step 6: type tune2fs -j /dev/hda5. The journal was created > instantaneously (I'd expected this to take a long time. > but it did not). If I may interject, creating th

what is the difference between hostap and linux-wlan drivers?

2008-01-19 Thread tom arnall
I am configuring a Senao 2511 wireless card (prism2.5 chipset) and keep bumping into descriptions of both the hostap and linux-wlan(-ng) drivers for the chipset. what is the difference? tom arnall arcata -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > Some steps may have been unnecessary, but it seems I have a > working ext3 system now. It is really easy. The real smoke test > will come, of course, when I pull the plug. Will do this now; if > you do not hear from me, the test will have failed. Thanks to all > who res

Re: Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Paul Johnson wrote: > Step 1: Get root privileges. > Step 2: Type tune2fs -j /dev/whatever > Step 3: Remount the filesystem ext3... I did this, and indeed it was amazingly easy. On a partition of about 24 G (well, this is an *old* disk!) a file /.journal of 128 M (indeed much less than 1%) was cr

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 13:03, Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/19/08 12:47, Pantor wrote: Lads, would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt? For example, how to configure mail account settings? Maybe Mutt do

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Gerard Robin
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: From: Pantor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Debian user list Subject: How to use Mutt? X-Spam-Virus: No X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on liszt.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: > Lads, > > would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt? I do not know if you are serious. See "man mutt" and "man muttrc" as starter. Read http://www.mutt.org/ > For example, how to configure mail account setting

RAID5 in three easy steps

2008-01-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You know, after reading all the howtos and such, I created a RAID 5 array with just three commands (after creating the partitions with fdisk) mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda1 /dev/ sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 mkfs.ext3 /dev/md0 /usr/share/mdadm/mkconf > /etc/mdadm/mdadm.co

Re: alsactl names finds nothing - Thanks

2008-01-19 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 13:20:37 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 04:59:11PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] > > The problem might be that snd-via82xx gets loaded first and assigned > > index 0. This would block snd-emu10k1 from having that index and ALSA > > might not

Re: XServer taken down by Wine segfaults

2008-01-19 Thread Jonathan Doe
On Saturday 19 January 2008 07:41:04 am Александър Л. Димитров wrote: > Probably I should mention I'm using the binary nvidia drivers. Did not try > it with other drivers yet, but I don't think that should have any impact on > it - it fails with _anything_ just running wine is enough to bring that

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 12:47, Pantor wrote: Lads, would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt? For example, how to configure mail account settings? Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? Before we answer, tell u

Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-19 Thread Wayne Topa
Kent West([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> Kent West wrote: >>> All I want to do is to detect two keys, say the left- and right-shift >>> keys, or the < and > keys. For one key, a short "dit" audio tone would be >>> generated, and for the other key, a longe

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 12:47, Pantor wrote: > Lads, > > would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt? > For example, how to configure mail account settings? > Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? Before we answer, tell us how much yo

How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor
Lads, would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt? For example, how to configure mail account settings? Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? Thank you. Regards, Andrius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

RE: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Original Message: - From: Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:51:29 -0800 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL I've been using Debian with dial-up for about 8 years and it's getting pretty slow, so I thought I would try DSL. The proble

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Larry Fletcher
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Larry writes: > > What I'm thinking is maybe Verizon gives people different modems. My > > modem says it's a DSL2+Router, so maybe it would work if it was just a > > DSL2 modem without the Router? > Pppoeconfig will work if the modem is configured for b

Re: Interesting Fetchmail Foible

2008-01-19 Thread David Baron
On Friday 18 January 2008, Александър Л. Димитров wrote: > Quoth David Baron: > > On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Александър Л. Димитров wrote: > > > Quoth David Baron: > > > > Would there be any script, option, or such to solve this problem in a > > > > more elegant manner and leave things alone whe

Re: Movies, household network and 54g limits... (maybe...)

2008-01-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Original Message: - From: johnny [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 05:06:01 -0800 (PST) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Movies, household network and 54g limits... (maybe...) > I have no experience with wifi range extenders but it seems to me it > should rea

RSCDS and iceowl (aka sunbird)/iceowl-extension (aka lightning) timezone

2008-01-19 Thread strawks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm now using icedove (aka thunderbird) to manage my calendars and emails. I have a server (debian testing) with RSCDS 0.9.2 installed and it works quite well. For some reason, when I try to create a new event with iceowl, the server says : E

Re: alsactl names finds nothing - Thanks

2008-01-19 Thread Thomas H. George
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 04:59:11PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 09:35:38 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 01:56:46PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 08:23:07 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > > > > Suddenly no sound. Als

One Button Backup--USB External HD

2008-01-19 Thread David Baron
>From Hitachi, WD, other venders. Of course, ship with windows drivers. Anyone used this stuff with Debian? Possible to use as normal HD, i.e., partition it, some for compressed backups, i.e. squashfs or images, some for regular storage? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

Re: Interesting Fetchmail Foible

2008-01-19 Thread David Baron
On Friday 18 January 2008, Александър Л. Димитров wrote: > Quoth David Baron: > > On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Александър Л. Димитров wrote: > > > Quoth David Baron: > > > > Would there be any script, option, or such to solve this problem in a > > > > more elegant manner and leave things alone whe

Re: alsactl names finds nothing

2008-01-19 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 19 January 2008 17:40, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 17:04:24 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > > On Saturday 19 January 2008 15:35, Thomas H. George wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 01:56:46PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > [...] > > > btw Florian, apologies for pokin

Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 19, 2008 9:39 AM, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 02:35:25PM +0100, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > ... > > > > But sometimes bugs in applications can cause a complete freeze of > > X, incl. keyboard and mouse. It happens to me about once a year, > > un

Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 02:35:25PM +0100, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: ... > > But sometimes bugs in applications can cause a complete freeze of > X, incl. keyboard and mouse. It happens to me about once a year, > unfortunately also yesterday evening. In such a case there is > nothing you can do but

Re: la philosophie...

2008-01-19 Thread Infinitize
Dear François Deviere, Please excuse this rather unexpected letter. About a month or two ago I received a letter from a gentleman in France, who had attended one of my seminars on subtle energies and esoteric psychology over ten years ago. Unfortunately, since I was no longer familiar

Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 19, 2008 5:35 AM, Jan Willem Stumpel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am especially put off by the Wikipedia article on ext3. It gives > a rather long list of "disadvantages". One of them ("No > checksumming in journal") even sounds pretty frightening. The list > of "advantages" is very short,

Re: GTK update problems

2008-01-19 Thread Marty
Frank McCormick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anybody notice the menubar missing from apps after the latest GTK update ? This upgrade seems to have broken many packages. In my case, multi-gnome-terminal failed to start, leaving an error message in .xsession-errors.

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS?

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 19, 2008 7:17 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ext3 = ext2 + metadata(default) journaling. Therefore slower than ext2. > But all of that still gives me no reason to change all of my ext2 > partitions to something else. ext3 isn't noticably slower for user-environments,

Re: GTK update problems

2008-01-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Frank McCormick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:23:53 -0500 Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anybody notice the menubar missing from apps after the latest GTK update ? I am running Sid and IceWm and upon further investigation only

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