Math Programme.

2007-12-08 Thread David
Hello, Something of interest to those of a mathematical bent:- http://www.sagemath.org/ Regards, -- David Palmer Linux User - #352034 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

gmane suppresses the cc list

2007-12-08 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
I am using gmane to read the Debian mailing list discussions. I am using knode 0.10.5 on unstable for this purpose. The problem I have is that whenever a message is sent to multiple lists I am not able to see the other groups on the CC list. Looking at the message, I could not even figure out if th

startx gdm

2007-12-08 Thread Mark Grieveson
Hello. I'm wondering if there is a way to, without using gdm, have x started, my user logged in, and fluxbox opened, automatically. Perhaps a script, or something. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Anyone using Debian on notebook?

2007-12-08 Thread js
Hi list, I've just switched back my dev box from OS X to Debian. (I was used to be a Debian users but away from Debian for about 3 or more years.) OS X is great but Debian is so much better and easier in managing packages. OS X has some alternative to APT, like Fink and MacPorts but they are not o

Re: aptitude crashing x?

2007-12-08 Thread Miles Bader
David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've used aptitude since 2004 and, despite noise on the lists to the > contrary, I've never had a problem with it. Seriously. Upgrading within X works just fine. [People offer all _sorts_ of "advice" on this list, much of it is good, but much of it is crap.]

How to switch python to 2.5?

2007-12-08 Thread js
Hi, I've just installed etch and python2.4 and 2.5 pakcage there. By default python bin in /usr/bin are linked to 2.4's but I like to switch them to 2.5. of course I could do this manually but that's a bit boring thing to do. Is there any way of dong this job Debian way? Thanks in advance. --

forwarding _versus_ domain name service on a Linux router

2007-12-08 Thread PETER EASTHOPE
Folk, A system, connected to the 'net by a telephone modem, is configured to be a router providing a network connection to one Windows system and also to be a workstation. Which is the lesser of evils: running a dns for one client or forwarding name requests over the slow connection? Thanks,

Re: Network is unreachable email error

2007-12-08 Thread hce
On 12/9/07, John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hce wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am using mutt in Debian, it was workng fine in both receive and send > > emails (gmail server), but it is now only working receive email, does > > not work to send email since last week, please see following error > >

Re: Network is unreachable email error

2007-12-08 Thread hce
On 12/9/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 12/08/07 21:35, hce wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am using mutt in Debian, it was workng fine in both receive and send > > emails (gmail server), but it is now only working receive email, does > >

Re: Network is unreachable email error

2007-12-08 Thread John Miller
hce wrote: > Hi, > > I am using mutt in Debian, it was workng fine in both receive and send > emails (gmail server), but it is now only working receive email, does > not work to send email since last week, please see following error > message. Any suggestion what I could do wrong? > > Dec 9 14:13:

Re: Network is unreachable email error

2007-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/07 21:35, hce wrote: > Hi, > > I am using mutt in Debian, it was workng fine in both receive and send > emails (gmail server), but it is now only working receive email, does > not work to send email since last week, please see following error

Re: Download Opera brower package

2007-12-08 Thread hce
Thanks Mark. That works fine. The only thing when I call the opera from the command line, it has following errors although it still works. Should I concern that error messages or not? ~$ opera ~$ ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. ERROR: ld.so: object

Network is unreachable email error

2007-12-08 Thread hce
Hi, I am using mutt in Debian, it was workng fine in both receive and send emails (gmail server), but it is now only working receive email, does not work to send email since last week, please see following error message. Any suggestion what I could do wrong? Dec 9 14:13:48 debian postfix/smtp[13

Re: Problem installing local package

2007-12-08 Thread John Miller
Edward C. Jones wrote: > I am installing Debian on a new hard drive I bought. I have a PC with > an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ chip. I installed Debian stable (4.0) amd64 > port. I updated it to unstable. I put "xv-doc_3.10a-1duo1_all.deb" and > "xv_3.10a-1duo+etch1_amd64.deb" into "/usr/local/src/debian"

Re: Translators.

2007-12-08 Thread David
Bob wrote: David wrote: Hello, I was wondering about the winforlin/wine debate as I've never used either in the past, and was wondering about list members experiences with both/either. I used to run it years ago so I could run Irfanview and getright (I may set it up again, this time f

Re: Translators.

2007-12-08 Thread Bob
David wrote: Hello, I have to run a programme for a work environment that usually runs just on windows. I was wondering about the winforlin/wine debate as I've never used either in the past, and was wondering about list members experiences with both/either. I remember reading (some years

Problem installing local package

2007-12-08 Thread Edward C. Jones
I am installing Debian on a new hard drive I bought. I have a PC with an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ chip. I installed Debian stable (4.0) amd64 port. I updated it to unstable. I put "xv-doc_3.10a-1duo1_all.deb" and "xv_3.10a-1duo+etch1_amd64.deb" into "/usr/local/src/debian". The file /etc/apt/sources

Re: aptitude crashing x?

2007-12-08 Thread David
Daniel Burrows wrote: On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 08:42:30AM -0500, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: From what I remember you're generally not supposed to run any sort of updates while in an X environment; If I were you I'd quit X and change to TTY1 before administering any chan

Re: how to get debian.org to accept my yahoo.com email

2007-12-08 Thread Michael Shuler
On 12/08/2007 02:05 PM, Kevin Mark wrote: > Ask your Mail/DNS-Administrator to correct HELO and DNS MX settings Would this be yourself? The relevant bits: > Received: from unknown (HELO horacrux) (...) > Received: from kevin by horacrux with local (Exim 4.67) It appears that you are running you

Re: how to get debian.org to accept my yahoo.com email

2007-12-08 Thread Marc Shapiro
Kevin Mark wrote: Hi debian-users, my ISP is verizon which uses yahoo.com for sending email. Recently my email from my .verizon.net account is not being shown on any .debian.org list. From what I understand debian.org does not want to receive any of my email because my mail is sent through yahoo.

Re: how to get debian.org to accept my yahoo.com email

2007-12-08 Thread Raquel
On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 15:05:08 -0500 "Kevin Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi debian-users, > my ISP is verizon which uses yahoo.com for sending email. Recently > my email from my .verizon.net account is not being shown on any > .debian.org list. From what I understand debian.org does not want to

how to get debian.org to accept my yahoo.com email

2007-12-08 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi debian-users, my ISP is verizon which uses yahoo.com for sending email. Recently my email from my .verizon.net account is not being shown on any .debian.org list. From what I understand debian.org does not want to receive any of my email because my mail is sent through yahoo.com which rfc-ignora

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 12:42:06PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 12/08/07 12:17, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 11:54:57AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Listening to people sing in Italian (or German) about incest and > >> matricide is not my cup of tea. > > > > sounds

Re: SSH - Relay?

2007-12-08 Thread Ralph Katz
On 12/08/2007 11:37 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: > There are times when I'm at a client's system and I need to access my > home computer to tell it to resend data or do something similar so I've > just ssh'ed in to my home computer from outside. > I don't want to go into issues with my current ISP, b

[OT] Service manual guide for acer 5100 5102 wlmi

2007-12-08 Thread Jabka Atu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello,.. This is extremely offtopic but since this mailing list is read by 1000s (may be more ) maybe one will need it. For the last few years Acer stopped releasing the service manuals to the common public and i found one on rapidshare today. ht

Re: FAQ about encrypting harddrive using key on USB key?

2007-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/07 13:18, Peter Kay wrote: > On Dec 8, 2007 12:45 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> [ I want to encrypt laptop, with key on USB drive] >>> Is there a different FAQ I should be using? >>> >>> Thanks all, and I hope to soon join you

Re: FAQ about encrypting harddrive using key on USB key?

2007-12-08 Thread Peter Kay
On Dec 8, 2007 12:45 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [ I want to encrypt laptop, with key on USB drive] > > Is there a different FAQ I should be using? > > > > Thanks all, and I hope to soon join you in debian-land. > > http://luks.endorphin.org/ > > Install cryptsetup and read /usr/

Re: CLI tool to deeply examine a DVD?

2007-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/07 12:35, T o n g wrote: > On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:18:34 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> lsdvd does a good job of dumping the name of the disk, and the >> titles on the disk, but is there any tool to list the chapters? > > Install dvdrip and

Re: random keystrokes ignored on console

2007-12-08 Thread Owen Heisler
On Tue, 2007.12.04 08:51, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 09:28:59PM -0600, Owen Heisler wrote: > > On Sat, 2007.12.01 06:27, Gabriel Parrondo wrote: > > > El vie, 30-11-2007 a las 17:16 -0600, Owen Heisler escribi??: > > > > On Thu, 2007.11.29 22:39, Owen Heisler wrote: > > > > >

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/07 12:17, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 11:54:57AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> Listening to people sing in Italian (or German) about incest and >> matricide is not my cup of tea. > > sounds like a python bit The lan

Re: CLI tool to deeply examine a DVD?

2007-12-08 Thread T o n g
On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:18:34 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > lsdvd does a good job of dumping the name of the disk, and the > titles on the disk, but is there any tool to list the chapters? Install dvdrip and see (from log) how it know about the DVD disk. E.g., --

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 11:54:57AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Listening to people sing in Italian (or German) about incest and > matricide is not my cup of tea. sounds like a python bit A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: volume mgmt w/o gnome

2007-12-08 Thread T o n g
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 21:54:13 -0700, Dave Thayer wrote: > On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 06:42:09PM -0500, Mark Grieveson wrote: >> Hello. I use fluxbox most of the time. But, when I plug in my hp315 >> photosmart camera, I rely upon gnome to find it, and automagically >> mount it for me. Is it possibl

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/07 06:45, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 12/06/07 21:16, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >>> On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 07:45:12PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> [snip] Orchestr

Re: FAQ about encrypting harddrive using key on USB key?

2007-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/07 01:30, Peter Kay wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm trying to become a new debian user, and am still kinda fuzzy on > where the best place to go for FAQs and help are, so bear with me... > > I'm trying to set up my laptop with debian on an

Re: [OT] LaTeX

2007-12-08 Thread John Miller
I had to work on a LaTeX/Perl project a couple of months ago, but didn't know much about it. These got me up to speed well enough: The Not So Short Introduction to LaTeX2e http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf LaTeX Tutorials: A Primer http://www.tug.org.in/tutorials.htm

Re: [OT] LaTeX

2007-12-08 Thread T o n g
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 11:12:38 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > I'd like to begin writing my coursework for college in LaTeX, but I've > no clue where to start. . . LaTeX is not recommended for casual writing. The learning curve is so steep that most people would give up before they see the beauty o

SSH - Relay?

2007-12-08 Thread Hal Vaughan
There are times when I'm at a client's system and I need to access my home computer to tell it to resend data or do something similar so I've just ssh'ed in to my home computer from outside. My firewall forwards a port to my workstation and there's no need to go into the rest of the security d

laptop brigtness up/down buttons issue

2007-12-08 Thread Deephay
Greetings all, Recently I installed debian on a HP Compaq Presario V3646 laptop, everything went ok, except that the brightness adjustment buttons (Fn+F6/F7) behave strangely: if you made some brightness adjustment in X, you have to switch to a tty and then switch back to X to make the adjustment

Re: why does the shell show commands foolishly when I press UP key?

2007-12-08 Thread T o n g
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:09:35 +0100, Misko wrote: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 10:49:49PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> > I often use UP key to get commands entered previously. The shell show some >> > commands again and >> > again, just because I have used them several times. Can the shell

Re: mounting without GUI folder

2007-12-08 Thread cs
On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 10:56 -0500, John Miller wrote: > Hey there, M, > > I think you might be looking for: > Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media -> Storage -> "Browse > removable media when inserted" aha, never thought it might apply to HDs too ;) thanks! > I don't know of a way to keep t

Re: aptitude crashing x?

2007-12-08 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 07:30:43PM -0800, joseph lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > Does this happen every time you run an upgrade? > > Does "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" do > >the same thing? > > can't answer this one, i only use apt-get source > --download-only and t

Rebuilding the official Debian 2.6.23 kernel package

2007-12-08 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, In <2.6.23 kernels this site told you how to rebuild the Debian kernel package: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-official In 2.6.23 I can no longer do it. It fails this: fakeroot make -f debian/rules.gen setup-i386-none-686 That flavor no longer exi

Re: aptitude crashing x?

2007-12-08 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 08:42:30AM -0500, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > From what I remember you're generally not supposed to run any sort of > updates while in an X environment; If I were you I'd quit X and change > to TTY1 before administering any changes (Especially if

mounting without GUI folder

2007-12-08 Thread cs
Folks, can somebody point me to the magic configuration key that will allow me to mount a filesystem from a shell without it opening a nwe GUI window of its contents? And ideally without adding an icon to the desktop? I'm running 'etch' with Gnome as the window manager. Thanks, M -- To UNSUBSC

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 07/12/2007, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As I type this, Beethoven is (lightly) thundering out of my > > speakers. Clickity-clack does *not* go well with good music > > oh, they're not that loud. And it's all about the rhythm. just type in > time to the music ;-) No, do

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-08 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Dec 08 07:02 -0600]: > On 07/12/2007, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a bit of trouble with mine and the PS/2 to USB adaptor at work. > > Upon a cold boot I have to unplug the cable from the rear of the > > keyboard and plug it back in. I

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 07/12/2007, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a bit of trouble with mine and the PS/2 to USB adaptor at work. > Upon a cold boot I have to unplug the cable from the rear of the > keyboard and plug it back in. If the laptop has been in suspend, XP > will never see it again. :-/

Where is LUKS passphrase stored?

2007-12-08 Thread Andrew Henry
I am about to wipe my server and reinstall, and I have an external 1394a disk that is encrypted with LUKS and dmcrypt. Is the passphrase stored in the header of the partition on the external drive? If it is then it should not be an issue to reinstall my server but if it is stored anywhere on the

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-08 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/06/07 21:16, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 07:45:12PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] Orchestral music doesn't seem to have a consistent rhythm in the same sense that "common" music does. Try Bach. I

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-08 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Totally OT, except it's on my debian box ;) If you need that amazingly insightful gift for someone (yourself?) this year, check out www.clickykeyboards.com for real IBM keyboards. Mine just arrived and I'm in heaven. I hate to bump a commercial enterprise like tha

How to resolv samba server names when using Ad-Hoc

2007-12-08 Thread Jabka Atu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello,.. maybe this is the wrong place i will be glad if it will be forwarded to the correct place. On my lpatop i have samba shares (Debian Testing) and the configuration is here : [CODE][global] workgroup = MSHOME netbios name = acerium security

Re: mount USB drive at boot: fsck failure -> kernel upgrade

2007-12-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:51:27AM -0500, Bogart Salzberg wrote: > Would you personally use the kernel from "testing" on a production box? Is > it really as simple as "apt-get upgrade linux-image" -> restart -> done? > I've been cautious about using packages from testing, because they seem to >