Re: Nomachine on Debian unstable?

2007-09-24 Thread Stefan Bellon
On Tue, 25 Sep, Gilles Mocellin wrote: > Le Monday 24 September 2007 08:41:34 Stefan Bellon, vous avez écrit : > > Hi, > [...] > > I think the problem is here : > > > NX> 208 Using auth method: publickey > > NX> 204 Authentication failed.. > [...] > > Do you use the defaut ssh key ? Yes, haven

Re: Spamassassin and Exim4

2007-09-24 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 04:03:47PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 06:40:58PM -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote: > > On Monday 24 September 2007 15:50:58 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 03:36:45PM -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote: > > > > > SA should l

Re: One kernel installed, four grub menu entries?

2007-09-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:19:32 -0500, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > * Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Sep 24 > 20:13 -0500]: >> looks like update-grub is picking up initrd.img and vmlinux symlinks >> that must exist in /boot. You could maybe delete these symlinks, as I

Re: Tool for document management

2007-09-24 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070925 00:07]: > You do realize that the document format we're talking about is an > OASIS open document standard, right? > > http://www.oasis-open.org/home/index.php My error. RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:16:02 -0500, Mumia W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On 09/24/2007 07:52 PM, Miles Bader wrote: >> Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: even 708 old hardware seems to be running it fine for me. >>> My objection is to having on my machine at all. >> >> I object to havi

Re: Upgrading from Etch to Lenny

2007-09-24 Thread Michael M.
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 22:59 -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: > Non sequitor. We're not comparing Debian with Windows in this thread. > We're comparing Debian with Debian (i.e. Debian/Testing to > Debian/Stable). "Testing" consists of software that is still being > tested; the distribution is going to ha

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:54:34 -0500, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:21:16 -0500, Mike McCarty >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >>> Manoj Srivastava wrote: Firstly: Very few packages have been actively patched to link >> >>> Somethin

Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-24 Thread Eric d'Alibut
On 9/25/07, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Being super lazy by nature, I count the number of key strokes to achieve the > end result. If you are using knode all it takes is one key stroke - 'r'. > Comparing that to your method counts as a pain in my dictionary :-) And I'm much

Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-24 Thread Eric d'Alibut
On 9/25/07, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hit reply. If it's a new question, post to a new thread. Your new > question deserves its own thread. If you're replying to an existing > thread, reply ought to do it, barring serious breakage of standeards > by your newsreader. What newsread

Re: Tool for document management

2007-09-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Osamu Aoki wrote: > I hear hg (Mercurial at http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/ ) is better on > Windows as modern distributed VCS than git. Both of these are good if > you want to record revision off-line and sync with server occasionally. > But these are new... Just for the record for those w

Re: Tool for document management

2007-09-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Russell L. Harris wrote: > As a writer and programmer, it appears to me that it is OpenOffice -- > rather than SVN -- which is unsuited for the application which is the > basis for this thread. While I do agree that OOo seems to be the culprit here I do not follow you down the same path of rea

Re: Tool for document management

2007-09-24 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070924 23:21]: > First off Word suffers from the same problem. I found out the hard > way on one of my scripting projects. So there's precedent. The > second reason is that OOo developers have stated, many times, that > the format's not designed to be manipulat

Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-24 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Eric d'Alibut wrote: > On 9/24/07, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> gmail currently does not have a reply-to-list feature so replying (only) >> to the list is a bit pain. > > I just hit 'reply,' delete the poster's email, and then start to type > d-e-b and gmail pops up a li

Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-24 Thread s. keeling
Sid Arth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Im sorry if this isnt the best place to voice such a question, but I Perfect place. > am a bit new to mailing lists and so on. I was wondering how to > reply to a message but in a way so everybody in the list gets it, > but without starting a whole new thread.

Re: trying to get QQ to run under wine

2007-09-24 Thread Mumia W..
On 09/24/2007 08:54 PM, tom arnall wrote: i'm trying to get QQ to run under wine. it installs fine and gets me through the registration process at the server. but when i try to run the agent, i get: Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". That's not a probl

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread Mumia W..
On 09/24/2007 07:52 PM, Miles Bader wrote: Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: even 708 old hardware seems to be running it fine for me. My objection is to having on my machine at all. I object to having python and tcl on my machine. -Miles Your Debian machine is probably not depend

Re: trying to get the windows icq program QQ to work under etch

2007-09-24 Thread tom arnall
On Monday 24 September 2007 19:32, you wrote: > On 25/09/2007, tom arnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 24 September 2007 17:54, you wrote: > > > On 25/09/2007, tom arnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Monday 24 September 2007 16:24, you wrote: > > > > > On 24/09/2007, tom arnall

Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-24 Thread Eric d'Alibut
On 9/24/07, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > gmail currently does not have a reply-to-list feature so replying (only) to > the list is a bit pain. I just hit 'reply,' delete the poster's email, and then start to type d-e-b and gmail pops up a list in which I select [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Etch-backports and gpg problems (SOLVED)

2007-09-24 Thread Marc Shapiro
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: David Fox wrote: It might be worth mentioning that "sudo" doesn't work across pipes: For instance: sudo command_1 | command_2 The first command will be run as root, but the second will be run with normal user permissions. You can probably get around that by enc

Re: binary packages versus source

2007-09-24 Thread s. keeling
pietia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Joey Hess pisze: > > > No, the debian buildds run unstable (except for the buildds used to build > > updates for stable). > > for whitch architecture are optimized ? less /boot/config-$(uname -r) -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently ad

Re: Tool for document management

2007-09-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 09/24/07 11:02, Osamu Aoki wrote: >> Ron, why you are so negative on OOo? > Negative? Hardly. I'm just wishing for new features, that's all. Like text to columns in Calc without resorting to a plugin? Seems like a no-brainer. :/ >> But it is long 1 line XML file w

Re: Etch + USB Modem -- Supported?

2007-09-24 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 11:28:54AM -0700, Ted Williams wrote: > > i need to get another (dial-up) modem for my linux > box. does the most up to date version of Etch support > USB modems 'out of the box?' (ie- without a lot of > heavy configuring, like kernel recompiling.) > > and if so, which US

Re: binary packages versus source

2007-09-24 Thread s. keeling
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > THe binaries you download from debian repositories are built using an > > automatic system. THat system must be stable and reliable. So, it uses > > and older, more tested and stable version of gcc to compile.=20 > > No, the de

trying to get QQ to run under wine

2007-09-24 Thread tom arnall
i'm trying to get QQ to run under wine. it installs fine and gets me through the registration process at the server. but when i try to run the agent, i get: Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". and the thing dies. i would prefer to use gaim with openq execep

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Miles Bader wrote: > I object to having python and tcl on my machine. I can understand TCL but Python, c'mon, that's just crazy talk! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: logrotate: Logs in all subdirs of wildcard

2007-09-24 Thread Mike Bird
On Monday 24 September 2007 14:41, Florian Lindner wrote: > can I configure logrotate so that it rotates the logfiles in a subdir of a > wildcard, for example: /home/*/http/log/access.log which should work for > all users. Does this work? It should work. I have "/home/*/.procmail/log" which works

Re: One kernel installed, four grub menu entries?

2007-09-24 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Sep 24 20:13 -0500]: > looks like update-grub is picking up initrd.img and vmlinux symlinks > that must exist in /boot. You could maybe delete these symlinks, as I > think theyre supposed to be in / anyway. > > That would get you down to 2 stanz

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread Miles Bader
Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> even 708 old hardware seems to be running it fine for me. > > My objection is to having on my machine at all. I object to having python and tcl on my machine. -Miles -- `There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your

Re: One kernel installed, four grub menu entries?

2007-09-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 07:13:40PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > This one has been driving me batty and I've not figured out the cause > of this one yet. On this desktop with Sid installed and grub as the > bootloader, for some time (months) update-grub has been adding a > "Default" entry and then

trying to create openq plugin for gaim from source but can't do 'make'

2007-09-24 Thread tom arnall
I'm trying to create openq plugin for gaim from source. i can do the configure, but when i do 'make' i get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/zips/openq/openq-0.3.2$ make make all-recursive make[1]: Entering directory `/home/kloro/zips/openq/openq-0.3.2' Making all in intl make[2]: Entering directory `/home/

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/24/07 18:23, Mike McCarty wrote: > consultores agropecuarios wrote: >> >> The real problem with SELinux is that it come from a really well known >> untrusted organization around the globe; and if the Debian Team accep it >> blindly, Debian is goi

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/24/07 17:43, David Brodbeck wrote: > > On Sep 24, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> But if you're worried that the NSA is targeting you, you've got a lot of >>> more serious concerns. Your monitor is radiating signals that can be >>> pic

Re: How to reduce pdf file size with open source software?

2007-09-24 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
Thank you for taking the time to reply. > After having read most of the current thread, you did this: > windows program: a document->scanner->png > linux program: png->pdf Yes that is correct > what types of documents are you scanning? > are they 'art pictures' or 'drawings' or are they 'writt

Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-24 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Sid Arth wrote: > Im sorry if this isnt the best place to voice such a question, but I > am a bit new to mailing lists and so on. > I was wondering how to reply to a message but in a way so everybody in > the list gets it, but without starting a whole new thread. > I am a gmail user so if this que

One kernel installed, four grub menu entries?

2007-09-24 Thread Nate Bargmann
This one has been driving me batty and I've not figured out the cause of this one yet. On this desktop with Sid installed and grub as the bootloader, for some time (months) update-grub has been adding a "Default" entry and then repeats the entries again: title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2

Re: iscan frustration Compounded!

2007-09-24 Thread Felix Karpfen
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:19:16 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:19:16 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > I own two Epson scanners, a Perfection 2400 Photo and a Perfection V100 > Photo. > > Neither work with Debian Linux. > > Both are known to work flawlessly with Windows XP Pr

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread Mike McCarty
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:21:16 -0500, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Manoj Srivastava wrote: Firstly: Very few packages have been actively patched to link Something like 50 or so. ls, mv, cp, etc. Source packages. All those are from coreutils, no?

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:21:16 -0500, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:14:57 -0400, Douglas A Tutty >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >>> On small systems, what about the penalty of just larger binaries? I >>> have some older boxes with 16-6

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:24:10 +0100, John Stumbles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:13:59 -0700, consultores agropecuarios >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >>> The real problem with SELinux is that it come from a really well >>> known untrusted organiza

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread Mike McCarty
consultores agropecuarios wrote: The real problem with SELinux is that it come from a really well known untrusted organization around the globe; and if the Debian Team accep it blindly, Debian is going to become as Windows; remember that, who I don't think anyone has accepted SELinux "blindly"

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread Mike McCarty
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:14:57 -0400, Douglas A Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: On small systems, what about the penalty of just larger binaries? I have some older boxes with 16-64 MB ram. Firstly: Very few packages have been actively patched to link Somethi

Re: lirc on Debian with AMD64

2007-09-24 Thread Marty
David Brodbeck wrote: I find with LIRC it's usually easiest to abandon using packages and build it from scratch. It seems to be much easier to configure that way. I realize this isn't the Debian-correct(tm) way to do it but it's usually what I resort to. In the case or the original poste

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread Mike McCarty
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Its not their thing either. I know there are minidistros like DSL but DSL is small as in how much can they pack onto a small CD, not how to shoehorn into 16-32 MB ram. I'm also not sure how they keep up with security fixes. I beg to differ. One of the "selling points"

Re: Nomachine on Debian unstable?

2007-09-24 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le Monday 24 September 2007 08:41:34 Stefan Bellon, vous avez écrit : > Hi, [...] I think the problem is here : > NX> 208 Using auth method: publickey > NX> 204 Authentication failed.. [...] Do you use the defaut ssh key ? > Has anybody succeeded in installing the Nomachine server on a Debian >

Re: Spamassassin and Exim4

2007-09-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 06:40:58PM -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote: > On Monday 24 September 2007 15:50:58 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 03:36:45PM -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote: > > > SA should log to /var/log/mail.info, and that's a good place to look > > for info... > > I

Re: unstable: problems installing GNOME

2007-09-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 05:33:26PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 09/24/07 17:18, michael wrote: ... > > > > python-gnome2-desktop: Depends: libwnck18 > > > > detail below. Thanks, Michael > > > > --- > > Script started on Mon 24 Sep 2007 23:15:45 BST > > 23:15:45 ~$ sudo apt-get update > > Pas

Re: Please comment on a debian-offtopic list

2007-09-24 Thread Nate Bargmann
I've been Slashdotted! - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998. http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | "Debian, the choice of My Kawasaki KZ-650 SR @

Re: Please comment on a debian-offtopic list

2007-09-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 01:27:58AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 02:56:23PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > ... looking at the "Etch + USB Modem -- Supported?" thread I'm guessing > > > you guys (at least you and Ron) are also missing those. > > > > yeah, so

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Sep 24, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: But if you're worried that the NSA is targeting you, you've got a lot of more serious concerns. Your monitor is radiating signals that can be picked up and decoded. Even LCD monitors? Them too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Eck_phreaking#

Re: trying to do an upgrade to my debian etch system

2007-09-24 Thread tom arnall
On Monday 24 September 2007 14:30, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 01:56:59PM -0700, tom arnall wrote: > > On Monday 24 September 2007 13:19, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 01:06:16PM -0700, tom arnall wrote: > > > > I am trying to do an upgrade to

Re: Spamassassin and Exim4

2007-09-24 Thread Daniel D Jones
On Monday 24 September 2007 15:50:58 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 03:36:45PM -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote: > SA should log to /var/log/mail.info, and that's a good place to look > for info... I have two spamd entries in mail.info: Sep 24 14:51:09 etch spamd[10151]: spamd

Re: [OT] Vituperation(s) [WAS] Re: Etch + USB Modem -- Supported?

2007-09-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 01:33:21AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 11:36:24PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > Cool, it's almost as if the old d-u list was back! (The whining starts a > > bit early this time around, though.) > > Speaking of early, isn't your clock a bit

Re: unstable: problems installing GNOME

2007-09-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/24/07 17:18, michael wrote: > On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 14:31 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 10:27:17PM +0100, michael wrote: >>> On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 22:45 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 15

Re: [OT] Vituperation(s) [WAS] Re: Etch + USB Modem -- Supported?

2007-09-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 11:36:24PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > Cool, it's almost as if the old d-u list was back! (The whining starts a > bit early this time around, though.) Speaking of early, isn't your clock a bit off? You couldn't have possibly posted this at 11:36 PM (CET) ... Regards,

Re: reinstall all packages

2007-09-24 Thread Dallas Foley
Daniel Burrows wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 08:23:06PM -0400, Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: Tod Detre wrote: A less drastic approach, which would not risk breaking anything, would be "apt-get install --reinstall $pkg" in place of the last two steps. I don't know if it would a

Re: Please comment on a debian-offtopic list

2007-09-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 02:56:23PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > ... looking at the "Etch + USB Modem -- Supported?" thread I'm guessing > > you guys (at least you and Ron) are also missing those. > > yeah, sorry I spelled your name wrong there. But since Celejar has > logged my claim

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/24/07 15:46, David Brodbeck wrote: [snip] > > But if you're worried that the NSA is targeting you, you've got a lot of > more serious concerns. Your monitor is radiating signals that can be > picked up and decoded. Even LCD monitors? >

Re: unstable: problems installing GNOME

2007-09-24 Thread michael
On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 14:31 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 10:27:17PM +0100, michael wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 22:45 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 15:06:02 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > On 09/24/07 14:15, Florian Kulzer wrote: >

Re: Please comment on a debian-offtopic list

2007-09-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 05:08:23PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > And all along I thought Slashdot was the proper place for off-topic > subject matter. I, for one, welcome our new slashdot posting debian users! In soviet russia, debian users slashdot you! I saw Natalie Portman's grits on debian-u

Re: Please comment on a debian-offtopic list

2007-09-24 Thread Nate Bargmann
And all along I thought Slashdot was the proper place for off-topic subject matter. ;-) - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998. http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/

Re: Please comment on a debian-offtopic list

2007-09-24 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:56:23 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 12:32:57AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 11:17:57AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > > > I agree the list is much "cleaner" now, but, with a few exc

logrotate: Logs in all subdirs of wildcard

2007-09-24 Thread Florian Lindner
Hello, can I configure logrotate so that it rotates the logfiles in a subdir of a wildcard, for example: /home/*/http/log/access.log which should work for all users. Does this work? Another question: Is there a logrotate config option to create the old (just rotated) file as the same user as th

Re: Please comment on a debian-offtopic list

2007-09-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 12:32:57AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 11:17:57AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > I agree the list is much "cleaner" now, but, with a few exceptions, the > > > big OT threads have been much fun. > > > > so, with all due respect and

Etch + KDE + Compiz

2007-09-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
I am at the moment experimenting with compiz. I managed to get it working just fine for me on sid+xfce and also on a lenny+kde installation, but more important I need to get it working on etch+KDE (I have a younger friend I'm trying to attract ;) Everything works except the window decorations.

Re: [OT] Vituperation(s) [WAS] Re: Etch + USB Modem -- Supported?

2007-09-24 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 14:25:06 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 05:12:42PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:39:01 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On 09/24/07 15:20, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 03:14:30PM -0500, Ron Johns

Re: trying to get the windows icq program QQ to work under etch

2007-09-24 Thread tom arnall
On Monday 24 September 2007 14:19, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 02:05:45PM -0700, tom arnall wrote: > > I am trying to get the windows icq program QQ to work under etch. I can > > get it to install, but when I try to run it the thing dies and I get: > > I know this is not a real

Re: [OT] Vituperation(s) [WAS] Re: Etch + USB Modem -- Supported?

2007-09-24 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:25:06 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 05:12:42PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:39:01 -0500 > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > >

Any Software for Export Video to the TV With my Nvidia card?

2007-09-24 Thread Orestes leal
That's what I need folks, Thanks a lot. olr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] Vituperation(s) [WAS] Re: Etch + USB Modem -- Supported?

2007-09-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 02:25:06PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > aw crap. Andreas and I were just discussing how the OT had really gone > down and now this. I demand that we stop this OT crap now! Can't you > people go somewhere else? In Romania I would now say you owe me a lamb (for th

Re: Scaling images in docs [was Re: How to reduce pdf file size with open source software?]

2007-09-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 02:19:08PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > Hi Andrew -- Of course you're correct about $ convert, but let me tell > > you... Not wanting to re-do her work (if you're married, you'll catch > > my drift), taking a quick screen shot and posting the whole page as a >

Re: Please comment on a debian-offtopic list

2007-09-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 11:17:57AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > I agree the list is much "cleaner" now, but, with a few exceptions, the > > big OT threads have been much fun. > > so, with all due respect and being genuinely curious, you seem to be a > proponent of debian-ot. Can I as

Re: unstable: problems installing GNOME

2007-09-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 10:27:17PM +0100, michael wrote: > On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 22:45 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 15:06:02 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On 09/24/07 14:15, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > The first Gnome 2.20 packages have entered

Re: trying to do an upgrade to my debian etch system

2007-09-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 01:56:59PM -0700, tom arnall wrote: > On Monday 24 September 2007 13:19, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 01:06:16PM -0700, tom arnall wrote: > > > I am trying to do an upgrade to my debian etch system and get the > > > following error message. What s

Re: binary packages versus source

2007-09-24 Thread pietia
Joey Hess pisze: No, the debian buildds run unstable (except for the buildds used to build updates for stable). for whitch architecture are optimized ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: unstable: problems installing GNOME

2007-09-24 Thread michael
On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 22:45 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 15:06:02 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 09/24/07 14:15, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > The first Gnome 2.20 packages have entered unstable; the current mix of > > > version 2.18 and 2.20 does not see

Re: [OT] Vituperation(s) [WAS] Re: Etch + USB Modem -- Supported?

2007-09-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 05:12:42PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:39:01 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 09/24/07 15:20, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 03:14:30PM -0500, Ro

Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-24 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:21:14 -0400 Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:18:03 +0300 > Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 03:48:37PM -0500, Sid Arth wrote: > > > Im sorry if this isnt the best place to voice such a question, but I > > > a

Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-24 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:18:03 +0300 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 03:48:37PM -0500, Sid Arth wrote: > > Im sorry if this isnt the best place to voice such a question, but I > > am a bit new to mailing lists and so on. > > I was wondering how to reply to a messa

Re: trying to get the windows icq program QQ to work under etch

2007-09-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 02:05:45PM -0700, tom arnall wrote: > I am trying to get the windows icq program QQ to work under etch. I can get > it > to install, but when I try to run it the thing dies and I get: I know this is not a real solution, but do you have any particular reason for using tha

Re: Scaling images in docs [was Re: How to reduce pdf file size with open source software?]

2007-09-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 05:11:01PM -0400, Ralph Katz wrote: > On 09/24/2007 03:14 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > wandering OT here, but use convert to resize the pictures so that they > > are the proper size. Then they don't need to be resized within the > > document. A 1mb image is pretty bi

Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 03:48:37PM -0500, Sid Arth wrote: > Im sorry if this isnt the best place to voice such a question, but I > am a bit new to mailing lists and so on. > I was wondering how to reply to a message but in a way so everybody in > the list gets it, but without starting a whole new t

[OT] Vituperation(s) [WAS] Re: Etch + USB Modem -- Supported?

2007-09-24 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:39:01 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/24/07 15:20, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 03:14:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 09/24/07 15:02, Andrew J. Barr wrote: > >>> On 9

Scaling images in docs [was Re: How to reduce pdf file size with open source software?]

2007-09-24 Thread Ralph Katz
On 09/24/2007 03:14 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > wandering OT here, but use convert to resize the pictures so that they > are the proper size. Then they don't need to be resized within the > document. A 1mb image is pretty big at its native resolution, the > object is to get it sized so that

Re: Dist-upgrade Mess of Sid--mplayer?

2007-09-24 Thread David Baron
On Monday 24 September 2007, Joey Hess wrote: > David Baron wrote: > > One doesn't dare at this point, I'm afraid. > > More and more packages to remove. > > > > However one may notice that they are replaced "new install" instead of > > "upgrade" but there is a large number so must check each one. >

Re: unstable: problems installing GNOME

2007-09-24 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 15:06:02 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 09/24/07 14:15, Florian Kulzer wrote: > [snip] > > > > The first Gnome 2.20 packages have entered unstable; the current mix of > > version 2.18 and 2.20 does not seem to be installable. > > > > However, right now it might still be en

trying to get the windows icq program QQ to work under etch

2007-09-24 Thread tom arnall
I am trying to get the windows icq program QQ to work under etch. I can get it to install, but when I try to run it the thing dies and I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/QQ/Africa2003$ wine C:\\Program\ Files\\QQ\\Africa2003\\QQ.exe & [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.wine/drive_c/Progra

Re: undigesting and filtering by list-id

2007-09-24 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:23:02 -0800 Ken Irving <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 01:27:13PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:15:16 -0700 > > John L Fjellstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > The best practice

Re: How to reduce pdf file size with open source software?

2007-09-24 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 10:37:10PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > Hey guys, > > I am currently using Etch and I'm loving it! > > Today I had to scan several documents from a Windows machine (not a good > experience). The output files were of png format. I then transferred these > files into

Re: Etch + USB Modem -- Supported?

2007-09-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 03:37:21PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 09/24/07 15:21, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 03:07:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 09/24/07 14:58, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 02:50:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >

Re: trying to do an upgrade to my debian etch system

2007-09-24 Thread tom arnall
On Monday 24 September 2007 13:19, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 01:06:16PM -0700, tom arnall wrote: > > I am trying to do an upgrade to my debian etch system and get the > > following error message. What should I do about it. (i did an update just > > before the upgrade at

How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-24 Thread Sid Arth
Im sorry if this isnt the best place to voice such a question, but I am a bit new to mailing lists and so on. I was wondering how to reply to a message but in a way so everybody in the list gets it, but without starting a whole new thread. I am a gmail user so if this question makes no sense, I apo

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Sep 24, 2007, at 1:24 PM, John Stumbles wrote: Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:13:59 -0700, consultores agropecuarios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: The real problem with SELinux is that it come from a really well known untrusted organization around the globe; This is

Re: Etch + USB Modem -- Supported?

2007-09-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/24/07 15:20, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 03:14:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 09/24/07 15:02, Andrew J. Barr wrote: >>> On 9/24/07, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: Etch + USB Modem -- Supported?

2007-09-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/24/07 15:21, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 03:07:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 09/24/07 14:58, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 02:50:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 09/24/07 14:27, A

Re: Dist-upgrade Mess of Sid--mplayer?

2007-09-24 Thread Joey Hess
David Baron wrote: > One doesn't dare at this point, I'm afraid. > More and more packages to remove. > > However one may notice that they are replaced "new install" instead of > "upgrade" but there is a large number so must check each one. > > One that stands out is mplayer. Is mplayer with it c

Re: I'm sorry

2007-09-24 Thread Orestes leal
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:11:03 -0400 "Adam Mercer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 22/09/2007, Lo'oris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. > > > > great quote! where does it come from? > > Its a rewording of one of Arthur C. Clar

Re: Etch + USB Modem -- Supported?

2007-09-24 Thread Bruno Delalleau
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 11:28:54AM -0700, Ted Williams wrote : > hi > > i need to get another (dial-up) modem for my linux > box. does the most up to date version of Etch support > USB modems 'out of the box?' (ie- without a lot of > heavy configuring, like kernel recompiling.) > > and if so, wh

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread John Stumbles
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:13:59 -0700, consultores agropecuarios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: The real problem with SELinux is that it come from a really well known untrusted organization around the globe; This is one place I differ. I know and like Stephen Smalle

Re: Dist-upgrade Mess of Sid--mplayer?

2007-09-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 09:47:19PM +0200, David Baron wrote: > One doesn't dare at this point, I'm afraid. > More and more packages to remove. > > However one may notice that they are replaced "new install" instead of > "upgrade" but there is a large number so must check each one. > > One that s

Re: Etch + USB Modem -- Supported?

2007-09-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 03:07:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 09/24/07 14:58, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 02:50:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 09/24/07 14:27, Andrew J. Barr wrote: > >> [snip] > >>> not have Linux drivers at all. Generally hardware-based mod

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