Re: Debian etch on SONY VAIO VGN-FE880E/H

L.V.Gandhi wrote: > I have searched google, tuxmobile, linux-laptop etc. I could n't find any > much useful info regarding installing etch as dual boot in SONY VAIO > VGN-FE880E/H. I will be thankful for any advice or pointers regarding > partioin shrinking retaining all that sony gives intially in

Re: GPL v3?

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 23:43 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Just for the fun of it, I'd be interested in a little poll: > 1 - are you generally in favor or against the GPLv3? Yes. > 2 - are you a Free Software supporter, or an Open Source supporter? Yes. > My gut feeling is that the answers are

Re: Postfix-Sender and recipient restriction problem

Semih Gokalp wrote: > main.cf : [snip] > mydestination = server.abc.def, localhost.abc.def, localhost, abc.def > myhostname = server.abc.def > mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, 192.168.0.0/24, 192.168.1.0/24 > myorigin = abc.def > receive_override_options = no_address_mappings > recipient_d

Re: dell computer construction

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:30:18PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > The discussion on dell and linux was what prompted me to make that post. Ah. I was not quite as obvious to me, as it was not part of the same thread. I´d suggest to add an opening comment next time. > When I bought this Dell back in

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I find the actions of these terrorists just as abhorrent as you do. I doubt that since as far as I have seen until just now you have done nothing but defend them. > Not to mention that such actions are counterproductive. If someone > is tortured into confes

Re: I have a Debian question, I think.

Greg Folkert wrote: Well, I just got handed to me, a couple of HP p1130 monitors. Both with less than 300 hours on them. Just out of the box about two-three months ago. They are pretty big and heavy (67# and about 20"x20"x20"). So, these things are VERY configurable. Display up to 2048x1536 at 7

Re: [OT] How much open is OpenSolaris?

Scribit Michael Pobega dies 03/04/2007 hora 23:39: > > > AIUI, BSD is not compatible with GPL. > [Debian's social contract] says BSD is DFSG compatible. Which doesn't mean it's GPL compatible. Correctively, Pierre -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP 0xD9D50D8A signature.asc Description: Digital signa

Re: Debian User List

s. keeling wrote: > I always tell newbies, "xman -notopbox -bothshown &", giving them a > pointy-clickey interface to man. I would like it if all manpages > included an example usage section. That's missing in many. > > And though I tend to like it, the Openlook interface of xman is a > little

Re: GPL v3?

> So, let me ask you, when you drive the speed limit, you are skirting the > law. Or if in a 55MPH speed limit area and you drive 55MPH... exactly, > are you are skirting the law (and therefore staying within the limits of > the law) or are you breaking the spirit of the law and should be > punish

Re: delete lines that contain duplicated column items

On 4/4/07, Ken Irving <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 08:19:10PM +0800, Jeff Zhang wrote: > I have a simple txt file, like: > ... > a a > aa a > b b > ba b > ... > > I want to just keep the lines that first appeared in column 2 and delete the follow lines that > contain duplic

OT: Linux or Cisco

Hello all, I have started studying for CCNA using CBTNuggets. Meanwhile I looked for options in the Linux world and there are exams from LPI and RedHat. I have some 2 years' Linux experience but am equally interested in CCNA/networking. I understand that I can not have both at the same time. So

Re: [OT] How much open is OpenSolaris?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:12:38AM +0200, Pierre THIERRY wrote: > Scribit Mike McCarty dies 03/04/2007 hora 20:19: > > AIUI, BSD is not compatible with GPL. > > Well, the FSF thinks it is. And says so on its website. > > At least if you're talking ab

Re: delete lines that contain duplicated column items

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 08:19:10PM +0800, Jeff Zhang wrote: > I have a simple txt file, like: > ... > a a > aa a > b b > ba b > ... > > I want to just keep the lines that first appeared in column 2 and delete the > follow lines that > contain duplicated ones in column 2. > then it will like: > ..

Re: I have a Debian question, I think.

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 11:03:30PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > Well, I just got handed to me, Strong hands. >a couple of HP p1130 monitors. Both with > less than 300 hours on them. Just out of the box about two-three months > ago. They are pretty big and heavy (67# and about 20"x20"x20"). > > S

RE: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 22:19 -0500, Bruffey, Mark wrote: > I'm up! Had to play around with "interfaces" and iwconfig a little, but > now good to go. Thanks for all tips and assistance. You're a great > bunch! Mark Now, if we can just get you to stop top posting. AH-HA! Take that from Obvious Man!

RE: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

I'm up! Had to play around with "interfaces" and iwconfig a little, but now good to go. Thanks for all tips and assistance. You're a great bunch! Mark -Original Message- From: cga2000 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 6:48 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject:

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 22:02 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/03/07 20:17, Mike McCarty wrote: > > Daniel B. wrote: > >> Mike McCarty wrote: > >> > >>> ... If power fails during a write, and the drive > >>> scribbles on the disc in a spiral pattern as the head moves > >>> toward the parking area, t

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:02:49PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > The ST138 > > Christ on a stick, man, that's *ANCIENT*! > > Seagate has had a lot of improvements since they released the > *half-height* 32*MB* (that's correct: megabyte, not gigabyte) drive. > > Heck, at work I had a 40MB

I have a Debian question, I think.

Well, I just got handed to me, a couple of HP p1130 monitors. Both with less than 300 hours on them. Just out of the box about two-three months ago. They are pretty big and heavy (67# and about 20"x20"x20"). So, these things are VERY configurable. Display up to 2048x1536 at 75Hz. I am using 1600x1

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/03/07 20:17, Mike McCarty wrote: > Daniel B. wrote: >> Mike McCarty wrote: >> >>> ... If power fails during a write, and the drive >>> scribbles on the disc in a spiral pattern as the head moves >>> toward the parking area, that particular disc i

Re: dell computer construction

The discussion on dell and linux was what prompted me to make that post. When I bought this Dell back in August of 1999 the only way Dell would install linux was if you were a business. I got a bad combination of win98se and office2000 that crashed the system regularly because c:\windows\win38

Re: [OT] How much open is OpenSolaris?

Scribit Mike McCarty dies 03/04/2007 hora 20:19: > AIUI, BSD is not compatible with GPL. Well, the FSF thinks it is. And says so on its website. At least if you're talking about the FreeBSD licence, aka 2-clauses BSD licence, or the modified BSD licence, aka 3-clauses BSD licence. The original BS

Re: Permissions Question

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 08:25:15PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 06:32:47PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > "Thomas H. George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Before shutting the old system down I burnt /home/tom to a cd. > Then I switched out the hardware, di

Re: Debian User List

Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Michael Pobega wrote: > >> It would surely cut down on the number of RTFM and STFW responses, which > >> I have to say don't appear as often as I expected they would. > > > > Actually, I have yet to see anyone on the list tell anyone to RTFM and > > ST

Re: [OT] How much open is OpenSolaris?

Michael Pobega wrote: From what I remember, OpenSolaris is distributed under the CDDL license[0]. The license is actually written by Sun, and according to the Wikipedia article "The [FSF] considers it a free license incompatible with the GNU General Public License (GPL)". I guess this means that

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

Daniel B. wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: ... If power fails during a write, and the drive scribbles on the disc in a spiral pattern as the head moves toward the parking area, that particular disc is hosed. But the disks almost surely don't scribble on the disk in a spiral pattern. (They'd detec

Re: Permissions Question

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 06:32:47PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > "Thomas H. George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I rebooted and gdm starts, opens icewm with aforementioned problems. > > > > I can only stop gdm as root. > > > > If I run startx as tom it starts gdm and opens icewm with the sa

Re: delete lines that contain duplicated column items

On 4/4/07, Cameron Hutchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jeff Zhang wrote: >On 4/3/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On 04/03/07 07:39, Jeff Zhang wrote: >> [snip] >> > >> > >> > I just care about duplicated ones in column 2, if so, to delete the >> line. >> >> Does it matter whic

Re: Bad cups printing after upgrade from sarge to etch

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:55:09PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > I would try to change the quality setting by using the "lpoptions" > command, both as your normal user and as root. Maybe this will turn up a > clue. Is your normal user a member of the "lpadmin" group? No, but I can do that as root

Re: Etch: how to make own xen domU kernel ?

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 11:08:38PM +0200, Predrag Gavrilovic wrote: > Same thing is on my to-do list. I've managed to find this link: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=382699 > There's also a workaround that should make it possible to patch debian > kernel for xen using linux-patch

Re: fetchmail syslog messages

Apr 3 12:40:02 big fetchmail[4337]: Server CommonName mismatch: localhost != mail.mesanetworks.net Apr 3 12:40:02 big fetchmail[4337]: Server certificate verification error: self signed certificate It just means that the remote end haven't set up their server certificate properly. Nothing to

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:01:26AM EDT, Bruffey, Mark wrote: >OK, now the card is seen by iwconfig. Had to install the firmware as >instructed, thanks. > >Not able to connect to WAP, however, so need a couple of pointers there. >This system is set to connect by wire to my work LAN,

Re: fetchmail syslog messages

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 01:03:38PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I've turned on logging in fetchmail because I'm curious about some > claims that it (fetchmail, not loggign) does bad things. I find that > every time fetchmail polls my ISP's imap server it writes the > following messages into syslog

mlDonkey and DNS resolution

I installed the last version of mlDonkey in Sid. At startup I receive this message: == Welcome to MLDonkey 2.8.4 DNS resolution does not work == I read that this was a old bug, resolved from some time. However,

Re: delete lines that contain duplicated column items

Jeff Zhang wrote: >On 4/3/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On 04/03/07 07:39, Jeff Zhang wrote: >> [snip] >> > >> > >> > I just care about duplicated ones in column 2, if so, to delete the >> line. >> >> Does it matter which line is deleted? >> >no, have a unique column 2 and keep

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:10:32AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 2 Apr, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 04:20:04PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> Since some of the al-Qaeda and taliban prisoner's were in fact denied > >> their GC protections, by being to

Re: GPG and Signing

"John Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > While we're still on this, why do most of your (Debian-users-who-sign) > emails show up in OE with the signature and the email text as > attachments? It seems whether I use GPG or a Thawte cert, they still > don't show up as attachments. Are you doing

Re: Postfix-Sender and recipient restriction problem

main.cf: alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases append_dot_mydomain = no biff = no broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes config_directory = /etc/postfix content_filter = scan:127.0.0.1:10025 header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/header_check home_mailbox = Maildir/ inet_interfac

Re: Etch: how to make own xen domU kernel ?

Same thing is on my to-do list. I've managed to find this link: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=382699 There's also a workaround that should make it possible to patch debian kernel for xen using linux-patch-debian-2.6.18, official debian package, and then use make-kpkg to build xe

Re: sar output : cpu idle time: formatted

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 13:29 -0700, lost butler wrote: > Hello Folks, > > I would appreciate some pointers on how to solve this problem. > > The output of sar shows cpu idle% to be zero when top being monitored > at the same time shows 97%. I am using sarge. sysstat 5.0.6-5, 2.6.18 > kernel. >

Re: known_hosts are encrypted ?

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 22:21 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 23:10 +0530, Bhasker C V wrote: > > I figured this out > > There is /etc/ssh/ssh_config which has an option HashKnownHosts > > if > > HashKnownHosts yes > > then the hostnames are not in plain text in the known_

sar output : cpu idle time: formatted

Hello Folks, I would appreciate some pointers on how to solve this problem. The output of sar shows cpu idle% to be zero when top being monitored at the same time shows 97%. I am using sarge. sysstat 5.0.6-5, 2.6.18 kernel. Please cc the email to me, I am not subscribed to the list Any help/po

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: > On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:12:32PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> Michael Pobega wrote: [Etch ships with an old glibc, and is getting bad reviews because of it. This is holding x86 users back, when they could be runnin

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The thing about Debian is that it had most of things I was looking for > in a distro, at the time I was distro-hopping: > > 1) A democratic and community based distro [...] > 2) A distribution that supports free software [...] > 3) Stability [...] > 4)

Re: how to read debian-user as newsgroup using Evolution

michael wrote: > On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 08:39 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 04/03/07 08:27, michael wrote: >> > I'm trying to read d-u as a newsgroup using Evolution (details below) >> > but can't get it to work... anybody else succeeded? >>

Re: known_hosts are encrypted ?

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 23:10 +0530, Bhasker C V wrote: > I figured this out > There is /etc/ssh/ssh_config which has an option HashKnownHosts > if > HashKnownHosts yes > then the hostnames are not in plain text in the known_hosts file of the > user. So, bash_completion is not able to get the

Re: how to read debian-user as newsgroup using Evolution

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/03/07 13:08, michael wrote: > On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 08:39 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 04/03/07 08:27, michael wrote: >>> I'm trying to read d-u as a newsgroup using Evolution (details bel

sar output : cpu idle time

Hello Folks, I would appreciate some pointers on how to solve this problem. The output of sar shows cpu idle% to be zero when top being monitored at the same time shows 97%. I am using sarge. sysstat 5.0.6-5, 2.6.18 kernel. Please cc the email to me, I am not subscribed to the list Any help/po

Re: GPL v3?

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 14:18 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > Actually I'd like to hear it too. The GNU GPL is very Debian related, > seeing as Debian is one of the only distros with a strong voice when > it comes to free software. And I'm very interested to hear the legal > side of things, since I re

Re: Mozilla and Flash

On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 15:16:40 -0400 Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 12:47:22PM -0500, Dave Walker wrote: > > Running Mozilla/5.0 1.7.8-1sarge10(current stable release). > > > > I am curious whether it is po

Re: how to read debian-user as newsgroup using Evolution

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 19:08 +0100, michael wrote: > then when I click OK (having set my SMTP etc) it sits there > indefinitely saying "loading" and doesn't produce a lists of newsgroups I was bitten by this too, you actually need to select Folder → Subscriptions (or the equivalent in your version

Re: GPL v3?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: > On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 17:45 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> Greg, >> >> I am very interested in the GPLv3. >> >> This tirade of yours, I would like to hear so if you'd like to voice >> your opinion, I'm asking. If you think it's not ap

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:12:32PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > > > [Etch ships with an old glibc, and is getting bad reviews > > > because of it. This is holding x86 users back, when they could > > > be running Ubuntu or anot

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 12:17 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > On closer inspection, I found that my panacea.dat inside > ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/randomnumber.default is corrupted. Is there any way > to reconstruct this file based on the emails that I have? My emails seem to > be intact though.

Re: Bad cups printing after upgrade from sarge to etch

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 14:43:21 -0300, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > Hi. > > I had a sarge system running as a print server. After upgrading it to > etch, I recreated the cups config files (the old ones didn't work) and > the printers. > > The strange thing is... I have an Epson Stylus Color 850,

Re: Debian User List

Michael Pobega wrote: >> It would surely cut down on the number of RTFM and STFW responses, which >> I have to say don't appear as often as I expected they would. >> > > Actually, I have yet to see anyone on the list tell anyone to RTFM and > STFW. I see that more or less on IRC (Because it's so f

Re: new kernel problem

On Tuesday 03 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The only reason I need a new kernel is because when I compile modules > and try to install them it says: > FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper > (/lib/modules/2.6.18-4-amd64/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module > format. Can you compile tis modul

Re: Mozilla and Flash

Dave Walker wrote: Running Mozilla/5.0 1.7.8-1sarge10(current stable release). I am curious whether it is possible to get some version of Flash to work? --- Here is what I did t

Re: Debian User List

> Exactly my point. There are a few similar, but not quite so direct as > that. It seems that even the rudest people here have some tact. That > is one reason I like this list so much. People here are quite > knowledgeable, and it seems quite patient. > The most knowledgeable and least rude

Re: Mozilla and Flash

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 12:47:22 -0500, Dave Walker wrote: > Running Mozilla/5.0 1.7.8-1sarge10(current stable release). > > I am curious whether it is possible to get some version of Flash to work? > -

Re: GPL v3?

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 17:45 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Greg, > > I am very interested in the GPLv3. > > This tirade of yours, I would like to hear so if you'd like to voice > your opinion, I'm asking. If you think it's not appropriate here, then > send it to me off list please. debian-legal@lists

Re: Mozilla and Flash

Dave Walker wrote: > Running Mozilla/5.0 1.7.8-1sarge10(current stable release). > [message snipped] > > Anybody got a hint or even better, a solution (one that does not > involve -- wait for Etch, etc...I know someone wants to say that!) ??? I do not know the solution for Sarge. I am using

Re: GPL v3?

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 13:58 -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tuesday 03 April 2007 11:12, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: > > And since many people are complaining about OT stuff already. I'll > > stop. > > I'm not sure that

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: > >> It sounds to me like something modified your prefs.js file. That is the >> file that controls which mail folders and accounts are available. >> According to the official documentation, you're not su

Re: GPL v3?

On 04/03/2007 10:50 AM, Joe Hart wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: >> This is not the right forum for me to express my opinions as >> to what is wrong with GPLV3. > > This tirade of yours, I would like to hear so if you'd like to > voice your opinion, I'm asking. I too am interested. Do you think we c

Re: Mozilla and Flash

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 12:47:22PM -0500, Dave Walker wrote: > Running Mozilla/5.0 1.7.8-1sarge10(current stable release). > > I am curious whether it is possible to get some version of Flash to work? > Here is what I did to this point: > > apt-

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: [snip] >> I agree that something needs to be done so that Sid doesn't have to >> freeze when Testing freezes. Right now there are loads of packages >> waiting in experimental for Etch to release so they can enter Sid. It's >> k

Re: Noobe XDM questions

On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 18:48:30 +0300, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > And it might also be that .xsession is ignored if you run *dm. This is certainly not the case using xdm. manoj ps: I certainly see these things happen in my sessions #!/bin/zsh # $XConsortium: xini

fetchmail syslog messages

I've turned on logging in fetchmail because I'm curious about some claims that it (fetchmail, not loggign) does bad things. I find that every time fetchmail polls my ISP's imap server it writes the following messages into syslog: Apr 3 12:40:02 big fetchmail[4337]: Server CommonName mismatch: loc

Re: Permissions Question

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas H. George wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 05:19:29PM -0700, Jeff D wrote: >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Thomas H. George wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:17:05AM -0700, Jeff D wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Thomas H. George wrote: >

Re: Debian User List

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: > On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:46:49AM +, Joe Hart wrote: >> It would surely cut down on the number of RTFM and STFW responses, which >> I have to say don't appear as often as I expected they would. > > > Actually, I have yet

Re: ATI/AMD Radeon XPRESS 200M free driver

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 11:00 +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > May I call your attention to the ATI/AMD Radeon XPRESS 200M Linux Driver > Petition at > http://www.petitiononline.com/x200MLin/petition.html I've added mine. On my one and a half year old HP I still lack hardware 3D with the radeon dr

Re: GPL v3?

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 05:45:48PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > > About all I can say without going into a long and very OT response > > (tirade as some would call it). > > > > I am very interested in the GPLv3. > > This tirade of yours, I would like to hear so if you'd like to voice > your opin

Re: GPL v3?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 03 April 2007 11:12, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > And since many people are complaining about OT stuff already. I'll > stop. I'm not sure that discussion of the license under which (virtually) all of Debian is lice

Re: GPL v3?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 05:45:48PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 22:34 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > >> I wrote: > >>> It's appalling, but there is nothing to be done. > >> Doug writes: > >>> Would you elaborate?

Re: Noobe XDM questions

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 06:48:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 06:25:42PM -0700, Terrence Branscombe wrote: > > > Kin

Re: how to read debian-user as newsgroup using Evolution

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 08:39 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/03/07 08:27, michael wrote: > > I'm trying to read d-u as a newsgroup using Evolution (details below) > > but can't get it to work... anybody else succeeded? > > The group is linux.de

Re: GPL v3 ?

Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: > I'd like to know what the more knowledgeable people here would have to > say about the GPLv3 though, since I really don't know much about it > except that it covers DRM (Which previous versions of the GPL didn't > touch). > > Does anyone have a lis

Re: ATI/AMD Radeon XPRESS 200M free driver

I also believe to the movement of Intel and I think that Intel's choice will help the open source but unfotunatelly many people have ati's or nvidia's graphic card and i'm one of them. I have a laptop whith the ati express 200m. I bought this product cause of the good cpu and its very good price.

Bad cups printing after upgrade from sarge to etch

Hi. I had a sarge system running as a print server. After upgrading it to etch, I recreated the cups config files (the old ones didn't work) and the printers. The strange thing is... I have an Epson Stylus Color 850, and there are two drivers in the list given by Cups that would work with it: -

Re: known_hosts are encrypted ?

All, Sorry for the query I figured this out There is /etc/ssh/ssh_config which has an option HashKnownHosts if HashKnownHosts yes then the hostnames are not in plain text in the known_hosts file of the user. So, bash_completion is not able to get the hostnames. thanks On Tue, 2007-04-03

Re: GPL v3?

Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg, > > I am very interested in the GPLv3. > > This tirade of yours, I would like to hear so if you'd like to voice > your opinion, I'm asking. If you think it's not appropriate here, > then send it to me off list please. > > Joe If off list then please

known_hosts are encrypted ?

All, I use bash completion and was pretty happy for some time till i upgraded to etch. I see that the .ssh/known_hosts file for all the new entries added contains one line per host added as |1|= since this is encrypted, bash_completion somehow is not working for me. Is there any method to fix th

Mozilla and Flash

Running Mozilla/5.0 1.7.8-1sarge10(current stable release). I am curious whether it is possible to get some version of Flash to work? --- Here is what I did to this point: apt-get

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: > On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 10:49 +, Joe Hart wrote: >> This point has already been answered in the Sidux forums. They have no >> plans of tracking testing. Sidux = Sid. > > I guess I made my point, but wrongly. I understood you

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

Bruffey, Mark([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > OK, now the card is seen by iwconfig. Had to install the firmware as > instructed, thanks. > > Not able to connect to WAP, however, so need a couple of pointers there. > This system is set to connect by wire to my work LAN, so I think I

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

Joe Hart wrote: > It sounds to me like something modified your prefs.js file. That is the > file that controls which mail folders and accounts are available. > According to the official documentation, you're not supposed to directly > edit that file, but I know it is possible. BUT you cannot let

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael M. wrote: > On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 06:51 +, Joe Hart wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Greg Folkert wrote: >>> On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 00:45 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: There have been a lot of talk and sug

Re: Noobe XDM questions

Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 06:25:42PM -0700, Terrence Branscombe wrote: > > Kinda new to Debian, and Linux, so forgive me if this has been > > covered to death already, but the docs suggest that users can

Re: GPL v3?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 22:34 -0500, John Hasler wrote: >> I wrote: >>> It's appalling, but there is nothing to be done. >> Doug writes: >>> Would you elaborate? It left me concerned but I'm not a language lawyer >>> so I don't rea

Debian etch on SONY VAIO VGN-FE880E/H

I have searched google, tuxmobile, linux-laptop etc. I could n't find any much useful info regarding installing etch as dual boot in SONY VAIO VGN-FE880E/H. I will be thankful for any advice or pointers regarding partioin shrinking retaining all that sony gives intially including its restore parti

Re: ATI/AMD Radeon XPRESS 200M free driver

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 11:00:51AM +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > May I call your attention to the ATI/AMD Radeon XPRESS 200M Linux Driver > Petition at > http://www.petitiononline.com/x200MLin/petition.html > ? > Maybe this is the way to reach hard

Re: Permissions Question

"Thomas H. George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I rebooted and gdm starts, opens icewm with aforementioned problems. > > I can only stop gdm as root. > > If I run startx as tom it starts gdm and opens icewm with the same ^^^ gdm too? That's strange ... > probl

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 06:51:02AM +, Joe Hart wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 00:45 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > >> There have been a lot of talk and suggestions, for example, Joey Hess > >> described Constantly Usable Tes

Re: Debian User List

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:46:49AM +, Joe Hart wrote: > > It would surely cut down on the number of RTFM and STFW responses, which > I have to say don't appear as often as I expected they would. > Actually, I have yet to see anyone on the list t

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

Wei Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > CaT wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 02:10:08PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: > >> You know that Etch is about to release. This means that new > >> features and software will not get into it any more. > >> > >> S

Re: GPL v3?

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:15:52AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 22:34 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > > It's appalling, but there is nothing to be done. > > Doug writes: > > > Would you elaborate? It left me concerned but I'm not a language lawyer > > > so I don't really unders

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 09:14 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 16:31 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > > > > That is correct for the ipw2100 I recently installed. I assume it > > > > would be the same for the 2200 as well. > > > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 23:38 +0200, Sven Arvid

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 10:49 +, Joe Hart wrote: > This point has already been answered in the Sidux forums. They have no > plans of tracking testing. Sidux = Sid. I guess I made my point, but wrongly. CUT should be NEWER versions of things in Testing, perhaps everything the same as Sid, but

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 06:51 +, Joe Hart wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 00:45 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > >> There have been a lot of talk and suggestions, for example, Joey Hess > >> described Constantly Usable Test

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