Re: smtp through a ssh tunnel to exim4 or other MTA

2007-03-13 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 10:29:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:21:33 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez said, > "Do you have ssh access to P[machine belonging to ISP]? > Were you planning on tunneling?" > > This is my configuration for sending mail from home. > SSH is not needed o

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Hyslop wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: >> Yes. Isn't Debian nice? If you want to be brave and do it again and >> run Sid. > > Hmmm tempting, but I'm afraid if I do that I'll be totally spoiled > and never want to touch my work PC again (you know, t

Re: Updating Gnome menu without logout/login

2007-03-13 Thread George Chelidze
Greg Vickers wrote: Hi George, George Chelidze wrote: Hello All, I have the following problem with my sarge installation: When I install a new desktop application and if it has a correspondent item in a menu, I can see it in debian menu but not in my gnome menu before I logout and login a

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > Joe Hart wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to > gmane.linux.debian.user: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Michelle Konzack wrote: >>> Am 2007-02-25 15:49:20, schrieb Roberto C. Sanchez: T

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/14/07 01:52, Atis wrote: >> >> On 03/04/07 10:51, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > [snip] >> > ..the problem is not rpms, but mill wing speed and color in overcast >> > weather, as in white camo against white fog or clouds. >> >> Think of this as "enforced

Re: Updating Gnome menu without logout/login

2007-03-13 Thread Greg Vickers
Hi George, George Chelidze wrote: Hello All, I have the following problem with my sarge installation: When I install a new desktop application and if it has a correspondent item in a menu, I can see it in debian menu but not in my gnome menu before I logout and login again. Is there any way

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-13 Thread Atis
>> On 03/04/07 10:51, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip] > ..the problem is not rpms, but mill wing speed and color in overcast > weather, as in white camo against white fog or clouds. Think of this as "enforced Darwinism"! Right, after several generations we will have high-speed, high-maneuverabilit

Updating Gnome menu without logout/login

2007-03-13 Thread George Chelidze
Hello All, I have the following problem with my sarge installation: When I install a new desktop application and if it has a correspondent item in a menu, I can see it in debian menu but not in my gnome menu before I logout and login again. Is there any way to update gnome menu without logout

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Jiann-Ming Su
On 2/15/07, Siju George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Could some one recommend which File System is best for partitions above 600GB? I am considering XFS. The System is Debian Sarge for amd64. Hope there are no issues with this setup. please let me know if i should be careful in any area. Also

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Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/14/07 00:05, Mike McClain wrote: > On 3/5/07, Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Can some of you post some Linux questions in general and also about >> Debian? May be with short answers but that's not necessary. If I can >> get a big list of q

Debian Etch RC2

2007-03-13 Thread Ben Humpert
Have you seen http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_rc2_test/ ? Please help them (so you help yourself and others :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Mike McClain
On 3/5/07, Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Can some of you post some Linux questions in general and also about >Debian? May be with short answers but that's not necessary. If I can >get a big list of questions, I'll try to get answers and the more >confident I will be. > >Please also post trick

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 23:48 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/13/07 20:52, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Tarek Soliman wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > > to gmane.linux.debian.user: > > > >>> Now as far as video, who cares about that... servers don't need GUI > >>> stuff. > >>> > >> Tell th

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 20:52, Paul Johnson wrote: > Tarek Soliman wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > to gmane.linux.debian.user: > >>> Now as far as video, who cares about that... servers don't need GUI >>> stuff. >>> >> Tell that to our admins who ru

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 23:33, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 20:52 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Why not just go bioethanol in a larger percentage year round? Portland is, >>> and it might go statewide by the end of the session

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 04:33 +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:48:20 -0500, Greg wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Unless you've been in the Marine Corps, you'll never understand. > > > > Case in point I have 2 birthdays per year, March 14th > > ..hey, happy birthd

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 20:52 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > Why not just go bioethanol in a larger percentage year round? Portland is, > > and it might go statewide by the end of the session. Gasoline sales are > > banned here for the better. > > Probably because to produc

emacs21 held hostage to installing other packages

2007-03-13 Thread Charles Blair
I recently installed the testing (etch) incarnation of debian, and have added emacs (emacs21). I would like to add gnumeric and a number of other packages, but aptitude warns me that, to do so, I have to downgrade some things (libc6 is one), and that this will delete emacs21. -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: How to reject spam with embedded graphics

2007-03-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 19:02 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > Michelle Konzack wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > to gmane.linux.debian.user: > > > Am 2007-03-07 11:19:30, schrieb Chris Lale: > >> There was some discussion on the list a while ago about how to deal with > >> spam that has tex

Re: xorg.conf & multiple screen

2007-03-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 01:17:17AM +0200, gustavo halperin wrote: > Hello > > I have a laptop with only VGA output (not s-video output), so in order to > connect my laptop to the LCD-TV I made a VGA to TV converter (VGA to TV). My > laptop have resolution of 1024x768, my external LCD monitor ha

xorg.conf & multiple screen

2007-03-13 Thread gustavo halperin
Hello I have a laptop with only VGA output (not s-video output), so in order to connect my laptop to the LCD-TV I made a VGA to TV converter (VGA to TV ). My laptop have resolution of 1024x768, my external LCD monitor have also

Re: user defined mime types, source highlighting

2007-03-13 Thread Zoho Vignochi
> "gedit" support already Syntax Highlighting of Sourcecode and if the > syntax for those "octave" files is currently not supported, create a > new syntax file and put it into your config directory. Yes, that's true but what I want is for gedit to automagically recognizes the source file as an oct

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > Why not just go bioethanol in a larger percentage year round? Portland is, > and it might go statewide by the end of the session. Gasoline sales are > banned here for the better. Probably because to produce 1 gallon of bio you need to use 1 gallon of gasoline. It's com

Re: Checking GPG Signatures - Debian Keyring is Huge !

2007-03-13 Thread Nick Boyce
Stephen Cormier wrote: > On March 13, 2007 11:04:44 pm Nick Boyce wrote: >> Do I *really* need to add such a large keyring to my own keyring, just >> to verify the dang GPG signature on a CD image ? > > Have you tried/heard of the --keyring option when using gpg? That way you > only > need to sp

xorg.conf & multiple screen

2007-03-13 Thread gustavo halperin
Hello I have a laptop with only VGA output (not s-video output), so in order to connect my laptop to the LCD-TV I made a VGA to TV converter (VGA to TV ). My laptop have resolution of 1024x768, my external LCD monitor have also

Re: How to reject spam with embedded graphics

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Michelle Konzack wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > Am 2007-03-07 11:19:30, schrieb Chris Lale: >> There was some discussion on the list a while ago about how to deal with >> spam that has text as graphics embedded in it. There was disagreement >> about wheth

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Folkert wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 10:33 -0500, Tarek Soliman wrote: >> > Now as far as video, who cares about that... servers don't need GUI >> > stuff. >> > >> >> Tell that to our admins who run redhat and suse. Want to

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:48:20 -0500, Greg wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Unless you've been in the Marine Corps, you'll never understand. > > Case in point I have 2 birthdays per year, March 14th ..hey, happy birthday! ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:07:23PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> OpenVMS used to be more popular with geeks than Unix was. But >> businesses and Universities decided that it was worth it to trade 2 >>

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Marty
Marc Shapiro wrote: I have been running Debian since Bo, which was about eight, or nine years ago IIRC. I have been through several system upgrades and hard disc changes, but I just move the HD to the new system, or copy it to a new HD and install that. I've been doing that that since Slink

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 03:43:03PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: >> >> WTF, I see Windows mentality has become the norm. >> >> and RIP TelnetD (IOW the telnet Daemon) right out of the machine. >> OpenSSH (a

Re: daylight savings time

2007-03-13 Thread John Hasler
Marty Landman writes: > I've got NTP running... NTP has nothing to do with DST. The servers send UTC. It is up to the clients to deal with their time zones. > Only problem is that I am getting the time as an hour earlier than it > really is, since the new daylight savings time here in the US we

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Tarek Soliman wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: >> Now as far as video, who cares about that... servers don't need GUI >> stuff. >> > > Tell that to our admins who run redhat and suse. Want to disable these > guys? Remove some X libraries. (The one guy who u

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-03-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:36:36 -0600, Ron wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/04/07 20:25, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > .._amen_ to that, look at W and the US. ;o) > > Bashing W at every turn makes you look *really* juvenile. ..what???

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Joe Hart wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Michelle Konzack wrote: >> Am 2007-02-25 15:49:20, schrieb Roberto C. Sanchez: >>> The US is the biggest energy market in the world, though China is >> >> The US

Re: Checking GPG Signatures - Debian Keyring is Huge !

2007-03-13 Thread Stephen Cormier
On March 13, 2007 11:04:44 pm Nick Boyce wrote: > Do I *really* need to add such a large keyring to my own keyring, just > to verify the dang GPG signature on a CD image ? Have you tried/heard of the --keyring option when using gpg? That way you only need to specify the file containing the key no

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/13/07 12:53, Mike McCarty wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>> All of those should work, with (depending on the card/chip) the >>> possible

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Marc Shapiro
Nate Bargmann wrote: * Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Mar 13 17:08 -0500]: With a desktop system, every few years there seems to be a reason to reinstall, so far mostly due to buying new laptops, disks, and/or the incompetence of hardware service people who "help" me by putting Win

Re: daylight savings time

2007-03-13 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 10:20:17PM -0400, Marty Landman wrote: > I've got NTP running with the following conf file: > Only problem is that I am getting the time as an hour earlier than it > really is, since the new daylight savings time here in the US went > into effect over the weekend. I have

Re: "Failed!" message received when EXT3 filesystem mounted

2007-03-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 09:34:47AM +0700, Ken Heard wrote: > I have Etch installed on a Toshiba Tecra 8000 laptop. There are five > hda partitions which have the EXT3 file system mounted thereon. Hda1 is > a physical partition where /boot is mounted. The other four, hda5 > through hda8, are lo

Re: daylight savings time

2007-03-13 Thread Ken Irving
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 10:20:17PM -0400, Marty Landman wrote: > Only problem is that I am getting the time as an hour earlier than it > really is, since the new daylight savings time here in the US went > into effect over the weekend. I have my timezone set to EST. EST, Eastern Standard Time, s

Re: daylight savings time

2007-03-13 Thread Marc Shapiro
Marty Landman wrote: I've got NTP running with the following conf file: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/ntp.conf server otherntp.server.org# A stratum 1 server at server.org server ntp.research.gov # A stratum 2 server at research.gov restrict 127.0.0.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Only probl

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Grieveson
> OK, so I installed Sarge on my machine. The other day, I decided to > upgrade to Etch. I modified the sources file, changing "stable" to > "etch", and ran `apt-get --ignore-hold dist-upgrade`. After sorting out > one minor issue with inetd, apg-get reports everything's OK, and the > /etc/debian_v

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 21:04, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:49:14 -0500, Roberto wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 08:57:31PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip] >>> >> I'm not sure exactly what you are saying her

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 20:57, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:42:20 -0600, Ron wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> On 03/04/07 10:51, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip] >>> mills, is how they kill birds, especially in overcast weather. >>> Mode

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 19:09, Pete wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 01:43:35AM +0200, Atis wrote: >> On 3/5/07, Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Can some of you post some Linux questions in general and also about >>> Debian? May be with short answers but th

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > May be you were hit with > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=386469 Yep, that's the one. Thanks for the info. - -- Jim Hyslop Dreampossible: Better software. Simply. http://www.dreampossible.ca

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 18:38, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:59:18AM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> [snip] >> [snip] >> A good FS should not suffer corruption regardless of what the >> hardware does, if we're

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hasler wrote: > Did you file a bug report? Ah, no, it never occurred to me. I did have some problems earlier with aptitude (see my thread about a month or so ago entitled "AAARGH! I mean Aptitude problems" :-) so I'm not entirely sure user error d

daylight savings time

2007-03-13 Thread Marty Landman
I've got NTP running with the following conf file: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/ntp.conf server otherntp.server.org# A stratum 1 server at server.org server ntp.research.gov # A stratum 2 server at research.gov restrict 127.0.0.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Only problem is that I am gettin

"Failed!" message received when EXT3 filesystem mounted

2007-03-13 Thread Ken Heard
I have Etch installed on a Toshiba Tecra 8000 laptop. There are five hda partitions which have the EXT3 file system mounted thereon. Hda1 is a physical partition where /boot is mounted. The other four, hda5 through hda8, are logical partitions where / (root), /usr, /tmp and /home are mounted

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:49:14 -0500, Roberto wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 08:57:31PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > ..uhuh. The Sissy Boy Traitor stole one mans slot, and then ran > > AWOL. A military man with enough balls to get the job done, and > > enough

Checking GPG Signatures - Debian Keyring is Huge !

2007-03-13 Thread Nick Boyce
So ... I just downloaded a Debian Sarge CD image, checked the MD5 sum was okay, and then just for completeness figured I'd check the GPG signature on the MD5 sums file ... GPG told me I needed DSA key id 88C7C1F7 to verify the signature ... http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify tells me I can get

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:42:20 -0600, Ron wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/04/07 10:51, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:05:52 -0600, Ron wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> > >> On 02/27/07 09:52, [EMA

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 07:40:03PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Hmmm. Then they went from 10 fast-but-flaky Suns to 100 > slow-and-disease-ridden generic PCs with Windows. I'd hate to think > what is coming next :-) > Vista. Word Processing online via Google. Disposable printers in a ho

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 01:43:35AM +0200, Atis wrote: > On 3/5/07, Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Can some of you post some Linux questions in general and also about > >Debian? May be with short answers but that's not necessary. If I can > >get a big list of questions, I'll try to get answer

Re: Using quotes in bash script parameters

2007-03-13 Thread Cédric Lucantis
Le mercredi 14 mars 2007 02:07, Cédric Lucantis a écrit : > Le mercredi 14 mars 2007 01:04, Marco De Vitis a écrit : > > Hi, > > this is not strictly Debian-related, but I'm doing it on Etch, so... :) > > > > Let's say I'm writing a script like this: > > > #! /bin/bash > > > > > > SUBJECT="This is

Re: Using quotes in bash script parameters

2007-03-13 Thread Cédric Lucantis
Le mercredi 14 mars 2007 01:04, Marco De Vitis a écrit : > Hi, > this is not strictly Debian-related, but I'm doing it on Etch, so... :) > > Let's say I'm writing a script like this: > > #! /bin/bash > > > > SUBJECT="This is a test mail" > > WARNMSG="An error occurred" > > WARNCMD="mail -s \"${SUBJ

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 08:51:17AM +0800, Bob wrote: > > If choice is our greatest asset (which it is) it's also the greatest > hindrance to GNU/Linux adoption on the corporate desktop. > > Can you see an elegant way out of this paradox? > I can see where choice can be perceived as a hinrance t

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Bob
Tarek Soliman wrote: Can some of you post some Linux questions in general and also about Debian? May be with short answers but that's not necessary. If I can get a big list of questions, I'll try to get answers and the more confident I will be. Please also post tricky and troubleshooting questio

Re: Blacklisted module still loads!

2007-03-13 Thread A. F. Cano
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:24:32PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > ... > udev manages non-removable devices too. Moreover, it consults > blacklist entries in the directory /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/. Try > placing a file in that directory containing the name of the module you > wish to blacklist. Ah!

Re: Blacklisted module still loads!

2007-03-13 Thread A. F. Cano
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 09:59:44AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > "A. F. Cano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is on an Etch system (recently upgraded from Sarge), kernel > > 2.6.18 from the deb source package available and compiled locally. > > If you compile your own kernel why don't you

Re: Blacklisted module still loads!

2007-03-13 Thread A. F. Cano
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:01:14PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > ... > > My fix on FC2 was to add a few lines in /etc/rc.d/rc.local, as below. I had thought about doing something like that, but was not sure at what point in the boot process the incorrect driver was being loaded, and when anything a

Using quotes in bash script parameters

2007-03-13 Thread Marco De Vitis
Hi, this is not strictly Debian-related, but I'm doing it on Etch, so... :) Let's say I'm writing a script like this: #! /bin/bash SUBJECT="This is a test mail" WARNMSG="An error occurred" WARNCM

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Pete
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 01:43:35AM +0200, Atis wrote: > On 3/5/07, Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Can some of you post some Linux questions in general and also about > >Debian? May be with short answers but that's not necessary. If I can > >get a big list of questions, I'll try to get answer

Re: Blacklisted module still loads!

2007-03-13 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:52:31 -0400 "A. F. Cano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know what else to try. I have tested the following in > /etc/modules.conf: > > alias snd-cs46xx off > blacklist snd-cs46xx > install snd-cs46xx /bin/true (found this on a web site) > > in /etc/discover.conf

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Atis
On 3/5/07, Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can some of you post some Linux questions in general and also about Debian? May be with short answers but that's not necessary. If I can get a big list of questions, I'll try to get answers and the more confident I will be. Please also post tricky an

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 03:43:03PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > WTF, I see Windows mentality has become the norm. > > and RIP TelnetD (IOW the telnet Daemon) right out of the machine. > OpenSSH (as done by OpenBSD devs) is what should be defacto standard. > I wish it could really be that way e

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:07:23PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > OpenVMS used to be more popular with geeks than Unix was. But > businesses and Universities decided that it was worth it to trade 2 > slow-but-reliable VAXen for 10 fast-but-flaky Suns. > Hmmm. Then they went from 10 fast-but-flak

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:59:18AM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > [snip] > > >FYI, *any* filesystem has the potential to lose data on a sudden power > >outage. > > Umm, no. I suppose you haven't worked in telecomm. I've supported > file systems which never, ever, lost

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Mar 13 17:08 -0500]: > With a desktop system, every few years there seems to be a reason to > reinstall, so far mostly due to buying new laptops, disks, and/or the > incompetence of hardware service people who "help" me by putting > Windows XP back on th

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Tarek Soliman
> > So I ask: Is debian the only distro that sows the seed of CLI? I'm > > talking about having a "server" type computer, not a desktop. > > Slackware. > Really? A slackware server in a corporate environment? Interesting -- Tarek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Possible bug in 'sort -m'

2007-03-13 Thread Bob McGowan
I ran into this as a result of working with the SQL UNION operator and trying to then confirm what it did/does by using 'uniq' and 'sort'. So,for background, I first did: select count(from_number) from cross_reference and select count(to_number) from cross_reference and got 84919 in both

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Jim Hyslop wrote: > >> BTW, What is the minor issue that you had with inetd? In an ideal world, >> even that small issue should not occur... > > OK, now that you asked I dredged up the command history to get details > :-) It was openbsd-inetd that was failing. I finally figured out that it > was

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 13 March 2007 16:48, Jim Hyslop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > U... is that it?!? Is it really that simple to upgrade? Yes. No jest, you really did just upgrade from one distribution of Debian to another. When Etch is "relea

Re: Blacklisted module still loads!

2007-03-13 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 03:52, A. F. Cano wrote: > I don't know what else to try. I have tested the following in > /etc/modules.conf: > > alias snd-cs46xx off > blacklist snd-cs46xx > install snd-cs46xx /bin/true (found this on a web site) > > in /etc/discover.conf-2.6 and /etc/discover.d/alsa-ba

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread John Hasler
Jim Hyslop writes: > I finally figured out that it was because the openbsd-inetd process > wasn't being stopped before being restarted. So, I manually stopped > openbsd-inetd, ran `dpkg --configure openbsd-inetd` and now everything's > happy. Did you file a bug report? -- John Hasler -- To UNS

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 16:09, Tarek Soliman wrote: >> Tarek Soliman wrote: >>> "What is the best desktop-environment and/or window-manager to be put on >>> a server?" >> OK, my newbie answer: That's a trick question, right? Isn't the correct >> answer "none" ? >>

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread David A. Parker
Tarek Soliman wrote: Tarek Soliman wrote: "What is the best desktop-environment and/or window-manager to be put on a server?" OK, my newbie answer: That's a trick question, right? Isn't the correct answer "none" ? I was gonna say "Tell that to Redhat and ORACLE UNBREAKABLE LINUX" but I real

ANNOUNCE: truecrypt-installer -- utilities to get Truecrypt installed easily

2007-03-13 Thread Jari Aalto
Truecrypt version : 4.2a OS compatibility: tested in Ubuntu Feisty / Debian Etch (unstable) Kernel compatibility: tested in 2.6.18 ; max is 2.6.19 HOW TO USE Download and install the *.deb, read manual page: # man truecrypt-dpkg and run: # truecrypt-dpkg --auto

Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-13 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:12:39 -0400 > Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > >> For documents on the web I have this inelegant and heinous trick: I >> google for them. If a doc is in PDF format, Google will give you t

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Tarek Soliman
> Tarek Soliman wrote: > > "What is the best desktop-environment and/or window-manager to be put on > > a server?" > > OK, my newbie answer: That's a trick question, right? Isn't the correct > answer "none" ? > I was gonna say "Tell that to Redhat and ORACLE UNBREAKABLE LINUX" but I realized I d

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Hart wrote: > Yes. Isn't Debian nice? If you want to be brave and do it again and > run Sid. Hmmm tempting, but I'm afraid if I do that I'll be totally spoiled and never want to touch my work PC again (you know, the one that gives me the mon

Re: ACL support via NFS

2007-03-13 Thread Marco De Vitis
On 13/03/2007 18:00, Michelle Konzack wrote: Do you have tried to backport the ORIGINAL Debian Source 2.6.9-2 to Sarge? -- I have tried it and it works. No I didn't. Thanks for the suggestion but in the meantime I have copied what I needed with plain cp over the default NFS and then copied o

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Jim Hyslop wrote: >>U... is that it?!? Is it really that simple to upgrade? >> > > Yes. That's it. It is amazing, Isn't it? Wow. Almost as easy as installing a printer driver on my Mac - I opened the printer utility,

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Tarek Soliman
> > > > U... is that it?!? Is it really that simple to upgrade? > > > > Yes. Isn't Debian nice? If you want to be brave and do it again and > run Sid. > > Joe > An even nicer thing is that you can run sid in a chroot and "try before you upgrade" if you have enough space on a partition.

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread John Schmidt
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 14:19, Jim Hyslop wrote: > OK, so I installed Sarge on my machine. The other day, I decided to > upgrade to Etch. I modified the sources file, changing "stable" to > "etch", and ran `apt-get --ignore-hold dist-upgrade`. After sorting out > one minor issue with inetd, apg-ge

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:39:42 -0400 Jim Hyslop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > "What are four lowercase letters that are not legal flag arguments to > > the Berkeley UNIX version of 'ls'?" > Four letters... hmmm... do they spell a naughty word? :-) e, j, y, and z (for FSF / GNU ls)? Just ba

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Hyslop wrote: > OK, so I installed Sarge on my machine. The other day, I decided to > upgrade to Etch. I modified the sources file, changing "stable" to > "etch", and ran `apt-get --ignore-hold dist-upgrade`. After sorting out > one minor issue wit

Re: Eclipse crash

2007-03-13 Thread Tarek Soliman
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 04:19:52PM +0100, Christian Ribeaud wrote: > I am desperately trying to get Eclipse 3.2 working on my laptop. I > upgrated java to JDK1.6 but it did not change anything. Crashes are not > predicable and could happen at anytime. Starting Eclipse is not a > problem. Buf, a

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tarek Soliman wrote: > "What is the best desktop-environment and/or window-manager to be put on > a server?" OK, my newbie answer: That's a trick question, right? Isn't the correct answer "none" ? > "What are four lowercase letters that are not legal

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Jim Hyslop wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > OK, so I installed Sarge on my machine. The other day, I decided to > upgrade to Etch. I modified the sources file, changing "stable" to > "etch", and ran `apt-get --ignore-hold dist-upgrade`. After sorting out > one minor is

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 14:41, Martin Marcher wrote: > > Am 13.03.2007 um 19:11 schrieb Mike McCarty: > >> Michelle Konzack wrote: >>> Am 2007-03-08 16:22:20, schrieb Mitja Podreka: Also everybody in the US would be speaking German in that case. But I

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread judd
On 9 Mar, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 03:33:08PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> The Brits were worried until we told them that "the intelligence >> will be fixed around the policy", remember. And the reports which >> congress saw (both parties), were the "fixe

Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-13 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:12:39 -0400 Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > For documents on the web I have this inelegant and heinous trick: I > google for them. If a doc is in PDF format, Google will give you the > option to view it as HTML. The converted version is not always pretty

Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, so I installed Sarge on my machine. The other day, I decided to upgrade to Etch. I modified the sources file, changing "stable" to "etch", and ran `apt-get --ignore-hold dist-upgrade`. After sorting out one minor issue with inetd, apg-get reports e

Re: Non-free software in the kernel (in the main section!)?

2007-03-13 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:17:34 +0100 Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 2007-03-09 17:46:54, schrieb Trosinenko Anatoly: > > There is a driver MTD -> NFTL in the kernel-source-2.6.8 > > (2.6.8-16sarge1). > > Is it free software??? (See description in "make menuconfig".) There is

Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-13 Thread Juergen Fiedler
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 07:39:09PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Mike McCarty wrote: > > Joe Hart wrote: > > > > [snip] > >> > >> Noone is forcing you to use pdf files > >> > >> I disagree about it being forced on us. Many documents on the web ar

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