Mozilla upgrade -> cursor menu loss in Epiphany/Galeon

2005-01-05 Thread Adam Bogacki
Hi, following the last mozilla upgrade in unstable I've lost cursor menu function in Epiphany and Galeon - my most used browsers. Please bring this to the attention of the respective maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Adam Bogacki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCR

installing on a partition

2005-01-05 Thread Christian Evans
I will be completing a build in the next couple of days and have decided to install Debian on my new system. However, I also need XP installed, and I am not sure which I should install on my hard drive first. I have an extra IDE hard drive I could use if I have to, but the motherboard I have (D91

Re: sarge dist-upgrade today, no more keyboard

2005-01-05 Thread Mike Chandler
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 06:24 pm, John A Chaves wrote: > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 07:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I just now checked and I don't have the file "Xservers.dpkg-old" in that > > directory. > > Are you sure that's where it is? I don't have any way to search for it > > wi

Re: Re: install USB optical mouse

2005-01-05 Thread jianan
Hi Matt, Left out something important in the previous msg. How about sending me your XF86Config-4 file? thanks Jianan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

sharing /var/cache between two installations of debian?

2005-01-05 Thread Aldebaran
I am using apt-cacher and apt-build. apt-cacher keeps it's stash in /var/cache/apt-cacher/ and apt-build keeps it's stash in /var/cache/apt-build/repository. I have two debians installed. Deb1 and Deb2 on hda1 and hda2. I only use one at a time. For instance, I am using Deb1 currently, I make

Re: Re: install USB optical mouse

2005-01-05 Thread jianan
Hi matt, You can bet on that. I envy you. Have you used other USB devices before the mouse? The system might have been set up correctly before the mouse. Jianan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Synaptic toolbar missing icons and text

2005-01-05 Thread Aldebaran
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 11:30 pm, Gary Garibaldi wrote: > I seem to have lost the toolbar and it's icons to synaptic under sarge. > It was working correctly about a week ago before I did an upgrade > dist-upgrade. Does anyone know if this is a bug. > > Thank > > Gary Yes it is a bug. http://

Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-05 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 01:38:46PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Kevin Mark dijo [Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 01:08:49AM -0500]: > > Hi Folks, > > I have updated my diagram on the debian developement model. Any comments > > appreciated! > > Very nice! I expect to use it at some conferences (BTW: Looks lik

Problem compiling (gcc? glibc?)

2005-01-05 Thread Andrew Walbran
Hi I have recently started using Debian GNU / Linux, and have found that I am unable to compile anything with GCC. Compiling even a trivial program gives a number of 'undefined reference' errors: $ cat test.c int main() { return 0; } $ gcc test.c /lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to [EMAIL P

Re: free vs commercial

2005-01-05 Thread David Jardine
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 07:52:29PM -0800, ken keanon wrote: > >[...] > > Ron Johnson and Ken West touched on an important > point. Whether h/w manufacturers and s/w developers > will come out with Linux-compatible product is a > business decision. One factor to consider would be the > market siz

Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-05 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 01:56:13AM +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote: > Hi Kevin! > > * Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050103 07:08]: > > > I have updated my diagram on the debian developement model. Any comments > > appreciated! > > What is the target group of your diagramm? Hi Alexander, I wan

Re: Synaptic toolbar missing icons and text

2005-01-05 Thread William Ballard
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 08:30:08PM -0800, Gary Garibaldi wrote: > I seem to have lost the toolbar and it's icons to synaptic under sarge. > It was working correctly about a week ago before I did an upgrade > dist-upgrade. Does anyone know if this is a bug. You find the answer to this by looking

Synaptic toolbar missing icons and text

2005-01-05 Thread Gary Garibaldi
I seem to have lost the toolbar and it's icons to synaptic under sarge. It was working correctly about a week ago before I did an upgrade dist-upgrade. Does anyone know if this is a bug. Thank Gary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [

Re: install USB optical mouse

2005-01-05 Thread Matt Egger
I hate to ask...but have you just tried plugging it in? I just got an optical mouse for use with my sarge laptop, and it "just worked" when I plugged it in. -Matt On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:55:54 +0800, jianan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm running 'sarge',kernel-2.6.8, kde-3.2.2. > > I need to i

install USB optical mouse

2005-01-05 Thread jianan
I'm running 'sarge',kernel-2.6.8, kde-3.2.2. I need to install a USB optical mouse. 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' has no selection for such mouse. How to proceed? Jianan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: free vs commercial

2005-01-05 Thread ken keanon
Hi, I'll reply in a one-to-many style. Jerome Benoit wrote: A very good idea is to get a computer box totally supported by the Linux community. And do not forget that Debian does not run only on PC (as WinXP). Where to get those information e.g. how to know if a particular device is supported?

Re: free vs commercial

2005-01-05 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: Come on, Steve, you should know better. This is Linux, not MacOS. We get the games. Lemme know when ATI support gets to Linux so I can at least play City of Heroes under Cedega. And natively, forget it. There's more to gaming than a few FPS. -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: Re: Displayed Image Quality

2005-01-05 Thread John and Holly Klug
on Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:17:40 -0800, Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >Online vs. printed appearance can vary greatly. Have you >compared printed output? The printed output is just fine. I tested gimp as well. It also diplays the TIFF's poorly at lower zoom levels compared to the convert

raid1 with kernel 2.6.9-2-k7

2005-01-05 Thread Harland Christofferson
I upgraded to 2.6.9-2-k7 on Debian. My raid array does not seem to be working: # cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid1] md0 : inactive unused devices: my raidtab file is: # cat /etc/raidtab raiddev /dev/md0 raid-level 1 nr-raid-disks 2 nr-spare-disks 0

Re: gpg-agent packaged...?

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 11:07 am, Nicos Gollan wrote: > Install the packages gnupg2 and gpgsm, that should get you proper gpg support [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-get install gnupg2 gpgsm Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 08:43 am, Alvin Smith wrote: > No. You need a minimum of a Pentium 233 with 64 MB RAM to have much > success running any GUI + Openoffice, even xfce. And realistically on the user-side, you're looking more at getting a machine that will run KDE with decent perf

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 06:36 am, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: > With this box I am trying to convince my father that linux is an > excellent replacement for windows98se for writing textdocuments and > maybe some scientific documents. Just not going to happen with that machine. Spending a

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 05:54 am, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: > I need some advice. Is debian fit for a Pentium 100MHz PC with 16MB > RAM and approx 4Gb harddisk? Are there anyone who has experience with > such a slow machine running debian (or any other linux dist)? It'll happen. But be

Re: sarge dist-upgrade today, no more keyboard

2005-01-05 Thread John A Chaves
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 07:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just now checked and I don't have the file "Xservers.dpkg-old" in that > directory. > Are you sure that's where it is? I don't have any way to search for it > without a keyboard. I think that you only get the .dpkg-old file if y

Re: free vs commercial

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 10:35 am, Steve Lamb wrote: > (1) ok, two. Games. But it looks like we were talking productivity > here. ;) Umm, what are you talking about? I play games all the time. America's Army, Vice City, Unreal Tournament (the original and 2004), and many, many more t

Re: free vs commercial

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 05:04 am, ken keanon wrote: > Starting with the maxim "To beat MS you have to be as good as, if not > better than, MS", I am constantly comparing the Linux I had installed > with WinXP. Well, we're already better than MS, it's just a matter of time now. > With

Re: Where is the PATH set?

2005-01-05 Thread Paul E Condon
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 05:57:13PM -0600, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > On a standard install woody system, in particular. > > Particularly, where does it get set on console login, and where does > it get set for an ssh session? And where does it get set for an > xterm? And where does it get set fo

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread James Vahn
Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 06:44 -0800, James Vahn wrote: >> I held the top slot in the BogoMIPS-HOWTO for slowest system for many years- >> a 386SX/16 w/8 megs of RAM. Used a pair of them (and Hercules MDA) to get >> Netscape on the internet (orange hi-res screen). One ran X, the o

Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 07:53 pm, Kevin Mark wrote: > Hi Paul, > have you thought of trying the DDR games in debian? > apt-cache search dance > Just curious... I just don't have a dance pad for my PC... -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ursine.dyndns.org/~baloo/ pgpU44OvD5aGW.pgp D

Re: [OT] Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 11:16 am, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Why do so many people persist in moving to deserts? It seems > > really silly. > > Better than California. 'sides, when you Oregonians decide to stop > huggin' trees to actually have a job market worth speaking a

Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 01:11 pm, Stefano Picchiotti wrote: > I suspect this conversation is more than OT here... I know I have > no right to ask you to suspend it, so let me hope your politeness > will suggest you to stop. Why not just hit "Ignore thread" in your mail reader? That seems a

Colorized ls problem

2005-01-05 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
The default setup seems to alias ls to ls --color. When this is run in an emacs shell window (on a character cell terminal in my test; though I think it does the same thing under X), the output comes out colorized -- even though the terminal type is set to DUMB there, and DUMB isn't on the list of

Re: sarge dist-upgrade today, no more keyboard

2005-01-05 Thread mailmanmike
- Original Message - From: "John A Chaves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:44 PM Subject: Re: sarge dist-upgrade today, no more keyboard On Wednesday 05 January 2005 01:12 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this has been covered, search function gets no res

Re: Re: package version problem

2005-01-05 Thread jianan
Hi, Forgot to mention it, but I had done an update before install. I'm using 'testing'. The download site for 'knemo' is www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/debian/sarge. Jianan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: wget times out - but ftp works OK

2005-01-05 Thread Robert Vangel
Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 14:30 +0100, Wim De Smet wrote: On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:27:51 +0100, Karsten Bolding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> [...] ==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD /pub/hans.burchard ... done. ==> PASV ... and then hangs. If I do a normal anonymous ftp I can download the

Install sarge in raid with windows

2005-01-05 Thread antleb
Hello, I am trying to install sarge in a raid 0 configuration (2 sata disks in a sil3114 controler). The sarge installation tolls has recognized all of my hardware, including the sil3114 controler. The problem is that in the two disks there are already 3 ntfs partitions and the dm or lnm tools c

Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-05 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi Kevin! * Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050103 07:08]: > I have updated my diagram on the debian developement model. Any comments > appreciated! What is the target group of your diagramm? Since I don't think people without deeper knowledge of Debian will find your diagram easy to understan

Re: sarge: netinstall and ppoe

2005-01-05 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Thank you very much for the advices Andreas. With the best regards Marcelo -- Marcelo Chiapparini [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 05.01.05. 21:07, Andreas Janssen wrote: Hello Marcelo Chiapparini (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I want to install sarge in a new system. So I have two questions: > a) Can I use a

Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread David Jardine
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 05:10:22PM -0600, ABrady wrote: > On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:11:39 +0100 > Stefano Picchiotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi everybody. > > > > I suspect this conversation is more than OT here... I know I have > > no right to ask you to suspend it, so let me hop

Re: kernel 2.6.9.2-k7 and ne2k-pci

2005-01-05 Thread Harland Christofferson
At Wednesday, 5 January 2005, Andrea Vettorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: >On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:14:44 -0500, Harland Christofferson ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> i have upgraded to 2.6.9.2-k7. I find i have to: >> >> $> modprobe ne2k-pci >> >> then >> >> $> ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.194 u

Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread Steve Lamb
ABrady wrote: It won't help. I tried it and a few sanctimonious assholes decided they're moderators and will do as they damned well please. As opposed to you who thinks you're a moderator? Lemme put it this way; why do you think those of us who do go off on tangents from time to time haven't

Where is the PATH set?

2005-01-05 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On a standard install woody system, in particular. Particularly, where does it get set on console login, and where does it get set for an ssh session? And where does it get set for an xterm? And where does it get set for an Emacs shell window? I'd prefer these to be the same, but And then,

Re: gpg-agent packaged...?

2005-01-05 Thread Brad Sims
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 1:07 pm, Nicos Gollan wrote: > If you want proper support, use this package source in sour sources.list: > deb http://smurf.noris.de/code/debian/ experimental smurf > > Install the packages gnupg2 and gpgsm, that should get you proper gpg support > (and supposedly S/M

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Vegard Lundby Rekaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005 Jan 05 16:50 -0600]: > For the window-manager I had xfce in > mind, which is as I have understood, the easiest to lern of the small > wm's. Disclaimer, I've barely used XFCE and then only from a Morphix CD. My first impression was that XFCE would be

Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread ABrady
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:11:39 +0100 Stefano Picchiotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi everybody. > > I suspect this conversation is more than OT here... I know I have > no right to ask you to suspend it, so let me hope your politeness > will suggest you to stop. It won't help. I tried it

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Vegard Lundby Rekaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005 Jan 05 16:49 -0600]: > I need some advice. Is debian fit for a Pentium 100MHz PC with 16MB RAM > and approx 4Gb harddisk? Are there anyone who has experience with such a > slow machine running debian (or any other linux dist)? I recently upgraded my

Re: sarge: netinstall and ppoe

2005-01-05 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Marcelo Chiapparini (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I want to install sarge in a new system. So I have two questions: > a) Can I use a minimal bootable CD over a PPOE connection? I am asking > because the information in the Debian web only mentions PPP: "The > network install assumes that yo

Re: debian-user and mail tools

2005-01-05 Thread Nate Duehr
Bob Alexander wrote: A last item I do not like about TB is that using IMAP, my emails are on the server, and in TB when I delete an item it gets into the server's Trash folders and emptying it therefore takes a while. Tell TB not to store Trash on the server. It's configurable. Nate -- To UNSUBS

Re: debootstrapping via knoppix, and what next?

2005-01-05 Thread Pau Capdevila
You can save the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives from install to install in order to not having to redownload the DEBs. Debootsrap is far more complex than a simple knoppix hard-disk-install. You've been told. On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 23:57:28 +0100, Pau Capdevila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wasn'

Re: debootstrapping via knoppix, and what next?

2005-01-05 Thread Pau Capdevila
Wasn't he asking for debootstrap? http://www.inittab.de/manuals/debootstrap.html [Debian GNU/Linux Installation with Knoppix and debootstrap] With debootstrap you can install woody, sarge and even sid. I've installed all of them with any problem. But first I recomend a livecd hard disk install

sarge: netinstall and ppoe

2005-01-05 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hello! I want to install sarge in a new system. So I have two questions: a) Can I use a minimal bootable CD over a PPOE connection? I am asking because the information in the Debian web only mentions PPP: "The network install assumes that you have a connection to the Internet either using analo

Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 22:53 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 04:01:03PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: --snip-- > > Not so much Korean as Mexican and Chinese here, though out in Beaverton > > there's a *really* good Japanese video arcade that generally gets the > > new DDR machines

Re: downloading packages

2005-01-05 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 16:11 +, pickett wrote: > Hi. I'm trying to use "apt-get install" to fetch Latex from your stable > packages list. However, every time I try to fetch the "tetex-base" > library I get an error. All other components download ok, so I think the > problem is at your end. Can y

Re: gpg-agent packaged...?

2005-01-05 Thread Tom
[Wed 05 Jan 2005 20:32] Ralph Katz (Re: gpg-agent packaged...?): > Will gpa help? apt-cache show gpa Uhm, doesn't seem to, no... It's much like kgpg, a slightly more featured equivalent program I think. I'm not really looking for something to help me manage my keys, I just don't feel like typi

Re: Kernel installation woes on Athlon 1100: "hda: lost interrupt".

2005-01-05 Thread Adam Funk
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 20:40, Joe wrote: >>The motherboard is an ASRock K7S8X. (I don't know what chips are on >>it.) > I didn't see the beginning of this. I have one of these and I've yet > to see any Linux boot without noapic. Including Knoppix, and Woody on > 2.4.18, and the current Sarge

RE: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread Stefano Picchiotti
Hi everybody. I suspect this conversation is more than OT here... I know I have no right to ask you to suspend it, so let me hope your politeness will suggest you to stop. Bye, Stefano -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database:

Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 20:07 +, Dave Ewart wrote: > On Wednesday, 05.01.2005 at 11:22 -0500, Brendan wrote: > > > On Tuesday 04 January 2005 11:56, Dave Ewart wrote: [snip] > > The poster generalized about 300 million people. I wouldn't like to > generalize about anyone I don't know. There a

Re: free vs commercial

2005-01-05 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: After you are added to a group, you must log out for the kernel to "see" the change. That did it. Thanks, Ron. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---

Re: [OT] Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 11:16 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Why do so many people persist in moving to deserts? It seems > > really silly. > > Better than California. 'sides, when you Oregonians decide to stop > huggin' trees to actually have a job market worth speaking

Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 11:22 -0500, Brendan wrote: > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 00:22, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 16:01 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Monday 03 January 2005 08:43 pm, Seeker5528 wrote: > > > > There are the Indian Tribes with the related occasional political

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 12:16 -0500, donald szatkowski wrote: > I am running Debian v 2.4.27-1-386/gcc 3.3.4 and Debian 1:3.3.4-9 > (testing) on an OLD Gateway 100 mhz with 128 mb ram. Command line > operation is great, gui is less than desireable, in fact unusable due to > time lags. This is stil

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 16:51 +, Sue Spence wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 15:53 +, Sue Spence wrote: > > > >>Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: > >> > On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 14:54 +0100, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > >>hence an easier sell. Supporting

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 13:17 -0300, Norberto Altalef wrote: > >> > On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 14:54 +0100, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: [snip] > > 16 MB is not enough for Open Office . Forget your idea, your father is > going to believe that Win98 is better than linux :) > Some time ago, I was testing se

Re: free vs commercial

2005-01-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 12:19 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Rob Bochan wrote: > > Are you a member of the 'scanner' group? > > Nope. Added myself to it. Still no joy. Nothing in the /dev tree > appears to be chgrped to scanner. :( After you are added to a group, you must log out for the kern

Re: free vs commercial

2005-01-05 Thread Steve Lamb
Rob Bochan wrote: Are you a member of the 'scanner' group? Nope. Added myself to it. Still no joy. Nothing in the /dev tree appears to be chgrped to scanner. :( -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection

Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread William Ballard
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 08:07:04PM +, Dave Ewart wrote: > [1] I'm not saying the original poster was arrogant, but this topic has > drifted somewhat. Maybe we should stop now :-) People who are annoyed by the US annoy me. When you go to their countries you hear a lot of "hip-hop" on the rad

Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread Steve Lamb
Dave Ewart wrote: Not at all. US makes up approximately 5% of the world's population. The arrogance of some in the US [1] who believe that only the US is important, or that "US == The World", annoys me. [ Snip ] The poster generalized about 300 million people. I wouldn't like to generalize about

Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread Dave Ewart
On Wednesday, 05.01.2005 at 11:22 -0500, Brendan wrote: > On Tuesday 04 January 2005 11:56, Dave Ewart wrote: > > So he knows what 300 million USA residents think? And yet nothing > > of the remainder of the world's population? Doubtful. > > Of course. Didn't you know that we all think alike? D

Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-05 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Kevin Mark dijo [Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 01:08:49AM -0500]: > Hi Folks, > I have updated my diagram on the debian developement model. Any comments > appreciated! Very nice! I expect to use it at some conferences (BTW: Looks like a nice addition to Debian Eyecatcher[1], I'll add it :) ) I'd suggest

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread Vegard Lundby Rekaa
> 16 MB is not enough for Open Office . Forget your idea, your father is > going to believe that Win98 is better than linux :) > Some time ago, I was testing several slow machines in order to replace > some Windows 98 boxes. > Running Win98, Office97 and IE 5 with 16 MB RAM the machine is very ver

Re: free vs commercial

2005-01-05 Thread Rob Bochan
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 01:40 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: > > What device does it show up on? I'm trying to get my LiDE20 (or is it > a 30?) working on my normal user. Works on root but the permissions are > preventing it working on my normal user. I can't figure out which device > it's on.

Re: gpg-agent packaged...?

2005-01-05 Thread Ralph Katz
On 01/05/2005 01:20 PM, Tom wrote: Hey ho, I'm once again trying to force myself to consistently sign my e-mail traffic. I remember KMail offered an option to keep the passphrase in memory during the current session, but that option seems to have vanished in the most recent version in sid. Which

Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 04:01:03PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Monday 03 January 2005 08:43 pm, Seeker5528 wrote: > > > There are the Indian Tribes with the related occasional political > > squabbles over casinos and fishing rights. > > Yup, here in Oregon, the Confederated Tribes of Warm S

Re: debian-user and mail tools

2005-01-05 Thread Ralph Katz
On 01/05/2005 10:50 AM, Bob Alexander wrote: Up to now I have been reading this lists mail with Thunderbird, fetching it via IMAP from my ISP. Thunderbird does a decent (but not wonderful) job of filtering spam. Of course it threads topics and I can label individual emails in different colours.

Re: [OT] Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: Why do so many people persist in moving to deserts? It seems really silly. Better than California. 'sides, when you Oregonians decide to stop huggin' trees to actually have a job market worth speaking and, oh, letting people into your little communte lemme know, 'kay? :

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Re: gpg-agent packaged...?

2005-01-05 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Wednesday January 5 2005 19:13, Tom wrote: > So I kind of wondered -- why is there no packaged solution to this? > Debian boasts thousands of packages, why not gpg-agent, or something > containing it? The most precise thing I could find about it was, that the gnupg2 packages got stuck in the f

Re: free vs commercial

2005-01-05 Thread Steve Lamb
David Fokkema wrote: I forgot: I bought a CanoScan Lide30 which I plugged into my laptop. That was the hard part. The easy part was starting up gimp and selecting 'acquire' and clicking on my scanning device. It didn't even need the install cd. Windows users were advised to first install the cd bef

Re: free vs commercial

2005-01-05 Thread Steve Lamb
ken keanon wrote: Starting with the maxim "To beat MS you have to be as good as, if not better than, MS", I am constantly comparing the Linux I had installed with WinXP. [snip] What I find wanting in Linux is Device Management. With plug-in, adding new devices to WinXP is a breeze but not in Linux

gpg-agent packaged...?

2005-01-05 Thread Tom
Hey ho, I'm once again trying to force myself to consistently sign my e-mail traffic. I remember KMail offered an option to keep the passphrase in memory during the current session, but that option seems to have vanished in the most recent version in sid. Which is quite annoying; my pass phras

weird time problem

2005-01-05 Thread Rodney Richison
Bran new machine. I'll try to describe the problem with the time. The logs are not helpfull because I cannot determine what happens first, the time going back to 1901 or 1938 (it differs) Or Courier imap screaming the .Maildir doesn't exit (which it clearly does) or it doesn't have permission. I

Re: acidlab/php problem

2005-01-05 Thread Kenneth Jacker
jbouse> I don't recall having yet seen a BTS entry from you so don't jbouse> have any further info to help from. Thanks to Jeremy's comment above, I have succeeded in getting 'acidlab' to work correctly on sarge/testing! First I checked out: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg

Re: Clarification concerning security of testing on a laptop

2005-01-05 Thread Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)
Hello. rich: > What I don't understand is why it is so horrendously insecure to run > testing - as I understand it when a vulnerability is found, a new > version of the program is normally released which fixes the problem. AFAIK, the catch is that the Debian Security Team is maintaining stable -

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread donald szatkowski
Forget my prior, for you and the command line - Okay For you father, and gui - Forget it, too slow. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread donald szatkowski
I am running Debian v 2.4.27-1-386/gcc 3.3.4 and Debian 1:3.3.4-9 (testing) on an OLD Gateway 100 mhz with 128 mb ram. Command line operation is great, gui is less than desireable, in fact unusable due to time lags. This is still a very usable box! Go for it! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread Sue Spence
Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 15:53 +, Sue Spence wrote: Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 14:54 +0100, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: [snip] hence an easier sell. Supporting really old kit is IMO a royal time-wasting pain at the best of times. I know some people enjoy i

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread Alvin Smith
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 09:36 am, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 14:54 +0100, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: > >> I need some advice. Is debian fit for a Pentium 100MHz PC with 16MB RAM > >> and approx 4Gb harddisk? Are there anyone who has experience with such a > >> slow ma

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread Norberto Altalef
>> > On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 14:54 +0100, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: >> >> I need some advice. Is debian fit for a Pentium 100MHz PC with 16MB >> RAM >> >> and approx 4Gb harddisk? Are there anyone who has experience with >> such a >> >> slow machine running debian (or any other linux dist)? >> > >>

Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread Brendan
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 00:22, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 16:01 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Monday 03 January 2005 08:43 pm, Seeker5528 wrote: > > > There are the Indian Tribes with the related occasional political > > > squabbles over casinos and fishing rights. > > > >

Re: names good for marketing

2005-01-05 Thread Brendan
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 11:56, Dave Ewart wrote: > So he knows what 300 million USA residents think? And yet nothing of > the remainder of the world's population? Doubtful. Of course. Didn't you know that we all think alike? Duh! > His original comment read "In a country of 300M people, ther

Re: creating .debs?

2005-01-05 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 14:19:48 +0100 Eric Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I've been looking around after a package tool like deb or rpm, but > havent yet decided which one to use. I have a range of servers with > redhat/fedora and a bunch with debian. The plan is to migrate over to

Re: creating .debs?

2005-01-05 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Wednesday 05 Jan 2005 13:19, Eric Persson wrote: > Hi, > > I've been looking around after a package tool like deb or rpm, but > havent yet decided which one to use. I have a range of servers with > redhat/fedora and a bunch with debian. The plan is to migrate over to > debian within 2 years, so

Re: creating .debs?

2005-01-05 Thread Rainer Hoeckmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 5. Januar 2005 17:05 schrieb Rainer Hoeckmann: Sorry, that was a link to the German version, here in English: http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals.html#maint-guide - -- GnuPG-Key: F7B7 7C52 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Gnu

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread Kent West
Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 14:54 +0100, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: I need some advice. Is debian fit for a Pentium 100MHz PC with 16MB RAM and approx 4Gb harddisk? Are there anyone who has experience with such a slow machine running debian (or any other linux dist)?

Re: creating .debs?

2005-01-05 Thread Rakotomandimby (R12y) Mihamina
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 17:05 +0100, Rainer Hoeckmann wrote: > Have a look at: > http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals.de.html#maint-guide It's the German one! Here is a better one (he can choose the langage) : http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals.html#maint-guide -- ASPO Infogérance ht

Re: Ugly sarge upgrade -- kernel 2.4.27-2 > 2.4.27-6

2005-01-05 Thread Jason Rennie
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 03:27:57PM -0500, Michael Murphy wrote: > Any one else? Googling's born no fruit. I'm brand new to debian (a > recent redhat emigree) and am unsure where, or whether, to report > this. Any insight or direction members of this list can share will > be gratefully received.

Re: creating .debs?

2005-01-05 Thread Rainer Hoeckmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 5. Januar 2005 14:19 schrieb Eric Persson: > But where can I read about how to package stuff in .deb format? And is > it possible to use those on redhat/fedora machines? Have a look at: http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals.de.html#ma

Re: Debian on an old PC

2005-01-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 15:53 +, Sue Spence wrote: > Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: > >>On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 14:54 +0100, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: [snip] > hence an easier sell. Supporting really old kit is IMO a royal > time-wasting pain at the best of times. I know some people enjoy it, but >

Re: free vs commercial

2005-01-05 Thread Kent West
ken keanon wrote: Starting with the maxim "To beat MS you have to be as good as, if not better than, MS", I am constantly comparing the Linux I had installed with WinXP. With Konqueror, the Window Management, File Management, Web Browsing is on par with WinXP. What I find wanting in Linux is Devi

no ipchains with 2.2/no network with 2.4

2005-01-05 Thread Pierre A. Damas
Hello, I posted this also in firewall, but I think it can be installation related, so I post it also in the plain user list. Sorry for this cross posting, but I don't know yet the frequentation of both lists and where the problem really belongs... I am fairly new to debian and firewalls, altho

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