Re: apache 1.3.28-4 on unstable

2003-10-24 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Friday 24 October 2003 9:55 pm, W. Paul Mills wrote: >On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:45:46 +, chbaker wrote: >> Ever since upgrading to apache 1.3.28-4 on unstable some strange things >> have happened. Index pages, whether html, shtml, or cgi are no longer >> working unless the page is explicitly li

Re: kdeartwork kdeartwork-theme-desktop kdebase kdeprint kept back

2003-10-24 Thread Mihalis I. Tsoukalos
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 08:44:55AM +0300, Mihalis I. Tsoukalos wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 02:19:00AM +0100, Nick Boyce wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:47:09 +0300, Mihalis I. Tsoukalos wrote: > > > > >why do I get the following message: > > > > > >racoon:~# apt-get upgrade > > >Reading Pac

Re: remote backup from Windows PCs

2003-10-24 Thread Lou Losee
* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-24 23:22]: > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 19:40, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 06:41:48PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > > So I'd prefer that backups are initiated on the remote PCs, and

Arpd Problem

2003-10-24 Thread Iassen Anadoliev
Hello to everybody I am trying to get arpd working. Without success. I recompiled my kernel with netlink and arpd daemon support and installed arpd. But when i try to start arpd... Oct 25 07:38:56 router arpd[17090]: Initializing, version 1.0.2 Oct 25 07:38:56 router arpd[17090]: cannot open /dev

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage - privacy

2003-10-24 Thread Alvin Oga
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I asked Earthlink to check for virii [oh the flames] and they said it > would be an invasion of my privacy but spam they can check. I'm looking at > your latter option! sounds like they were planning to manually check your mails for virii vs an au

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage - other

2003-10-24 Thread Alvin Oga
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Only if you have a pop3 account, in which case you can preconnect mailfilter > > before fetchmail to remove most of this stuff from the server before > > collecting your mail. > > > > see various .mailfilterrc files post in the last few weeks. Some >

Linksys PCMCIA WPC11 version 4

2003-10-24 Thread Frederick B. Henry, Jr.
Aloha, It seemed, when I was researching a wireless pc card, that this Linksys WPC11 was all game with linux. It still seems to be, except that it is "version 4", and I can't get it to work. This despite my best efforts with the Realtek 8180l driver, and following the WPC11 + Debian HOWTO that

Re: Bug#217452: mailfilter: installing under Debian

2003-10-24 Thread Travis Crump
Marc Wilson wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:08:05PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: Under a typical Debian setup, you want to trigger mailfilter before every run of fetchmail. True enough. Or rather, you want to run mailfilter before whatever mail-getter you use runs. Since fetchmail ordinarily ru

Re: emacs: adding default minor modes?

2003-10-24 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 08:30:57PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > What's the easiest way for a non-LISPer to add ispell-minor-mode to be > one of the default minor modes in emacs? I assume that you are referring to flyspell mode which is the mode where spelling mistakes are highlighted in red as you

Re: A newbies confusion about GPL(BS)

2003-10-24 Thread David Palmer.
I understand exactly what you are saying, Arnt. I have always believed in giving social law the first opportunity, without this we have chaos. Unfortunately, in a war situation, we are no longer in an environment where the normal standards apply. Oh yes the geneva convention standards apply, and s

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-24 Thread John Yurcik
Thanks for all the suggestions, maybe with the exception of sticking my head in the sand, I don't receive a mere dozen of this...crap, its at least 40 sometimes double that. It's a real problem, and if I'm going to spend that much time on the computer I want to be doing something better than managi

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-24 Thread kmark+debian
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 11:26:06PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I asked Earthlink to check for virii [oh the flames] and they said it > > would be an invasion of my privacy but spam they can che

Re: mplayer codecs

2003-10-24 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 05:20:58AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > I installed mplayer from binary (the debs from marillat.free.fr). I was > wondering if it is possible to install new codecs without recompiling > the binary. Yes. > Namely, I'm intereste

mplayer codecs

2003-10-24 Thread Micha Feigin
I installed mplayer from binary (the debs from marillat.free.fr). I was wondering if it is possible to install new codecs without recompiling the binary. Namely, I'm interested in installing the realplayer codecs at the moment. -- Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAI

emacs: adding default minor modes?

2003-10-24 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What's the easiest way for a non-LISPer to add ispell-minor-mode to be one of the default minor modes in emacs? - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better th

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-24 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 11:26:06PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I asked Earthlink to check for virii [oh the flames] and they said it > would be an invasion of my privacy but spam they can check. I'm looking at > your latter option! That's really

Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 19:46, Tom wrote: > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:23:13AM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > > Of course I know it's a fork. It's my paramater and I know what I'm > > passing. I wouldn't have called it "fork" otherwise. > > For the purpose of the discussion, I'll grant you the poi

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-24 Thread kmark+debian
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 07:39:11AM -0700, John Yurcik wrote: > > Is there something I can do to block this stuff with an on-line mail > > account? > > Demand they reject viruses at SMTP time or take yo

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

2003-10-24 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 06:41:23PM -0400, Thomas Pomber wrote: > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 10:38:33PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ... After Iraq and Palestine > > > etc is freed, and your traitors and war criminals has been hanged, > > > there may be a new _via

Re: Mailfilter+Mutt Problem

2003-10-24 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 01:32:17PM -0700, Lonnie Sutton wrote: > Hi Pigeon, > > First, let me add my thanks for your putting up your .mailfilterrc to > give me a great start on that file and dealing with the blizzard of spam > that comes from posting to the d-u list these days. Thanks! > I insta

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-24 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:14:38AM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > It is beyond my capability (but only slightly, I feel, and it > should be very easy for lots of people here) to produce a sort of > interactive fetchmail that reads the headers of each message on > the server, presents them to you

Re: Gender in language (was Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: ])

2003-10-24 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:05:14PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:52:10AM +0100, Pigeon insinuated: > > Also, what do the advocates of "gender-neutral" language do in > > German? And what do they do in French? > > what do you mean by advocates of gender-neutral languages?

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

2003-10-24 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 10:38:33PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:18:03 -0700, > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 07:50:58PM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 11:38:18AM -0400, Bijan Soleyma

Re: classic deficiancy in both windows and linux ?

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 18:51, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 07:34:43PM -0400, Travis Crump wrote: > > Not to mention the fact that I'd love to see a good definition of what > > is 'normally' installed on a Linux machine. > > Ohh,

Re: apache 1.3.28-4 on unstable

2003-10-24 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Friday 24 October 2003 9:55 pm, W. Paul Mills wrote: >On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:45:46 +, chbaker wrote: >> Ever since upgrading to apache 1.3.28-4 on unstable some strange things >> have happened. Index pages, whether html, shtml, or cgi are no longer >> working unless the page is explicitly li

Re: remote backup from Windows PCs

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 19:40, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 06:41:48PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > So I'd prefer that backups are initiated on the remote PCs, and that > > > even the file set to backup was controlled on the r

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 18:54, Clive Menzies wrote: > On (25/10/03 01:14), David Jardine wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:55:20PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > on Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 07:39:11AM -0700, John Yurcik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [snip] > > I've read the fetchmail documentation

apt-get query

2003-10-24 Thread Deryk Barker
Pardon me if I should know this but: I'm a bit puzzled. I recently did a dist-upgrade on my notebook machine (previously running woody with the backported KDE3.1) in order to get openoffice 1.1. Everything went smoothly. I copied the sources.list from my office machine which for some months has bee

Re: stairstep printing on an HP Deskjet

2003-10-24 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 04:28:41PM +1000, Robert William Hutton wrote: > Corey Hickey wrote: > > >Currently, if I try to print a text file by using: > >$ lpr text.txt > >I get a stairstep effect > > This is due to the difference between Unix text format and the DOS text > format. Unix uses LF (l

Re: indent for html?

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 18:41, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 23:22 GMT, Ron Johnson penned: > > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 16:46, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > >> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 21:37 GMT, Ron Johnson penned: > >> > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 15:11, Clive Menzies wrote: > >> >> On (24/

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

2003-10-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:09:30 -0700, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 10:38:33PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ... After Iraq and Palestine > > etc is freed, and your traitors and war criminals has been hanged, > > there may be a new _viabl

Re: Bug#217452: mailfilter: installing under Debian

2003-10-24 Thread Marc Wilson
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:08:05PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > Under a typical Debian setup, you want to trigger mailfilter before > every run of fetchmail. True enough. Or rather, you want to run mailfilter before whatever mail-getter you use runs. > Since fetchmail ordinarily runs as user fetc

Re: What is Nice memory?

2003-10-24 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 03:07, Ralph Alvy wrote: > I'm running xmcpustate and notice that, besides CPU usage, it shows how much > memory is being used, dividing it up into 4 categories of usage: User, > Kernel, NIce, and System. What's *Nice* in this regard? I don't know whats nice in this regard, b

Re: apache 1.3.28-4 on unstable

2003-10-24 Thread W. Paul Mills
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:45:46 +, chbaker wrote: > Ever since upgrading to apache 1.3.28-4 on unstable some strange things > have happened. Index pages, whether html, shtml, or cgi are no longer > working unless the page is explicitly listed. Example > ``http://servername/'' yeilds a 403 Forbidd

Re: filtering MS* mails w/ Spamassassin

2003-10-24 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 07:30:10AM -0500, Nathan J. Malmberg wrote: > On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 03:24:42AM -0400, ThanhVu Nguyen wrote: > > My SA setting blocks most of the spam mails but it doesn't/can't stop > > these MS mails, no matter how many MS examples I try to feed to it to > > learn. Anyon

What is Nice memory?

2003-10-24 Thread Ralph Alvy
I'm running xmcpustate and notice that, besides CPU usage, it shows how much memory is being used, dividing it up into 4 categories of usage: User, Kernel, NIce, and System. What's *Nice* in this regard? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: remote backup from Windows PCs

2003-10-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 06:41:48PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > So I'd prefer that backups are initiated on the remote PCs, and that > > even the file set to backup was controlled on the remote PCs. All the > > Linux server is doing then is stream

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-24 Thread Brian Potkin
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:14:38AM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > It is beyond my capability (but only slightly, I feel, and it > should be very easy for lots of people here) to produce a sort of > interactive fetchmail that reads the headers of each message on > the server, presents them to you

Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-24 Thread Tom
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:23:13AM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > Of course I know it's a fork. It's my paramater and I know what I'm > passing. I wouldn't have called it "fork" otherwise. For the purpose of the discussion, I'll grant you the point. But, clearly a (normal) fork is either red or

Re: classic deficiancy in both windows and linux ?

2003-10-24 Thread Daniel B.
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > ... > > | - You won't get the same data displayed by the graphical interface > | (which you'd [expect] it to print if it supported printing). > > Maybe, maybe not. What data is this, exactly? Whatever the graphical interface is currently set to display. (That

Re: X Windom System will not start

2003-10-24 Thread Kent West
Hoyt Bailey wrote: - Original Message - From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 15:41 Subject: Re: X Windom System will not start Hoyt Bailey wrote: File: XFree86.0.log (EE) Screen(s) found, but no

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-24 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 07:39:11AM -0700, John Yurcik wrote: > Hi, I am glad to be on this list-even if it seems like > one has to wade through crocodiles to be here. I got a > yahoo e-mail account because I thought that I could > manage this junk that accumulates in my mail. > "Microsoft security

Re: libc6 gcc wrapper

2003-10-24 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 09:56:39AM +0200, GCS wrote: > Hi, > > I have read on debian-user that you could compile libc6 for yourself > with a wrapper around gcc. Can you please send it to me? My problem is > even if I do not change the source package, my compilation is unstable. > So apt-get sourc

Re: [Waaaaaay OT] Grammer

2003-10-24 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 09:55:02AM -0400, Daniel B. wrote: > "Karsten M. Self" wrote: > > > > on Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 06:59:35PM +0100, Pigeon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 07:15:30AM -0700, Tom wrote: > > > >... > > > > > > > > Octopus is greek. The correct plural is o

Re: indent for html?

2003-10-24 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 23:22 GMT, Ron Johnson penned: > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 16:46, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 21:37 GMT, Ron Johnson penned: >> > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 15:11, Clive Menzies wrote: >> >> On (24/10/03 11:41), Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Anyone k

Re: why is debian the only distribution that won't let me run X?

2003-10-24 Thread Bruno Boettcher
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 04:15:09PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > Why not actually read the prompts given to you by debconf? It's > really hard to screw that up... cause the config file generated by it doesn't work otherwise i wouldn't have tried other config files... -- ciao bboett ==

Re: why is debian the only distribution that won't let me run X?

2003-10-24 Thread Bruno Boettcher
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 04:15:09PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > Why not actually read the prompts given to you by debconf? It's > really hard to screw that up... cause the config file generated by it doesn't work otherwise i wouldn't have tried other config files... -- ciao bboett ==

Re: X Windom System will not start

2003-10-24 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 15:41 Subject: Re: X Windom System will not start > Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > >File: XFree86.0.log > > > > > > > >(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable co

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-24 Thread Clive Menzies
On (25/10/03 01:14), David Jardine wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:55:20PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 07:39:11AM -0700, John Yurcik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > > Hi, I am glad to be on this list-even if it seems like one has to wade > > > through crocodile

Re: classic deficiancy in both windows and linux ?

2003-10-24 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 07:34:43PM -0400, Travis Crump wrote: > Not to mention the fact that I'd love to see a good definition of what > is 'normally' installed on a Linux machine. Ohh, ooh! I got it! The kernel. Everything after that comes sepera

Re: Which kernel-image for Dual-XEON?

2003-10-24 Thread Greg Madden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 24 October 2003 09:32 am, W. Borgert wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using kernel-image-2.4.22-1-686-smp for such a machine > (incl. an init RD for raid1 and reiserfs). But how can I > enable HT there? [Note: I need a Debian "stock" kernel, not > a ho

midentd: problems & questions

2003-10-24 Thread Monique Y. Herman
So I go to update stuff on my unstable system today, using aptitude, and I see that midentd has an update. I find this odd because I don't remember ever installing it, but okay ... there's a lot of stuff I don't remember installing. Go. I get the following: Errors were encountered while processi

Re: [OT] MS netmeeting doesn't recieve sound from gnomemeeting

2003-10-24 Thread Mark Roach
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 16:51, Micha Feigin wrote: > I am not sure if it is actually gnomemeetings fault but I tried to > create a direct connection on my home lan between MS netmeeting on win2K > and gnomemeeting on linux. > I can recieve sound sent from win -> linux but trying to send linux -> > wi

Re: ide-scsi problem on woody - cdrw vs disk

2003-10-24 Thread Alvin Oga
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, [loonyx | rolf joho] wrote: > > In this case, ide-cd won't probe any drives on /dev/hdc > > > > whyle trying this, i could no longer mount the drive as hdc (of course), > but the ide-scsi stuff did not work either. you have to boot the right kernel .. - if lilo

Re: classic deficiancy in both windows and linux ?

2003-10-24 Thread Travis Crump
Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 11:11:59AM -0400, James D. Freels wrote: Does this not require installing some additional software other than what normally is installed with WindowsXP, Linux w/KDE, or Linux w/Gnome ? Why does it matter? If you can get it done, why moan? Not to ment

Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-24 Thread David Jardine
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 03:32:08PM -0700, Tom wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 11:50:40PM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:21:45PM -0700, Tom wrote: > > > I would say isRed(fork) contains an implied [it] and [a]: > > > > > > [it] | is | fork > > > -||

Re: indent for html?

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 16:46, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 21:37 GMT, Ron Johnson penned: > > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 15:11, Clive Menzies wrote: > >> On (24/10/03 11:41), Monique Y. Herman wrote: > >> > > >> > Anyone know of an indent program for html? > >> > > >> > I'd accept

Re: mail router and server for adsl gateway

2003-10-24 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 04:51:54PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > I set up a computer to work as a firewall/router for connecting my local > network to an adsl connection. > I am trying to set up exim to work as a mail router on that machine. i.e > I wan

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-24 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 07:39:11AM -0700, John Yurcik wrote: > Is there something I can do to block this stuff with an on-line mail > account? Demand they reject viruses at SMTP time or take your business elsewhere. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EM

Re: why is debian the only distribution that won't let me run X?

2003-10-24 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:18:59AM +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > i still try to install debian (usntable) on the laptop, and discover > discovers nothing, and even the XF86 config files saved from thos > other distributions that worked perfectl

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-24 Thread David Jardine
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:55:20PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 07:39:11AM -0700, John Yurcik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Hi, I am glad to be on this list-even if it seems like one has to wade > > through crocodiles to be here. I got a yahoo e-mail account because I

Re: classic deficiancy in both windows and linux ?

2003-10-24 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please quote interspersed. http://learn.to/quote/ On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 11:11:59AM -0400, James D. Freels wrote: > Does this not require installing some additional software other than > what normally is installed with WindowsXP, Linux w/KDE, or Lin

Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 17:15, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 22:02 GMT, Ron Johnson penned: > > > > I didn't learn that exact method, but did learn what I guess you'd > > call "sentence decomposition". It fundamental to being able to > > comprehend complex sentences. > > > > I

Re: classic deficiancy in both windows and linux ?

2003-10-24 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 09:54:55AM -0400, Daniel B. wrote: > - You have to open or at least switch to a different window. > - You have to type or copy and paste the directory name. In konqueror, right click away from an icon and select Actions, then O

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2003-10-24 Thread Rodrigo Gonçalves
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Re: How to recover system,

2003-10-24 Thread kmark
On 24 Oct 2003, Matthias Hentges wrote: > Am Fre, 2003-10-24 um 16.24 schrieb Vivek Kumar: > > Hi there, > > D/L a Debian netinst CD (50-100MB) and boot up the new system with it. > The default kernel on the CD should be compiled for 386 so it'll boot up > *any* CPU. Mount the old drives manual

Re: Dell Latitude

2003-10-24 Thread kmark+debian
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I cannot get my modem to work properly, can you help? > > LaBelle > Hi 'Belle, what have you tried? What is the model of your system? what is the result of lspci? what is shown in dmesg? in /var/log/messages? -Kev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

PrepCom3 report SI UN - WSIS - Working Group -

2003-10-24 Thread David Palmer.
This is interesting. It represents everything I have been saying in a number of forums concerning corporate enclosure of the public domain. http://www.wsis-si.org/si-prepcom3-report.html Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: remote backup from Windows PCs

2003-10-24 Thread kmark+debian
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Hi, > > I have a server running Debian with a tape drive and I want to back up > some Windows PCs to it (via LAN). I could use smbmount and regular Linux > backup tools (tar or whatever), but the Windows PCs aren't always on. > > So I'd prefer that back

Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-24 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 22:02 GMT, Ron Johnson penned: > > I didn't learn that exact method, but did learn what I guess you'd > call "sentence decomposition". It fundamental to being able to > comprehend complex sentences. > I don't know about that. Having a mental map of sentences may be funda

Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-24 Thread Tom
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 11:50:40PM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:21:45PM -0700, Tom wrote: > > I would say isRed(fork) contains an implied [it] and [a]: > > > > [it] | is | fork > > -||-- > > || \ \ > > \a \red > > > > fork

user not found .htacess

2003-10-24 Thread Lucio de Aquino Marinho
Hello for all ,, i have a problem with debian unstable , apache , and nagios-text , Everything is ok , but the apache do not authenticate , someone can help-me httpd.conf ScriptAlias /nagios/cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/nagios/ AllowOverride AuthConfig Order all

Re: Using BitchX safely

2003-10-24 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:33:32 -0700, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used to use mIRC a lot, but I knew Windows expertly enough that > things like DCC didn't scare me. I'm scared I'll open a security hole > on my system if I use BitchX and install identd. > > (1) Is BitchX secure by default?

Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-24 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 07:39:11AM -0700, John Yurcik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, I am glad to be on this list-even if it seems like one has to wade > through crocodiles to be here. I got a yahoo e-mail account because I > thought that I could manage this junk that accumulates in my mail. > "

Re: nvidia drivers & kernel headers

2003-10-24 Thread John Yurcik
I am still getting the error message about not being able to load nvidia.o from the nvidia driver installer. I did make depends as was suggested here-it didn't change the error message. In trying to do make menuconfig in /usr/src/kernel-sources... the following is the terminal response: deblnx:/us

Re: indent for html?

2003-10-24 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 21:37 GMT, Ron Johnson penned: > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 15:11, Clive Menzies wrote: >> On (24/10/03 11:41), Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> > >> > Anyone know of an indent program for html? >> > >> > I'd accept a vim script too *grin* >> At the risk of a little knowledge being a

Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 16:21, Tom wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:54:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > > > > > > english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape > > > etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and

Re: Using BitchX safely

2003-10-24 Thread David Palmer.
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:33:32 -0700 Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used to use mIRC a lot, but I knew Windows expertly enough that > things like DCC didn't scare me. I'm scared I'll open a security hole > on my system if I use BitchX and install identd. > > (1) Is BitchX secure by default? >

Re: Debian hardware (HP Proliant), version and backup questions

2003-10-24 Thread Mark Roach
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 08:02, VEGH Karoly wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 06:10:35PM +0200, Nate Aune wrote: > > > 1) Hardware > > Given the previous post about problems with Debian recognizing the disk > > controller on a HP Proliant MC330, I have to ask: can I expect similar > > problems with th

Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 14:37, Tom wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > > english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape > > etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like pieces. german (and > > lot of other languages) is more like putt

Re: Gender in language (was Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: ])

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 14:24, Tom wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 11:43:17AM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > > Pigeon wrote: [snip] > English has a neuter pronoun: "one", but it became associated with > aristocratic speech and is unpopular. If there's one thing I will never > understand, it is New Y

Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-24 Thread David Jardine
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:21:45PM -0700, Tom wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:54:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > > > > > > english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape > > > etc. but it consists mostly o

Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-24 Thread David Jardine
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:59:07PM -0600, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 20:54 GMT, David Jardine penned: > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > >> > >> english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape > >> etc. but it consists mos

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

2003-10-24 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 14:08 Subject: Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS) > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 05:20:22AM -0500, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Tom

Re: indent for html?

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 15:11, Clive Menzies wrote: > On (24/10/03 11:41), Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > > > Anyone know of an indent program for html? > > > > I'd accept a vim script too *grin* > At the risk of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing (I've recently > acquired Vim-improved by Ste

Re: classic deficiancy in both windows and linux ?

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 11:31, Terry Hancock wrote: > On Thursday 23 October 2003 05:08 pm, James D. Freels wrote: > > Can you figure out a way to get a listing of a directory (folder in > > Windows) and print it, without resorting to command prompt ? > > I was about to pooh-pooh this a bit, but in

Re: classic deficiancy in both windows and linux ?

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 11:58, Terry Hancock wrote: > On Friday 24 October 2003 10:43 am, Mental Patient wrote: > it. The one thing > > perl has on python is that there's an imagemagic module for perl. My > > python scripts are doing lots of os.system() calls :) > > Look for "PythonMagick" (caps m

Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-24 Thread Tom
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:54:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > > > > english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape > > etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like pieces. german (and > > lot of other l

Re: indent for html?

2003-10-24 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 18:27 GMT, Kjetil Kjernsmo penned: > On Friday 24 October 2003 19:41, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> Anyone know of an indent program for html? > > Dave Raggett's tidy, perhaps? Does much more than indenting (in fact, > I've never used it for just that... :-) ). It's in Debian.

Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-24 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 20:54 GMT, David Jardine penned: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: >> >> english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape >> etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like pieces. german >> (and lot of other languages)

[OT] MS netmeeting doesn't recieve sound from gnomemeeting

2003-10-24 Thread Micha Feigin
I am not sure if it is actually gnomemeetings fault but I tried to create a direct connection on my home lan between MS netmeeting on win2K and gnomemeeting on linux. I can recieve sound sent from win -> linux but trying to send linux -> win all I get is silence. I also tried ohphone and tried call

Re: indent for html?

2003-10-24 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 20:11 GMT, Clive Menzies penned: > On (24/10/03 11:41), Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> >> Anyone know of an indent program for html? >> >> I'd accept a vim script too *grin* > At the risk of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing (I've > recently acquired Vim-improved by S

apache 1.3.28-4 on unstable

2003-10-24 Thread chbaker
Ever since upgrading to apache 1.3.28-4 on unstable some strange things have happened. Index pages, whether html, shtml, or cgi are no longer working unless the page is explicitly listed. Example ``http://servername/'' yeilds a 403 Forbidden, but ``http://servername/index.html'' works. Also, I can

Re: Does using debconf with X server preclude swapping Control/Caps Lock?

2003-10-24 Thread Daniel Barclay
Brian Nelson wrote: ... No, this question: Template: xserver-xfree86/config/inputdevice/keyboard/options Type: string Description: Please select your keyboard options. For the X server to handle your keyboard as you desire, keyboard options may be entered. Available options depend on which XK

2.6.0-test8 PCI (?) troubles

2003-10-24 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
Hi all! Lately, I have been desparately trying to get a second head with a separate login on my computer, something that has included quite a few approaches. Finally, I've upgraded to sid, and now I'm onto 2.6.0-test8, and not only that, it's patched with the ruby patches. I got the whole thin

Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-24 Thread David Jardine
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > > english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape > etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like pieces. german (and > lot of other languages) is more like putty - you mold things together. > the lego-like

Re: printer icon

2003-10-24 Thread Mark Roach
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 16:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I SIGNED ON TO AOL 9.0 AND LOST MY PRINTER ICON Did you look under the bed? That's where I usually find things when I lose them... -Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [E

Re: X Windom System will not start

2003-10-24 Thread Kent West
Hoyt Bailey wrote: File: XFree86.0.log (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found You need to experiment with your resolution, color depth, and/or video driver. Use "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" to do so. -- Kent -- To UNSU

Using BitchX safely

2003-10-24 Thread Tom
I used to use mIRC a lot, but I knew Windows expertly enough that things like DCC didn't scare me. I'm scared I'll open a security hole on my system if I use BitchX and install identd. (1) Is BitchX secure by default? (2) Is Linux identd secure by default? Does it work behind firewall? (3) Is

Re: classic deficiancy in both windows and linux ?

2003-10-24 Thread Mark Roach
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 18:08, James D. Freels wrote: > Can you figure out a way to get a listing of a directory (folder in > Windows) and print it, without resorting to command prompt ? > > The only way I could find was to save a bit map to the clipboard, then > paste the clipboard contents into an

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