On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:09:30 -0700, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 10:38:33PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ... After Iraq and Palestine > > etc is freed, and your traitors and war criminals has been hanged, > > there may be a new _viable_ chance for peace. > > Without going into left field, and without saying anything negative, > what's your vision of a harmonious world? Use only positive > statements. ..I'll read "positive" as constructive, like boot school chew outs, they make your average 85 IQ GI a better peace maker, the purpose of war _is_ laying a _new_ foundation for Peace, and _someone_ has to do it, and, to get it done _right_, your Gumps _must_believe_ they do the _right_ thing, or, they'll lose like in Vietnam. ..and, they will need to convince the Muslim side too, now, first. ..yeah, this planet _can_ become a paradise for _all_ of mankind, we have everything we need to get there. Most of oil etc is gone long before we gets there, and we need to invest it to get started. I see 15 billion people in 50 years, over the next 1000 years this would ease back to 5 billion, as we begin to explore other planets, and when we find other habitable planets, well, the sky is the limit. ;-) ..we will need to come up with a non-carnivorous economy, capitalism is an excellent tool to win wars and it _can_ be used to share this planets wealth, so we _all_ can enjoy a comfortable nice life, but it must become sustainable. Transportation will be electrified, Cuba and the US will make heavy use of mills in the Gulf Stream, most other places will use solar power and biomass, air commerce will use combustion powerplants, either hydrogen or synthetic hydrocarbons. ..part of the oil must be used to make better use of coal, and co-fire MSW, I see the 15 billion over 300 years peak load being carried by coal and ocean currents like the Gulf stream, there is no need for the Green Fear that goes "There Are Too Many of us, So Someone Has to Do Something About It", just like Saddam, Osama, Jacques, Kim and George _are_ doing. ..we _have_ the technology to put _all_ 15 billions in crazy peel power automobiles, if we want to: http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/bitterly.html http://www.repp.org/discussion/gasification/200201/msg00037.html ..replanting deserts, refilling the Aral Sea and the ground water reservoirs, restoring the 400 years worth of pollution, while cultivating the planet to maximize the sustainable production rather than pillage the Asian and Africans etc, are massive projects that will dwarf WWII, the Cold War Arms Race etc, in scale and in a benign way. ..the hard part is _getting_ there. Now that we're got ourselves in on the wrong side in Sissy Boy George's Crusade Against Islam, instead of wiping out all the war criminals, we have to _convince_ the Muslims we'll try to fix what we fucked up. That means _full_ compliance to the 4 Geneva Conventions, _instead_ of candy and glass pearls "to win their hearts". Islam has similar rules on "physical Jihad", and we _are_ required to heed the strictest combination of these Convention Rules. ..some of you guys code games. I saw Gentoo lose developers on adopting "Americas Army", where Q3 and CS was ok, because of the implied politics. Neither of these games makes use of the 4 Geneva Convention on calulating the game "kill" score. ..making use of the 4 Geneva Conventions on calculating game scores, will make these games even more challenging than the Q3 and CS style ammo spraying I see in lan partys. These games does help prepare gamers for combat in RL military service. Even pasifists play these games, because the challenges involved, is great fun. ..they do not help prevent war crimes, as they are now. These games rather encourage war crimes, as they teach you to "shoot first, then ask and aim and think". ..these games _can_ be used to prepare gamers for RL military service _repressing_ war crimes, _if_ the gamers can score points doing _that_ very bit. ..man _is_ civilized, US Army research mention it took 25000 rounds to kill the 99 Lakota warriors at Wounded Knee, in a Civil War battle, the average dead man had reloaded his muzzle loader without firing it, on average twice, making these frail guns tripleloaded pipe bombs, one such gun got 10 charges before its "owner" was killed. http://www-cgsc.army.mil/milrev/English/MayJun99/Pierson.htm ..more stuff found searching for the above and S. L. A. Marshall's "Men Against Fire: The Problem of Battle Command in Future War". Gloucester, MA: Peter Smith, 1978, c1947. "First published in 1947, this book highlights General Marshall's perception of soldiers in combat based on his own experiences in two world wars and on extensive interviews of combat troops. This book is essential reading for all commanders from platoon to division. Questionable, however, are Marshall's statistics on ratios of fire.": http://www.svaphilosopher.com/files/therapeutic.htm http://www.mayogenuine.com/killing.htm http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6579/ http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/technotactical.htm http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Marshall%22+%22Men+Against+Fire%22+%22kill+ratio%22 http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/22-51/22-51_toc.htm ..these numbers fell way down in Vietnam, where the GI's used far less ammo to kill than the Vietnamese, this was "blamed" on the US mental preparation by watching gun combat on tv shows, the several "school shootings" and the 5 digit losses from gunfire in the US also "helps". ..the prevention of war crime is a powerful weapon to win wars, because to helps the good guys, by proving to everyone, who _are_ the good guys. ..this also makes gallantry a powerful tool in peace making, and I believe we should take the first step, just like the Russians (and Chechens!) did on scrapping the Soviet Union and WWIII. ..another and easier use I made my first stab at 10 years ago, was make use of the 130 or whatever different language translations of the text of the full 4 Geneva Conventions to build a 130 language translation application. ..this put online, can help, and help fund, the game score coding. I chose English as my base language because I know this better than any of the other 4 base languages, French, Spanish, Russian and Chinese. And, I of course lost it all in my big wintendo crash that kicked me over to linux. ..you Tom, can start off by reporting that far out war crime Psysops story to the appropriate law enforcement authority, so it can be checked out. It _may_ have a perfectly legal execution of 200 mercenaries, I dunno, and you have an obligation as an US citizen to help find out. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
