Re: Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread Sean Morgan
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:45:31PM -0400, Daniel Hoffman wrote: > I've got an older Pentium 166 with 16 megs of RAM that I want to put Debian > on. I already tried once, and put KDE on it, but that was very slw and > unresponsive. What's your favorite lightweight (but still fully functional!) >

Re: OT: Plucker with Potato

2001-06-10 Thread John Galt
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Barry Mathieu wrote: >I probably committed a major Debian Faux-Pax by editing my source file >to temporarily point at the testing release to allow me to install >plucker. That is, with testing (rather than stable) in my source file >I, > >apt-get update >apt-get install plucke

Re: KDE on a slow machine (was: Best WM for slow machine?)

2001-06-10 Thread David Nusinow
On Sunday 10 June 2001 08:23 pm, Margarete Hans wrote: > Mmh. My laptop has 20 MB of RAM. I don't think that I'll be using it > very extensively - it is rather a test to decide if I'm going to > install debian on my "main" computer, which by now is also starting to > get old (166 with 32 MB of RAM

Re: KDE on a slow machine (was: Best WM for slow machine?)

2001-06-10 Thread Margarete Hans
Mmh. My laptop has 20 MB of RAM. I don't think that I'll be using it very extensively - it is rather a test to decide if I'm going to install debian on my "main" computer, which by now is also starting to get old (166 with 32 MB of RAM and 3 GB HD - still running windows ( ). Does gnome use as muc

Re: Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread Nuhn Yobiznez
It's confirmed. Blackbox has it over amiwm. Ami is cute (somewhat apple like) and I COULD work w/ it but No window shading, NO MENUS, no configuration utility, etc.I can deal with these but if I'm going to have a window manager, I want the bells and whistles. Blackbox

Re: debian on a 486

2001-06-10 Thread Bruce Sass
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Robert Ruzbacky wrote: > > Hi. I want to put debian on a 486 that I recently got from my school. > . > > > for the boot disk, or find an older debian boot disk and hope it works > > with the machine and still works with the debian installation process. > > You could try us

Re: Help; apt-get kills system, networking broken..

2001-06-10 Thread Gregory Guthrie
At 08:06 PM 06/07/2001 -0700, der.hans wrote: Am 07. Jun, 2001 schwäzte Gregory Guthrie so: > Now, I am stuck, networking doesn't work, so I can't even get my stuff off > of the machine to start over and rebuild. ifconfig eth0 10.1.1.21 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.1.1.255 route add default

KDE on a slow machine (was: Best WM for slow machine?)

2001-06-10 Thread Bruce Sass
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Margarete Hans wrote: > Woops... I was just planning on installing KDE on my old computer > (486, 40kHz CPU). I guess I'll try something else if there are already > problems running it on a 166... The problem is not the 166, it is the 16 (Meg of RAM). I'm running KDE on a 486

Re: Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread David Nusinow
On Sunday 10 June 2001 07:45 pm, Nuhn Yobiznez wrote: > Another I migfht have input on (after a while) is > amiwm(I've dabbled w/ enlightenment, fvwm, and am now > going to try amiwm {due to MY lockup problems and the > recommendation of David Nusinow that lockups in X were > attributed to Win

Re: Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread Nuhn Yobiznez
HI, Another vote for blackbox! After using WindowMaker almost exclusively and the transition is very easy. It's themable. I run it on a P90 w/ 96Mb and a P150 w/ 64Mb. Another I migfht have input on (after a while) is amiwm(I've dabbled w/ enlightenment, fvwm, and am now going to try amiwm

Network Card troubles

2001-06-10 Thread Robert Martinovic
Hey, I am starting to have some serious problems with my network card. It basically works and then it doesn't. I do know that it is a software not hardware problem. * Some info on the card - from /proc/pci: Bus 2, device 12, function 0: Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX [F

Re: Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread Andrei Ivanov
I think afterstep has been omitted from the list. Its very configurable and stable. Here's the top output: 12477 scorpio9 0 1636 1636 1152 S 0 0.0 0.6 0:00 afterstep I've used it as my wm ever since I've had Linux, which started out on a 486-DX4 system with 32M ram. Andrei -

Re: Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread Hall Stevenson
* D-Man ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010610 20:05]: > > I like sawfish (formerly called "sawmill") a lot, and it is > lightweight. There are some things that sawfish won't do, such as > set the background of your display. It doesn't because that is the > desktop's job (GNOME or KDE) and not the window mana

Re: Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread Margarete Hans
Woops... I was just planning on installing KDE on my old computer (486, 40kHz CPU). I guess I'll try something else if there are already problems running it on a 166... > > uwm ('ultimate window manager') is very interesting. not much to look at, > but really really neat and different. > > did i

Re: debian on a 486

2001-06-10 Thread Margarete Hans
I had the same problem with my old laptop. Try booting from the msdos partition (if you still have it). Here is the info on how to do it: http://www.debian.org/releases/2.2/i386/install section 6.3.1 Basically, put loadlin.exe, linux (linux kernel), root.bin on c:\, then reboot, hit F8 as soon as m

Re: Winmodem translator?

2001-06-10 Thread Tom Massey
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:34:24AM +0200, Robert Voigt wrote: > > Not any more. There is now a driver available as source for this particular > > Lucent chipset (if we talk about the same thing) used in some notebook > > modems. It works fine here. > >

Re: debian on a 486

2001-06-10 Thread Robert Ruzbacky
- Original Message - From: "Matt Gerginski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:30 AM Subject: debian on a 486 > Hi. I want to put debian on a 486 that I recently got from my school. . . > > for the boot disk, or find an older debian boot disk and hope it wor

X problem

2001-06-10 Thread Eduardo Gargiulo
Hi all. I have a problem with my X configuration. When I try to start the server from command line with startx, the X server don't work; when I try to start it with xdm, the server starts, I fill the username/password fields but the system don't say nothing and the login script starts again. Both

debian on a 486

2001-06-10 Thread Matt Gerginski
Hi. I want to put debian on a 486 that I recently got from my school. They were giving away "obsolete" computers, so I grabbed 5 of them. I just have one small problem: I can't get any of the rescue.bin disks to boot on the computer. It boots fine in my newer computer, so its not the disk. To

Re: Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread John Galt
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Daniel Hoffman wrote: >I've got an older Pentium 166 with 16 megs of RAM that I want to put Debian >on. I already tried once, and put KDE on it, but that was very slw and >unresponsive. What's your favorite lightweight (but still fully functional!) >window manager? FVWM? E

Re: star office debian-correct installation

2001-06-10 Thread John Galt
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, joe golden wrote: >When I last checked Star Office was not a package in the stable >distribution. waiting is. There have been threats to package OpenOffice for some time now. It won't go into stable for quite a while after that though. >For our small school, which I am abo

Re: login -graphical user interface

2001-06-10 Thread John Galt
apt-get remove xdm gdm kdm On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Peter Whittam wrote: Talk about LAG! :) >Ok, I am new at this so be cool about it. >when I start debian it immediately uses the graphical login, >can I change this option to console login? > >regards newbee > > -- Galt's sci-fi paradox: Stormtro

Re: 486 router is very slow

2001-06-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 12:11:04AM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote: > > >Just a few random checks that come to mind: > > * what is the chip controlling the serial port to the ISDN modem? Is it > > an 8250 or a 16650? I seem to remember that the 8250 were not very good > > but I don't remember

Re: Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread burningclown
uwm ('ultimate window manager') is very interesting. not much to look at, but really really neat and different. did i just type 'neat'? glenn becker On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Daniel Hoffman wrote: > The list so far: > BlackBox > IceWM > fvwm2 > fvwm95 > sawfish > XFce > PWM > > Thanks for the great

Re: Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread Daniel Hoffman
The list so far: BlackBox IceWM fvwm2 fvwm95 sawfish XFce PWM Thanks for the great (and very quick) response so far--any others i should add to my "shopping" list? __ Daniel Hoffman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Voice come from cow on wall." "If you find a solution and become attached to it, the solution m

Re: Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:45:31PM -0400, Daniel Hoffman wrote: > . . . What's your favorite lightweight (but still fully functional!) > window manager? FVWM? Enlightenment? Windowmaker? As long as everyone else is jumping in, icewm is light and very configurable. The only knock on it is that i

Re: the .xinitrc and .xsession puzzle

2001-06-10 Thread D-Man
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 12:42:47PM +0200, Alex Suzuki wrote: | Somehow GNOME just can't remember its settings, and I think I screwed up | those files anyway. Which one gets read when I start X with startx? | I don't use a display manager like xdm or gdm or whatever. Like Andrea I only have a .xses

Re: Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread ktb
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:45:31PM -0400, Daniel Hoffman wrote: > I've got an older Pentium 166 with 16 megs of RAM that I want to put Debian > on. I already tried once, and put KDE on it, but that was very slw and > unresponsive. What's your favorite lightweight (but still fully functional!) >

Sendmail problems

2001-06-10 Thread David D.W. Downey
Hey folks, Got a problem here. I'm using SID, and having problems with sendmail not rewriting addresses on outgoing email. The last known working version was sendmail_8.11.3+8.12.0.Beta7-7_i386.deb The latest was Beta10 which does not work right. Now, there used to be a file called /us

Re: Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Daniel Hoffman wrote: > I've got an older Pentium 166 with 16 megs of RAM that I want to put Debian > on. I already tried once, and put KDE on it, but that was very slw and > unresponsive. What's your favorite lightweight (but still fully functional!) > window manager? FVW

Re: Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread D-Man
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:45:31PM -0400, Daniel Hoffman wrote: | I've got an older Pentium 166 with 16 megs of RAM that I want to put Debian | on. I already tried once, and put KDE on it, but that was very slw and | unresponsive. What's your favorite lightweight (but still fully functional!) |

Re: Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread David Nusinow
On Sunday 10 June 2001 04:45 pm, Daniel Hoffman wrote: > I've got an older Pentium 166 with 16 megs of RAM that I want to put Debian > on. I already tried once, and put KDE on it, but that was very slw and > unresponsive. What's your favorite lightweight (but still fully > functional!) window m

Re: XF86Setup problem

2001-06-10 Thread Joel Mayes
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 10:14:01PM +0200, Jeroen Valcke wrote: > > The xserver-svga package is installed. > On another note now. I'm having trouble figuring out what kind of XFree > version I'm running. I'm a confused by this contradiction > > Tomsk:~# X -version > XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Windo

Best WM for slow machine?

2001-06-10 Thread Daniel Hoffman
I've got an older Pentium 166 with 16 megs of RAM that I want to put Debian on. I already tried once, and put KDE on it, but that was very slw and unresponsive. What's your favorite lightweight (but still fully functional!) window manager? FVWM? Enlightenment? Windowmaker? __ Daniel Hoffman ([E

Re: problems with revision D2 NICs

2001-06-10 Thread D-Man
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 09:38:19PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: | On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 10:13:39PM -0400, D-Man wrote: | > On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 09:54:44PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | > | hey guys, | > | | > | recently, i helped a friend put together a debian box, but i am | > | having

Re: Mail indexing

2001-06-10 Thread Joel Mayes
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 01:24:45PM +0200, oivvio polite wrote: > A long time ago when I was using an other OS I also used Altavista Personal > to index my email. Worked great. I've found a couple of tools (htdig, > glimpse) for linux that index files. I haven't researched theese tools that > de

Re: the .xinitrc and .xsession puzzle

2001-06-10 Thread ktb
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 03:56:24PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > > hi alex > > .xinitrc is used when you run xinitrc or startx to > bring up X11 > > .xsession is used when you log into the X11 screen ( xdm ) > > if you want your gui and x11/windows to look the same no > matter how you login... mak

Re: no signs of life from printer

2001-06-10 Thread Robin Gerard
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 07:04:38PM -0700, Norbert Froese wrote: >. > It seems to me that my problem is more low level than a spooling or > filter problem as there is no activity, even with directly accessing the > printer. > > I am unsure how to proceed to logically diagnose my problem I

Re: the .xinitrc and .xsession puzzle

2001-06-10 Thread Alvin Oga
hi alex .xinitrc is used when you run xinitrc or startx to bring up X11 .xsession is used when you log into the X11 screen ( xdm ) if you want your gui and x11/windows to look the same no matter how you login... make the two files the same ( symlink one to the other ) c ya alvin On Sun, 10

weird problem with init after compiling new kernel

2001-06-10 Thread Mythiq
hello everyone,   I have compiled a new kernel for an 486 which was going to be a filtering firewall. Not for a while I'm afraid, because it won't boot up anymore. (btw: I started with a clean freshly installed system with debian 2.2.18pre21) Lilo works fine; it boots the kernel; after the ke

Boot order, PCMCIA and external SCSI drive

2001-06-10 Thread Ed Falis
I have a jaz drive attached to my machine via a SCSI card plugged into a PCMCIA slot (kernel 2.4.3). Is there a way to get it to automount during boot by getting the PCMCIA services started before processing fstab? Or some other option? Thanks, - Ed

Re: Need Printer Help..............HELP!

2001-06-10 Thread David Nusinow
On Sunday 10 June 2001 12:46 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Don't know if I'm writing to the right place here or not. If you could > help me, I would very much appreciate it. I have a fairly new printer, > DeskJet 648C, and it has always worked great. It is only a few months old. > I updated my

Re: login -graphical user interface

2001-06-10 Thread David Nusinow
On Wednesday 05 July 2000 04:50 am, Peter Whittam wrote: > Ok, I am new at this so be cool about it. > when I start debian it immediately uses the graphical login, > can I change this option to console login? > > regards newbee Two things. One, go to /etc and find the inittab file, and edit the li

Re: Grub: Does it allow for modularized kernel fs

2001-06-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 09:27:40PM +0200, Otto Wyss wrote: > > > Does anyone know if the fs in Grub allows the kernel to load his > > > necessary fs as modules? I.e. if Grub contains a an ext2 fs, can the > [...] > > Both the kernel and grub don't care about each other, in fact, both > > don't no

Re: Very occassional lockups of X

2001-06-10 Thread David Nusinow
On Sunday 10 June 2001 01:39 am, Alan Chandler wrote: > I am running what is essentially a debian woody system (with KDE from CVS > on top). This means XFree 4.0.3 > > Every so often (maybe once every two weeks) the user interface locks solid. > The cursor disappears and no screen updates occur. >

Re: login -graphical user interface

2001-06-10 Thread ktb
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 02:39:37PM -0700, Abner Gershon wrote: > > --- Peter Whittam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, I am new at this so be cool about it. > > when I start debian it immediately uses the > > graphical login, > > can I change this option to console login? > > > > regards newbee

Re: login -graphical user interface

2001-06-10 Thread Abner Gershon
--- Peter Whittam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, I am new at this so be cool about it. > when I start debian it immediately uses the > graphical login, > can I change this option to console login? > > regards newbee > I am relatively new to this too. I know that during installation you can se

Re: star office debian-correct installation

2001-06-10 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 01:50:16PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: :This started the installation program I put it in :/usr/local/bin/soffice52. After the installation finished, I then :logged in as an unpriviledged user, and ran: : :$ /usr/local/bin/soffice52/program/setup AFAIR, if you run "soffi

GNOME

2001-06-10 Thread HawkY
Hi! I have some questions about GNOME. I have Debian (Wow!) 2.2 r0 and the GNOME witch came with the distrib. When I (user) start gnome (startx), it starts normally and I receive a message about panels. "There is a panel already running. Do you want to start a new panel.." or something like t

Re: Xemacs & Debian packaging systems

2001-06-10 Thread Glyn Millington
Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 10 Jun 2001, Glyn Millington wrote: > <...> > > Well I ran Xemacs as root and did some upgrading with it's packaging > > system and it doesn't appear to have done any harm ;-) Maybe we should > > just have assumed that apt-get is just too damned good to

Re: kernel-headers-2.4.5-k7

2001-06-10 Thread David Z Maze
Jan Ulrich Hasecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JUH> Where is the package kernel-headers-2.4.5-k7? I cannot find it on JUH> testing. Do I need it to build a kernel on an Athlon-System? Or can I JUH> use kernel-headers-2.4.5? You shouldn't need any kernel-headers package to build your own kernel, on

Re: login -graphical user interface

2001-06-10 Thread ktb
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 10:35:01PM +0200, vester wrote: > > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Steve Kowalik wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 02:53:24PM +0200, vester uttered: > > > [...] > > > update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/gdm: file does not exist > > > dpkg: error processing gdm (--configure): > > > subpr

Re: star office debian-correct installation

2001-06-10 Thread Mark Wagnon
On 06/10/01 13:16:15 -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: > On 06/10/01 21:47:41 +0200, Frans Schreuder wrote: > > [..] > > > But your install 'sequence' doesn't ring a bell ;-) > > ?espesially? (memory?) the 'net'-option. > > > > I have the executable. That I my knowledge ends. > > [..] Okay, just ins

Re: 486 router is very slow

2001-06-10 Thread Raffaele Sandrini
>Just a few random checks that come to mind: > * what is the chip controlling the serial port to the ISDN modem? Is it > an 8250 or a 16650? I seem to remember that the 8250 were not very good > but I don't remember when they stopped using them. > * check the serial port configuration. What

Re: login -graphical user interface

2001-06-10 Thread vester
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Steve Kowalik wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 02:53:24PM +0200, vester uttered: > > [...] > > update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/gdm: file does not exist > > dpkg: error processing gdm (--configure): > > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 > > [...] > >

Re: dhcp

2001-06-10 Thread Tudor Oprea
--- On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Mark Wagnon wrote: > > Use the standard kernel, and install a DHCP client. (Normally, pump > > should already be installed.) Edit the file /etc/network/interfaces > > and add the line: > > iface eth0 inet dhcp > > I have a quick question. Where do you speci

Re: star office debian-correct installation

2001-06-10 Thread Mark Wagnon
On 06/10/01 21:47:41 +0200, Frans Schreuder wrote: [..] > But your install 'sequence' doesn't ring a bell ;-) > ?espesially? (memory?) the 'net'-option. > > I have the executable. That I my knowledge ends. [..] I'm downloading it right now. It looks to be a little different from what I rememb

Re: star office debian-correct installation

2001-06-10 Thread Nuhn Yobiznez
--- Frans Schreuder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > oppurtunity > could you mention wich commands to follow installing > staroffice for debian? > That is that I wasnot able to find a "convention" > for installing non-debian > software. Reading dutch manual bij Bezemer. > www.dddi.nl (there is a part

Re: lilo 'Block move error 0xAE'

2001-06-10 Thread Norman Walsh
/ ktb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 12:03:02PM -0400, Norman Walsh wrote: | > Can anyone help me get past this error? Google search didn't turn | > up anything useful. Lilo can boot my Win98 partition and I can boot | > the relevant kernel off a floppy, but attempt

Need Printer Help..............HELP!

2001-06-10 Thread DangrousRedhead
Don't know if I'm writing to the right place here or not.  If you could help me, I would very much appreciate it.  I have a fairly new printer, DeskJet 648C, and it has always worked great.  It is only a few months old.  I updated my computer to 6.0, and since then, it will not copy anything fro

Re: star office debian-correct installation

2001-06-10 Thread Mark Wagnon
On 06/10/01 21:18:58 +0200, Frans Schreuder wrote: > oppurtunity > could you mention wich commands to follow installing staroffice for debian? > That is that I wasnot able to find a "convention" for installing non-debian > software. Reading dutch manual bij Bezemer. www.dddi.nl (there is a part in

Re: Grub: Does it allow for modularized kernel fs

2001-06-10 Thread Otto Wyss
> > Does anyone know if the fs in Grub allows the kernel to load his > > necessary fs as modules? I.e. if Grub contains a an ext2 fs, can the [...] > Both the kernel and grub don't care about each other, in fact, both > don't no a thing about the other end [1]. So, yes, you still need > compiled-

kernel-headers-2.4.5-k7

2001-06-10 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
Hi! Where is the package kernel-headers-2.4.5-k7? I cannot find it on testing. Do I need it to build a kernel on an Athlon-System? Or can I use kernel-headers-2.4.5? TIA juh -- Literaturnobelpreis für Kohl http://www.sudelbuch.de/2000/20001121.html

Re: star office debian-correct installation

2001-06-10 Thread Frans Schreuder
oppurtunity could you mention wich commands to follow installing staroffice for debian? That is that I wasnot able to find a "convention" for installing non-debian software. Reading dutch manual bij Bezemer. www.dddi.nl (there is a part in english). Thanks in advance Frans Schreuder - Origin

Re: star office debian-correct installation

2001-06-10 Thread Nuhn Yobiznez
--- joe golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I last checked Star Office was not a package in > the stable > distribution. > > For our small school, which I am about to switch > from NT to Linux, Star > Office appears to be the answer to our need for a > bundle of stable office > programs.

kernel 2.4.5 - ov511.c problem

2001-06-10 Thread tjm
Hello. I'm trying to compile a new 2.4.5 kernel but having trouble with multiple errors that appear to be generated from the usb/ov511.c file. Before I get into the details, is this a known problem and is there a remedy for this situation that I have overlooked? I know this is vague, but maybe

star office debian-correct installation

2001-06-10 Thread joe golden
When I last checked Star Office was not a package in the stable distribution. For our small school, which I am about to switch from NT to Linux, Star Office appears to be the answer to our need for a bundle of stable office programs. We mainly need a smooth switchover from MS Word, Excel and

Raid; mkraid /dev/md0

2001-06-10 Thread Frans Schreuder
Hai all I've been wanting to play with raid. Reading the software-raid-howto; I stranded on mkraid /dev/md0 That darn thing did not want to. -apt-got raidtools2 & dpkg-i kernelpatch...2.2.10.. -edited the raidtab file ( I noticed there beeing a raid directory so I copied it from it's or

Re: libc6>=2.1.97

2001-06-10 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 06:26:43PM +0100, john gennard wrote: > I'm trying to install a .deb package which depends on libc6>=2.1.97 > and have been unable to locate it. I run Potato and only have > v.2.1.3-13 of libc6. From the sound of it, you're trying to install a package from woody or sid on y

Re: gnome/KDE

2001-06-10 Thread Bruce Sass
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Phillip Deackes wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:16:40 -0400 > "Margarete Hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What are the advantages/disadvantages of gnome and KDE? Basically, > > which one should I install? > > Depends. We all have our favourite window manager (although KDE

Re: /etc/network/interfaces not strictly correct?

2001-06-10 Thread Bill Wohler
Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is no need to manually add a route [after adding a gateway keyword]. > I still can't ping past my gateway I'll bet your gateway's firewall is blocking ICMP. -- Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD

Re: boot floppy

2001-06-10 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 12:22:48AM -0300, xgnu wrote: :Hi all. :2: The kernel version is 2.2.17. I want to compile 2.4.5, but :I have a tar.gz file, not the deb pkg and I had not installed :development tools. Which packages I need to compile the new :kernel? the package "kernel-package" contains

Re: Xemacs & Debian packaging systems

2001-06-10 Thread Bruce Sass
On 10 Jun 2001, Glyn Millington wrote: <...> > Well I ran Xemacs as root and did some upgrading with it's packaging > system and it doesn't appear to have done any harm ;-) Maybe we should > just have assumed that apt-get is just too damned good to be thrown by > Xemacs' antics! The only time you

ifup -a broken?

2001-06-10 Thread Dave Sherohman
I'm trying to convert a system that's been running since pre-ifup days to use /etc/network/interfaces and it's behaving oddly. ifupdown is version 0.6.4-3 from testing. As the log below shows, all three of the interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces behave properly when addressed by name, but using

libc6>=2.1.97

2001-06-10 Thread john gennard
I'm trying to install a .deb package which depends on libc6>=2.1.97 and have been unable to locate it. I run Potato and only have v.2.1.3-13 of libc6. Anyone know where it can be found and also if it will cause problems with 2.2.r2? Thanks, John.

Re: NFS

2001-06-10 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 08:58:58AM -0400, Jerry Sternesky wrote: > I installed nfs-common and > nfs-kernel-server. ^ > rpcinfo -p only showed portmapper running so I executed rpc.mountd and that > seemed ok, but when I run rpc.nfsd I get nfssvc: Function not implemented. Did

Re: ripping quiet CDs

2001-06-10 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 03:08:05PM +0800, Ben Harvey wrote: > On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 01:48:35AM -0500, Jason Pepas wrote: > > > > in short, it sounds like normalization is exactly what you want. > > > OK fair enough. so that means I can filter a .WAV through normalize before > compression - wit

Re: HELP - wmakerconf blew my menus away!!!!

2001-06-10 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 11:10:40AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I know that this must be a common problem, but the archives for the mailing > list are unavalable. I ran wmakerconf as a normal user to change some of > the look and feel of windowmaker. However, when wmakerconf started up, told

Re: the .xinitrc and .xsession puzzle

2001-06-10 Thread Andrea Vettorello
Alex Suzuki wrote: > Hello friends, > > I wanted to ask you guys what ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession are all about. > I run Debian woody, GNOME and sawfish as my windowmanager (sawfish-gnome > package). > Somehow GNOME just can't remember its settings, and I think I screwed up > those files anyway. Wh

Slow and ugly X startup with NVidia drivers

2001-06-10 Thread Alex Suzuki
Hello friends, This is already bothering me for a while, but I never really cared. But now I just want it fixed. The problem: I use X 4.0.3 as in testing, and the Nvidia kernel and GLX drivers, I'm _not_ using the newest ones, because I heard that there are problems with them. When I start X with

Re: XFree 4, potato and Ximian-gnome

2001-06-10 Thread Kent Pirkle
I'm currently running potato with the unofficial Xfree 4.03 debs available from cpbotha. I'm running Ximian GNOME 1.4. It's the most stable and usable setup I've had so far. On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 09:28:54PM -0700, MRZ wrote: > Hello again.. > After two weeks of trying to upgrade from X 3.3 to

Re: the .xinitrc and .xsession puzzle

2001-06-10 Thread Alex Suzuki
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 11:14:33AM -0500, ktb wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 12:42:47PM +0200, Alex Suzuki wrote: > back-grounded with "&". Usually back-grounding everything but you're > window manager is the way to go. > hth, > kent Thanks kent. I'm now using .xinitrc exclusively. xsetroot -

Re: login -graphical user interface

2001-06-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 01:15:02PM +0100, Glyn Millington wrote: > vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > one possibility would be to edit your /etc/init.d/windowmanager-script > > (that is, xdm gdm kdm or whatever you are using)...just put in "exit" into > > the first line then they won't start

Re: dhcp

2001-06-10 Thread Mark Wagnon
On 06/10/01 09:17:07 +0200, Guy Geens wrote: [..] > Use the standard kernel, and install a DHCP client. (Normally, pump > should already be installed.) Edit the file /etc/network/interfaces > and add the line: > iface eth0 inet dhcp [..] I have a quick question. Where do you specify your hostn

Re: Winmodem translator?

2001-06-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:34:24AM +0200, Robert Voigt wrote: > On Sunday 10 June 2001 04:41, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > There is a kernel driver for the Lucent winmodems ... it's a binary > > only module and CPU really gets whacked when you're dialed in. > > Not any more. There is now a driver av

Re: XFree 4, potato and Ximian-gnome

2001-06-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 09:28:54PM -0700, MRZ wrote: > Hello again.. > After two weeks of trying to upgrade from X 3.3 to X 4.x I've finally reached > my patience limit. Despite a fair bit of help and advice from a number of > list members (thanks everyone!) I've been unable to successfully achie

Re: Abiword and truetype fonts solution.

2001-06-10 Thread ha shao
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 04:21:58PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > How to get truetype fonts working under Abiword? > - Copy the truetype fonts > ... > It works for me, even though there will be certain issues, like duplication > of ttfonts on the system. Comments appreciated, especially if t

Re: lilo 'Block move error 0xAE'

2001-06-10 Thread ktb
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 12:03:02PM -0400, Norman Walsh wrote: > Can anyone help me get past this error? Google search didn't turn > up anything useful. Lilo can boot my Win98 partition and I can boot > the relevant kernel off a floppy, but attempting to boot Linux from > the hard disk produces 'Blo

Re: the .xinitrc and .xsession puzzle

2001-06-10 Thread ktb
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 12:42:47PM +0200, Alex Suzuki wrote: > Hello friends, > > I wanted to ask you guys what ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession are all about. > I run Debian woody, GNOME and sawfish as my windowmanager (sawfish-gnome > package). > Somehow GNOME just can't remember its settings, and I t

lilo 'Block move error 0xAE'

2001-06-10 Thread Norman Walsh
Can anyone help me get past this error? Google search didn't turn up anything useful. Lilo can boot my Win98 partition and I can boot the relevant kernel off a floppy, but attempting to boot Linux from the hard disk produces 'Block move error 0xAE'. Help? B

Re: Xfree86 a.out installation question

2001-06-10 Thread David Z Maze
Margarete Hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MH> I want to install Xfree86 4.1.0 on my laptop. What version of Debian are you running? Did you do a complete install, or do you just have the (extremely minimal) "base system"? MH> I tried running the Xinstall.sh with the -check option to find out MH

Help; apt-get kills system, ifup broken..

2001-06-10 Thread Gregory Guthrie
Help. I am running Debian 2.2, with upgrade to Woody from debian.org via FTP. I have been running well for over 5 months without reboot(!) or maintenance. I went to fetch a new package, and my system decided it wanted to get 108 MB of updates. It failed on a bunch of them, I tried again, and again

Re: startx

2001-06-10 Thread W.T. Boman
> > I'm trying to get X on a new potato installation.#startx results in > > "no such file or directory". > > #/usr/X11R6/bin/X results in > >Config Error: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config > > Identifier "14"non-interlacedcolor > >Monitor section keyword expected >

Re: Abiword and truetype fonts solution.

2001-06-10 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 04:21:58PM +0200, Hans uttered: > from http://hell.hell.pl/baran/tek/linux/debian/ttmkfdir/ as it is not in > unstable), this will create a new fonts.dir file with the truetype fonts ttmkfdir not in unstable? You must have missed something. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache se

Re: Configuring gnus

2001-06-10 Thread John S. J. Anderson
> On Sat, 09 Jun 2001 13:04:48 -0700, Debian User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: DU> With the conservative route (install gnus in order to keep using DU> RMAIL for a while), will gnus give normal MIME ability? Or would DU> I need to install semi-gnus to be able to use the MIME DU> functionality th

Abiword and truetype fonts solution.

2001-06-10 Thread Hans
I posted a question about this earlier and I have a working solution. How to get truetype fonts working under Abiword? - Copy the truetype fonts you want to use to the directory /usr/share/abisuite/fonts - Make backups of the files fonts.dir and fonts.scale - Run ttmkfdir (get a deb for woody from

Re: List new packages after an apt-get update

2001-06-10 Thread Joey Hess
USM Bish wrote: > console-apt (capt) does just that. It has three packet > dividers: > > a) Updated packages > b) Installed packages (newer version available) > c) Non-installed packages This is news to me. Are they in the order you list them? If so, I probably just didn't notice the divider betw

Re: Is there a .deb of a (recent) html validator? Answer: see validator.w3.org

2001-06-10 Thread Lance Simmons
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 12:25:34AM -0700, hansen wrote: > see > http://validator.w3.org/ > http://validator.w3.org/source/ > > an html validator that works over the web . a perl script. > handles several versions of html. > from the makers of html/http itself, w3.org > free, as usual Both sites

Re: login -graphical user interface

2001-06-10 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 02:53:24PM +0200, vester uttered: > [...] > update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/gdm: file does not exist > dpkg: error processing gdm (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 > [...] > > it works fine if i first touch /etc/init.d/gdm only that

Re: NFS

2001-06-10 Thread Roderick Cummings
From: Jerry Sternesky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: NFS Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:58:58 -0400 Where can I get information on setting up an NFS share for Potato? The nfs how-to isn't helping me and in The Debian GNU/Linux Network adminstrator's manual, the nfs

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