Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Steve" == Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Steve> On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 05:07:12PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: >> Steve, I think you misunderstand what "stable", "unstable" etc are. Steve> No, I am not. I am well aware of it means. I think not. Unstable means "expect glit

Re: PPPD Not working?

1998-05-17 Thread Jack Kern
On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 09:54:05AM -0400, Carroll Kong wrote: > I cannot believe I am asking this since I had it working with Debian > 1.3R6. After upgrading to Debian 2.0 via hamm, and reinstalling "minicom", > I tried doing my usual, login via minicom, quit without reset, run 'pppd > /

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, You put unstable in dselects install list. You then proceeded not to tell dslect to put ewverything on hold (as I have explained earlier, this involves hitting = twice on the right line in dselect). You then proceeded to install. Not currently being able to read minds, dsel

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Bill" == Bill Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bill> Manjo; I am interpreting what you are saying as meaning that Bill> _every time_ I run dselect, I have to choose hold (=) to prevent Bill> dselect from upgrading automagically. Now since I KNOW that Bill> this is not correct, ie: I frequ

GDB

1998-05-17 Thread Pete Poff
I'm using the "-g" flag. But gdb will tell me what code is causing the crash right? Thanks, Pete Poff E-Mail Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Python-base bug in Hamm

1998-05-17 Thread Anthony Fok
On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 03:34:29PM -0700, George Bonser wrote: > On Sun, 17 May 1998, George Bonser wrote: > > I do not know what the trouble is with this, exactly but in the > postinst script the lines that are supposed to pass the -q to the > compileall.py script get interpreted as python opions

boot failure: "hde: Probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS"

1998-05-17 Thread Jack Kern
Kernel 2.0.32 (from the kernel-image package) fails to boot hamm system. Reboot occurs after line b: a hda: ST3491A, 408MB w/120kB Cache, LBA, CHS=899/15/62 b hde: Probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS The system has only one drive and is AFAIK indicated correctly by line a. Booti

Re: New ae uploaded to Incoming

1998-05-17 Thread Raul Miller
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I can add this binding back into the ae.rc file with no > difficulties, and probably should. It is exactly those function keys that > these keybinding are supposed to be fixing. There are many terminals > without function keys, all send a control key.

Install from fat32

1998-05-17 Thread Carl Flippin
I couldn't find any mention of it in the FAQs so I'm asking here: Is there any way to install Linux from a fat32 partition? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: gdb

1998-05-17 Thread Tomas Berndtsson
Pete Poff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When I try out gdb on my program, all I can get is 'Program recieved > signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x8096baa in ? (). > Does anyone know how I can use that to find out what code is causing the > crash? I've read the helps, but can seem to what to

gdb

1998-05-17 Thread Pete Poff
When I try out gdb on my program, all I can get is 'Program recieved signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x8096baa in ? (). Does anyone know how I can use that to find out what code is causing the crash? I've read the helps, but can seem to what to use. Thanks, Pete Poff E-Mail Address: [EMAIL

Re: FTP site

1998-05-17 Thread shaul
> On Sat, May 16, 1998 at 10:15:48AM -0500, matthew.r.pavlovich.1 wrote: > > This what I get: > > Connected to santanni.cc.gatech.edu. > > 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection > > I recall it blocks access from systems for which a reverse DNS lookup fails. > Maybe yours i

Re: New ae uploaded to Incoming

1998-05-17 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sun, 17 May 1998, Raul Miller wrote: > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, the choice I made was not all that correct either. The correct > > choice would be a C-H sequence of some sort, but this is problematical at > > several levels. > > C-? is fine for those environments where

problem with netscape{3,4} installer

1998-05-17 Thread Bob Nielsen
I had some problems with my netscape installation and decided to purge netscape and reinstall. Now, with either netscape 3.04, navigator 4.05 or communicator 4.05, I get the following error when using the appropriate Debian installer package: Unpacking netscape3 (from netscape3_3.04-3.deb) ... -

Re: Few Questions

1998-05-17 Thread Stuart Krivis
On Sun, 17 May 1998, Pete Poff wrote: > 1. How do you tell how much disk space you have left? Just checked and the -k flag seems to be the default under linux - at least in RH5. -- Stuart Krivis[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: Few Questions

1998-05-17 Thread Stuart Krivis
On Sun, 17 May 1998, Pete Poff wrote: > 1. How do you tell how much disk space you have left? df df -k for a more readable output. -- Stuart Krivis[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Few Questions

1998-05-17 Thread Pete Poff
1. How do you tell how much disk space you have left? 2. Does anyone know how to use the gdb to tell what caused a program to crash? Thanks, Pete Poff E-Mail Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: KDE + debian Hamm frozen ...it deleted all my password list !!!!

1998-05-17 Thread Martin Bialasinski
> "Ol" == m0ebius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ol> Now each time I run and save with the users manager program it delete Ol> all login passwd.I rembered too late there is a probs with shadow password Ol> under Ol> KDE. Could it be the reason of this really strange bug ??? This has been repo

KDE + debian Hamm frozen ...it deleted all my password list !!!!

1998-05-17 Thread m0ebius
I installed KDE on my hamm linux.All were working fine. I played a bit with it.Especially with the user manager program. I went to the console mode ...I tested the differents logins. No probs...went back to the KDE.By mistake I pushed the lockscreen. No way to get back to KDE...I killed it and rel

Re: HP DAT drives

1998-05-17 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pfaff) writes: > Does anyone out there have experience with Hewlett-Packard SCSI DAT > drives, specifically the 12/24 GB models? I'm thinking about getting > a backup system for my computer (which has 12 GB of HDDs), and this > seems to be the best deal out there. Do they

Re: New ae uploaded to Incoming

1998-05-17 Thread Gregory S. Stark
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On 17 May 1998, Rob Browning wrote: > > > block -> C-space > > I used C-@ before I knew about C-space. I will add it to the next release > (as an alternate key) to reduce the surprise for those emacs users used to > using C-space. C-space typicall

Re: Help with X and signal 11

1998-05-17 Thread Bonard B. Timmons III
I have a feeling that it's your RAM. Have you tried the memtest program? I myself have been running the latest slink xfree86 with no problems whatsoever. If I were you I would try out memtest on different combinations of your SIMMs. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subje

Re: PCMCIA card problems (Hamm)

1998-05-17 Thread Brian Mays
Ian Lynagh wrote: > >I am having problems with PCMCIA cards on my Dell Inspiron 3000. > >I have a 3C589D and a "Psion Dacom Gold Card Global V34 PC Card". > >I have a fresh install of Hamm from, IIRC, the 26/4/98 install > >disks. > I have fixed this by reinstalling and this time not using the up

Help with X and signal 11

1998-05-17 Thread Kiyan Azarbar
Over the past four days, I have struggled with this recurring problem. It first occurred when I installed the newest package version of xbase and xserver-svga from the debian mirrors. I had also switched to WindowMaker, so I thought maybe the problem was there. So far: it hasn't happened to me

Re: [off topic] Mail with no destination?

1998-05-17 Thread Art Lemasters
Bill said: > I am assuming that there must still be enough 'broken' mail > servers "out there" that it is still possible to move mail that > is not RFC compliant but I am totally mystified as to how a > message that has no destination can be forwarded by any mail > server!? > > Has anyone else se

Re: picons

1998-05-17 Thread Christophe Broult
Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Are there any good programs that use the picon* packages (personal > icons)? I'm looking for something as nice as Netscape's mail/news > clients.. I looked at exmh and, well, it doesn't compare. The xfaces program uses those packages to display the icon

Re: New ae uploaded to Incoming

1998-05-17 Thread Rob Browning
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > C-? is fine for those environments where it's not DEL, but the proper > way to implement help has all unbound keys suggest the cannonical help > key (for example: "press F1 for help"). Ok, but Dale's trying to find control bindings for everything, in addi

libXpm and xgalaga

1998-05-17 Thread kaynjay
While trying to get xgalaga set up I ran ./configure as laid out in the install doc, and got an error message about libXpm not being found. I tracked down the dir where it exists and reran the above as ./configure --with-xpm-dir=DIR (this may not be exactly right ... it was late last night, a

Re: PCMCIA card problems (Hamm)

1998-05-17 Thread Ian Lynagh
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ian Lynagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >[CCed to Brian Mays (PCMCIA maintainer) and debian-user] [Same CC] >I am having problems with PCMCIA cards on my Dell Inspiron 3000. >I have a 3C589D and a "Psion Dacom Gold Card Global V34 PC Card". >I have a fresh install

Re: New ae uploaded to Incoming

1998-05-17 Thread Raul Miller
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, the choice I made was not all that correct either. The correct > choice would be a C-H sequence of some sort, but this is problematical at > several levels. C-? is fine for those environments where it's not DEL, but the proper way to implement help h

Re: netscape problem ...

1998-05-17 Thread Scott Ellis
On Sun, 17 May 1998, The CampGround wrote: > > I recently (about an hour ago) downloaded netscape 4.05 from netscape, ran > the ns-install script, and it threw the files in /usr/local/netscape.. I > run /usr/local/netscape/netscape & inside an xterm and i get: > netscape: can't load library 'lib

Re: URGENT how to change your domain name

1998-05-17 Thread Will Lowe
On Fri, 15 May 1998, Bob Hilliard wrote: > > /etc/hostinfo file which contains names, ip addresses, and domain names > > This sounds worthwhile, if we can figure out how to make _all_ > programs use it. Where does /bin/hostname get the domain name when > run with the -f or -d options? I

netscape problem ...

1998-05-17 Thread The CampGround
I recently (about an hour ago) downloaded netscape 4.05 from netscape, ran the ns-install script, and it threw the files in /usr/local/netscape.. I run /usr/local/netscape/netscape & inside an xterm and i get: netscape: can't load library 'libXt.so.6' Now, I reran ldconfig, tried it again, got th

Re: Toshiba and HP's GNU/Linux compatibility

1998-05-17 Thread Stefan Baums
On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 11:47:24AM -0500, robert havoc pennington wrote: > > On Sun, 17 May 1998, Stefan Baums wrote: > > > > I'll buy a notebook computer shortly, and one of my prime concerns is > > that GNU/Linux will not only run on it somehow, but actually use the > > available hardware featu

Re: New ae uploaded to Incoming

1998-05-17 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 17 May 1998, Rob Browning wrote: > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I did the best I could at replacing all the "critical" functionality with > > control keys so that ae can function in both a dumb terminal as well as > > the full featured console. Because of the limited choices

Re: Toshiba and HP's GNU/Linux compatibility

1998-05-17 Thread robert havoc pennington
On Sun, 17 May 1998, Stefan Baums wrote: > > I'll buy a notebook computer shortly, and one of my prime concerns is > that GNU/Linux will not only run on it somehow, but actually use the > available hardware features. At the moment, I'm considering the > If you really want to be sure your best be

Toshiba and HP's GNU/Linux compatibility

1998-05-17 Thread Stefan Baums
Hi all! I'll buy a notebook computer shortly, and one of my prime concerns is that GNU/Linux will not only run on it somehow, but actually use the available hardware features. At the moment, I'm considering the Toshiba Satellite 300 CDT and the HP Omnibook 2000 (+ internal CDROM for its accessory

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-17 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, 16 May 1998, Steve Lamb wrote: : On Sun, 17 May 1998 00:32:29 -0400, Bill Leach wrote: : : >Although I admit to now being in the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" : >mode myself (while hamm is in frozen), I do not personally subscribe to : >that philosophy. The 'pain' of delaying upgrad

Re: AfterStep

1998-05-17 Thread Alexey Vyskubov
On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 02:29:28PM +, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote: > On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 01:01:50PM +0400, Alexey Vyskubov wrote: > > > > Where is configuration files for afterstep_1.4.5.3-1??? > > > > My ~/GNUstep doesn't work now. > > Moreover, there is no /usr/share/GNUstep. > > > > In /

Re: Default Beep

1998-05-17 Thread Chris
On Sun, 17 May 1998, Shaleh wrote: > There is an app that lets you do this. I read it in one of the Debian > packaged > howtos. It is the same program that lets you change all kinds of low level > stuff. Like console colors and what not. > Any ideas what the app was? C. -

[off topic] Mail with no destination?

1998-05-17 Thread Bill Leach
I had my first 'fetchmail failure'. Fetchmail error-ed out when retrieving mail from my ISP night before last. The fetchmail error was something along the lines of "no valid domain name for sender". Upon starting netscape and configuring it to POP mail from my ISP, I let netscape pull down the e

dselect crashes

1998-05-17 Thread Jukka Neppius
I have collection of Debian 2.0 packages. Downloaded mainly 5.5.98. Some packages later, so I use 'scan' instead of Packages file. I started with clean partitions, because i wanted to protect old working Debian. Selection of packages is normal, but installation ends: "internal error - no filenam

Re: AfterStep

1998-05-17 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 01:01:50PM +0400, Alexey Vyskubov wrote: > > Where is configuration files for afterstep_1.4.5.3-1??? > > My ~/GNUstep doesn't work now. > Moreover, there is no /usr/share/GNUstep. > > In /usr/doc/afterstep/README.debian : > [..] mkdir ~/GNUstep mkdir ~/GNUstep/Library c

PPPD Not working?

1998-05-17 Thread Carroll Kong
I cannot believe I am asking this since I had it working with Debian 1.3R6. After upgrading to Debian 2.0 via hamm, and reinstalling "minicom", I tried doing my usual, login via minicom, quit without reset, run 'pppd /dev/modem 57600 crtscts defaultroute modem' then it hangs up instant

Re: fdos for making a HD- bootable Linux

1998-05-17 Thread M.C. Vernon
> Hello all Linuxers, Greetings! > Me too, i have still a question, that i believe not beeing answered > yet. Its a little bit strange: My Debian distrib is obviously missing > the 'fdos' package needed by the mbr(?) tool to make Linux bootable from > the harddisk. If im right and didnt post a

fdos for making a HD- bootable Linux

1998-05-17 Thread Nils Radtke
Hello all Linuxers, Me too, i have still a question, that i believe not beeing answered yet. Its a little bit strange: My Debian distrib is obviously missing the 'fdos' package needed by the mbr(?) tool to make Linux bootable from the harddisk. If im right and didnt post a question xth time, wher

PCMCIA card problems (Hamm)

1998-05-17 Thread Ian Lynagh
[CCed to Brian Mays (PCMCIA maintainer) and debian-user] I am having problems with PCMCIA cards on my Dell Inspiron 3000. I have a 3C589D and a "Psion Dacom Gold Card Global V34 PC Card". I have a fresh install of Hamm from, IIRC, the 26/4/98 install disks. I am using: * pcmcia-modules-2.0.33_3.

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
This is a somewhat incredulous discussion! On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 12:26:47AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Yes, if you want to do it with dselect. No, if you do it with dpkg, > > which is far easier. > According to whose standards? To me dselect is far easier because I > don't have to wade th

Re: single user question / problem ?

1998-05-17 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, shaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I was using X, after loging in with XDM when I decided to go to single user >mode from a VT. > >rakefet# telinit s You are not supposed to use 'telinit s' directly. Use "shutdown -h now" or "telinit 1". That will go to level 1 firs

AfterStep

1998-05-17 Thread Alexey Vyskubov
Where is configuration files for afterstep_1.4.5.3-1??? My ~/GNUstep doesn't work now. Moreover, there is no /usr/share/GNUstep. In /usr/doc/afterstep/README.debian : ``Added support for either ~/GNUstep (highly recommended) installations or /usr/share/GNUstep. To get ~/GNUstep set up, type "c

Re: Apache package q

1998-05-17 Thread Art Lemasters
It worked, George. You should know that I updated base-passwd after the last fix, though. Other than that, it looks like a "go!" Don't forget dependencies, if there are any, BTW, I also used the most easy-and-excellent-for- newbies _dselect_, the method that allows us to punch "y" or "n" an

Re: Debian...

1998-05-17 Thread Petra, Kevin J Poorman
On Sat, 16 May 1998, Phillip Neumann wrote: You need to install the debian pacakges of xbase, xfntbase, xfnt75, and a xserver, from the debian ftp site ftp.debian.org you need to match the xserver, with your card type, for instance, the xserver-s3 is for the s3 based video cards, and the xserver-s

downloading packages from WindowsNT

1998-05-17 Thread John_Gay
I've been loading Linux the hard way by modeming the packages from the Windows PC I have all the packages on to the Linux box via a null-modem cable with zmodem. I've been told that I can't have the Linux box on when I'm at work so I was wondering if it was possible to set-up the Linux box to fetch

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-17 Thread Bonard B. Timmons III
No autoupdating? I don't see what the problem is here: why not use dpkg? I upgrade all the time with only dpkg and I cannot imagine how it could be improved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Apache package q

1998-05-17 Thread Johnie Ingram
"George" == George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: George> base-passwd. The trouble is that base-passwd overwrites George> /etc/passwd ... or at least it used to the last time I screwed George> up and selected it. It no longer does this. George> Why is Apache dependant on that package? If

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 05:07:12PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Steve, I think you misunderstand what "stable", "unstable" etc are. No, I am not. I am well aware of it means. > If you want continued upgrading of your applications, then you should > track unstable -- currently slink. If you

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Steve, I think you misunderstand what "stable", "unstable" etc are. Let's consider slink, for example. It begins as unstable (eg it is unstable now). Contrary to the name, this does not mean that it is not stable -- it means that it isn't tested to be stable, and that it is undergoing further devel

Re: Default Beep

1998-05-17 Thread Shaleh
There is an app that lets you do this. I read it in one of the Debian packaged howtos. It is the same program that lets you change all kinds of low level stuff. Like console colors and what not. Chris wrote: > > I just had a weird though - is it possible to change the default beep in > linux

Default Beep

1998-05-17 Thread Chris
I just had a weird though - is it possible to change the default beep in linux? You know - the one you get in vi all the time ;) Being able to ty it to a wav would be interesting - but even just changing the pitch / length would be good. Anybody got some ideas? Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Apache & Swish-E Don't Get Along?

1998-05-17 Thread Art Lemasters
I tried Swish-E (with the AutoSwish script) in hamm with an Apache server. I did not do very well with it-- too many changes in the scripts of both to suit Apache's directory and CGI auth requirements. Is Swish-E written to suit NCSA's HTTPD more closely, or is it just my newbie-ness? ;-) A

Re: New ae uploaded to Incoming

1998-05-17 Thread Rob Browning
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I did the best I could at replacing all the "critical" functionality with > control keys so that ae can function in both a dumb terminal as well as > the full featured console. Because of the limited choices the alphabet > provides, I was not able to conv

Re: Additional resourrces on hylafax

1998-05-17 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hi, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : I agree. But you see, in this case, people had already : presented the error to the author, (possibly zillions of times), and : there wasw indeed a fix available. It is just so hard to find. I see. When you say "the author", you mean the

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, 17 May 1998 00:32:29 -0400, Bill Leach wrote: >Although I admit to now being in the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" >mode myself (while hamm is in frozen), I do not personally subscribe to >that philosophy. The 'pain' of delaying upgrading to repair bugs can be >considerable and partic

Re: Fwd: Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-17 Thread Bill Leach
Steve, it is not unreasonable to want dselect (or apt) to be configurable such that you can choose to have it not do anything that you do not explicitely request it to do. I have maintained a partial mirror of debian for quite some time now and still would find it handy if dselect were to have a m

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-17 Thread Bill Leach
Manjo; I am interpreting what you are saying as meaning that _every time_ I run dselect, I have to choose hold (=) to prevent dselect from upgrading automagically. Now since I KNOW that this is not correct, ie: I frequently run dselect and I do not 'rechoose' hold to prevent updating what I aske

Re: [SECURITY] New versions of gzip available

1998-05-17 Thread Christian Hudon
On Friday, May 15, George Bonser wrote > > Find a mirror of the Debian incoming directory ... I think there are some > listed on the Debian web page ... and grab the new debianutils and install > it manually with dpkg -i Debian 1.3.1r8 has been released with a debianutils that makes gzip happy. I

Re: informing a user community

1998-05-17 Thread Petra, Kevin J Poorman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 16 May 1998, G. Kaplan wrote: Uhm, IRC? irc.debian.org #debian > It seems to me , new user, that the use of chat rooms would be a means > to more rapidly distributing the knowledge one need to be successful in > using Linux in general and Debian in par

smail anti-spam

1998-05-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Can anyone give me an example of an smtp_remote_allow for smail? I have tried smtp_remote_allow=localnet:rising.com.au and some variations, but whatever I do, my machine hamishpc.rising.com.au is not allowed to relay mail through. Any ideas? thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: pppd 2.3.5: "peer refused to authenticate" problem

1998-05-17 Thread john
Martin Bialasinski writes: > Remove the "require-pap" or "+pap" option. His problem most likely stems from the fact that the ppp package in frozen has 'auth' in /etc/ppp/options. He says he kept his old config files: one solution would be to add 'noauth' to his ppp.options_out. Better would be t