Re[2]: Expelling David Cinege from the list

1997-08-22 Thread David_Neuer
I agree with you, Britton. As I said in my follow up post, if you caught it: I was being sarcastic to make a point (which apparently was very poorly done, as it seems that it was pretty generally missed). I simply think that the things that he is complaining about are really of no consequence at

Please help...

1997-08-22 Thread Zim9781
Hi, I've just downloaded vubbs for Linux. I've extracted the installation files to /vubbs as root. But my problem is when I try to run package (The installation program) as root, bash says the file package does not exist. I've tried running package as another user and it executes fine, but says

Re: FTP server problems (I think)

1997-08-22 Thread Zim9781
No I wasn't running wu-ftp, but I just installed it and it works fine. Thanks anyway. In a message dated 97-08-22 10:00:17 EDT, you write: << You are using wu-ftp? The trouble is that the ls command in /home/ftp/bin is not statically linked, but depends on a library which should be in /home/

debian-user needs a charter!

1997-08-22 Thread Jim Pick
I just came back from a week's work, and I've discovered that the nature of debian-user has changed dramatically. That's unfortunate, since it was previously an excellent forum for solving user problems. The signal-to-noise ratio was superb. Now it has been hijacked for use as a batteground fo

Re: Linux kernel 2.0.31????

1997-08-22 Thread Pete Harlan
> > > > When is 31 going to be finished? There are already pre-31 patches ... > > with it, the BEST thing you can do at this point is install 2.0.29 and ... > Out of curiosity what's so evil about 2.0.30? It is the first kernel I've tried since 0.99pl8 that I couldn't keep running. We had immedi

Re: Expelling David Cinege from the list

1997-08-22 Thread Britton
> >There was no good reason for a corp to be formed. I kept quite. There was no > >good reason to put out an 'Official' cd (which hurt a lot of our CD-R guys), > >and I kept quite. Now for the most pethtic reason, the entire version control > ^ ^^^ > >system (

Re: simple questions

1997-08-22 Thread stick
Howdy! Let's tackle the LILO question first. After we get your system booting the way you want, then we can deal with X. > > I didn't get a satisfactory answer before, so I will try again. I know > about LILO, it is on my boot diskette. How do I get it into the > partition so my System Commander

Re: Linux kernel 2.0.31????

1997-08-22 Thread Dave Wreski
> > Every Linux production server I work on is 2.0.29. Not one single 2.0.30 > > in the bunch... > what's wrong with 2.0.30? am i missing something? I've accidentally deleted the message that talked about ip_masq being fixed in 2.0.30. I think it is fixed by applying a patch to 2.0.30, n

Re: Linux kernel 2.0.31????

1997-08-22 Thread Dave Wreski
> I agree with jon here. A few weeks ago i tried to compile and run a > pre-release of 2.0.31 and had all kinds of problems. I went back to > 2.0.30 and everything has been peachy so far. There were two different threads of development for 2.0.31. For a few months David Miller was doing the de

ppp-script problem,

1997-08-22 Thread lc29b50
my isp provider is my college, the dial-in pool does not automatically run ppp after connection. Local address is assigned dynamically. I log in (Username: Password are the login prompts), and type "ppp" on a prompt (prompt is "your destination >") to run ppp. So far, my ppp script is not work

Re: about bo-updates ...

1997-08-22 Thread john
Carlo U Segre writes: > One thing that strikes me about the change in the organization of the > stable tree is that I have seen no simple instructions on how to make use > of the updates in the bo-updates driectory since they are not linked to a > version of the stable tree. manoj writes: > Do you

Re: Installing Linux

1997-08-22 Thread Carl Fink
> I know that LILO exists, but all of the messages I've read so far seem > to imply that I will have to format my drive. I really, really don't > want to do this. Any other solutions short of buying Partition Magic? > > I have a 2.1 gig C: and a 1.1 gig D:. Win95 resides on C:. Yes. You can for

Re: Passwd: encrypted pw entry

1997-08-22 Thread Carey Evans
Matthew Tebbens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How can I disable an /etc/passwd entry. Isn't there something I can place > in the encrypted-pw section of /etc/passwd to disable the account ? Type `passwd -l username' to do it automatically. Make sure there are no other ways in like ~/.rhosts. --

Re: PPP dialup problems

1997-08-22 Thread Chad D. Zimmerman
Well, I put the old back in and it dialed out right ... gona check the settingins on the new card ... it may have had a conflict there .. will try the new card again in a couple of days. Chad -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Chad D. Zimmerman

re: printing to an HP Deskjet 870

1997-08-22 Thread adavis
It works well to configure using magicfilter, as a laserjet 4. And for color, you can configure another printer as a Deskjet 550c, though it's not convincing---it does work though. There exists a driver for dj 850, though I was unable to get it to compile (incompetence on my part). Does Ghostsc

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-22 Thread Britton
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Aug 21, Dave Cinege wrote > > Rev each change and I'm happy enough to be quite. This is the only reason I > > started yelling, I still feel it is a good one. > > Yes, well, I'm suggesting you should shut up regardless. Everyone could stop beati

Re: simple questions

1997-08-22 Thread Mike Schmitz
On Aug 22, Robert S. Ross wrote > I didn't get a satisfactory answer before, so I will try again. I know > about LILO, it is on my boot diskette. How do I get it into the > partition so my System Commander can call it? > My Red Hat installation offers the option of booting from the partition, > if

simple questions

1997-08-22 Thread Robert S. Ross
I didn't get a satisfactory answer before, so I will try again. I know about LILO, it is on my boot diskette. How do I get it into the partition so my System Commander can call it? My Red Hat installation offers the option of booting from the partition, if I wish. How do I get Debian to do that? Un

Re: shielding from liability

1997-08-22 Thread john
Paul Serice writes: > Suppose, Bruce is "going to drive tomorrow to Santa Cruz (from Berkeley) > to participate in a meeting for Debian," and on the way he causes an > accident. Before incorporation, no one knew how far the liability tail > extended. Are you an attorney? I'm not. I find it hard

Re: incorporation

1997-08-22 Thread Gary L. Dolan
At 01:28 PM 8/22/97 CDT, you wrote: >jan vroonhof wrote, >> Just wondering: If that was a concern wouldn't have been better to >> have incorperated in a country where the legal climate is less >> aggressive? > >I don't think it would have helped. They would still have the underlying >individual

Re: shielding from liability

1997-08-22 Thread Gary L. Dolan
At 10:15 AM 8/22/97 -0500, you wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> I don't really think there is much risk, though. Where's the duty? >> >> Has there ever actually been a negligence suit over free software? >> > >This is a good question. I would imagine the answer is no, but . I haven't had

Re: Linux kernel 2.0.31????

1997-08-22 Thread Juan Jose Casero
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, jon torrez wrote: > boy, your slighly behind :) > > Its up to pre7 -- its too bad that the pre's are having more trouble on > the even note than the development i run 2.1.50 at home just peachy and > here at LBJ High School we run 2.0.30 pre3 with a few little nicks here > an

Re: killing a process

1997-08-22 Thread Oliver Elphick
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, writes: ... > This is very wrong. No matter what happens, a kill -9 should > kill the process. Are there any other signs of a kernel malfunction? > (You may want to reboot). If it happens again, could you supply the > versions of the kernel and of mirror

DUNC

1997-08-22 Thread PATRICK DAHIROC
Hi I recently asked for help concerning PPP dial up and it was suggested that I use DUNC for this. I already have unpacked the source code in my system but when I ran "make" the only thing it did was move the source code to /usr/bin; the code itself was not compiled. Am I forgetting to do some

Star Office, Spell Check, and an Epson LX-80

1997-08-22 Thread Kevin J Poorman
Hi, Few Questions: 1: Star Office has a gallery of clipart, has anyone ever gotten it to work ... 2: Has anyone gotten the Spell check functions of Star Writer to work? 3: I have an Epson LX-80 that was bought when we purchaced our first computer (Apple ][ E) So far As I know this is a bare bon

on bo-updates and Debian incorporation whinnies

1997-08-22 Thread James D. Freels
--- Start of forwarded message --- First, there is an easy way with the current stable version of dselect to determine what effect the packages in bo-updates will have on the typical system. When dselect asks for a local directory of packages, simply give it the directory where your bo-up

Re: about bo-updates ...

1997-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Eloy" == Eloy A Paris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Eloy> I think THIS IS THE PROBLEM with the new scheme: there is not a Eloy> separate directory where you can get all the updates separately, Eloy> you have to go to the stable directory because updates are Eloy> merged directly into the main

Re: PPP dialup problems

1997-08-22 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Chad D. Zimmerman wrote: > > I had ppp working ... installed an eide controller card ... now it seems > my dialup / modem doesn't want to work right. > > Here is what I get in my messages log file when I try to connect: > > Aug 20 21:05:12 localhost pppd[568]: pppd 2.2.0 st

Re: about bo-updates ...

1997-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Carlo" == Carlo U Segre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Carlo> Hello All: I have been following the discussion of the past few Carlo> days with some interest. One thing that strikes me about the Carlo> change in the organization of the stable tree is that I have Carlo> seen no simple instructi

Re: upgrade path

1997-08-22 Thread Joey Hess
Bruce Perens wrote: > When you look at the size of our FTP archive it's clear we need to remove > stuff eventually. I'd be happy to have a site where old stuff could remain > for a much longer time - is anyone still keeping 1.2 on-line? Take a look at ftp://debian.crosslink.net/pub/debian-old/ The

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"john" == john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: john> I understand that. I understand what they are and what they do. john> What I do not understand is why you think that a newbie who just john> installed 1.3 and has gone to the ftp site to upgrade it will be john> able to make any sense out of

Re[2]: Expelling David Cinege from the list

1997-08-22 Thread David_Neuer
___ Subject: Re[2]: Expelling David Cinege from the list From:David Neuer Date:8/22/97 8:53 AM I didn't mean to insult you David (well, maybe to tease a little). I just meant to use sarcasm to indicate my frustr

Re: upgrade path

1997-08-22 Thread joost witteveen
> We want it to be easy for people to upgrade. However, it's currently > difficult for people who had 1.1 on their systems to upgrade to 1.3, > because the best way to do this was to install 1.2 and then 1.3 . You can > go straight from 1.1 to 1.3, but I hear this is much more difficult. > We kept

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-22 Thread john
Bruce writes: > Have you tried dselect's FTP method yet? It does that update > automaticaly. That's why I said it's easy. >From the dslect "help" screen: > ftp - Install using ftp. > Installation using ftp, you must know a ftp site and the correct > directory for a debian distribution. But wha

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-22 Thread john
Bruce writes: > Hamm and Bo are code-names. I understand that. I understand what they are and what they do. What I do not understand is why you think that a newbie who just installed 1.3 and has gone to the ftp site to upgrade it will be able to make any sense out of names like bo-updates. IMHO

Re: shielding from liability

1997-08-22 Thread john
Bruce Perens writes: > We don't need to purchase liability insurance as long as the > corporation's total assets are small. The lack of assets or insurance gives plaintiffs an incentive to try to reach through to the individuals. > Since the corporation has the liability, ... It may not. An emp

Re: adduser and user names containing 8 bits chars

1997-08-22 Thread Falk Hueffner
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 20:52:34 +0200, Laurent Bonnaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >i'm using the latest adduser package from bo-updates and i found that >it does not accept user names containing 8 bits chars. I'm talking >about a user's full name (first name + family name), not short name >(login na

Re: about bo-updates ...

1997-08-22 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Syrus Nemat-Nasser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : In addition, the packages in bo-updates are for use at the user's : discretion--they have not been formally accepted as updates to the stable : distribution AFAIK. I think THIS IS THE PROBLEM with the new scheme: there is not a separate directory wh

Re: shadow and nis

1997-08-22 Thread Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues
Behan Webster writes: > For the life of me I can not seem to get nis to work with shadow > passwords. I can get each to work seperately, but not together. > Can anyone with experience with using these two together please > explain how to set it up properly? I'm stumped. Yes, apparently the c

Re: Where do I get...

1997-08-22 Thread Paul Seelig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Volker Bauer) writes: > Where can I get the latest Debian release on CD in Germany? How much is > the value? > "http://www2.Germany.EU.net/shop/JFL/linux/debian.html"; > Is 500 MB free space only for a Debian filesystem on my hardrive enough? > Can I run Debian with the Lilo b

Re: This ugly policy discussion on debian-user.

1997-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Clint" == Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> (3) The change in the revision name system is truly minor. You >> guys have Clint> I wouldn't say that. If it were truly minor there would have Clint> been no cause for it. Where *did* you learn logic? Only non-minor things hav

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Clint" == Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> A while ago we held a vote on the leadership of the project. The >> developers strongly rejected the idea of a "Roman Senate" where all >> decisions would be voted upon. They prefered to have an elected >> executive and ratified me to Cl

Re: about bo-updates ...

1997-08-22 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Carlo U. Segre wrote: > I have been following the discussion of the past few days with some > interest. One thing that strikes me about the change in the organization > of the stable tree is that I have seen no simple instructions on how to > make use of the updates in the bo

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-22 Thread Dima
OK Dave, here's a fresh one for you: remember LiGNUx? Here's what made him do that: > Note that FSF is the same kind of corporation, a non-profit with a 501(c)3. :) -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Please CC to me when replying to Usenet or a list -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAIL

Re: incorporation

1997-08-22 Thread Rick Hawkins
jan vroonhof wrote, > Rick Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 3) Liability. The corporation is legally a person. If someone got > >the bright idea to sue Debian (for whatever reason, including > >frivolous), individuals would be liable without incorporation. > >Incorporated, ind

about bo-updates ...

1997-08-22 Thread Carlo U. Segre
Hello All: I have been following the discussion of the past few days with some interest. One thing that strikes me about the change in the organization of the stable tree is that I have seen no simple instructions on how to make use of the updates in the bo-updates driectory since they are not li

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-22 Thread Rick Hawkins
Dave Cinege wrote, > Yes you have. I'm saying the work done be the people outside the US is now > asscoiated with a US entity. It's not 'theirs' anymore, while it is in the US. this is not true, in any sense of the word. The difference between debian unincorporated or incorporated makes absol

Re: Printing to a HP Deskjet 870 Cxi

1997-08-22 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Colin R. Telmer wrote: > Does anyone know how to set up a Deskjet 870 Cxi with magicfilter (or > anything else for that matter)? Cheers, Colin. > > Ps. I have no desire for color - could I just use the 550 filter? The Ghostscript printer compatibility web page suggests the c

Proposal: User list forking.

1997-08-22 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
Hello fellow Debian users. I propose that we fork the debian-user list such that there are one or two lists whose content is limited to technical questions and answers. If we had a debian-help list, we could have a rule to keep political/policy discussions off the list. This could be accomplishe

Re: shielding from liability

1997-08-22 Thread Rick Hawkins
bruce wrote, > From: Rick Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > However, were an individual programmer to incure liability (the only > > way I can think of off hand is by deliberately caused harm, such as > > sneaking in a disk eraser), the corporation won't protect that > > individual. > We would like

Re: Linux kernel 2.0.31????

1997-08-22 Thread J. Paul Reed
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Christopher Smith wrote: > J. Paul Reed wrote: > > > On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Dave Wreski wrote: > > > > > > When is 31 going to be finished? There are already pre-31 patches out.. > > > > all the way up to 5. > > > > > > They are up to pre-7 now. Looks like there's still a few

Re: This ugly policy discussion on debian-user.

1997-08-22 Thread Clint Adams
> (3) The change in the revision name system is truly minor. You guys have I wouldn't say that. If it were truly minor there would have been no cause for it. Clearly there was a reason, and it is this reason to which Dave and Paul object, if I interpret correctly. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Dave" == Dave Cinege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dave> Bull. It puts other at odds with the 'officials' in the Dave> project. There is no reason someone couldn't have come up with Dave> this 'stable' release CD on their own. There is no reseason Dave> Bruce could not have done it, and offer

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-22 Thread Clint Adams
> A while ago we held a vote on the leadership of the project. The developers > strongly rejected the idea of a "Roman Senate" where all decisions would be > voted upon. They prefered to have an elected executive and ratified me to As did I. However, I think it's slightly stretching the point to

Re: Printing to a HP Deskjet 870 Cxi

1997-08-22 Thread Colin R. Telmer
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Colin R. Telmer wrote: > Does anyone know how to set up a Deskjet 870 Cxi with magicfilter (or > anything else for that matter)? Cheers, Colin. > > Ps. I have no desire for color - could I just use the 550 filter? Should have tried the 550c before posting - it worked perfect

Where do I get...

1997-08-22 Thread Volker Bauer
Hi, I'm interested in Linux and Debian although I have just very little experience in it. I have some questions: Where can I get the latest Debian release on CD in Germany? How much is the value? Is 500 MB free space only for a Debian filesystem on my hardrive enough? Can I run Debian with the

Printing to a HP Deskjet 870 Cxi

1997-08-22 Thread Colin R. Telmer
Does anyone know how to set up a Deskjet 870 Cxi with magicfilter (or anything else for that matter)? Cheers, Colin. Ps. I have no desire for color - could I just use the 550 filter? -- Colin R. Telmer, Institute of Intergovernmental Relations School of Policy Studies Buildi

Re: SPI & Debian incorporation

1997-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Fire" == Fire Brand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Fire> I have to admit that I like 1.3.1 or 1.3.2 (or even 1.3.2.1) Fire> better than 1.3.r1-fruit-files_your_mom.another-minor-change. The last bit is a wee bit of FUD. Fire> Mainly, pick a numbering system -- *then_stick_with_it*.

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-22 Thread Paul Serice
> >The presence of developers and servers in Germany does not limit the > >ability of the American legal system to reach the developers in the > >U.S. So, yes, despite developers in Germany, the government is, and > >always has been, involved. Think of the loop-hole if all you had to > >do was se

Re: rebuild kernel problem

1997-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Could the 3.0.30 sources have been corrupted? I don't get any of these errors. Also, do you have the following packages installed? manoj from /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz : == Before you go any further,

Re: killing a process

1997-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Ricardo" == Ricardo Muggli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ricardo> This may be off the debian-specific topic but.. I have a Ricardo> mirror process that has been going for a long time. I would Ricardo> like to kill it but it seems to be really stubborn. I have Ricardo> tried : kill -9 pidhere

Re: Debian only like larger businesses

1997-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, For the record: The official CD is not an independent action on part of Bruce Perenes, all the developers (which is another way of saying Debian) decided that it was a Good Thing. I am getting tired of people singling out Bruce for their ranting, and annoyed at people who have not

Re: Linux kernel 2.0.31????

1997-08-22 Thread jon torrez
boy, your slighly behind :) Its up to pre7 -- its too bad that the pre's are having more trouble on the even note than the development i run 2.1.50 at home just peachy and here at LBJ High School we run 2.0.30 pre3 with a few little nicks here and there and its buggy :( --

Re: PPP dialup problems

1997-08-22 Thread Paul Wade
If that new eide card has serial ports, double check your io port and irq settings for conflicts first. I have some cheap i/o ide cards and they can cause all kinds of problems in some systems but work okay in others. On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Chad D. Zimmerman wrote: > I had ppp working ... installed

Re: upgrade path

1997-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Daniel" == Daniel J Mashao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Daniel> On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: >> Bruce Perens wrote: >> >> We want it to be easy for people to upgrade. However, it's >> currently difficult for people who had 1.1 on their systems to >> upgrade to 1.3, because the b

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Dave" == Dave Cinege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> keep their stock up to date. >> AFAIK, people do _work_ on this _product_ in their free time. I >> don't feel to have any moral right to tell them, how they should >> spend it. Dave> When they are acting as the official Debian entity you

Re: killing a process

1997-08-22 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Ricardo Muggli wrote: > > This may be off the debian-specific topic but.. I have a mirror process > that has been going for a long time. I would like to kill it but it seems > to be really stubborn. I have tried : > kill -9 pidhere > but nothing happens to the process. Does anyone have a suggestio

PPP dialup problems

1997-08-22 Thread Chad D. Zimmerman
I had ppp working ... installed an eide controller card ... now it seems my dialup / modem doesn't want to work right. Here is what I get in my messages log file when I try to connect: Aug 20 21:05:12 localhost pppd[568]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 Aug 20 21:05:13 localhost chat[569]: abo

Re: Anybody in for helping a new debian user with aic7xxx ?

1997-08-22 Thread Dieter Rohlfing
Hi Mark, thanks a lot for your reply. The 2 PCs are SCSI-only systems, HDs and CDROM are SCSI-2. Here are the main hardware components: - Mobo Shuttle HOT-419 (VLB with Opti chipset), AMD486/133, 32 MB RAM - Adaptec AHA2842 (IRQ 11) - ATI Graphics Turbo (Mach32 mit 2 MB VRAM) - NE2000 compatiple

Re: Anybody in for helping a new debian user with aic7xxx ?

1997-08-22 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Dieter Rohlfing, you wrote: > > Tim Sailer wrote: > > > Do you have an early 2940 in the machine? I had this same problem, > > and had to get a BIOS upgrade from Adaptek. > > It's revision B with BIOS 1.21 That's fairly recent I think.. > > The 2940 and it's chipset are c

wu-ftp

1997-08-22 Thread Paul Miller
I'm running wu-ftpd-academ 2.4.2.13-0 and I'm wondering if it can be configured like this: anonymous sees: /pub, /bin, /etc, /users (can't decend), and /lib users see: /pub, /bin, /etc, /users, and /lib I don't want users downloading my whole system. -Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILIN

Re: Anybody in for helping a new debian user with aic7xxx ?

1997-08-22 Thread Dieter Rohlfing
Tim Sailer wrote: > Do you have an early 2940 in the machine? I had this same problem, > and had to get a BIOS upgrade from Adaptek. It's revision B with BIOS 1.21 > The 2940 and it's chipset are considered beta, at best. I have a > production system with a 4 month old 2940 in it that runs > w

locale

1997-08-22 Thread Paul Miller
I keep getting these messages in X: Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged I have locales 2.0.4-1 installed what can I do to fix this? -Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Forking debian-user?

1997-08-22 Thread Bruce Perens
> The discussions have been lively and interesting, by the way. Flames were > (needlessly) thrown. Tell me :-) . I will indeed split the list pretty soon. > Parenthetically, I am still confused by the fact that Debian has it's own > way with kernel sources and headers Our way becomes the stan

Re: SPI & Debian incorporation

1997-08-22 Thread Daniel J. Mashao
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Fire Brand wrote: > Thanks Paul - > > Putting SPI's articles of incorporation and bylaws on the > website sounds like a very good idea. That, and listing the > officers and the board of directors will allow anyone that > wants to know to check it out. If this information

Re: Using Linux with Win95

1997-08-22 Thread Bruce Perens
From: "Alistair Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 1.Will it overwrite my execisting boot sector? It'll ask before it writes the MBR. You can say no and boot with a floppy, or you can install a boot manager and get it to boot Debian from the partition boot block. Our MBR will also boot Windows 95

Re: upgrade path

1997-08-22 Thread Daniel J. Mashao
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: > Bruce Perens wrote: > > We want it to be easy for people to upgrade. However, it's currently > difficult for people who had 1.1 on their systems to upgrade to 1.3, > because the best way to do this was to install 1.2 and then 1.3 . You can I understand y

Re: D-Link ethernet and Pioneer CD-ROM

1997-08-22 Thread Bruce Perens
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karsten Bolding) > Just got a new PC and wanted to install Linux on the second disk. I succeded > in installing the base system after disabling the Pioneer ATAPI CD (DR-A24X) > since I realised it was PnP. Isn't there a way to turn off PnP in your BIOS? > Then I wanted t

Re: Anybody in for helping a new debian user with aic7xxx ?

1997-08-22 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Tim Sailer wrote: > The 2940 and it's chipset are considered beta, at best. True. I *always* install the latest driver which is rarely in the current Linux kernel. For example, the default Adaptec 2940U driver (aic7xxx) in 2.0.30 does not do shared IRQs without a tiny patch to aic7xxx

Re: Anybody in for helping a new debian user with aic7xxx ?

1997-08-22 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Dieter Rohlfing, you wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > since 2 weeks I'm trying to install the debian linux distribution, first > attempt was with 1.2.8, second with 1.3.1. Both resulted in crashing > down during the boot process (look for subject "install problem: aic7xxx > encou

SPI & Debian incorporation

1997-08-22 Thread Fire Brand
Thanks Paul - Putting SPI's articles of incorporation and bylaws on the website sounds like a very good idea. That, and listing the officers and the board of directors will allow anyone that wants to know to check it out. If this information is available to everyone it will kill some of the t

upgrade path

1997-08-22 Thread Bruce Perens
Bruce Perens wrote: > > You could try lobbying Guy Maor (gently, please). But there has to be a > date beyond even updates for an old release get purged. We want the mirror > space for more current stuff, and with $4 CDs nobody has much of an excuse > for missing upgrades any more. > From: Joost

Re: Updating with dselect

1997-08-22 Thread Joost Kooij
Shaleh wrote: > > Paul mentioned this and I have been wondering -- what is the best > procedure to update from an ftp via dselect? How do I upgrade a package > I already have installed? I have only seen an add and a remove option. > Where is 'upgrade'? I am now a month old Debian user and I sti

Prompt in Bash

1997-08-22 Thread Daniel Doro Ferrante
Hi All ! Does anybody know how do I change colors in a bash prompt. I can do it in tcsh, but no succes with bash... (even after reading the man). Thanks in advance. Daniel.

Re: helping a user with aic7xxx ? [Rescue disk recommendation]

1997-08-22 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Dieter Rohlfing wrote: > I can't imagine, that none of the debian users has an Adaptec controller > in his PC. Where is the excellence of the debian distribution, when it's > unable to install on a conventional hardware, where Caldera, Suse, > RedHat and Slackware can without any problems. > > D

expulsion

1997-08-22 Thread ioannis
Here we are again today, true to our agreement of yesterday, with David Dave Cinege and Paul Wade. For Homer says that all the gods, and especially the god of strangers, are companions of the meek and just, and visit the good and evil among men. And may not your companions be two of those highe

Re: new install

1997-08-22 Thread Paolo Nenzi
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Karsten Bolding wrote: > Just got a new computer with 2 Quantum Fireball ST2.1A and a Pioneer ATAPI CD > (DR-A24X) I had a similar problem with a couple of Western Digital HDs and an ATAPI CDrom. I had to phisically change their connection to the ide ports: i have connected

Re: Debian only like larger businesses

1997-08-22 Thread Joost Kooij
Paul Wade wrote: > > You are way out of line. I only sell Debian and I only use Debian in my > 'small' business. I'm beginning to think your resignation is what will be > essential to Debian's survival, but maybe a public apology to *all* the > Debian users is enough. You owe it to them because yo

Re: shielding from liability

1997-08-22 Thread Paul Serice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I don't really think there is much risk, though. Where's the duty? > > Has there ever actually been a negligence suit over free software? > This is a good question. I would imagine the answer is no, but . . . Suppose, Bruce is "going to drive tomorrow to Santa Cruz

Re: .bashrc

1997-08-22 Thread Ted Harding
( Re Message From: E.L. Meijer ) > > Hi all, > > does anyone know which (and where) is the *system-wide* .bashrc file? > > Let me quote from the bash man page! > > [ snip ] > --

Re: Forking debian-user?

1997-08-22 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
> > > The Debian watchword has been from early on, a system that can be painlessly > > upgraded. At least twice, this watchword has failed---when a.out moved over > > to ELF, and when libc5 moved over to libc6. In between these big changes, > > have been an endless stream of smaller changes. >

Re: shadow and nis

1997-08-22 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Behan Webster wrote: > > For the life of me I can not seem to get nis to work with shadow > passwords. I can get each to work seperately, but not together. > Can anyone with experience with using these two together please > explain how to set it up properly? I'm stumped. Is your server really a

Re: [solved][tetex]

1997-08-22 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Will Lowe wrote: > I'm still confused as to why "locate" would report a nonexistent file in a > directory which is empty, tho. Does it read the packages file or > something? It uses a database built with a crontab entry. If your system isn't left on all the time, you may w

Re: A little consideration, please?

1997-08-22 Thread Stephen Witt
> I am driving about 100 (non-deductable) miles each way and am giving up > one of my vacation days for this, just as I am giving up vacation days > to speak at the IN Conference in Germany. I gave up vacation days to speak > at Linux Expo, too. I think you should give up vacation days to go to G

Re: .bashrc

1997-08-22 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Bruno O. M. Simoes wrote: > Hi all, > does anyone know which (and where) is the *system-wide* .bashrc file? > Thanks in advances > Bruno Closest thing I can think of if /etc/profile. You can check for the correct shell using a case: case "$0" in -bash | -sh) # do stuff h

Re: .bashrc

1997-08-22 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
> > Hi all, > does anyone know which (and where) is the *system-wide* .bashrc file? Let me quote from the bash man page! INVOCATION A login shell is one whose first character of argument zero is a -,

Re: POV-ray?

1997-08-22 Thread Stephen Witt
> Hello, > > Does anyone who uses POV know why I cann't see http://www.pov.org/ ? > Can you see it or not? > Yes, http://www.pov.org/ gets me there. It seems to be an alias (if that's the right DNS term) for http://www.pbs.org/pov/index.html. =

Re: POV-ray?

1997-08-22 Thread Stephen Witt
> Does anyone who uses POV know why I cann't see http://www.pov.org/ ? > Can you see it or not? > Actually, http://www.pov.org is a web site for P.O.V. Interactive, an award winning PBS series or something. I guess I should actually look at the page before I report success. Sorry... ===

Re: Forking debian-user?

1997-08-22 Thread stick
> > The Debian watchword has been from early on, a system that can be painlessly > upgraded. At least twice, this watchword has failed---when a.out moved over > to ELF, and when libc5 moved over to libc6. In between these big changes, > have been an endless stream of smaller changes. > For th

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V97 #648

1997-08-22 Thread Karell Ste-Marie
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