Re: time to split the list?

> Some newbies tell me they find debian-user intimidating due to the high > level of technical discussion that sometimes goes on there. Is it time > to split the list? About 2 years ago I proposed a separate list just for > people trying to install the system. At the time we did not have enough > t

Re: newsgroup creation RFD - draft

> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) > > moderated group comp.os.linux.debian.announce > moderated group comp.os.linux.debian.install > moderated group comp.os.linux.debian.nontech > moderated group comp.os.linux.debian.tech > moderated group comp.

Re: Upgrading to un-debianized kernel

Miro> I recently upgraded to the 2.0.17 kernel, although this problem Miro> occured with other non-debian kernels. I now get, on boot, and in Miro> my daemon log when use diald and pppd, Miro> Can't locate module net-pf-4 Miro> """""" -5 Boris> it's aliases Bor

Re: time to split the list?

At 01:58 PM 9/5/96 PDT, you wrote: >Some newbies tell me they find debian-user intimidating due to the high >level of technical discussion that sometimes goes on there. Is it time >to split the list? About 2 years ago I proposed a separate list just for >people trying to install the system. At the

Re: time to split the list?

On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: |>Date: Thu, 5 Sep 96 13:58 PDT |>From: Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org |>Subject: time to split the list? |> |>Some newbies tell me they find debian-user intimidating due to the high |>level of technical discussion that s

Re: Upgrading to un-debianized kernel

On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Miro Torrielli wrote: |>Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:40:59 +0200 (MET DST) |>From: Miro Torrielli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org |>Subject: Upgrading to un-debianized kernel |> |>I recently upgraded to the 2.0.17 kernel, although this problem occured with |>

Re: time to split the list?

In your email to me, Bruce Perens, you wrote: > > Some newbies tell me they find debian-user intimidating due to the high > level of technical discussion that sometimes goes on there. Is it time > to split the list? About 2 years ago I proposed a separate list just for > people trying to install t

Re: time to split the list?

A very good idea. However, it might be a good idea to retain the name debian-user as well, particularly since there is now a news group of that name. > I would propose: > > debian-install > debian-nontechnical > debian-technical -- Thomas R Behrndt

Kernel customizing package?

I am very impressed with the new (Aug 25) debian FAQ. A couple of questions: 1. Two pointers at the top level of www.debian.org point to an older version of the FAQ (it identifies the latest version as 0.93R6). The current version is available if I go to the ftp interface and look under doc

time to split the list?

Some newbies tell me they find debian-user intimidating due to the high level of technical discussion that sometimes goes on there. Is it time to split the list? About 2 years ago I proposed a separate list just for people trying to install the system. At the time we did not have enough traffic for

Upgrading to un-debianized kernel

I recently upgraded to the 2.0.17 kernel, although this problem occured with other non-debian kernels. I now get, on boot, and in my daemon log when use diald and pppd, Can't locate module net-pf-4 """""" -5 The problem is not terminal, but it does bug me. I thought the problem

Re: Ash script, tutorials, etc

> [big uuencoded file deleted] If you are curious, this is a PPP configuration script we've been working on for Debian 1.2 . Rich is going to Japan and dumped it to the list so it wouldn't get lost. Bruce

Re: Problems with Base Install Disks.

The boot-floppies package contains all scripts used to build boot floppies. What's wrong with base14-3.bin ? It's been on the FTP site for at least a month with no other complaint. Thanks Bruce

Re: Compile error

J.H.M.Dassen wrote: > > > as86 -0 -a -o bootsect.o bootsect.s > > make[3] as86: command not found. > > > Any ideas what am doing wrong? > Nothing. You just don't have a package installed that is required to build > the kernel: > > bin86 (29 Kb) > > Section: devel > Version: 0.3-1 Last modified:

Re: Latex documentation for beginners?

Hi you can find some manuals in the /usr/lib/texmf/texmf/doc/latex/general there is a manual called guide.dvi anyway you could look for the latexcook book in starlink home page. http://star-www.rl.ac.uk if you want I can send you several manuals. cheers miguel On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Joha

Re: emacs troubles

On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: |>Date: Wed, 4 Sep 96 22:14 PDT |>From: Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |>To: Me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] |>Cc: Debain |>Subject: Re: emacs troubles |> |>> emacs is an editor with text/graphic interface |>> so u can compile emacs with out gra

Latex documentation for beginners?

I relatively new to Linux and totally new to TeX and LateX. I downloaded Debian 1.1 and enough of the TeX an LateX-files to get LateX running on my computer. My problem is that the documentation supposes a fair degree of knowledge of the philosophy behind TeX and LateX. As a tradisional Wordperf

Calling all seesat5 users!

If you are using seesat5, you will be interested to note that I have acquired a VERY complete master.tle from a close associate of mine. This tle file contains amature elements for many of the "non-public" satellites. (read "secret") These elements have been constructed by the many world wide amatu

netscape 3.0 has a bug

This is not unique to Debian, but I would like to confirm in this forum before posting to Netscape corporate. I have verified a bug in Netscape 3.0, 3.0gold, and a few betas released before 3.0 (don't know specifically). The bug is: in printing the screen either to a postscript file or directly

Can't route to ethernet

Dear all, I'm trying to install Debian-1.1 via NFS, but I've got some serious trouble with the ethernet connection. I'm using a WD8003 (selected the module 'wd' during base installation), which seems to be found correctly. 'ifconfig eth0' prints out the correct data. Now the trouble begins: A "

Re: stuff Glenn wants to clean up, and how to do it

Glenn, In addition to Bruce's good advice for working with people, I'll add + Understand that people may have different goals than you, and that their goals may be just as valid as what you have on your agenda. This is part of why it's good to participate in a group for a long time b

Re: Where can I find lucid Emacs

On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Miguel A. Avillez wrote: > > Hello > > Where can I find Lucid Emacs? Is it Xemacs? if it is where can i find it > for linux? > I'm not sure where Lucid emacs fits in the group. Xemacs is available at sunsite in the apps path. You can download it from there, or you could buy

Ash script, tutorials, etc

Bruce, Sorry I'm sending this to the list, but I'm having a _lot_ of trouble connecting to work and I have to get this out before I leave. I don't have the other addresses available from here. Included is a uuencoded gziped tar file that includes the script and some tutorials/help files. I hop

Re: Where can I find lucid Emacs

On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Miguel A. Avillez wrote: |>Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 09:24:23 + (GMT) |>From: "Miguel A. Avillez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org |>Subject: Where can I find lucid Emacs |> |> |>Hello |> |>Where can I find Lucid Emacs? Is it Xemacs? if it is where can i f

Re: popclient, procmail, and elm

I had this problem when I first setup procmail with elm & popclient. I deleted the offending folder and let procmail/elm recreate the folder. Since then I haven't had the problem. If this doesn't fix your problem, let me know and I'll send you copies of my setup. > I seem to be having problems w

Re: Compile error

> as86 -0 -a -o bootsect.o bootsect.s > make[3] as86: command not found. > Any ideas what am doing wrong? Nothing. You just don't have a package installed that is required to build the kernel: bin86 (29 Kb) Section: devel Version: 0.3-1 Last modified: Fri Apr 26 10:47:00 1996 Architecture: i3

Where can I find lucid Emacs

Hello Where can I find Lucid Emacs? Is it Xemacs? if it is where can i find it for linux? miguel

Problems with Base Install Disks.

I tried to install the latest dest' of debian 1.1.8 . But there is a problem with the last Base disk . base14-3.bin So how do a make those disks by my self ? there if a tar file containing all the files that shuld be in these disks : base1_1.tgz The Disks are in ../buzz-updates/disks-i386/

Re: How to migrate a Debian system to another hard drive?

Mark Eichin: > and note that unlike tar, cp -a will actually *handle* pathnames over > 100 characters GNU tar does that as well. -- Please read before mailing me. Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list. pgp3uzEpYi8ov.pgp De

Re: latex: can't find default format file

> "Philippe" == Philippe Troin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Philippe> If you use latex, you'll probably have problems with Philippe> font later, and try to download mfbasfnt_1.0-5 from the Philippe> rex/binary/tex section and mfdcfnt_1.0-1_all.deb from Philippe> the non-free/bin

Compile error

I have linux 2.0.6 running. I installed it from the kernel image I got fro ftp.debian.org using dselect. Since it was configured for a different hardware setup than mine I decided to reconfigure. I got a new kernel source 2.0.13 and unpacked it in /usr/src/linux. I also picked up make-kpkg 2.0.3.

Re: Comments about FHS -and- Re: Cross posting per request

Glenn Bily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Folks, > [This should spark a debate :)] > > What is the fine line between a library such as libc.so.5, libm.so.5 or > libcurses.a and just a compiled object file? Please do not try to "spark debate" (troll) on the FHS discussion mailing list. I do not ap

stuff Glenn wants to clean up, and how to do it

From: Glenn Bily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What is the fine line between a library such as libc.so.5, libm.so.5 or > libcurses.a and just a compiled object file? If I had my druthers I'd clean lots of stuff like that up. The task is a lot more complicated than that, because you are working with other

Re: How to migrate a Debian system to another hard drive?

From: Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > and note that unlike tar, cp -a will actually *handle* pathnames over > 100 characters Well, we've beaten this dead horse for long enough. I think GNU tar will handle over-100-character filenames. There is an extension to the tar format to handle them. Howe

Re: emacs troubles

> emacs is an editor with text/graphic interface > so u can compile emacs with out graphic-x interface Generally, if there is an option to compile a program with an X interface as well as its text interface, we do so for Debian. This requires _only_ that the (reasonably small) X runtime library be

Re: Comments about FHS -and- Re: Cross posting per request

Folks, [This should spark a debate :)] What is the fine line between a library such as libc.so.5, libm.so.5 or libcurses.a and just a compiled object file? --Glenn

Re: Cross posting per request

Larry, They intend to implement /opt as a major mount point. They also plan to make /usr/local a very dangerous place to play. :) I hope that Debian will make a policy of staying out of /usr/local. This is way it is shaping up for each application: Beside the binary in /usr/bin or /bin. There wi

Re: emacs troubles

yes, just install the "xlib" package -- it's small, just enough shared libraries to let the program run. It won't actually *use* the X code if you don't have $DISPLAY set, and it is in the end cleaner than having seperate packages for X and non-X versions...

Re: Cross posting per request

Greg Hudson writes: -> >> In addition, the admin's life would only be made easier. -> -> > "Let's see where is perl stuffof course: /usr/perl" -> -> Of course it looks easier if you only ask one question. -> -> "Where are the operating system binaries that should go in users' -> paths?" ->

Re: How to migrate a Debian system to another hard drive?

and note that unlike tar, cp -a will actually *handle* pathnames over 100 characters (of course, dpkg won't have installed any, but they may be around for other reasons...) I used the tar approach for years, but cp -a turns out to be much more reliable (and I can fall back to tar if I have to -- k

smail problem

I have some computers that don't have IP addresses, and am using IP masqerading to connect them to the internet. I want to set up smail so all outgoing mail from these computers looks likes it came from kite.preferred.com, so people can reply to it. I set up a /etc/smail/routers like this: smart_h

Re: WABI

Just to get this settled, Caldera has licesned the wabi source code from SUN, and they are porting it over to linux. It most likely will cost money, because Sun doesn't just give away the source code. If you want more information on it, I would suggest you look at Caldera's web page http://ww

Re: Problem unpackagin Debian-1.1.4

In your email to me, Bruce Perens, you wrote: > > [installation of gcc fails due to binutils dependency that dselect should > have taken care of] > > I had this happen to me with two system installations I was running of > 1.1.4 (from a CD I wrote a few weeks ago). Has anyone seen this on a > la

Re: Problem unpackagin Debian-1.1.4

Hello, > I had this happen to me with two system installations I was running of > 1.1.4 (from a CD I wrote a few weeks ago). Has anyone seen this on a > later system than 1.1.4? I have seen this a few times with 1.1.0-2. My question if it is possible was answered with no :) Oh Well, glad the Prob

X11 fonts missing from distribution?

I've installed X11, but I find that I cannot run applications that need courier and helvetica fonts. I've looked in the X11 and Debian faqs and readmes, but I haven't been able to find any info on where to get fonts and how to install them. Can anyone help me out? Regards, Mike -- Michael A. M

Re: WABI

> borik the Boris Yati Beletsky wrote: > > > > On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Brian C. White wrote: > > > > |>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > |>Subject: Re: WABI > > |> > > |>> What is the present status of WABI for Linux? > > |> > > |>I've built "wine" package for debian and update it occasionally. > > i am so

Re: Cross posting per request

On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Philippe Troin wrote: > On Wed, 04 Sep 1996 11:04:06 CDT David Engel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > There is a curses-based version of Tk, but I don't have any idea of > > how well it works. > > Do you know where we could find this thing ? Might be interesting... It's at ft

Re: WABI

On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Jim Worthington wrote: > I stumbled across a newsgroup called linux.dev.wabi. I didn't see any > mention of wine, but I did get the impression that Sun wabi software was > being recompiled for Linux. At the time I thought that it was strange > that Sun would release their sou

Re: Cross posting per request

On Wed, 04 Sep 1996 11:04:06 CDT David Engel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Bruce Perens writes: > > It's unfortunate that the printer config stuff (and other stuff from > > Red Hat) is written in TCL/TK. One thing we _don't_ assume is that the > > user has X (or even a VGA card - it might be a se

RE: fvwm-95 - Making progress, but not there yet

On 15:51:24 Jim Worthington wrote: > It's complaining about a missing "rplay" library >Where can this package be found? Don't know, and didn't see this when brought up fvwm95. >I tried running fvwm95 but it crashed on startup producing no messages. >Is it likely that the missing rplay library

Re: WABI

I knew I was keeping this around for a reason... > Subject: Wabi on Linux : : Info on Wabi for Linux: : : - : The Caldera Solutions CD : : Wabi will ship on the Caldera Solutions CD, which will be included : with every shipment of the Caldera Network Desktop