If you are using seesat5, you will be interested to note that I have acquired a VERY complete master.tle from a close associate of mine. This tle file contains amature elements for many of the "non-public" satellites. (read "secret") These elements have been constructed by the many world wide amature satellite observers, and some of them are quite interesting. The one that has caught my eye is called TiPS. This is a pair of satellites coupled together by a tether. It is in fairly high orbit, so the elements will be stable (correct) for quite some time. As a high orbit satellite it is a binocular object, but well worth the trouble to see. If you have any interest in these elements, please contact me by private e-mail and I will ship them to you. If you haven't tried seesat5 yet, and are interested in satellite observation, take a look at this package.
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