Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-06-09 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gürkan Sengün <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hi Miles, > > > >> I expect one potential problem is that of user confusion -- if > >> somebody sees an "emacs.app" package they'll probably think it's at > >> least a semi-recent version of emacs. > > > >

Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-05-01 Thread Jérôme Marant
Gürkan Sengün <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi Miles, > >> I expect one potential problem is that of user confusion -- if >> somebody sees an "emacs.app" package they'll probably think it's at >> least a semi-recent version of emacs. > > Wait you think this 20 version is not semi-recent? > What do

Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-05-01 Thread Gürkan Sengün
Hi Miles, > I expect one potential problem is that of user confusion -- if > somebody sees an "emacs.app" package they'll probably think it's at > least a semi-recent version of emacs. Wait you think this 20 version is not semi-recent? What do you think is this, then? http://www.linuks.mine.nu/op

Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-05-01 Thread Jérôme Marant
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I expect one potential problem is that of user confusion -- if > somebody sees an "emacs.app" package they'll probably think it's at > least a semi-recent version of emacs. For the same reason, dealing > with bugs becomes more complicated. I personay thi

Re: Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-05-01 Thread Miles Bader
I expect one potential problem is that of user confusion -- if somebody sees an "emacs.app" package they'll probably think it's at least a semi-recent version of emacs. For the same reason, dealing with bugs becomes more complicated. -Miles -- Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

Re: Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-04-26 Thread Adrian Robert
Facts about Emacs 20: 1/ it is no longer supported upstream 2/ it had Release Critical bugs in Debian 3/ it has been removed from the Debian archive because of both 1/ and 2/ Three good reasons for it not to come back in Debian in any way. OK, makes sense. When/if Emacs-on-Aqua / Emacs.app is up

Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-04-26 Thread Jérôme Marant
Adrian Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, Hi, >> If you want to see Emacs for GNUstep in Debian some day, please talk to >> emacs-on-aqua people and ask them to work for its inclusion in the >> CVS trunk (there already exists a Carbon port). > > As mentioned above, this is planned. Howeve

Re: Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-04-26 Thread Adrian Robert
Hi, Sorry for the late response here, I just saw this thread. Err, from the Web site: "The port is based on GNU Emacs 20.7, which is one behind the latest version. Emacs 21 added mostly UI features, not core editing functionality. The UI is nicer though and furthermore some Lisp packages have start

Re: Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-04-26 Thread Adrian Robert
Hi, Sorry for the late response here, I just saw this thread. Err, from the Web site: "The port is based on GNU Emacs 20.7, which is one behind the latest version. Emacs 21 added mostly UI features, not core editing functionality. The UI is nicer though and furthermore some Lisp packages have start

Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-04-24 Thread Miles Bader
On 4/25/05, Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "The port is based on GNU Emacs 20.7, which is one behind the latest > version. Emacs 21 added mostly UI features, not core editing > functionality. I think this description vastly understates the difference. Emacs has seen a huge number of n

Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-04-24 Thread Jérôme Marant
Gürkan Sengün <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello > >> > I plan to package emacs for GNUstep for Debian: >> > http://emacs-on-aqua.sourceforge.net/ >> > Do you think we need to coordinate anything together? > > I have a first package here, if you can try and give hints/patches > to improve it, tha

Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-04-24 Thread Jérôme Marant
Mikhail Gusarov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > JM> Emacs has never been dependent on any desktop environment so far > JM> (KDE, GNOME, XFCE) and current Emacs packages work fine on all > JM> those environments. > > Treat it as the toolkit, like Emacs/gtk or Emacs/

Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-04-24 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: JM> Emacs has never been dependent on any desktop environment so far JM> (KDE, GNOME, XFCE) and current Emacs packages work fine on all JM> those environments. Treat it as the toolkit, like Emacs/gtk or Emacs/xaw. -- Mikhail Gusarov ICQ UIN: 111575219 JID: [EMAIL

Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-04-24 Thread Jérôme Marant
Gürkan Sengün <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello Hi, >> > I plan to package emacs for GNUstep for Debian: >> > http://emacs-on-aqua.sourceforge.net/ >> > Do you think we need to coordinate anything together? > > I have a first package here, if you can try and give hints/patches > to improve it,

Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-04-24 Thread Gürkan Sengün
Hello > > I plan to package emacs for GNUstep for Debian: > > http://emacs-on-aqua.sourceforge.net/ > > Do you think we need to coordinate anything together? I have a first package here, if you can try and give hints/patches to improve it, that'd be cool. i haven't used any emacs things of debia