Re: GPL V2 and GPLv3

2007-09-05 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Toby Speight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 0> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > 0> Ben L. Pfaff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ("Ben") wrote: > > Ben> I think that you may be confusing GPLv3 and the GFDL. The GFDL > Ben> is the license with optional Invariant Sections. The GPLv3 does > Ben> not have

Re: GPL V2 and GPLv3

2007-09-05 Thread Toby Speight
0> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 0> Ben L. Pfaff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ("Ben") wrote: Ben> I think that you may be confusing GPLv3 and the GFDL. The GFDL Ben> is the license with optional Invariant Sections. The GPLv3 does Ben> not have any concept with that name. Absolutely right - I was

Re: GPL V2 and GPLv3

2007-09-05 Thread Ben Pfaff
Toby Speight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I believe I chose GPL v2 for the above (I have a healthy distrust of > making commitments to future unknowns). Is it fair to say that GPL v3 > with no Invariant Sections is reasonably closely equivalent to GPL v2? I think that you may be confusing GPLv3

Re: GPL V2 and GPLv3

2007-09-05 Thread Milan Zamazal
> "PSG" == Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: PSG> Milan Zamazal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> When I met a proprietary Elisp program several years ago and >> wondered about this phenomenon on an Emacs mailing list, it was >> explained to me that a program needn't be

Re: GPL V2 and GPLv3

2007-09-05 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Milan Zamazal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "PSG" == Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > PSG> I thought this was a fairly clear-cut issue, but people on > PSG> -legal seem to be saying that you can use a (possibly > PSG> interpreted instead of linked) GPL'ed library

Re: GPL V2 and GPLv3

2007-09-05 Thread Milan Zamazal
> "PSG" == Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: PSG> I thought this was a fairly clear-cut issue, but people on PSG> -legal seem to be saying that you can use a (possibly PSG> interpreted instead of linked) GPL'ed library with code of any PSG> license, so there's no pr

Re: GPL V2 and GPLv3

2007-09-05 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Toby Speight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I believe I chose GPL v2 for the above (I have a healthy distrust of > > making commitments to future unknowns). > > It seems vaguely absurd to worry about such things given the small size > of the package. I d

Re: GPL V2 and GPLv3

2007-09-05 Thread Miles Bader
Toby Speight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I believe I chose GPL v2 for the above (I have a healthy distrust of > making commitments to future unknowns). It seems vaguely absurd to worry about such things given the small size of the package. -Miles -- 97% of everything is grunge -- To UNSUBSC

Re: GPL V2 and GPLv3

2007-09-05 Thread Toby Speight
0> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 0> Peter S. Galbraith mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ("Peter") wrote: Peter> For the source emacs-goodies-el package, the only files affected are: Peter> Peter> , Peter> | ;;; home-end.el --- Alternative Home and End commands. Peter> | ;; Copyright 1996 Kai Grossj

Re: GPL V2 and GPLv3

2007-09-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Probable okay, but doesn't specify a version number at all: > , > |;;; minibuf-electric.el -- Electric minibuffer behavior from XEmacs. [...] > |;; GPL. > ` Although it is probably worth checking with the authors in any case, you might note

Re: GPL V2 and GPLv3

2007-09-04 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This isn't strictly an Emacs isuue, but it certainly affects us... > > > > As I understand it, the GPL v3 is more strict then the GPL v2 and thus > > is incompatible. Is that correct? > > It seems so,

Re: GPL V2 and GPLv3

2007-09-04 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Tatsuya Kinoshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that even if distribution of *.elc file should be licensed > under GPLv3, *.el file under non-GPLv3 can be distributed, because > locally installation and byte-compilation are not limited by GPLv3. I disagree. It's not simply about byte-comp

Re: GPL V2 and GPLv3

2007-09-04 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Tatsuya Kinoshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Cc: debian-legal) I have redistribuated the original email I sent to -emacsen to -legal, for proper context. Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: GPL V2 and GPLv3

2007-09-04 Thread Tatsuya Kinoshita
(Cc: debian-legal) On September 4, 2007 at 6:43PM +0200, svenjoac (at gmx.de) wrote: > > So if we have any such elisp code in Debian, should we exclude > > installation and byte-compilation for versions of Emacs that are > > licensed under the GPL v3? I presume this includes emacs-snapshot and >

Re: GPL V2 and GPLv3

2007-09-04 Thread Sven Joachim
Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This isn't strictly an Emacs isuue, but it certainly affects us... > > As I understand it, the GPL v3 is more strict then the GPL v2 and thus > is incompatible. Is that correct? It seems so, see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#v2v3Compatib