Re: Gnus Manual License

2006-10-06 Thread David Kastrup
Daniel Brockman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> [...] For example, GFDL-hostile entities like Debian will >> be free to distribute the material GPL-only, meaning that >> it will become impossible to reasonably create >> printed copies. > > It is impossi

Re: Gnus Manual License

2006-10-06 Thread Daniel Brockman
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] For example, GFDL-hostile entities like Debian will > be free to distribute the material GPL-only, meaning that > it will become impossible to reasonably create > printed copies. It is impossible to reasonably create printed copies of GPLed manual

Re: Gnus Manual License

2006-10-06 Thread David Kastrup
Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 08:35:19 +0200, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Huh? Are you saying that it's OK to publish some random manual, >>> and state on the cover that it is "A GNU Manual", when it is,

Re: Gnus Manual License

2006-10-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 17:09:49 +0200, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 11:34:13 +0200, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> said: >> >>> If I were in the position of a Debian maintainer (which I am not), >>> I would consi

Re: Gnus Manual License

2006-10-06 Thread David Kastrup
Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:24:30 +0200, Simon Josefsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this * software must display the following acknowledgment: >>>

Re: Gnus Manual License

2006-10-06 Thread Hubert Chan
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:24:30 +0200, Simon Josefsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this * >>> software must display the following acknowledgment: >> >> This does not place any conditions on the d

Re: Gnus Manual License

2006-10-06 Thread Hubert Chan
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 08:35:19 +0200, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Huh? Are you saying that it's OK to publish some random manual, and >> state on the cover that it is "A GNU Manual", when it is, in fact, >> NOT a GNU manual? Is the FSF OK wi

Re: Gnus Manual License

2006-10-06 Thread Hubert Chan
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 11:25:52 +0300, Yavor Doganov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > В Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:41:05 -0400, Hubert Chan написа: >> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:54:05 +0200, Simon Josefsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> said: >>> I believe the license clause is annoying, but, as for OpenSSL, does >>> not m

Re: Gnus Manual License

2006-10-06 Thread David Kastrup
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 11:34:13 +0200, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> If I were in the position of a Debian maintainer (which I am not), I >> would consider GFDLed documentation with the standard GNU project >> cover texts in their _curren

Re: Gnus Manual License

2006-10-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 11:34:13 +0200, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > If I were in the position of a Debian maintainer (which I am not), I > would consider GFDLed documentation with the standard GNU project > cover texts in their _current_ form sufficient for inclusion into > main as long

Re: Gnus Manual License

2006-10-06 Thread Simon Josefsson
Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this >> * software must display the following acknowledgment: > > This does not place any conditions on the distribution or modification > of the work itself. It only places conditions on aux

Re: Gnus Manual License

2006-10-06 Thread David Kastrup
Yavor Doganov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Note that during the last GFDL discussion on -vote (prior to the GR) > Anton Zinoviev and I contacted RMS about some clarifications. He > believes that a manual might be non-free for someone, if it contains > a long enough list with lots of invariant se

Re: Gnus Manual License

2006-10-06 Thread David Kastrup
Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:16:59 +0200, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 23:09:15 +0200, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>> Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>

Re: Gnus Manual License

2006-10-06 Thread David Kastrup
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:54:05 +0200, Simon Josefsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> I believe the license clause is annoying, but, as for OpenSSL, does >> not make it impossible to use the licensed material freely, and in >> particular, should not pre

Re: Gnus Manual License

2006-10-06 Thread Yavor Doganov
В Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:41:05 -0400, Hubert Chan написа: > On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:54:05 +0200, Simon Josefsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> I believe the license clause is annoying, but, as for OpenSSL, does >> not make it impossible to use the licensed material freely, and in >> particular, should