Re: Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-04-26 Thread Adrian Robert
Facts about Emacs 20: 1/ it is no longer supported upstream 2/ it had Release Critical bugs in Debian 3/ it has been removed from the Debian archive because of both 1/ and 2/ Three good reasons for it not to come back in Debian in any way. OK, makes sense. When/if Emacs-on-Aqua / Emacs.app is up

Re: Questions about emacs-snapshot (and also a small patch)

2005-04-26 Thread Miles Bader
Daniel Brockman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (I also realize that Miles did not indent to start an argument about > this, and for all I know loathes the `changes --diffs' spelling as > much as anyone.) FWIW, while I don't loathe `.. changes --diffs', I do like plain `... diff' better. In practic

Re: Questions about emacs-snapshot (and also a small patch)

2005-04-26 Thread Jérôme Marant
Daniel Brockman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wrote: ... > I'd probably be better if these were added a bit more automatically on > a bit lower level; in a word, they should be hardcoded. As far as I > can tell, they are somewhat hardcoded in the Debian emacs21 package, > but I can't figure ou

Re: Questions about emacs-snapshot (and also a small patch)

2005-04-26 Thread Jérôme Marant
Daniel Brockman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Which is twice longer than 'baz diff'. > > And completely unhelpful to anyone who's ever used any other VCS. > I hardly think the command name `diff' is so bad that it has to be > removed despite the fact that it's what everyone is going to expect. >

Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-04-26 Thread Jérôme Marant
Adrian Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, Hi, >> If you want to see Emacs for GNUstep in Debian some day, please talk to >> emacs-on-aqua people and ask them to work for its inclusion in the >> CVS trunk (there already exists a Carbon port). > > As mentioned above, this is planned. Howeve

Re: Questions about emacs-snapshot (and also a small patch)

2005-04-26 Thread Daniel Brockman
I wrote: > Do ` v load-path RET C-x o C-s local' and see if there's any match > for you. There isn't for me, and Trent Buck reported the same thing > on IRC a while ago. > > As you'll know, Debian Emacs Policy[1] requires that every Emacs > flavor have the following entries in `load-path' (in thi

Re: Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-04-26 Thread Adrian Robert
Hi, Sorry for the late response here, I just saw this thread. Err, from the Web site: "The port is based on GNU Emacs 20.7, which is one behind the latest version. Emacs 21 added mostly UI features, not core editing functionality. The UI is nicer though and furthermore some Lisp packages have start

Re: Re: emacs.app for GNUstep for debian

2005-04-26 Thread Adrian Robert
Hi, Sorry for the late response here, I just saw this thread. Err, from the Web site: "The port is based on GNU Emacs 20.7, which is one behind the latest version. Emacs 21 added mostly UI features, not core editing functionality. The UI is nicer though and furthermore some Lisp packages have start

Generating autoloads for multiple Emacs flavors

2005-04-26 Thread Daniel Brockman
I have both emacs21 and emacs-snapshot installed, and I'm having a problem with installing the Debian BBDB package. My default flavor is emacs-snapshot, so that /usr/bin/emacs -> /usr/bin/emacs-snapshot. The problem is as follows. When BBDB is installed, its autoloads are generated only once, us

Re: Questions about emacs-snapshot (and also a small patch)

2005-04-26 Thread Daniel Brockman
JÃrÃme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Quoting Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> JÃrÃme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> 'baz diff' is what you want. >> >> Or with tla, "tla changes --diffs" ... > > Which is twice longer than 'baz diff'. And completely unhelpful to anyone who's ev

Re: Questions about emacs-snapshot (and also a small patch)

2005-04-26 Thread Daniel Brockman
JÃrÃme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Quoting Daniel Brockman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> --- orig/patches/misc-unseparated.dpatch >> +++ mod/patches/misc-unseparated.dpatch >> @@ -57,1 +57,1 @@ >> - * Installation Changes in Emacs 21.4 >> + * Installation Changes in Emacs 22.1 > > Coincidence

Re: Questions about emacs-snapshot (and also a small patch)

2005-04-26 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> By the way, is there any tla equivalent of `cvs diff'? > > > > Forget about tla. Use bazaar 1.3.2 from debian unstable. > > > > 'baz diff' is what you want. > > Or with tla, "tla changes --diffs" ... Which i

Re: Questions about emacs-snapshot (and also a small patch)

2005-04-26 Thread Miles Bader
Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> By the way, is there any tla equivalent of `cvs diff'? > > Forget about tla. Use bazaar 1.3.2 from debian unstable. > > 'baz diff' is what you want. Or with tla, "tla changes --diffs" ... YMMV with regard to "baz" I think. It's been quite flaky every

Re: Questions about emacs-snapshot (and also a small patch)

2005-04-26 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Daniel Brockman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > First of all, thanks a lot for emacs-snapshot Jérôme! I'm currently > trying to get all my Emacs application packages to load here. Anytime. > Now as for as the promised patch, it's as simple as this: > > --- orig/patches/misc-unseparated.dpatch >