ove on. How should I proceed
with this?
Greetings,
¹
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e to do
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Wouter Verhelst dijo [Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 09:01:47AM +0200]:
> On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 06:29:31PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > Why should it be Debian-native?
>
> I never said it *should* be. I said it *could* be, and that whether or
> not it is should be the maintainer
are_ formally right, I would rather not
come down with a harsh message at someone who is not really hurting
any of us except for failing to provide a link back. Even the place's
name is clearly personal!
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...Or possibly we could decide on renaming /bin/ls to /bin/ls.elf in
order to show what kind of file it is, and allowing for different
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for removing the extensions,
> but I think this is a valid point for having one in the first place.
That's the reason we sometimes diverge away from upstream: We don't
cater for the exact same audience, and we might modify their chosen
binary names to make things easier and more
t; My bank statements are non-free but iceweasel isn't in contrib.
Shame on you, were it not for that selfish standpoint we would have a
freer, more open world!
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than if they were statically linking a library: It leads to code
duplication and cases such as this, where it becomes a serious and
hard to fix security liability which not only must be hand-corrected,
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. o O ( Maybe a way to reach the "piuparts clean" release goal is to
break piuparts so it complains less? ;-) )
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command-line utility (which as of right now does not exist ;-) )
Of course... I highly value Debian's ability to have just-installed
package in a state that just-works. We do have /usr/lib/cgi-bin, which
achieves this goal - And I support the idea of having a
/var/lib/www-root or somet
it is
asking too much. Yes, we cannot just go from using /var/www to
having its existence violate policy and making insta-RC, but as soon
as the (major at least) webserves change their defaults, we can start
filing wishlist bugs, pointing maintainers to this being a work in
progress and expec
Cyril Brulebois dijo [Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 05:54:17PM +0100]:
> Gunnar Wolf (04/11/2009):
> > So, given the attention to this thread: Do you judge this as
> > policy-compliant?
>
> What makes me wonder a bit is what would happen in case several
> webservers were t
components (and,
say, repackaged with +dfsg version)
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binary packages both in main and in contrib - But the licenses for the
sources' components would all be GFDL-free anyway.
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event launched by upstart can make the initscript to be called. Just
make sure that starting an already started daemon, or stopping an
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more at a loss at my bad work than if we had to autobuild arch:all -
And arch:all can be built by any of the buildds with some cycles to
spare (yes, although implementing this might have to change some
processes in the wanna-build infrastructure), so m68k won't
bug once you've provided the
> > extra information.
> Sure... When in doubt just blame udev.
> (Hint: README.Debian.)
No, Marco, what he meant is that it's fun to actually see you rage
about yet-another-bug :)
(or is your personal mail address listed in README.Debian as a
pressure re
t try? If it works we saved time. If it fails only idleing is lost.
Even in the worst cases, it would mean just waiting a couple of hours
until a build was detected as successful in our fastest buildds - I
doubt ARM/m68k buildds are often that much time idle ;-)
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played with cowbuilder/cowdancer, but that might also
fit your needs.
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enseless ... I know that well!
HUH!?!?
Ummmh... If that's how you really feel and I'm not failing to
understand some deep sarcastic remark, I invite you to keep those
packages away from Debian.
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you are not
running Debian in your build system, well... I would not be surprised
at having some reactions ;-)
> Btw. pls stop cc'ing me! I'm subscribed and hate deleting neddless mails!
Please set up the headers accordingly in your mail client :)
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access
I think this would fit most of us quite nicely, and strongly help
prevent breakins like the ones we have suffered. What do you say?
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would it be better to register it as a project in Alioth? It
would be located at
http://alioth.debian.org/projects/09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0
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Josselin Mouette dijo [Sat, May 05, 2007 at 11:05:12PM +0200]:
> Le samedi 05 mai 2007 à 13:00 -0500, Gunnar Wolf a écrit :
> > ...Or would it be better to register it as a project in Alioth? It
> > would be located at
> > http://alioth.debian.org/projects/09F911029D7
Luis Matos dijo [Sun, May 06, 2007 at 02:21:15AM +0100]:
> oh ... dot com is already taken...
> http://09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63.com/
>
> best regards
Hey, if you don't have anything to do with your money now that it's
taken, send it over here! ;-)
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ep compiling the whole dist myself).
...Do you have the technical skills to step up and become a sparc32
porter? If so, you can keep the subarch alive. I also hate to see
Debian losing support for a whole and once very popular class of
hardware, but the fact is... With nobody doing this work, there is no
share). I don't think adding a new section
will be of any use.
Greetings,
[ Cc:ing this to debian-devel, as I think that if any discussion
happens regarding this bug, it needs to be project-wide. FWIW, this
proposal has 4 seconds already. ]
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ss that requires several mail
interchanges.
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I'm right now filing O: bugs on all the packages. If nobody picks them
up, I'll close them when importing into the pkg-perl group.
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amd64Frederik Schueler
Tools
initramfs-toolsMaximilian Attems
Former kernel team members
Jens Schmalzing (deceased)
Maybe it's not complete or up to date - please help keeping it up to
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without joining, if
you prefer it that way... Although it would be awkward
(i.e. coordinating SVN work and such) - I do recommend you to join. We
won't load your back with unrelated bugs ;-)
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as a short description - And as the
first line of the long description, I'd include the package name
expansion - "maq (short for Mapping and Assembly with Quality)".
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ld be renamed, to
avoid confusion, to "not desktop-integrated" or such.
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eck it: linux-2.6 is going in today (thanks to manual
hinting by luk) )
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[1]
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-2.6.25-2-vserver-amd64
[2] http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=linux-2.6
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2. The DDs decided to trust the RMs.
3. There is no number 3.
4. Our priorities are our users and Free Software.
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[4] http://gwolf.org/node/1831
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even get back Xen dom0 support :)
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avirtualized hosts without the hardware features (i.e. the lesser
CPUs sold nowadays) while kvm does require VMX/SVM?
I have not done extensive testing yet (I'm a newbie to both
approaches), but I don't feel the slowdown you mention when under kvm.
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Florian Reitmeir dijo [Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:39:22AM +0200]:
> >openvz is actively working on namespace merge and using the emerging
> >bits. their patchsize is decreasing.
>
> and whats about vserver?
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administration tools are still way more complete than KVM's - But I
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om this thread and refered sites) it should not have much
impact. The important thing is for webservers not to clobber whatever
the user has placed in his directory of choice - and of course,
provide an easy way to change the default Web root.
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So, if this gets implemented, having a field in debian/control would
be unnecessary - any apt front-end showing screenshots would know
exactly where to look for them (and whether to show a warning of "old
screenshot" if needed).
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Joey Hess dijo [Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:59:05AM -0400]:
> Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > Moving from /var/www to /srv/www gains nothing - We would still have
> > all webservers throwing files where they are not supposed to, to a
> > user-managed directory.
>
> There's a
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So... Anything you might want me to run, please ask.
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mean to you? Do you think that everybody who
bought a Nokia 810 tablet or similar uses it on a daily basis? They
_are_ maintained a Debian-based system. Do regular Ubuntu desktop
users know (or care) about it?
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case anymore, AFAICS.
>
> Indeed.
>
> But we should still recommend an upgrade of apt/aptitude first.
I cannot tell whether this is a related issue, but I tested an upgrade a
couple of days ago. A clean upgrade was not possible without upgrading
apt beforehand. See #498800 for details.
C
the Test Anything Protocol. Some pointers
for it:
http://testanything.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test_Anything_Protocol
http://www.szabgab.com/blog/2008/09/1220345643.html
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> Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Keeps the fan from spinning constantly in the noisy Acer Aspire
> > One. Provides also tools to query several machine-specific EC
> > registers
>
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always noticed some resemblance
between him and http://tinyurl.com/fix-RC-now
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lid, free and compatible
licensing schemes - but if in West Namibia it becomes illegal to
digitally manipulate photographies, we won't stop shipping photo
manipulation programs.
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ard do? You just cannot say "there is no source". That
would imply the firmware is a result of your computer's creativity -
and I'd seriously doubt it.
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many people are more used) in a painless and intuitive fashion. But I
have yet to see a real reason (besides the work that must go into
sweeping them out of the current and future kernel tree - Thanks to
everybody involved into that!) for Debian to make the needed
exceptions to distribute them
t advocate distributing them as part of Debian.
And not because they are inherently evil or anything, but because
Debian is not the right place to distribute them from. See what I
wrote regarding the RFCs - I agree with the IETF, the RFCs server much
better their purpose being non-free than if they
k or a spare CD-ROm, the installation will
happily proceed.
Enough for you? :)
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>
> Currently it's a case-insensitive search over the package name and short
> description. I'm open to suggestions.
Browsing by section names (kde, games, mail, ...) or limiting the search to
certain sections would be nice as well.
Cheers,
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_Of course_ that Joss' post mentions sexist situations and points of
view. But I don't think there is a single comma in his message meant
to be taken seriously.
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ctified (braiinz!), but adequate advertising would be needed
to cater for us male living humans to be attracted...
Food for thought... (well, that's my definition of brains anyway).
BTW, I could have also felt Joss' message as a personal attack on my
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taking too long? Just upload to -unsupported!"
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> so that there is a large amount of transparency in the maintenance
> process.
Yes, having a VCS-based service looks as very important in my eyes.
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a DD. However, there are
LOTS of software which are not up to Debian's standards in
this-or-that regard. Having an infrastructure where just about anybody
can upload packages (with just a legality check, I'd say) is positive.
Then again... We can direct them to Ubuntu ;-) They are offering the
ser
d lookalike) in some
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the packages by license, or do any nice amount of
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for 2.x or not API-compatible). Should we keep obsolete, deprecated,
abandoned software forever?
Hmmm... Sounds like an argument for porting Debian to the C64.
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Gtk1.2. However, many of us have the opinion that, if they are worthy
enough, somebody will have the interest and time to port them to
Gtk2. Try and do the same to your pet programs - you will do a much
bigger service than by maintaining Gtk1.2.
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an alternative to
> Motif and the ugly Xaw widget sets, and was eagerly embraced by
> everyone. This is a central and historic piece of software.
And, hey, libc5 is also a core piece of our collective history - The
first widely distributed version of a free, GNU C library! Oh, and so
i
to people from the Netherlands) But still, I hope
you can unearth my true motivation from under my sarcasm, and discard
what's worthless in my message.
I think I have answered to the rest of your mail in other posts.
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heir eight year old applications so they run on any modern-day
distribution. And if they are sure their application runs with closed,
secure data, and if the application is production-quality and does not
need to be touched... Well, you can perfectly keep a cluster of Woody
machines for a long time!
: Maven Archiver
> >
> > No kidding‽
>
> Do you have any better description? The title of the homepage is
> 'About Maven Archiver'.
Hmh, maybe «software project management and comprehension tool» would do?
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Torsten Werner dijo [Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:10:13AM +0100]:
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hmh, maybe «software project management and comprehension tool» would do?
>
> That describes maven itself. 'Archiver componen
plexus-archiver.
>
> And plexus-archiver is?
The thingy that is wrapped by maven-archiver.
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em - even if we have upstreams that
understand the process of releasing Debian, it is hard to expect them
to work with the madness associated with long freezes. And I do not
think we will be able to avoid long freezes in the future, just
because of the scale we work with - We might be able to someho
nny and start another ballot, only
> focusing on the *real* lenny release? All other options must go into
> other ballot, or more than one, let's talk about that.
Rank "Further discussion" first. That's our best way to say "I think
this vote is wrong".
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solve A and B as
well).
Still... Everything lends itself to interpretation. In the case you
mention, if a GR says "No" for C, then Lenny will be delayed until
said problems are solved. And if then we vote "Yes" for A, they will
know the firmware issue is off-limits (via a GR, of
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e much. And even if many of us repeat again and again to them
that "d-i Beta 1", "d-i RC1" etc. don't mean "Debian Beta 1" or
"Debian RC1", I see many people asking me for support using such
monkiers. Those users will go back to being stable (hopefully) s
able
to defend herself. And still, many people are willing to shut you up
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that this is a way too long “small” description
> that won't make it very easy to actually use of it? Mraw, KiBi.
My suggestion:
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>
> Completly different machine, so not the cause for your trouble.
Umh... It has kept quiet, and seems to be running fine. We will be on
the watch.
Sergio, I got a SMART warning - We _do_ still have some spare HDDs (or
money) from the last help call, right? No need to rush, but... I
39339, #440527. I exchanged some private mails with Ilya
Zakharevich and with Bill Alombert in this regard (I might still have
them somewhere, if you want to see any further reasoning)... Sadly,
the only answer was to withdraw the ITPs and forget about the issue
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there are breakages, in both testing and
unstable. If I wanted my users' systems to break, I'd point them
towards Fedora instead ;-) Having somebody facing an uninstallable
situation or a conflict indication message, although perfectly
understandable and easy to work out with our current t
y who wants to lead this?
- Pkg-perl and/or Apache groups: Do you agree? :)
- In any other case: Other takers?
Greetings,
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Gunnar Wolf dijo [Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 09:32:30PM -0500]:
> Hi all,
> (...)
> I'm sending this mail as an answer to #438168 - A user
> (understandably) fed up by what seems to be lack of attention to a
> package that is core to many people's work, libapache2-mod-perl2. I
&
Rigidness :-/
Greetings,
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skimmed it) - Thanks for sharing!
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rl group can refer to it without jumping
through hoops)
Note that the eleven-year-old timestamp seems to concern the
_license_, not the module itself :)
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