Re: Some questions about dependencies

ou want to discover update_output.txt and http://www.debian.org/devel/testing -- Simon Huggins \ "Problème délicat, résolu par notre présidente qui a \ installé Caudium" -- Laurent Rathle http://www.earth.li/~huggie/htag.pl 0.0.22

Re: /run and read-only /etc

believe many developers were quite incessed the last time a /var and /com discussion came up, so we really shouldn't take it into a flame war. Simon

Re: Debian MIA check

Hiya, On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 11:25:49AM +0200, Héctor García Álvarez wrote: > El mar, 13 de 05 de 2003 a las 18:11, Joey Hess escribió: > > Tor Slettnes > I am the maintainer for those packages and I'm not MIA for the moment. > Please check your list again. > Héctor García Álvarez <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: DebConf 3 for New Maintainers

help you on that one. I suspect that DebConf time will be the last possible time for examinations, so better check with your teachers. Other than that, most of us will probably be going to LinuxTag Karlsruhe before, as the flight from Frankfurt to Oslo is probably the cheapest way there. Si

Re: Answers to "Why is package X not in testing yet?"

n't figure out why this is so: why would updating fam break so many > apparently unrelated packages, but only on alpha? Pssst, read right to the bottom of the page. And they aren't unrelated. Dig around a bit and you'll see that they are indeed related in some way to fam. Sim

Re: Debian Wiki

't I managed to cobble some code together for it. Simon. [0] moin.sf.net is the project pages and http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/ is the real wiki -- * "I got everything up to th

Re: Debian conference in the US?

d the conference in the U.S. I am a Canadian who has not stepped foot on American soil since your government declared it was at war. Simon

Two debconf issues

that in a templates file? Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: DC26 EB8D 1F35 4F44 2934 7583 DBB6 F98D 9198 3292 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!

RE: Two debconf issues

On Tue, 1 May 2001, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > If you use debconf you are using perl (-: of course awk is your friend and > mine. Hrm, since that stuff will also tend to get ugly when written in awk, I think I'm going to use perl then. Simon -- GPG public ke

Re: Proposing task-debian

at runs before the initial install. I expect > that many new users would be rather confused... It's also an ugly hack because you'll have to: apt-get install { -remove } which happens to be REALLY ugly. Better to have apt-get support task-removals. For example: apt-get remove --remove-task [--purge] { } Simon

Debconf and substitution in long description

7;uprecords-cgi/install_note' hostname $hostname db_input medium 'uprecords-cgi/install_note' || true While this may not be a really important place, I'd still like it to work. Any ideas what might be wrong? Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/S

Re: Debconf and substitution in long description

On Fri, 4 May 2001, Simon Richter wrote: > While debconfiscating :-) uptimed, I also added a note to uprecords-cgi > so that the sysadmin would be informed where the CGI would show up in his > webtree. In this note, I'd like to use substitution, but this apparently > doesn'

Re: rfc1149

uot;, as free as a bird, but in a not so romantic sense, as he would find himself disprovided of any kind of legal protection. If anybody wanted to harm or even kill him, he wouldn't be persecuted for that. -- Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ^X^C q quit :q ^C end x exit ZZ ^D ? help shit

Re: Debconf and substitution in long description

On Thu, 3 May 2001, Joey Hess wrote: > Perhaps hostname --fqdn is failing? Try DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer Hrm, the hostname command works (as verified by "echo $hostname"). I'll try the debug option as soon as I get home. Simon -- GPG public key available from http://ph

Re: Debconf and substitution in long description

ause I'm running testing instead of unstable at home. I'll try unstable debconf now. Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: DC26 EB8D 1F35 4F44 2934 7583 DBB6 F98D 9198 3292 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your

Re: Debconf and substitution in long description

6. Indeed the version from unstable works. I'll make the package depend on debconf >= 0.9.36 then. Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: DC26 EB8D 1F35 4F44 2934 7583 DBB6 F98D 9198 3292 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!

ITP: wmfinder -- A graphical file manager for WindowMaker

about converting it to Qt 2. Program home page is http://www.imago.ro/wmfinder , license is GPL 2. Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: DC26 EB8D 1F35 4F44 2934 7583 DBB6 F98D 9198 3292 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me

Re: RFC: Signed packages and translations

p server, but the .diff.gz is untouched. I think the .i18n.tar.gz file should not be mentioned in the .dsc file, since it will change over time, invalidating the signature. Hrm, it seems that file will need a .sig file signed by katie to accompany it when you download the full source. It's early morning and I'm tired. I almost bet I overlooked something. Simon

Re: RFC: Signed packages and translations

n config what languages he will support. Apt can use this > Descriptions files itself or (IMHO) better make a po file with the > Packages and Description file and make with this a mo file. And use > the normal dgettext. With this we don't use the desc-trans-XX.deb in > real. What is the point in using gettext then? If you generate the .po file from two different sources (original and translation without the original text), the translation cannot be out of date. Simon

Re: RFC: Signed packages and translations

> > Step 1: Signed archives > > --- > Quick note from vacation: signed packages are already designed and > implemented. No need to reinvent the wheel. Do they allow unsigned/separately signed parts? Simon

Re: RFC: Signed packages and translations

> You should all realise that GNU ar supports long filenames, so there is no > need to obfuscate filenames from ar's point of view. GNU ar, yes. dpkg, no. Simon

Re: RFC: Signed packages and translations

we have to put them in a separate file though, so we don't break any signatures. See also my proposal extension a few mails ago. Simon

Re: RFC: Signed packages and translations

that sig's sole > purpose is to authorize the upload. :-/ Putting the translations into the diff is not a good idea IMO, since I never download my own packages, so I never get updated translations. Simon

Re: RFC: Signed packages and translations

or which there have been no uploads so far. Nothing is ever changed on the FTP server. Simon

Re: new proposal: Translating Debian packages' descriptions

is some effort going on to make diffs from the Packages files). I'm going to apply for a new job now, after that I'll take a more extensive look into this. Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: DC26 EB8D 1F35 4F44 2934 758

Re: New update_excuses output

racking down > packages that are out of date (on alpha) for longer than normal (usually > indicating a problem that can't be handled by the build daemon), and > hence look at that list quite regularly. It may also be an idea to generate per-arch excuses files. Simon -- GPG publ

Re: problems with binary NMU and apt

s a real bug since it passes the args to dpkg, which differs from the behaviour in the man pages, hence the bug report), one could build binary NMUs for packages that use debhelper and don't override DH_OPTIONS in their debian/rules with this option. Simon -- GPG public key available from h

OCELOT SQL DBMS is now free open source (fwd)

Hi, I just came across this, perhaps someone is interested in packaging it. Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: DC26 EB8D 1F35 4F44 2934 7583 DBB6 F98D 9198 3292 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signatu

Please move autoconf and autoconf2.13 into testing

Hi, it seems those two packages are depending on each other and are thus stuck. php4-dev depends on autoconf2.13 and is also stuck therefore. Could you move these two packages into testing manually? Thanks, Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc

Re: Bug#126567: libreadline4 no longer respects directory separators in tab-completion

d I would have closed the report without notifying you. Can we confirm whether this is a libreadline thing? It could be bash's programmable completion feature. Has the user defined any `complete`s? If so, maybe he should look at what he's set for his `cd`s. Simon

Re: Bug#126567: libreadline4 no longer respects directory separators in tab-completion

On 27 Dec 2001, Bill Gribble wrote: > On Thu, 2001-12-27 at 10:29, Simon Law wrote: > > Can we confirm whether this is a libreadline thing? It could be > > bash's programmable completion feature. Has the user defined any > > `complete`s? If so, maybe he should loo

Re: Bug#126567: libreadline4 no longer respects directory separators in tab-completion

On 27 Dec 2001, Bill Gribble wrote: > On Thu, 2001-12-27 at 10:54, Simon Law wrote: > >Hrm... Could you list the output of `complete` and `set -o` for > > me? I have the same inputrc, and am unable to reproduce the problem. > > I am running libreadline4 4.2a-3 and

Re: Bug#126567: libreadline4 no longer respects directory separators in tab-completion

I just got this message from debian-devel: If you are running gnome-terminal, then can we merge the two bugs together and call it fixed? Simon -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:54:59 -0800 (PST) From: Michael P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Craig Dickson &

Re: Bug#126750: klogd should optionally be started from init(8)

it is possible. In the case of a VM screwup, I'd like my box to reboot and send me a mail rather than let mysql die in the middle of a transaction and serve "database connection refused" pages to everyone until apache also dies. Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos

Re: Release notes

m archive. python-imaging-doc contains the example code from the upstream source, python-imaging-doc-{html,pdf} contain the handbook, which is downloadable separately. python-imaging-doc suggests the other two, but people doing a dist-upgrade might miss the HTML docs. Simon -- GPG public key

Re: RFC: Packaging buildd

y our IT department accepts this as my "software development project to add some more time pressure and also justification to work on it when I should be doing stuff for the uni). Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: 040E B5F7 8

Re: RFC: Packaging buildd

an write troff, texinfo, > latex). Is the source publicly available yet? I have it in my CVS repository, available via CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/work/cvs/misc co buildd I'm currently trying to get the communications infrastructure right, it doesn't build anything yet. :-)

ITP: libsocket++ - Socket abstraction library for C++

t; project because the main author of libsyncml (http://libsyncml.sf.net) asked me whether he could use my socket code. Home page is http://www.fs.tum.de/~richtesi/software/, License is LGPL. Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: 040E

Re: ITP: libsocket++ - Socket abstraction library for C++

ary; it seems to do a superset > of what your library does (including threaded server objects, non-blocking > I/O, etc.). We're trying to get away from CommonC++... :-) Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: 040E B5F7 84F

Re: ITP: libsocket++ - Socket abstraction library for C++

nt. The basic plan is to increment micro if the header file did not change, minor if it changed, but recompiling the app would still work, and major if recompiling wouldn't help either. Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: 040E B

Re: RFC: Packaging buildd

s one such project, that seems to be > working almost. It rebuilds almost all of Debian archive now. > Few more quirks to go. Well, my project goes much further, it is basically a "generic" autobuilder with a plugin for .dsc/.deb (just like APT is a generic package library with plugins

Re: ITP: libsocket++ - Socket abstraction library for C++

, the dependency on preemptive threads makes it fail in strange ways under NetBSD, which has cooperative threads by default. Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: 040E B5F7 84F1 4FBC CEAD ADC6 18A0 CC8D 5706 A4B4 Hi! I'm a .signature

Re: RFC: Packaging buildd

ime (for example, ignore the build dependencies and build in an auto-apt environment, or do an arch-specific rebuild). Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: 040E B5F7 84F1 4FBC CEAD ADC6 18A0 CC8D 5706 A4B4 Hi! I'm a .signature virus!

Re: ITP: libsocket++ - Socket abstraction library for C++

he plan. When the autobuilder is finished, this will happen automatically (so you can drop old versions of the library from the archive). Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: 040E B5F7 84F1 4FBC CEAD ADC6 18A0 CC8D 5706 A4B4 H

Re: RFC: Packaging buildd

roblem" in itself. > This might be useful is a build fails due to a Build-Dependent package > not working, producing a broken deb. Thus you can just reschedule it > once the dependency is fixed. That's the plan, yes. Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos

Re: RFC: Packaging buildd

ally a bad idea. > Build-Depends needs to be updated. Of course. He was referring to broken packages that were installed as build dependencies. Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: 040E B5F7 84F1 4FBC CEAD ADC6 18A0 CC8D 5

Re: ITP: libsocket++ - Socket abstraction library for C++

Debian > for all development, but libxml is pretty widely available. Well, I don't use XML for anything in my project, so I think I shouldn't require libxml (especially since you need to do non-portable tricks if you want the resulting binary to work without libxml). Sim

Re: Requirement for a “proper manpage” for every command

th --help output. Possibly the document around the man page requirement could point to help2man as a quick solution in case there is useful --help output but no man page. /Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: -dbg packages; are they actually useful?

ably be recreated easily -- still leaves the problem that in order for the service to be useful, we need quite a back archive of debug information for older versions. Simon signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: To the aqualung NMUer....

On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 10:10:13PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > 1. Don't spam devel to contact just one person. For reference, who-uploads from devscripts is useful for working out who NMU'd something. Simon -- ... "Be wewy wewy careful. There be dragons here." --

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

umb as a directory for Thumb libraries. To a certaint extent, multilibs overlap with CPU feature flags, so I wonder if these mechanisms should be unified as well (I'm not even sure there are 64-bit PowerPCs without AltiVec). Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.d

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

Hi, On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:27:47PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 05:57:32PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > > That is actually beneficial if we wanted to merge both architectures into > > one, which would IMO be the sanest thing to do, > IMO that

Re: Packaging a library when upstream does not build a .so

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:42:37AM +, Enrico Zini wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:17:37AM +, Enrico Zini wrote: > > I would like to get to the point of uploading #519184. However I have > > one issue on which I'm unsure: the library API and ABI would be stable > > enough, but upstream

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

7;t really need the extended address space, and run a bit faster and need less memory in 32 bit mode (it's less pronounced on i386 as the 32 bit ISA has less registers). Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: Outdated config.{sub,guess} package list

tion does not accurately describe modern autotools. I don't think overriding config.{sub,guess} in debian packaging is the right solution without forwarding the problem report upstream. It is not a debian specific problem. /Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@li

Re: What about default-syslog [Re: new release goal default-mta?]

a-defaults is being > created it looks like we are still looking for a solution. I think the default-* idea is good. The thread above mentions both 'inet-superserver' and 'mail-transport-agent-default'. May I suggest that we use default-* for this? It helps to improve th

Re: postfix as default-mta? [Re: Bug#508644: new release goal default-mta?]

lengths from memory. > > Please not ssmtp. If I recall it correctly I found no way to get it > to send mail to a exim-based smarthost via TLS in a sane way. What about msmtp? http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/ /Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: postfix as default-mta? [Re: Bug#508644: new release goal default-mta?]

Jakub Wilk writes: > * Simon Josefsson , 2009-05-11, 12:55: >>>>> +1 for ssmtp >>>> I found ssmtp couldn't cope with mail my various systems were >>>> generating, something about fixed maximum buffer lengths from memory. >>> >>>

Response

ted as an alternative.) The random IP thing was just an attempt to avoid congesting port space too much (since I anticipated multiple users running it independently), and I'm prepared to consider that it might have been misguided and arrange for it to be easily disabled at compile time. Chee

Re: [Debconf-discuss] using OpenPGP notations to indicate keysigning practices [was: Re: GPG keysigning?]

the issuing office can map (name, address, date of birth) -> number for inclusion in - the list of stolen documents, kept by the police (this list has no names) Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Bug#534750: ITP: telepathy-mission-control-5 -- management daemon for Telepathy real-time communication framework

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Simon McVittie * Package name: telepathy-mission-control-5 Version : 5.1.2 Upstream Author : the Telepathy project (© Nokia Corporation, Collabora Ltd.) * URL : http://mission

Re: C++ symbol mangling difference between arches

's ABI changes, and the "double"/"triple" symbols are there precisely because the ABI says so. Except for a vtable/typeinfo/name group (which reeks of actual doubled code) all lines in your output are constructors, destructors and thunks to destructors. Simon -- To UNS

Re: HTTPS everywhere!

On 12/06/14 19:16, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Christoph Anton Mitterer > >> Supplying the Debian Root CA to people not using Debian could have been >> easily done by a *single* site that uses a cert available in all >> browsers... which offers the Debian Root CA for secure and "trusted" >> downl

Re: New project goal: Get rid of Berkeley DB (post jessie)

On 20/06/14 08:47, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Respectfully, this is only your own opinion. Maybe I'm wrong, but I > myself fail to see why the AGPLv3 is a problem. And I don't understand > why you wrote that "the AGPLv3 is not very friendly to downstream > projects". IMO it is only unfriendly with pro

Re: SV: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

On 25/06/14 15:43, Svante Signell wrote: > Regarding mate desktop policykit-1 build-depends on libsystemd-login-dev > only for linux-any. What functionality is missing for other > architectures? The interesting dependency chain is: policykit-1 Depends libpam-systemd [linux-any] (degraded function

Re: SV: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

On 25/06/14 19:51, Svante Signell wrote: > Looks like consolekit is the package fork if such a thing ever happens. > There are still patches, mainly for kFreeBSD, from 2013-2014 in the > freedesktop BTS since the last release. When was the Debian switch from > consolekit to policykit-1 made? Conso

Re: SV: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

On 25/06/14 20:03, Svante Signell wrote: > On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 17:38 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: >> Upstream developers in various projects increasingly oppose group-based >> access, because membership of many "desktop stuff" groups essentially >> means "can

Re: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

On 26/06/14 13:33, Svante Signell wrote: > Of course with the additional check that the students are logged in to > that box locally, did I forget to mention that? Apparently yes. So you'll still need some solution to "is this user local?" - either an implementation of the systemd-logind API (pref

Re: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

On 27/06/14 10:53, Svante Signell wrote: > Before this part of the thread dies out, can anybody comment on this, > Simon, Ansgar, Jean-Christophe, ...? > > On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 16:32 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: >> Maybe I'm naive but doesn't utmp(5) solve this probl

Re: multiarch: arch dependent header file path choice

On 28/06/14 18:44, Osamu Aoki wrote: > The path for the arch dependent header file seems to have several options. > > 1) /usr/include//*.h > 2) /usr/include///*.h > 3) /usr/lib///include/*.h The correct answer depends: (a) what users are meant to #include (e.g. vs. ) (b) whether users are m

Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

On 16/07/14 11:17, Harald Dunkel wrote: > how comes that network-manager-strongswan has been dropped > from testing? https://packages.qa.debian.org/n/network-manager-strongswan.html says: network-manager-strongswan (source, i386, amd64, armel, armhf, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390x) has new bugs! Up

Re: Bug#755676: general: Intermittent failure to mount partition [after hibernate?] with message "Transport endpoint is not connected"

On 22/07/14 10:58, Paul G Taylor wrote: > The /dev/sda2, NTSF formatted partition, is shared between RoboLinux, Windows > XP and Windows XP virtualised in VirtualBox. Not necessarily related to the error you reported (which I have no idea about) but you should never allow VirtualBox to have raw f

Re: libsystemd-dummy available in unstable

On 24/07/14 12:16, Marco d'Itri wrote: > This package provides a dummy libsystemd-daemon-dev binary package on > kfreebsd-* and hurd-* systems. > > The purpose of this package is to allow other packages to > unconditionally build-depend depend on libsystemd-daemon-dev, removing the > need for if

Bug#756654: ITP: rohc -- RObust Header Compression (ROHC) library

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Simon Paillard * Package name: rohc Version : 1.7.0 Upstream Author : Didier Barvaux * URL : http://rohc-lib.org/ * License : LGPL-2.1+ Programming Lang: C Description : RObust Header Compression (ROHC) library

Re: Bug#756521: ITP: kadeploy -- Scalable, efficient and reliable cluster provisioning solution

On 02/08/14 08:03, Charles Plessy wrote: > A straightforward way is exemplified by the case of SSH, where the server keys > are regenerated if they are absent. It then only takes to delete the keys > when > preparing images to avoid the problem of duplicated IDs or privacy leaks. D-Bus (/var/lib

Re: more files in /usr/share/doc could possibly be symlinked

On 02/08/14 10:01, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > Perhaps more duplicate files in /usr/share/doc could be symlinked to > save space in some cases Yes, I'm sure some of them could; but whenever the infrastructure to do this goes slightly wrong, it ends up as failure to install (or a missing file that is

Re: Bug#756521: ITP: kadeploy -- Scalable, efficient and reliable cluster provisioning solution

On 02/08/14 19:16, Luca Capello wrote: > On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 14:35:33 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: >> D-Bus (/var/lib/dbus/machine-id) also regenerates its machine ID during >> boot if required, although systemd (/etc/machine-id) > > BTW, /me wonders why two different files..

Re: Bug#753589: systemd: missing pre-dependencies for runlevel(8) etc.

Policy says new Pre-Depends should be discussed on debian-devel so let's try that. (Please do not derail this thread into discussing whether systemd is a good thing or not, everyone is tired of that.) Quick summary of #753589 for debian-devel readers: Essential:yes packages are expected to provide

Re: Bug#753589: systemd: missing pre-dependencies for runlevel(8) etc.

On 04/08/14 09:32, Simon McVittie wrote: > Quick summary of #753589 for debian-devel readers: Essential:yes packages are > expected to provide their functionality while merely unpacked, even when > not yet configured. The new init package is Essential:yes, and the > functionality i

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

On 08/08/14 05:41, Joey Hess wrote: > (Also, perhaps worth noting > that 3.12 is quite a few versions ahead of the gnome currently in > unstable..) The metapackages in src:meta-gnome3 are still at version 3.8, but the actual upstream packages making up GNOME 3.12 are nearly all in testing already.

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

On 13/08/14 23:08, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > the common reaction I get from new Linux users [...] > I would also recommend to go for > this user group when selecting a default, since any more experienced > user can absolutely be expected to pick the right image with their > favourite flavour of Debi

Re: Uploading python-xstatic-* packages in Debian

On 14/08/14 15:44, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 08/14/2014 07:02 PM, Brian May wrote: >> In what way will python-xstatic-jquery be better than libjs-jquery? > > It's not in any way better, it just adds the Python wrapper layer, so > upstream code can easily find out that jquery is located in > /usr/

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

On 15/08/14 15:16, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Some initial questions and possible answers: I've been hesitating on whether to ask this because it gets into questions of workflow and repo structure that are very much a matter of taste and don't have a single widely-declared-to-be-good answer, but I t

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

On 16/08/14 17:09, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Simon McVittie wrote: >> It is possible to use git-buildpackage with --git-export (either >> explicitly, or configured in debian/gbp.conf) for packages that only >> keep debian/ in git. > > Are you su

Re: systemd service and /etc/default/

On 17/08/14 10:38, Thomas Goirand wrote: > I had the same problem as you describe above, even a bit more > complicated because, in what we did, /etc/default/ sometimes > doesn't exist (it's not mandatory in what we did). EnvironmentFile takes precedence over Environment, and EnvironmentFile starti

Re: systemd service and /etc/default/

On 17/08/14 12:48, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Aug 17, Marc Haber wrote: >> It is not >> always possible to come with a working default configuration or to >> build one in postinst. > > If unconfigured software really cannot fail cleanly then the package can > install it without enabling the service

Re: daemon user naming scheme

On 25/08/14 14:01, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > is there for Debian a daemon user naming scheme or custom ? Several :-( The ones I've seen suggested are (assuming a package, daemon or user whose simple name is "foo"): * _foo * foo * debian-foo * Debian-foo * Dfoo

Re: daemon user naming scheme

On 25/08/14 18:30, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >> On 25/08/14 16:53, Simon McVittie wrote: >>> I think I slightly prefer _foo, which originated in *BSD. > > Moreover, _foo is not accepted by adduser, the option --force-badname must be > used. Correct. Debian-foo has the same p

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

On 26/08/14 07:01, Brian May wrote: > In gbp-pq [...] There is no history kept of > the patch-queue branch. Possibly the patch-queue branch shouldn't be > pushed to remote repositories, because rebasing is expected. You are correct in thinking that it is conventional to avoid pushing the patch-que

Re: Base binary packages using xz instead of gzip

On 01/09/14 12:33, Guillem Jover wrote: > It seems there's quite many binary packages in the base system using > xz as compressor instead of gzip, since the switch to xz as default, > which might make debootstrapping from non-Debian systems harder. According to your report, 145 out of 166 base pac

Re: Base binary packages using xz instead of gzip

On 01/09/14 16:58, The Wanderer wrote: > Unless debootstrap relies on the outside source to perform that > decompression, of course, but in that case I'm not sure what it would > even mean to say that debootstrap "supports" xz in the first place. In this case "debootstrap supports xz" means "deboo

Re: Unicode 7.0 released - some packages contain outdated embedded data copies

a false positive -- libidn implements IDNA2003 (RFC3490 etc) which has a hard dependency on Unicode 3.2. /Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/8738cbvyo8@latte.josefsson.org

Re: calling maintainer scripts with a clean environment?

On 02/09/14 20:09, Evgeni Golov wrote: > after reading #759590, I think it is time to consider calling maintainer > scripts in a (slightly) cleaned environment. Another possibility would be to guarantee that init scripts will be called in a cleaned environment. This seems like it will break fewer

Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

On 02/09/14 21:17, Changwoo Ryu wrote: > For fonts-nanum, the default is ~300 KiB 3.5% larger than -9e. And -9e > is not better than -8e. I don't think anyone is arguing that higher compression settings don't produce better compression ratios. However: Preset DictSize Com

Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?

I'm sure we've been over this many times already. On 03/09/14 13:24, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > If so, can I just run: `apt-get install sysvinit-core` to get rid of > systemd as my INIT? Yes. > If yes, will this be support until... Let's say, Debian kFreeBSD still > remains around...? That's up

Re: daemon user naming scheme

On 05/09/14 16:03, Ian Jackson wrote: > Simon McVittie writes ("Re: daemon user naming scheme"): >> It is reasonable to use /var/lib/foo (or /run/foo or /var/cache/foo or >> /var/games/foo) as the home directory of a system user whose name is >> _foo, debian-foo, D

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there?

On 08/09/14 12:45, Ralf Jung wrote: > I tried to find out what tools are pulled > in by "standard system utilities", but couldn't find the package in > aptitute. The other tasks are packages (e.g. task-gnome-desktop), but task-standard is special and does not exist as a package. Instead, it contai

Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

On 08/09/14 14:44, Noel Torres wrote: > Example: having EMC Networker server softare for backups in a sysvinit > machine > is (relatively) easy, because the scripts for starting and stopping the > services are (quite) standard (but very complicated) sysv scripts. systemd is compatible with LSB

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

On 11/09/14 18:53, Mirosław Baran wrote: > Does NetworkManager support multiple VPN connections right now? Yes. > (Also, > what about persistent VPN setups that are independent from the desktop > session?) Yes, there's a flag for "automatically connect this VPN when you get lower-level connectiv

Re: Trimming priority:standard

' package seems to be superseded by 'bind9-host' so the former could go? /Simon signature.asc Description: PGP signature

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