Re: Bug#292479: ITP: kernel-patch-swsusp2 -- software suspend 2 for linux kernel patch

2005-01-27 Thread martin f krafft
e > point later. You can have it any time if you think you are up to the task. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `-

where to look to understand the big picture (was: Question for candidate Towns)

2005-03-19 Thread martin f krafft
this is actually intended, then it is highly inefficient. If it is not intended, then maybe Debian wants to do something about it, and if not only to stop cold those rumours about an alleged cabal. I wonder if Anthony's proposal about mentoring extends to domains beyond the duties of the s

dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread martin f krafft
do not take effect. I am not sure if this is a known problem, I could not find information on it. I am not sure how this could be fixed. Or am I doing something wrong? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EM

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread martin f krafft
#x27;re at a loss here? I guess I can work around it by: build: patch $(MAKE) real-build real-build: /// do whatever but I was wondering if there is a better way... -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.30.1602 +0200]: > I don't think so, other than using makefile includes. Uh, these are also only read once... -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f.

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread martin f krafft
ge takes even longer...). Anyway, thanks Marc for the suggestion. I think I will prepare an updated debian/rules based on this and send it to doko. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :'

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.31.0906 +0200]: > DISTRIB := $(shell something-that-prints-DEBIAN-or-UBUNTU) Rene told me about lsb-release. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. kraff

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-31 Thread martin f krafft
opies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pg

Re: init.d script dependencies for etch?

2005-04-01 Thread martin f krafft
at once and letting each call its dependencies. This would be very hard to implement efficiently. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `

Re: init.d script dependencies for etch?

2005-04-01 Thread martin f krafft
ut a given dependencies (e.g. by requiring a /bin/ps check). -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better thi

Re: init.d script dependencies for etch?

2005-04-01 Thread martin f krafft
B-compliant, so why deviate? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a

Re: init.d script dependencies for etch?

2005-04-01 Thread martin f krafft
. Cached? As in queried beforehand? As in two-pass algorithm, once iterating init.d with 'depends' as option, then with 'start' ? Yeah, that sounds nice. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAI

Re: init.d script dependencies for etch?

2005-04-05 Thread martin f krafft
; > My sarcasm detector went off with this one, so I'll try to intervene. Actually, no sarcasm was intended. Sorry. It *does* sound interesting! A policy-based approach, so to speak... -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. kraf

Re: Bug#304513: RFP: kernel-patch-v4l2-2.4

2005-04-13 Thread martin f krafft
So check out that package and some kernel-patch packages using it. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - whe

Re: Bug#304513: RFP: kernel-patch-2.4-v4l2

2005-04-15 Thread martin f krafft
intend to maintain it for longer, then you should not upload it. You can file an RFP though and include a link to your repository. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian develope

Re: Bug#271428: mapping unknown timezones

2005-04-16 Thread martin f krafft
libc dungeons. I just note that the current behaviour of date is misleading, and that is what this bug is all about. -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things

Re: Bug#271428: mapping unknown timezones

2005-04-16 Thread martin f krafft
copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired

menu files in /usr/lib?

2005-04-27 Thread martin f krafft
, in which case the menu format should be extended to allow for arch-specific stuff (IMHO). Anyway, looking forward to an answer... -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian develo

Re: Bug#271428: mapping unknown timezones

2005-05-02 Thread martin f krafft
nge, though. tzvalid() sounds fine. And if the timezone is not valid, a warning can be issued and GMT used instead. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, us

launchd and lookupd

2005-05-02 Thread martin f krafft
list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! "the

Re: launchd and lookupd

2005-05-02 Thread martin f krafft
//lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00796.html Oh why is this not surprising actually? :( Thanks, Steve, for the link. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian develope

Re: Ubuntu and its "appropriation" of Debian maintainers

2005-05-02 Thread martin f krafft
nt build, and also display a more appropriate name in > "apt-cache show" etc.). > > What do you think about this approach? It would misappropriate any changes made by the Ubuntu maintainers to the source package, no? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read th

debian.org email forwarding

2005-05-07 Thread martin f krafft
d the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! "life is what happ

Re: debian.org email forwarding

2005-05-07 Thread martin f krafft
ine where I actually receive the message. okay, that's also an interesting solution, but it won't solve my problem: if the final recipient server rejects the message which procmail forwarded, I get the bounce. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .'&

Re: debian.org email forwarding

2005-05-07 Thread martin f krafft
n the policy of master's SMTP acceptance. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do

Re: debian.org email forwarding

2005-05-07 Thread martin f krafft
se do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subke

Re: debian.org email forwarding

2005-05-07 Thread martin f krafft
k without quotes though. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a syst

Re: debian.org email forwarding

2005-05-07 Thread martin f krafft
will gladly check those out. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a

Prods to the ftpmasters

2005-05-17 Thread martin f krafft
days. Thanks a lot for your work, and for making Debian a more pleasurable place for developers! :) -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `

Props, not prods [was: Prods to the ftpmasters]

2005-05-18 Thread martin f krafft
't was late. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a syste

Re: what to do about fluxbox?

2005-05-20 Thread martin f krafft
. So the question is: why did Matt fix the other bug by removing diversions? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian -

Re: what to do about fluxbox?

2005-05-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.05.21.0149 +0200]: > So the diversion here are leftovers which weren't deleted. Oh oh, > fluxbox, things are looking bad. So apart from test -d /etc/X11/fluxbox && rm -rf /etc/X11/fluxbox in postrm, which coul

mdadm+udev needs testing!

2005-05-21 Thread martin f krafft
k.net ~madduck/packages/nmu/mdadm/ or http://debian.madduck.net/~madduck/packages/nmu/mdadm/ Cheers, -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do

Re: mdadm+udev needs testing!

2005-05-22 Thread martin f krafft
.gz is missing fixed. Thanks for your time! -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than

mdadm+udev needs MORE testing!

2005-05-22 Thread martin f krafft
http://debian.madduck.net/~madduck/packages/nmu/mdadm/ Thanks a lot. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - w

Re: mdadm+udev needs MORE testing!

2005-05-22 Thread martin f krafft
read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! &quo

advice sought for fluxbox (release-critical, possible dpkg bug)

2005-05-23 Thread martin f krafft
ivert --package fluxbox --remove --rename /usr/bin/bsetbg dpkg-divert --package fluxbox --remove --rename /usr/share/man/man1/bsetbg.1.gz fi Do you know any better way? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PRO

Re: advice sought for fluxbox (release-critical, possible dpkg bug)

2005-05-23 Thread martin f krafft
ivert --list is probably redundant > here, FWIW. It won't hurt and makes me feel better about this. If such a hack is necessary, it's best to define the conditions under which it is applied as closely as possible. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .&#

Re: advice sought for fluxbox (release-critical, possible dpkg bug)

2005-05-23 Thread martin f krafft
copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subk

RAID and /dev advice needed

2005-05-23 Thread martin f krafft
il to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyse

Re: RAID and /dev advice needed

2005-05-23 Thread martin f krafft
but I am not willing to do so at this stage of the release. I have no experience with filesystem C programming. Now if someone submits patches, all the better. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :

[help needed] RAID and /dev advice needed

2005-05-23 Thread martin f krafft
not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net

Re: Bug#274859: [help needed] RAID and /dev advice needed

2005-05-24 Thread martin f krafft
is seems trivial enough. I am running a test now. Thanks. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have

Re: Bug#274859: [help needed] RAID and /dev advice needed

2005-05-24 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.05.24.1028 +0200]: > This seems trivial enough. I am running a test now. Seems to work; thanks Peter! Rockin'! -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f.

co-maintainers sought

2005-06-12 Thread martin f krafft
bian.org/m/muttprofile.html - poppass-cgi - a CGI script to interact with a poppassd server : http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/poppass-cgi.html Thanks for your attention. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

future of bcm4400-source (was: co-maintainers sought)

2005-06-12 Thread martin f krafft
send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys

setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread martin f krafft
a bug against base-files to have the files included. 3. once base-files hits unstable, mass-file bugs against all compatible shells and ask them to use it. 4. rejoice. So, let's start at (1)... -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :'

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread martin f krafft
and unless people know about it, they'll edit multiple files wrt umask, and we *could* unify this with relative ease. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer,

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread martin f krafft
gt; when trying to set an umask globally. /etc/login.defs is only read for console logins, not for e.g. SSH logins. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admi

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread martin f krafft
a shell, there is no point in having login.defs set the umask -- the shell will override it anyway. Filing a bug against login... -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian develop

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread martin f krafft
an the umask call itself), and a one-line comment telling people to go to /etc/umask.conf. I think the PAM way is the better way. An alternative would be to refer to libpam-umask from such a comment. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread martin f krafft
fault login.defs > file, this is why I prefer asking immediately...:-) See the bug report... -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `&

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-20 Thread martin f krafft
files upgraded. > > Do libpam-umask ought to be "base" ? The discussion is here: http://bugs.debian.org/314539 -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer

Announcing a new book: The Debian System -- Concepts and Techniques

2005-06-26 Thread martin f krafft
nk to the book's pages from your web site, please see [10]. Also, feel free to forward this message verbatim. 10. http://debiansystem.info/public Thanks for your attention. -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author:

Re: Announcing a new book: The Debian System -- Concepts and Techniques

2005-06-27 Thread martin f krafft
you can also take care of debianbook.com? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do t

Re: Announcing a new book: The Debian System -- Concepts and Techniques

2005-06-27 Thread martin f krafft
t take until next week for the book to become available. Thanks for your patience. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `-

Re: Announcing a new book: The Debian System -- Concepts and Techniques

2005-06-27 Thread martin f krafft
; two companies. They donate 5% of every sale to the FSF Europe. Done. They'll get first place then, obviously. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin,

Re: Debian Project Leader report for 2005-07-07

2005-07-07 Thread martin f krafft
> at [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well. The ETH Zurich agreed to host one machine. I have sent email to debian-admin on 27 June, followed by a reminder on 6 July. I have not heard anything from them. The people at ETH are wondering what's going on... -- Please do not send copies of list mail

Re: Debian Project Leader report for 2005-07-07

2005-07-07 Thread martin f krafft
o stay... Sure. But I am talking about changes. Those are not made and then everyone is expected to abide by them. Instead, they are catalysed from common and proven strategies. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Debian Project Leader report for 2005-07-07

2005-07-07 Thread martin f krafft
hich point it > becomes compulsory even for those who don't yet abide by it. That's what I mean. Thanks for setting it straight for me. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :&#x

Re: Drop the minor release number

2005-07-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.07.08.1750 +0200]: > Counting numbers start at one. Not in the computer world. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Deb

Re: Drop the minor release number

2005-07-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.07.08.1854 +0200]: > How do you explain RCS/CVS? I am sorry to everyone who tries. Same applies to subversion. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Drop the minor release number

2005-07-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Helmut Wollmersdorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.07.08.2106 +0200]: > You confuse counting with addressing. You confuse counting with labeling. Are we counting releases or labeling them? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`.

Re: Hosting for Debian machine

2005-07-11 Thread martin f krafft
opies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkey

package ownership in Debian (was: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-28 Thread martin f krafft
package, go > away" syndrome. http://wiki.debian.org/LowThresholdNmu -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `-

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread martin f krafft
me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system windoze nt crashed. i am the blue screen of death. no one hears your

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.28.1822 +0100]: > > Debian stopped innovating? > Yes. This should be obvious to people who joined the project before 2000. I wonder who the troll is now. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list!

Re: package ownership in Debian (was: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-28 Thread martin f krafft
add comments > like "I'm listed as uploader in foo but group x is the backup > uploader"; How about a flag in the package's control file and an appropriate column in the PTS? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`.

wotomae? (was: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-28 Thread martin f krafft
Any links? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system

Way to go, Debian! (was: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-28 Thread martin f krafft
ho care, I shall certainly blog about the interview once it's out, so follow Planet. I was given the chance to answer some really good questions. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :'

Re: wotomae? (was: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-28 Thread martin f krafft
il to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system "a kiss may ruin a human life."

Bug#380385: ITP: rest2web -- web site builder using ReST as basic content format

2006-07-29 Thread martin f krafft
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: rest2web Version : 0.4.0~alpha Upstream Author : Michael Foord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/rest2web/ * License : BSD

Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-07-30 Thread martin f krafft
send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system "i have smoke

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-07-31 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.30.2139 +0100]: > I have Reply-To set for fear of horrible flame wars when one DD > bashes another one's favourite tool, but I will make the results > public, obviously. Thus, I appreciate if you could take the time to &g

Re: Debian should have a weekly debate

2006-07-31 Thread martin f krafft
N or other discussions. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-01 Thread martin f krafft
e interested in your thoughts as to why subversion beats them all, in your perception. Thanks, -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem

Building in chroots hides bugs? (was: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

2006-08-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1221 +0100]: > Building in chroots *hides* bugs. Uh, what? Please give an example. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-01 Thread martin f krafft
e me some insights, please, into how snapshot.d.n is useful? Don't get me wrong, I also find it useful, but mostly from the administrator perspective, I've not really used it as a developer. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. marti

'Open Sourcing' Survey #2

2006-08-01 Thread martin f. krafft
Dear fellow developers, Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to complete our survey! Please see [0] for the initial call and background information. 0. http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/07/msg00186.html We want to ensure a good representation of community views, and I was thus ask

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-01 Thread martin f krafft
Subversion. And while I haven't tried it I could imagine > that SVK (the distributed addon to Subversion) might be what makes > offline fellows happy. FYI: http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrForeignBranches/Subversion -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .

Re: Building in chroots hides bugs? (was: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

2006-08-01 Thread martin f krafft
fig file) > was forgotten. > This leads to a corrupt package when build on a system where the package > is already installed, i.e. is hidden away in any clean chroot. This makes zero sense to me. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`.

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1804 +0100]: > > FYI: http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrForeignBranches/Subversion > > Have you tryed it? Not productively. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-01 Thread martin f krafft
S nontheless. Yes, and I wanted to know why he thought that is the case. I believe Christoph has given a good account of the reasons. If you have anything to add, please do! -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PR

Re: centralized bzr (Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

2006-08-01 Thread martin f krafft
mmit you make will go to > the main repo first, and if that succeeds, will be commited locally as > well. This is what upstream calls "bound branches", btw. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-01 Thread martin f krafft
snapshot.debian.net, right? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to

Re: Centralized darcs (was Re: centralized bzr)

2006-08-01 Thread martin f krafft
mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system "life moves pretty fast. if you don'

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-01 Thread martin f krafft
t > better? I agree, dpatch & co seem to be more accessible: they are files you can "touch"; they're not an abstract concept ("branch") which you can work with, but which is not tangible. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the l

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread martin f krafft
packaging teams use it. Excellent argument! I completely agree. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Deb

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-02 Thread martin f krafft
not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system "the search for t

Re: Bug#381201: ITP: reniced -- renice running processes based on regular expressions

2006-08-02 Thread martin f krafft
ed to have such a feature on public machines. Of course, the problem is that gcc spawns many processes, and if reniced only takes a little while to react to a new gcc process, the children won't be reniced. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''

Re: Bug#381221: ITP: dpkg-view -- View the contents of .deb packages without root access

2006-08-02 Thread martin f krafft
name this to deb-view or better yet gdeb-view or deb-gview. Thanks, -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debia

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-03 Thread martin f krafft
uotations quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. Never forget that! -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- De

Re: Bug#381201: ITP: reniced -- renice running processes based on regular expressions

2006-08-03 Thread martin f krafft
send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system "heuristic is

Re: Bug#381201: ITP: reniced -- renice running processes based on regular expressions

2006-08-04 Thread martin f krafft
say, yes. > PS: Sorry, Martin, all the other mailing lists I'm on use the Reply-To: > header... Now you get it twice. :) Imagine you had tried to send something personal to me and the Reply-To would have made it end up on the list, because you didn't check before you clicked 'Send&

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-07 Thread martin f krafft
the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system "the stripes on the highway began to unreel beneath her in a

Re: Setting up pbuilder or sbuild like experimental buildds

2006-08-08 Thread martin f krafft
ems to do some magic. So I guess try it? Pin experimental to between 100 and unstable's priority. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansy

Re: Silly Packaging Problem

2006-08-08 Thread martin f krafft
and then using ucf or just plain cat to modify the file in /etc/courier. This is how I solved the challenge in a cluster situation. You can force ucf to replace files by setting $UCF_FORCE_CONFFNEW . -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. mar

Re: Silly Packaging Problem

2006-08-08 Thread martin f krafft
owerful. Doing this with packages (c.f. dpsyco) is painful, IME. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian

Re: Silly Packaging Problem

2006-08-10 Thread martin f krafft
dpkg are conffiles and those must not be touched programmatically, according to policy. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'`

Re: Silly Packaging Problem

2006-08-10 Thread martin f krafft
ith a script. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a syst

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