n fork off a shell? That would
certainly break in this case. Probably we need a flag to dpkg/dselect to
change this behavior.
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I think it's an old BSD bug. The directory /debian.org, before anything
else is mounted on it, has odd permissions. You have to unmount what's
on top of it to see that, but I bet that's it.
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the author, or perhaps they
overlooked the problem or they don't care. We choose to operate differently.
I do know that there are some very sloppy CD-ROM manufacturers out there.
I'm not saying who they are. They are definitely selling things that they
have no legal right to sell.
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ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/private/project/Incoming seems to be OK now.
Also, there is a copy of the "dchanges" package in it.
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for you to maintain those
three files as part of your package, and I'll copy them from your package
into the base system.
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I'm sorry that I wrote TarExtractor to naively call getgrnam() when
the input group name was invalid. I'm patching my version to not do
that - would you do so as well, Ian?
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It sounds as if most of these problems are with the old root disk.
Please get the new root disk from Ian and test that.
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Oops. I think this is what we need "Setterm" for.
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I think "Setterm" was able to set the screen blanker timeout, or turn it off.
We could do it in the setup.sh if we wanted to and had a copy of setterm that
we could distribute without copyright hassles. I suppose this can wait
for the next release, though.
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We're aware of this one, and hopefully it will be repaired today. I think
we really only need to provide another flag to "halt" to keep it from
happening.
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The system allowing you to boot an unconfigured root is my error.
/sbin/unconfigured.sh was the wrong mode. I'll get this into new
base floppies today.
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Setserial belongs in the base system. Ian, can you move it into
the /base directory? Please move "ed" as required
by the FSSTD. I don't think we have to move "ae".
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I've found a few boo-boos in the floppy_merge program and will be uploading
a new one. This one will pause and ask for an ENTER after error messages.
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I don't really like mkboot at all. I guess I could put something that
creates a syslinux or LILO boot disk in its place, so that the user
could at least have a boot command line.
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I fixed the host.conf, am now adding the mail spool directory, and the
spurious-dot problem is on Ian's root disk.
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Actually, mkboot did try to rdev the floppy, but it wrote the floppy to fd0
and ran rdev on fd1. I'll fix that, and the pathnames.
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OK, I'll upload a fix for that in an hour or so.
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; menu item, the hard disk bin directories are not
in the path.
The "ae" editor installs the wrong key file. I'd prefer the one that uses
F1-F10 for new users, please.
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Can you make "ae" install with the function-key map? The last version seems
to install the modal map, which isn't as nice for new users.
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There's no room. No kidding. If Ian adds /root/bin, etc. to the shell path,
it will use the versions that you install from the base floppies, but you'll
have to install them first.
For the next release, I'll have a "tiny" installation tool set that includes
its
In the case of the startup script running dselect, there is no interactive
shell to take over when "dselect" gets a stop signal. Thus, you'd simply
have to fork a shell at a lower level.
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dialog", "badblocks", and "fdisk", I will
modify the source packages for these programs so that they will create
library versions of themselves.
This should give us a reasonably small static-linked environment. It should
fit on the boot floppy along with the kernel and modules.
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lable, I'd be using a floppy root
to repair the system.
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Does this make sense? I can elaborate if you like.
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Can you send us the hosts file? I'd like to see what the root disk put
there when you configured your system.
My system didn't do that, by the way.
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them.
I understand this is more of a complaint about my mail user-agent than about
the concept of using MIME.
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speed.
Everyone else - please suggest orphaned packages for Ger and Bdale to work
on. Bdale is well-known for packet radio software, and I think Ger's done
some good Linux stuff.
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the machine-readable upload announcement to something more
human-readable might be a desirable feature.
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> /dev/tty has mode 660.
Oops.
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I'll see if it will fit. I currently have the "plain" MS-DOS filesystem
included. The kernel is very close to maximum size, though.
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ment platform for firmware that
will go into orbit on the Amsat Phase-3D satellite. See www.amsat.org .
I think "cross-devel" is a good name for a subsection. I will contribute the
Microchip PIC-16 cross-assembler and other software to the same subsection.
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how you could seriously propose a context-dependent parse, but
I'm sick of the argument.
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hine parse in mind.
Once this parser is provided, we will make a script for the FTP
maintainer to run that will move the package into place and announce the
upload to debian-changes.
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Ian,
I have uploaded the following files. Please install them, and then you have
my "OK" to make the release. Note that I made a slight change to your root
disk - it now mounts the boot disk read-only instead of read-write.
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1200_boot_floppy.gz
1440_bas
;s "Changes" field.
Didn't you do something like this for the description field in Debian packages?
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sing to have a write-only upload
directory for the .changes files .
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system
very easily from an Ethernet-connected system.
If nobody else is working on this, Brian White would be an obvious candidate.
The "dftp" program he's already written must contain most of the functionality
needed.
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t you do to inspect the files.
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sn't know how to write a script should not ever have to run
"md5sum" on a package.
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Can I work around the problem by simply renaming the package (to remove
the "k") and rebuilding it from source? I _think_ that's all I need to
do.
Bruce
Ian Jackson,
The recent incident with "sysklogd" (which I have recompiled with the package
name changed back to what it was for now) points out that life would be a lot
easier if "dpkg" supported package renaming.
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Please upload your current manual version and make the release.
I can put in some time on the manual now if you wish.
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1440_base_floppy-1
1440_base_floppy-2
1440_base_floppy-3
base-0.93.6-13.changes
base-0.93.6-13.deb
base-0.93.6-13.tar.gz
boot-floppies-0.93.6-18.c
I am withdrawing the request that package upload announcements be
machine-readable. They may now be free-form. I'm sick of this stupid
argument.
Bruce
It looks fine to me. Go for it!
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d correct base disks.
I think we should agree on an environment variable that I can set to
tell the pre- and post-inst scripts not to start of kill daemons.
Would "DEBIAN_NO_DAEMONS=1;export DEBIAN_NO_DAEMONS"
be an appropriate thing to use?
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variable should be clearly documented in (at least)
> the start-stop-daemon(8) man page.
Right.
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I'd be happy to support both "NO_STARTSTOP_DAEMON" and "CROSS_INSTALL".
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Going to the Shakespeare festival?
check the licenses of any package in that
directory for appropriateness before they include them on their CD-ROMs.
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7;d be happy to send you a disc if that sort of license is OK with you.
I'll be producing CD-writables this weekend.
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Gentlemen,
I think we've established the parameters about how and where Aladdin
Ghostscript fits in the Debian system :-) .
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Rather than re-arrange the current released system, let's put the
new organization in place for the "current" and "1.0" system, and leave
debian-0.93 where it is now so we don't mess up the mirrors again.
That'll give us freedom to move things around for a while.
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> However, I'm wondering whether a more elegant and simple solution
> might just be for Bruce to run the cross-installation which a PATH
> environment variable that ensures that the version of
> start-stop-daemon it finds is a link to `true'.
Clever. This is made somewhat m
who can
provide one in Germany? There are lots of other places that need them as
well.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] reads debian-devel . He's made noises about working
together before.
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has the advantage that it contains
the unmodifed upstream source (not even its name has to be changed) and the
diff file in a single unit, and can be extracted on any system that contains
tar and gunzip.
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o operate the Debian
project. I haven't had much time to work on that this week because I'm working
on CD-ROM mastering.
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> The DELTA file is described by Bruce as containing patch input. I'm
> thinking it'd be better to have it contain a script to debianize the
> sources. The patch input itself (and perhaps multiple patch inputs
> for the multiple upstream sourc
ror sites for it in various places, but we certainly don't need as many
as are currently mirroring 0.93R6 .
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ename" field, but this is probably not necessary.
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as the most elegant
solution to the problem of maintaining the kernel packages. The additional
files take up little space.
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ammer who
has the time to devote to tracking bugs and forwarding them to the
ncurses developers, etc. There are a lot of outstanding bugs on this
package, and the developers issue new releases every month or so.
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t would make the maintainers lives
easier. It would cost users some virtual memory during the transition to ELF,
but I don't think that's so bad. We need those maintainers to spend their time
on ELF conversion and other packages.
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Carl's new email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Why not just stick that file in his
directory until he can deal with it?
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LILO
(package "lilo", documentation in /usr/doc/lilo) to set the hard disk boot
parameters.
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e sent me CDs in exchange for my work on Electric Fence
(which is in almost every Linux distribution) and Debian. Most of them
seem happy to do so when asked.
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There is an official Debian CD - the one that FSF is issuing.
I've offered to let FSF copy my master CD - it's not clear if they
will need to do this or not.
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> (a) The `includes' packages creates /usr/doc/includes/COPYRIGHT in the
> postinst.
Must be a throwback to the old dpkg not handling symlinks. I'll fix
it when I build the kernel.
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being continuous disk rattling.
This switch solves the immediate problem, but making a way to tune this
in syslog.conf would be even nicer.
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Package: miscutils
Subject:
Important getty patch
Date:
Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:41:00 -0600 (CST)
From:
Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
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Here's a quick 'n simple patch to allow getty to work with serial port
speeds above 38400. This is important wh
packages in "/binary/." . To fix that,
change the "find" invocation in /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/disk/setup to look
like this one:
elif find "$mountpoint$response" -follow -noleaf -name '*.deb'
2>/dev/null | grep . >/dev/null
That is, add the "-follow and -noleaf" flags.
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of either "source" or "includes"
after an install.
If Ian Jackson says that "dselect" can handle this situation correctly
now, I'll make the two packages conflict with each other.
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return errors to the Errors-To address or the envelope "from" address,
in that order. Neither of these contained your address. I note wryly
that it belongs to ATT.
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Siggy Brentrup is taking over ncurses.
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I'll try to build a kernel >= 1.3.40 today. I think the binary interface
for PPP has changed yet again, and I'm going to need to build a PPP package
for the 1.3 kernel series - ugh!
Ian, you might as well flush that 1.3.37 kernel.
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I'll try this out later with the 1.2.13 and 1.3.42 kernels.
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syslinux: routine upstream version tracking only.
The candidate should be able to build and upload initial ELF versions of
the packages within a week or so of taking them on.
Please be sure you can technically handle the task, and can allocate the
time required.
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tainer.
syslinux - Track the upstream maintainer.
The Kernel - for an experienced systems programmer only, and takes lots of
work.
I have some tentative takers for some of these "if nobody else asks".
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Robert Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is taking over the "mount" package.
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to serve as an alternate site.
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Unfortunately, "compress" infringes the Unisys - Terry Welch patent.
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use only" (or some such).
You've got a point. I think I might have to remove it from my CD
if Evans won't give me a license. This is problematic, since you
then won't be able to build the kernel, but I _REFUSE_ to distribute
software that I don't have a clear and
Alvar Bray:
> Who has taken over from Bruce as the kernel source package
> maintainer?
I haven't been able to find anyone willing to take on that task
so far, and am thus still the kernel maintainer. I greatly appreciate
your helping with the PPP files, as I have a lot on my plate at
I saw this come over comp.os.linux.announce. This would be a nice feature
to add to the ELF compiler.
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Subject: GCC bounds checking 2.7.1/1.0 released
*** GCC 2.7.1 with Bounds Checking: Version 1.0 released ***
The latest
I am rebuilding both the 1.2.13 and 1.3.43 kernels.
New features:
New BusLogic driver doesn't conflict with Adaptec, thus the default
kernel will work for BusLogic cards.
PPP updates.
ELF configured into the kernel, not a module.
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I think it's too big.
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erously close to a religious war about
> how Linux distributions "should be".
Ugh. We're not all pulling toward a common goal, the way we should be,
because we're too busy arguing about implementation. It's unavoidable,
I fear.
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maintainers.
Is this such a big issue? With your overseas FTP problems you can judge
that, but I'd feel more confident if the maintainer uploaded the entire
package as one piece.
Other than that, I have no problem with your proposal.
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the Debian
Linux distribution. If it is distributed in binary form, the
source code must be included in the distribution as well.
End of addendum.
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