Re: Annoyances of aptitude

2003-10-03 Thread Tom
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 10:59:09AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 08:20:33PM +0200, Sebastian Kapfer wrote: > > A minor issue that plagues me as a Sid user is the "broken packages" > > display. When I install foo that breaks package bar by conflicts of > > dependencies of depende

Re: On package description quality

2003-10-05 Thread Tom
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 02:25:57PM +, debacle wrote: > Hi, > > sometimes I read package descriptions I'm not happy with. > E.g. the description starts: "Foobar is a GTK+ application, > that enables blah..." where foobar is a user application, > not mainly for GTK+ programmers. Of course, the

Re: On package description quality

2003-10-05 Thread Tom
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 05:03:54PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapot? : > > > I disagree. GUI apps in Linux are so wildly disparate that knowing the > > basic architecture is pretty important for me to decide whether or not I > > want it

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-10 Thread Tom
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 11:37:22PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > There are some mathematical tools that might be useful in working with > some of these issues (I know them from models of social networks). When you have a hammer everything looks like a nail. Since I do SQL for a living I'd put all

Re: A case study of a new user turned off debian

2003-11-03 Thread Tom
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 04:57:34PM -0500, Greg Stark wrote: > All I want to do is give up on this new version and go to an earlier version, > most likely the version I had installed five minutes ago. Downgrading to > testing would probably require a whole new set of libraries and more work. I keep

What's the deal with NMUs? [was Re: Are you still there?]

2003-11-04 Thread Tom
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 07:17:12PM -0500, Alex Pennace wrote: > A well meaning NMU to unstable can be helpful in the interim. > Naturally, submit a bug to describe the NMU; a diff is useful. If I > notice any problems I'll work with the uploader while the package is > still in unstable. I'm confus

monstrous arse [Re: Bug#219163: ITP: synaptic-touchpad -- Synaptics TouchPad driver for XFree86]

2003-11-08 Thread Tom
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 02:52:09PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > G. Branden Robinson| It just seems to me that you are > Debian GNU/Linux | willfully entering an arse-kicking > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | contest with a monstrous entity > htt

Re: debian-installer beta 1

2003-11-09 Thread Tom
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 02:31:55PM +1100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-09 21:17]: > > > >We are pleased to announce the first beta release of > > > debian-installer, the >new installation system for sarge. > > > > > > We want screenshots! > > > > Seconded

Re: Is vrms really still a Virtual Richard M. Stallman?

2003-11-16 Thread Tom
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:14:53PM +1100, Andrew Lau wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I don't know whether to file a bug report or just laugh my head off. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% vrms > Non-free packages installed on espresso >

Re: Programming first steps.

2003-11-17 Thread Tom
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 12:15:45PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Op zo 16-11-2003, om 16:44 schreef Chad Walstrom: > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 08:45:51PM +0800, David Palmer wrote: > > > I thought that I might make a beginning at learning. I've searched > > > the web, found information that goes

Re: How to find all reverse depends of a package?

2003-11-17 Thread Tom
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 06:33:52PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Without, that is, installing every package in Debian. > > I'm curious, for instance, as to why emacs20 hasn't managed to be removed > yet. Presumably something depends on it. But I can't figure out what. > aptitude or deborpha

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces (was Re: Programming first steps.)

2003-11-17 Thread Tom
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:21:23PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > H. S. Teoh wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:47:34AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote: > >[snip] > > >>I have a love-hate relationship with the significant whitespace. > > >I have a hate-hate relationship with it. I much prefer free-style

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces (was Re: Programming first steps.)

2003-11-17 Thread Tom
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:53:54PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Tom wrote: > >Significant whitespace? Shudder, that brings back crusty old memories > >of Fortran. I have great fondness for fortran because of the wonderful > >mathematical algorithms in LinPack, but I

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-18 Thread Tom
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 04:33:16PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:10:53AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > | > Please actually try to code something in Python before commenting on its > use > | > of spaces. It is unlike the times of Fortran: in Fortran spaces are use

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-18 Thread Tom
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:04:48AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > H. S. Teoh wrote: > >Yeah, 'whitespace' about sums up the value of it. Except to Python > >programmers, of course. :-P :-P > > Quite the contrary. First off generally flames are from the > uninformed. Since in most cases the e

Build-depends for Rekall?

2003-11-18 Thread Tom
This seems on topic for the list's stated purpose: "Discussion about technical development topics." I'm trying to build rekall from rekallrevealed.org. It seems like it's going to have lots of build dependencies. If anyone has ever built it on debian, or can provide a probable list of build-

Re: Debian Enterprise - a Custom Debian Distribution

2003-12-01 Thread Tom
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 03:31:29PM -0500, David B Harris wrote: > (Why does money always need to get involved?) I think people start burnin' cars and shit if they don't have something to do all day. > Okay, that sort of turned into a rant :) I do apologise, but I'd > desperately like to help

Re: XML files referencing DTDs via HTTP

2003-12-01 Thread Tom
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 07:48:04AM +1100, Brian May wrote: > On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 01:51:31AM -0800, Tom wrote: > > That's true. It can be any string. The fact that it just happens to > > look like an HTTP url and DTD is actually at that URL is not part of the > >

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-02 Thread Tom
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 10:08:03AM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > Apparently nobody knew it was comparable to ptrace, it looked like a > simple bugfix and not like a local root exploit. > Well, I just downloaded 2.4.23 from kernel.org and installed it. [obGrumble] I never got hit by any of t

Re: Revival of the signed debs discussion

2003-12-02 Thread Tom
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 11:07:53AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031202 02:55]: > > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > What can we do with deb signatures? > > > > > > For our current problem, the integrity of the debian archive being > > > questioned, the procedure

Re: Revival of the signed debs discussion

2003-12-02 Thread Tom
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:17:58PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What precautions are taken that the DD actually signed it with the DD's > > private key? > > Set aside the possibility that the DD herself is actually th

Re: Revival of the signed debs discussion

2003-12-02 Thread Tom
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 02:20:43PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > There is no security as strong as many people reading the source over > and over. You can't hack their brains to skip over the backdoor code > and you can only obfuscate a backdoor so much. Allright, allright, I'll cry uncle.

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-02 Thread Tom
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 11:06:44PM +0800, Isaac To wrote: > rather far from changing anything in the kernel memory. Andreas is > definitely right that the hole doesn't look like that it is that dangerous. It messed up your life for a couple weeks. Jesus, it's not the end of the world, but that's

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-02 Thread Tom
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 08:51:50PM +0100, Andreas Rottmann wrote: > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 11:06:44PM +0800, Isaac To wrote: > >> rather far from changing anything in the kernel memory. Andreas is > >> definitely right

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-02 Thread Tom
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 11:46:45PM +, Geoff Richards wrote: > > South of where? USA. North Carolina. Not South Carolina. Remember that. Redhat is in North Carolina. I always wonder if those mascara-wearing Cure-listening long-haired Linux skater punks ever get into trouble out in thos

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-02 Thread Tom
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 10:54:24AM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 11:17:19AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > The only way to have avoided this kernel vulnerability from day-0 of > discovery/fix release would have been to be constantly upgrading to > pre-release kernels. >

Re: OT: Smartcards and Physical Security [Was: Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call]

2003-12-03 Thread Tom
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:20:59AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003, Tom wrote: > > Yes but the attacker did not "steal" the DD's computer. He rooted it > > remotely. > > So the machine is rooted remotely, the DD logs into a debian box even

Re: OT: Smartcards and Physical Security [Was: Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call]

2003-12-03 Thread Tom
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 01:03:16AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > [NB: I wanted to take this OT discussion off [EMAIL PROTECTED] and into > private > mail, but your e-mail address was munged in some sort of anti-spam > measure, and not trivially un-mungeable. Please consider providing > information

Re: OT: Smartcards and Physical Security [Was: Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call]

2003-12-03 Thread Tom
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 01:16:39AM -0800, Tom wrote: > > If something could have prevented something that actually happened, I > say go for it. Oh, one last thing: each DD should pay for the device him/her self and should be required to fly to meet wherever they can pick them up. Wh

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-03 Thread Tom
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:06:33PM +0100, Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > > What is a "RSA token"? > Device used in some internet banks. You have a device, which has only > chipset, digital pad with on/off switch and display, all embedded in small > case. Authentication is made using C/R algorithm: yo

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-03 Thread Tom
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:10:28PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Are you going to pay for all those smartcards plus their readers? > Including any smartcards for possible future DD's? > > If not, I suggest we forget about this, as it won't be feasible. I don't think the USB models cost that

Re: OT: Smartcards and Physical Security [Was: Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call]

2003-12-03 Thread Tom
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:20:57AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > How about including your full name somewhere in your posts too then? > I find it a bit off-putting to discuss security with someone who's > obscuring their identity. Ha Ha Ha what a joke. I don't want to be googled for all etern

Re: OT: Smartcards and Physical Security [Was: Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call]

2003-12-03 Thread Tom
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 08:45:49AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Share the crack. In my experience kids in college and right out tend to freak out over the thought of having to spend a few dollars of disposable income, because they don't have any :-) Hey, laugh if you want, most organizatio

Re: OT: Smartcards and Physical Security [Was: Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call]

2003-12-03 Thread Tom
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 09:06:07AM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: > > So you've aided telemarketers and worked for Microsoft? Is your last > name Darkness, middle name Prince of? Satan fell because he wanted to know. So do I. I'm a contrarian. I believe the opposite of whatever I'm confronted wit

Re: OT: Smartcards and Physical Security

2003-12-03 Thread Tom
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 09:26:15AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Guess what the median age of a Debian developer is. Don't know, don't care. > Volunteer organization have dues? Yes, I don't know what planet you're from, but on this planet the Rotarians, Kiwanas, Civitans, Knights

Re: OT: Smartcards and Physical Security

2003-12-03 Thread Tom
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 09:28:30AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Sender: Tom Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yeah, somebody else pointed that out. It's bullshit that mutt was doing that to me. My /etc/email-addresses: # This is /etc/email-addresses. It is part of the exim package

Re: OT: Smartcards and Physical Security [Was: Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call]

2003-12-03 Thread Tom
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 05:34:05PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003, Tom wrote: > > I think the DD's should seriously think about requiring smartcards. > > It would have prevented the proxmiate cause of our recent troubles. > > Smartcards are not a m

Re: OT: Smartcards and Physical Security

2003-12-03 Thread Tom
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 09:24:07AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Heh. Your grasp of the practicality of the situation is > slipping. Not only do these guys donate a fairly expensive chunk of > billable hours and expertise, they must pay to be able to volunteer? Sure, if you care about

Re: OT: Smartcards and Physical Security

2003-12-03 Thread Tom
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 11:14:29PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Let me reiterate. You want to set up something with the Debian Project's > machines so that I have to pay for the privilege of contributing? > > Thanks, but no thanks. Volunteers don't work that way. > No sweat, that's totally

Re: OT: Smartcards and Physical Security

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:43:21AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Snippy, aren't we? Usually it is better to have basic logic > straight before you try for a mistaken sense of haughtiness. My logic is correct; apparently my understanding of the goals of the Debian project is not. I al

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 02:23:54PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 05:19:22PM -0800, Tom wrote: > You must be joking. If the developer's system is compromised, and he logs > into another system after that time, that system can be easily compromised > al

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:13:49PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > Not really; he just has to set things up ahead of time. This is like > claiming the attacker has to be present in order to sniff your password from > a telnet session (he doesn't; he just has to have been around at any time > bef

Re: OT: Smartcards and Physical Security

2003-12-05 Thread Tom
Let me start by saying I basically understand your last point: it's not worth it because it won't work. On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 04:01:42AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > who follow secire processes. Blowing 40k collectively is unlikely to > buy us much security. Like I said, it may be that i

Re: The term "Custom Debian Distribution" (Was Re: [custom] The term "flavor" and encouraging work on Debian)

2003-12-05 Thread Tom
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:36:20AM -0400, Ben Armstrong wrote: > Then that discussion needs to be resolved so that a solution can be made > that is in Debian main. It's useful to try to clarify the terms so people can speak the same language, but as soon as you categorize anything somebody's go

Re: OT: Smartcards and Physical Security

2003-12-06 Thread Tom
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 01:51:23AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Drop the imperatives, and we shall get along a lot better. > Better still, roll up your sleeves and make it happen, and > you'll earn my respect, and my support. How about "fuck up again and watch your good thing go awa

Re: OT: Smartcards and Physical Security

2003-12-06 Thread Tom
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 11:13:05AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > And then again I question your judgement. What, pray, is this > good thing that is going to go away? "Hey hey I saved the world today Everybody*s happy now The bad things gone away And everybody*s happy now The good thing*

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-09 Thread Tom
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:45:58PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > As for acting like a Jackass, the Johnny Knoxville and his colleagues are > very > talented entertainers who work hard. I wouldn't compare them to you in any > way. Oh, I dunno. I got *your* attention. But chill the hell out

Re: Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-09 Thread Tom
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:06:48PM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > freedesktop entry features > debian menu file features > > Therefore you can do a lossless transition from .desktop to menu, but not > the other way around. It makes sense to use the .desktop standard. I know what you mea

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-09 Thread Tom
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 01:12:13AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > . Could you please try > to keep debian-devel posts to well-thought-out [1] technical content, Sure. I'd also ask everyone to keep their anti-American, anti-Bush SIGs and random comments out of both lists. I have acted like a jack

Bug#284978: general: libgmp segfaults on generating 48402688-bit random number

2004-12-11 Thread Tom Womack
e the first mpz_urandomb() call, it still segfaults in the same place. Tom

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Tom Rauchenwald
On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:48:51 -0800 Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Well parroted. Since I can see you don't understand the difference > > between main and contrib, I will point you to it. Please see 2.2.1 and > > 2.2.2 in policy.

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-29 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 25 May 1997, Mark Baker wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> the other solution is to have a small utility that stores these values, > >> can change them and gives the values to the scripts

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-29 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 25 May 1997, Christian Hudon wrote: > --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On May 24, Tom Lees wrote > > > > The third solution, which I prefer is a utility which modifies the > > variables within the scripts - it&#

Re: Where is the mysql package?

1997-05-30 Thread Tom Lees
snarf is similar to this. Sample output:- debian:~$ wget -v http://localhost/debian.html --11:59:33-- http://localhost:80/debian.html => `debian.html' Connecting to localhost:80... connected! HTTP request sent, fetching headers... done. Length: 2,778 [text/html]

Re: kernel header files : problems (yes, again)

1997-05-30 Thread Tom Lees
fix it again... any good solution ? Put something like this in debian/rules:- mkdir kinclude ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux kinclude/linux ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm kinclude/asm Then compile with -Ikinclude -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.d

Re: RFC: Policy for arch specs

1997-05-30 Thread Tom Lees
-pc-linux-gnu! But, all programs should install using the alias, not the full name. Dpkg calls it "i386", but the autoconf string should be i486. In general, the alias given to configure should be xxx-linux. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.u

Re: Taking over e2fsprogs ?

1997-05-30 Thread Tom Lees
on it. However, e2compr-ised patches are only available against 1.06 - they will need some converting. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86 9D 02 4D A6 1E B8 A2 17 9D 4F 9B 89 D6 finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for f

Re: dcfgtool and clones

1997-05-30 Thread Tom Lees
it would be faster to use a yacc parser, and write your own (simpler) lexer. The regular-expression capability of lex does hit the performance slightly unless you really need it. GNU flex doesn't suffer from this problem nearly as much as the original lex did, though - it was severely slow. &

Re: Unresolved Critical Bugs

1997-05-30 Thread Tom Lees
]>, > but he is looking for a new maintainer for e2fsprogs. Seeing as I am maintaining e2compr, I'll take it, and merge the packages as appropriate. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86 9D 02 4D A6 1E B8

Re: time stops on latest kernels

1997-05-30 Thread Tom Lees
an 2.1.36 #56 Sat Apr 26 15:44:22 BST 1997 i486 unknown And everything is working... -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86 9D 02 4D A6 1E B8 A2 17 9D 4F 9B 89 D6 finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for full public key (a

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-30 Thread Tom Lees
xed now, since 1.4.0.9 (it was in my original automakizing patch, it now using the debian changelog to determine version). -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86 9D 02 4D A6 1E B8 A2 17 9D 4F 9B 89 D6 finger [

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-06-02 Thread Tom Lees
On 30 May 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Lees) wrote on 27.05.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > There are ways to avoid this. For example, modify dpkg not to include any > > line with "config=yes" in it in the md5sum of certain files. &

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-06-02 Thread Tom Lees
ause" in Linux? Ctrl+Pause (=Break) should do one of those kernel dumps IMHO. Or produce SIGINT, whatever... > Does someone have any other special keys on his keyboard that we should > define? (We'll just do it if the keyboard layout is widely used.) Ctrl+PrintScreen (=SysRq) should d

Re: packages.debian.org & qmail (was Re: Using CVS for package development)

1997-06-02 Thread Tom Lees
say bruce-packages-rsync. Then, ~bruce/.qmail-packages will execute a script to process it, or you can have .qmail-packages files for each pkg if you are worried about speed. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86 9

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-06-10 Thread Tom Lees
t two - *even though you quote me explaining it*! Well, I already wrote a simple system that works like this in perl - and a modified version of md5sum which can do this. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86

Re: points on future installation disks development

1997-06-14 Thread Tom Lees
;t like it, and use LILO instead. Others I know use OS/2 Boot Manager. We should also have an option to install all the appropriate LoadLin stuff into a DOS partition, and set it up properly. > Related topic: I expect to have much less time for Debian for the > remainder of this year. So I def

Re: Some ideas about the text db

1997-06-14 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 8 Jun 1997, David Frey wrote: > Hi Tom, Hi. > > Basically, we first have a "/default" directory, which every package > > imports its default settings into. > > > > User configuration is put under "/config", which means that the system &

I found the Xemacs problem!

1997-06-21 Thread Tom Lees
I installed the new 3.1 binary (not support) package. It still coredumped on me - XFree 3.2-1. Then I upgraded libc5 - 5.4.17-1 to 5.4.23-1. It now works perfectly. I looks like its pretty dependent on a specific version on libc. Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-23 Thread Tom Lees
ould consider adding one. ghughes> Boa might be a possibility, if it could be told how to ghughes> transfer gzipped files; I have positive experiences with ghughes> it, but I don't know whether this is something it can do ghughes> by default. -- Graham Hughes <

Re: Hamm: Retracting request for chos to be standard

1997-06-23 Thread Tom Lees
Christoph> bootdisks?? As someone else already said, this would be a bad idea, since the advantage of syslinux is its DOS support. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk

Re: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-24 Thread Tom Lees
searches is not acceptable IMO. As far as I know, Rob> that leaves out most html browsers at the moment. In fact, AFAIK the only "browser" which supports all these is Emacs/Xemacs w3-mode. Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.demon.co.

Re: Hamm: Retracting request for chos to be standard

1997-06-25 Thread Tom Lees
7 until lately when 20 came out) - I need the feature which can "hide" one DOS partition when you select another. Erik> Are there any other features lacking from it that make it unusable Erik> by Debian? I can certainly attest to the fact that this is one Erik> piece of softwa

Re: Experiences with compiling Debian

1997-06-25 Thread Tom Lees
joost> Well that would be a lot of changes: many postinst's would need to joost> be changed. No, the file permissions are set in the tar-file from the list generated from the special versions of chmod. A tar-file can be made as any user, you just need a tar which can understand how to p

Re: Documentation Policy

1997-06-25 Thread Tom Lees
uce any kind of indication that it's doing anything. texinfo, on the other hand, is much faster. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/pgpkey.txt. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THI

Re: Bug#15484: cvs in bo is still vulnerable

1997-12-08 Thread Tom Lees
cert message, > but there was one. > > Tom Lees told me: > > The cvs in bo is vulnerable. The cvs in hamm is not. > This hole was fixed in upstream release 1.9.10. > > If you want a version for bo which is not vulnerable, report it as a > bug (add a header "S

Libc5 compile machine?

1997-12-12 Thread Tom Lees
I know there is a machine which I can compile for libc5 on somewhere. a) Where is it? b) Can I have an account on it? I need to compile+upload a new cvs for bo. Please encrypt any passwords, etc., using my PGP key:- Type Bits/KeyIDDate User ID pub 1024/87D4D065 1996/08/26 Tom Lees

ever heard of ftwalk?

1997-12-24 Thread tom hull
dear debian-developers, i've written a freeware package, an awk-like script programming language. it was originally developed for file tree search/maintenance applications, so i called it "ftwalk". a more awk-like mode also exists, called "hawk". it has a rich type system, scads of built-in functi

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
k A.tar.gz in /A Patch A.diff in /A Unpack B.tar.gz in / Patch B.diff in / This would be very nice IMHO. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86 9D 02 4D A6 1E B8 A2 17 9D 4F 9B 89 D6 fi

Re: compiling with gettext

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
; extern char *gettext(const char *); > extern char *textdomain(const char *); > extern char *bindtextdomain(const char *, const char *); The problem is that gettext, etc., are being recognized by the preprocessor! You don't need these, you should #include the appropriate libintl.h inst

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
m. At least we should allow building as a non-root user as soon as possible (using the new GNU tar). -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86 9D 02 4D A6 1E B8 A2 17 9D 4F 9B 89 D6 finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for ful

Re: Bug system `followup' messages

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
pect other people may do this as well. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86 9D 02 4D A6 1E B8 A2 17 9D 4F 9B 89 D6 finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for full public key (also available on keyservers) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
7;t get to review it before it's run. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86 9D 02 4D A6 1E B8 A2 17 9D 4F 9B 89 D6 finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for full public key (also available on keyservers) -- TO UNSU

Re: Sending closed bug notices to interested parties.

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
ome web > interface. This might be useful, as in general I probably don't want to > see all bug report closures. Maybe a "watch" feature, where you can tell the bug system what you want to see about a bug report (if you have ever used CVS watches, you will know w

Re: Bug#8794: wrong arch declaration in dpkg.

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
> --- archtable Thu Feb 27 21:53:23 1997 > > +++ archtable.new Wed Apr 16 16:22:49 1997 > > @@ -21,4 +21,4 @@ > > alpha alpha alpha > > m68k m68km68k > > armarm arm > > -ppcppc ppc > > +powerpcpowerpc powerpc This is alr

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
t; has dependencies (to .upsdeb's for upstream source, and .deb's for > binaries needed to build it), those would also need to be installed too. This should probably be /usr/src/debian. Then we could have a nice set of Makefiles installed to let us do a "make world" style sy

Re: Bug#9242: dpkg: dpkg could be smart about Changes information

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
t. IMHO, a parser for the "Last week's uploads into i386" files regularly posted to debian-(devel-)changes would be ideal. Then you create another mailing list to house these announcements only, and make dpkg remove the old info when the package is upgraded. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL P

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
ckages :>. But its getting designed pretty quickly, and might not be flexible enough by the time the new source stuff gets done. > If we wait until later, there's going to be even more of an installed > base of tools and packages that are going to need to be changed. So my > p

Re: Imminent Checker upgrade release

1997-05-14 Thread Tom Lees
On 12 May 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote: > (I actually had to install an extra hard drive in order to build this > package. It takes over 200MB of hard disk space to build--is that a > record?) No, IIRC the just the XFree86 sources take ~250MB :> -- Tom Lees <[

Re: compiling with gettext

1997-05-14 Thread Tom Lees
On Wed, 14 May 1997, Susan G. Kleinmann wrote: > Yesterday I reported that I was no longer able to compile the package 'sp'. > Santiago Vila and Tom Lees both kindly offered suggestions, but both of > these still leave sp in an uncompilable state. > > Santiago pointed o

Re: Pbs with locale and fonts

1997-05-15 Thread Tom Lees
#x27;t seem to be compatible... No idea on that one. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86 9D 02 4D A6 1E B8 A2 17 9D 4F 9B 89 D6 finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for full public key (also available on keyservers)

Re: dpkg verify mode for security?

1997-05-18 Thread Tom Lees
e PGP-signed md5sums. Another alternative is to keep a copy of the md5sums on read-only media (CD-ROM springs to mind), and check against that. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86 9D 02 4D A6 1E B8 A2 17 9

Re: Problems with the current source packaging scheme

1997-05-19 Thread Tom Lees
-rc package, the debian/rules file does not do *anything* for build, and for binary, just copies stuff into the right place. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86 9D 02 4D A6 1E B8 A2 17 9D 4F 9B 89 D6 finge

Re: libc6 migration -- xlib

1997-05-20 Thread Tom Lees
-only "dlltools" package now? :-) No. It is needed to build a.out versions of, e.g. svgalib. Some older binary-only programs only come in a.out format (Doom, for example) :(. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerp

Re: rm -r * and the default prompt

1997-05-21 Thread Tom Lees
ecially by a typo, like mistyping rm /etc/*~ as rm /etc/*... I did that once :(. -- Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86 9D 02 4D A6 1E B8 A2 17 9D 4F 9B 89 D6 finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for full public key (also availa

Re: config packages [Was: rm -r * and the default prompt]

1997-05-21 Thread Tom Lees
27;t be affected by changing the "theme". Nice idea, maybe we should add a scheme like this (implementation etc.) to the objectives for hamm. > I don't see the reason why you don't like the idea of Config packages. > Can you elaborate a little more on that, please? It

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-23 Thread Tom Lees
really cool to integrate this into deity. > - Some sort of package-grouping mechanism for dselect > - New run-level layout (???) [12] > - No bug reports older than 9 months at release time And another one:- * Official Debian logo to be chosen Footnotes 1, 4, 5, and 7 ca

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-24 Thread Tom Lees
). only the textdb should be used. > d) think about getting rid of some config files only used by shell > scripts, and use the textdb instead. > > > Footnotes 1, 4, 5, and 7 can be removed AFAIK. > > what about footnote 10 (cu* devices) ? debian 1.3 has no call out > devices ! (*evil

Re: runlevels [was Re: Upcoming Debian Releases]

1997-05-26 Thread Tom Lees
7;t start after changing HW. After I > explored runlevel 4 was empty, I was far from being polite... Agreed. I think a better way than doing runlevels directly in packages, though, may be to set a package startup script's "type" - minnet, netclient, netse

Re: Splitting debian-user (was Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO...)

1999-10-06 Thread Tom Pfeifer
ike the idea of reading one list and being able to beneift from the experiences of people running both distributions. Occasionally when I want to know more about the "bleeding edge", I'll subscribe to debian-devel for a while and see what's going on. Tom

Re: better RSYNC mirroring , for .debs and others

2000-03-09 Thread Tom Rothamel
On 9 Mar 2000 12:56:29 -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: > tom rothamel is working on a project called debdiff that works towards the > same goal. please read his announcment thread, which is archived at > http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-0002/msg00391.htm. The code associated

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