Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian

2003-04-21 Thread Mark Rafn
list all of their names. That would be fully within the > letter of the GPL. I'm not sure even this is required. It seems reasonable, and I'd expect most modifiers would do this. However, it may be an "appropriate notice" to just say "this work is copyright (c) 2003 by multiple authors, see "AUTHORS" for details. IANAL, so I don't know where the edge is here. -- Mark Rafn[EMAIL PROTECTED]<http://www.dagon.net/>

Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian

2003-04-23 Thread Mark Rafn
vertising during program execution of a tool or on module load is non-free if it can't be changed/removed (within the limits of GPL section 2c). That said, I'd prefer Debian NOT remove such advertising, only that we guarantee users the right to do. -- Mark Rafn[EMAIL PROTECTED]<http://www.dagon.net/>

Re: Non-debian running DD's (Was: Re: stop abusing debconf already)

2003-04-25 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 09:08:03AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 24-Apr-03, 13:31 (CDT), Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > when did windows become the native OS on x86? > Just to be difficult: The original "OS" for the IBM PC was DOS[1], and > if you track the lineage, I think

Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++

2003-04-26 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 10:08:12AM -0400, Bart Trojanowski wrote: > For openssl there is a huge improvement. I was doing benchmarks on > openssl (they were done for internally at a company I no longer work OpenSSL can (and already does) drop in the CPU-specific variants at run time in an ABI-com

Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++

2003-04-26 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 10:55:08AM -0400, Bart Trojanowski wrote: > * Darren Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030426 10:26]: > > 486SX. > I thought that in-kernel emulation would have solved the gap between 486 > DX and SX. It works just as well for 386SX as for 486SX. -- "You grabbed my hand and we

Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++

2003-04-26 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 12:53:04PM -0400, Bart Trojanowski wrote: > re 'at run time': Does that mean that at compile time there are > multiple snippets of functionally-equivalent code compiled to support > varied run-time arch's? The support is actually in the runtime linker. libssl is compiled

Kernel 2.5

2003-04-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Hi all I've configured and built the kernel, using gcc-2.95, make bzImage and modules, installed modules under /lib/modules/2.5.68. Everything goes fine except for a bunch of depmod errors during the 'make modules_install' which I'm guessing is because the new modules don't match the running ke

Re: Kernel 2.5 boot failure [SOLVED]

2003-04-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
se. Thanks Bart, Mark -- 'Try to relax and ENJOY the crisis.' - Ashleigh Brilliant

Re: fixed libstdc++5 package

2003-04-30 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 09:23:39AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Btw, looking at the reports, I see 30 submitted from i386 architectures, > one from a powerpc machine, none from other architectures, although all > architectures are affected. Conclusions? ;-) Users of non-i386 architectures are g

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 01:29:00AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 05:41:40PM -0600, Jack Moffitt wrote: > > Perhaps an easy thing to do would just be to show whether or not a > > pckage is signed by a key which is signed by a real debian developer. > Surely getting that sign

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:37:46PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: > If I understand well, you are bored because you think that the layout used > in french could be good in all languages, but the french translators sort of > kept it for themselves. > But we didn't do that because we don't think that

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 01:27:45PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > We have a similar expression in (American) English. It's a "tempest in > a teapot". "Storm in a teacup" for British English. -- "You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a daydream - or a fever." pgpI2L6hffi5p.pgp Descr

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-14 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:46:47PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Unless there's a strong preference to keep things the way they are, I'd > like to prepare a patch to change that -- so speak up now. Many e-mail clients require the user to explicitly open an attached e-mail message in order to v

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-14 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 02:24:25PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Usually this is controlled by the Content-Disposition: header. > "Content-Disposition: inline" should be displayed inline; > "Content-Disposition: attachment" will often be hidden until explicitly > opened. Assuming the mail client p

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-14 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 03:58:44PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > attachment at the top than to scroll down to some random place near the > end of a message (depending on how large the close message actually is), > you should switch clients. ;-) Not everyone will be able to do that, of course.

Re: security in testing

2003-05-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 05:37:51PM -0700, Keegan Quinn wrote: > Hmm. Funny how myself and every admin I know have only very minor issues > with > running unstable. What, pray tell, makes it such an 'obvious' non-option for > end users? Well-timed unstable snapshots are often more 'stable' th

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:09:08AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > I think it is proper to include translated man pages with original man > pages, and to use apt-localepurge (now) or dpkg exclusions (when they're > implemented) if people are worried about space. My gut feeling is that I believe this

Re: security in testing

2003-05-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 10:08:03AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > package to re-install. If you're not a developer, you don't have > access to archives, so your choice is to either go back to the stable > or testing version of the package, or try to find a mirror that still With the pool system t

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-21 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 10:12:52AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > But you cannot know what the situation is, unless you have insider > knowledge, the votes are secrets, and the results published only after > the election is closed. This doesn't change the fact that there is a chance that by voting

2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

2001-04-25 Thread Mark Purcell
first as I'm sure there are others who are having the same problem. Mark CONFIG_INET_ECN Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) allows routers to notify clients about network congestion, resulting in fewer dropped packets and increased network performance. This option adds ECN support

Re: NMUers: STOP BEING STUPID

2001-04-25 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:05:00AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I shouldn't have to add my name to the list of maintainers whose > > > packages should never be NMUd. > > IS there such a list? I don't think there should be. > Yes: > http://bugs.d

Bug#95209: ITP: ipcheck - dnydns.org client to register dynamic IP address

2001-04-25 Thread Mark Purcell
DNS primer <http://www.technopagan.org/dynamic/> has been written by an outside party, and gives a pretty good, if somewhat technical, explanation of dynamic DNS, what it is, and how it works. -- Mark Purcell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:17:20 +1000 pgpwd

Re: ash word-splitting changes break shell scripts

2001-05-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 07:09:46PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Perhaps because we need a POSIX compliant shell? > There are only two reasons that a change goes into ash. It's either for > standard-compliance or optimisation. If you wish to make a version of ash which is minimally-compliant it wo

Re: libgal sonames

2001-09-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 05:30:52PM +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > On Sat, 2001-09-01 at 16:35, Mark Brown wrote: > > Well, yes but that goal could be accomplished by statically linking the > > library. Though if upstream think it makes sense to have it shared > > you're k

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 03:40:03AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > that leaves the question to: how often is the default locale.gen file > altered in locales? i would guess not all that often, therefore your > not going to be asked about it very often. It changes relatively often, actually. -- "Y

Re: ddts: notification about pt_BR-translation of the hello-debhelper description

2001-09-05 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 08:46:12PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote: >Sorry, but if some maintainers complain about this mails (without >real work on there site) now, they don't make a good work in the >future. To be honest, I find it more annoying getting form mails like the notification

Bug#112641: ITP: hpoj -- HP OfficeJet Linux driver (hpoj)

2001-09-18 Thread Mark Purcell
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-18 Severity: wishlist * Package name: hpoj Version : 0.8 Upstream Author : David Paschal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://hpoj.sourceforge.net * License : GPL V2 Description : HP OfficeJet Linux driver (hpoj)

Problem with static lib/global constructors in apt under cygwin

2001-09-18 Thread Mark Paulus
Hi, I'm trying to build apt-0.5.4 from the unstable branch under cygwin, and I've got most of the little compile time bugs worked out. However, apt-get doesn't run. It comes back with a message, "Unable to determine a suitable system type", which I have traced back to the fact that the global p

Re: Info on activity

2001-09-19 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:58:37PM +0200, Mikael Hedin wrote: > Thanks. No info there though. Isn't there an activity list somewhere > also? Maybe this should be on some internal page? Or something like > /org/README? You can find such data in the Debian LDAP database (for example, by loggin

Re: [Maxima] Future of maxima

2001-09-19 Thread Mark Rahner
r. Heck, I don't have time to read this mailing list. But maxima is a very useful tool, so I encourage folks to follow up with this. Clearly, the underlying algorithms are the most important aspects of the tool. However, a simple GUI front end with basic on-line help would be a highly desirable addition. This addition would make this wonderful tool approachable by a much wider audience. -Mark

Re: package lists for older machines

2001-12-22 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 06:15:11PM -0600, Adam Majer wrote: > On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 06:57:54PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > > and a tool should be able to filter Packages.gz according to these > > requirements. "Give me all packages that will run satisfactorily on my > > P166 with 32 MB". > How w

Re: Quake 2 sources GPL'd

2001-12-23 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 01:44:23PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > I checked a handful and they are all optional. Optional seems correct > to me; extra is (from memory) for packages which require add-on hardware > or which conflict with standard or higher priority packages, which > doesn't apply to

Re: An alarming trend (no it's not flaimbait.)

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 01:57:17AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As debian "caught up" on versions, CDRToaster became > increasingly buggy. The last modification that I saw to it over > a year ago was to let it support > 8x CDR drives. I personaly > took the time to pat

Re: Bug#126498: ITP: spambouncer -- a powerful user-based anti-spam solution

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 08:24:52AM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > but how is this going to work in a stable release? A badly-outdated copy > of SpamBouncer isn't terribly useful, and is even mildly dangerous if > you have it configured to automatically send complaints. Fortunately, the program has

Re: Bug#126498: ITP: spambouncer -- a powerful user-based anti-spam solution

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 05:41:24PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.12.26.1724 +0100]: > > Maybe the answer is obvious to experienced package developers, but what > > is the "easy way" you plan to handle SpamBouncer's frequent updates? > i was si

Re: Bug#126498: ITP: spambouncer -- a powerful user-based anti-spam solution

2001-12-27 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 10:12:18PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > (mark should possibly credit...) I'm not entirely sure how original the quote is to Godspeed, and in any case it works a lot better without an attribution. -- "You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a da

Re: An alarming trend (no it's not flaimbait.) (fwd)

2001-12-27 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 05:44:38AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote: [Discussing removal of bitrotted packages] > Usually we only get involved in discussions like this for orphaned > packages, at least so far. Back when the committee was alive it (or at least some members of it) did do some stuff along

Re: An alarming trend (no it's not flaimbait.) (fwd)

2001-12-27 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 04:14:46PM +0200, Juha Jäykkä wrote: > I wonder how this could happen in the first place: if CDRToaster > depended properly on mkisofs version <= whatever, then upgrading > mkisofs should remove CDRToaster. Why should CDRToaster expect mkisofs to randomly change its inte

Re: Preparing a Proposal: 3 DD needed for every NEW package

2001-12-29 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 10:16:04AM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lenart Janos) writes: > > Other thing: there might be a need for a new Priority (or re-arrange the > > current ones). I mean, something like 'Priority: zero' or something like > > that, so they won't even go to the

Re: Preparing a Proposal: 3 DD needed for every NEW package

2001-12-29 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 12:45:54PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > I can see how removing bad packages helps. How does removing an MIA > maintainer make anything better? I don't know that removing MIA maintainers would help that much but opening up their packages so that other people could

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 03:26:10AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Jonathan Hseu wrote: > > - Wouldn't the binaries be more trusted if they came from auto-builders > > anyways? > > So that way a maintainer can't just stick something in there that's not in > > the > > source code.

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 02:05:05AM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > a clean chroot will solve that one for you. besides, the buildd's may > still have an un-listed build dependency, from a previous build. It would still be nice to have the external check. -- "You grabbed my hand and we fell

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 08:19:24PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Are we trying to force users to use binary packages that even the > maintainer of the package has not tried to install/run ? We do all the time. I expect the majority of the packages on the machine I'm typing this on have not bee

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

2002-01-01 Thread Mark Purcell
it would of been nice to see some dicussion on debian-devel before the upload of libpng3 to unstable 'broke' all our pacakges. Mark On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 10:30:31PM +0100, Jasper Spaans wrote: > Package: kmerlin > Version: 0.3.1-4 > Severity: important > > When running

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

2002-01-01 Thread Mark Purcell
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 06:50:03PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 19:39:07 +1100 Mark Purcell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The solution is rather simple, requiring recompilation to > > get the correct linkage to libpng3, but it would of been nice t

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

2002-01-02 Thread Mark Purcell
I would like to see an automated bug report stating what the issues are and how the maintainer can fix it. That's what I got during the last update to python and it made my life as a maintainer straight forward. Rather than having to guess some non-backwards compatable change in an

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

2002-01-02 Thread Mark Purcell
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 01:06:21PM +0100, Noel Koethe wrote: > On Mit, 02 Jan 2002, Mark Purcell wrote: > > > > That's the problem; there is just no real solution besides a big > > > recompile. > > > > My question still remains. If we require a big

Re: 2 package(s) to rebuild on i386/stable

2002-01-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 12:40:46PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > Um, they don't need one. All Debian maintainers have access to a > > stable system, since Debian maintains some for just this sort of > > reason. > Debian does not unfortunately. Eve

Re: Some thoughts about problems within Debian

2002-01-06 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 09:15:41PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 11:37:46PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > It's already pretty split-up: we have base, we have standard, and we > That's what I meant to say. The only think we don't have is the release of > base/standard wi

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

2002-01-06 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 01:55:10PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > Actually, I don't think I've ever seen "AltGr" printed on a key, yet all the > keyboards in .hr have the right alt doing that. It's standard on UK keyboards. -- "You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a daydream - or a fever.

Re: Bug (?) on Debian website

2002-01-07 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 05:34:28AM -0600, Jonathan Hseu wrote: > If I search on http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages for the package > openmcl, nothing turns up. I wonder if it's because it's a powerpc-only > package. > Anyone know why? packages.debian.org uses the i386 packages file. -- "Y

Re: postfix/postfix-tls vs. smtpd bug

2002-01-07 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 06:12:23PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > i don't know about another section... why not simply prefix all postfix > manpages with postfix-, so this one would be postfix-smtpd.8.gz That would be completely inconsistent with all other Postfix installations out there and rat

Re: Bug#127252: kmerlin: Nope, it broke it

2002-01-08 Thread Mark Purcell
ng in the next couple of days. If you are really desperate an `apt-get build-dep && apt-get source -b kmerlin` will build your own kmerlin package for you which is usable. Mark

Re: Bug#127252: kmerlin: Nope, it broke it

2002-01-09 Thread Mark Purcell
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 07:38:31PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 07:38:47AM +1100, Mark Purcell wrote: > Ivan decided that libpng3 was the way forward for libqt2 people, but > then Chris (rightly, IMHO) decided that libqt2 would keep libpng2, and > libqt3 would

Re: serious bug. Evolution and Microsoft mentality.

2002-01-09 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 01:47:02AM -0800, Jonathan Walther wrote: > I object to attempts to lock me in to a single MUA. While I'm > evaluating I expect to be able to continue using Mutt until I am > confident enough in Evolution to cut the umbilical cord. Calm down. It could just be a bug and s

Re: serious bug. Evolution and Microsoft mentality.

2002-01-09 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 02:36:01PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > IMO IMAP is still a PITA, AFAIK the only well and out of the box > interoperating combination of MUA and IMAPd is pine together with > uw-imapd which is about as configurable as your sunglasses. With other > Linux combinations yo

Re: serious bug. Evolution and Microsoft mentality.

2002-01-10 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 12:59:34PM +0100, Tomas Pospisek's Mail Lists wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Mark Brown wrote: > > Most things (certainly mutt and kmail, I can't think of anything else I > > tried that gave me problems) interoperate quite happily with both UW >

Re: serious bug. Evolution and Microsoft mentality.

2002-01-10 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 02:30:15PM +0100, Tomas Pospisek's Mail Lists wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Mark Brown wrote: > > kmail and mutt both play happily with both the Courier and UW IMAP > > servers. > I'm talking about cyrus. A while back it was more l

Re: problem with debconf and start-stop-daemon

2002-01-11 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 12:44:39PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote: > In quota.postinst rpc.quotad is started using start-stop-daemon. This works > as longs as I know the package. Now it doesn't anymore. That is the daemon > is correctly started but quota.postinst does not return anymore. It remains >

Re: problem with debconf and start-stop-daemon

2002-01-11 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 01:04:25PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Is this the case for all postinst scripts? db_stop is not mentioned > in my /usr/share/doc/debconf-doc/tutorial.html, which I use as my > debconf reference. No. If your postinst does not leave processes running then there wo

Re: problem with debconf and start-stop-daemon

2002-01-11 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 11:40:28AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Ah, it looks like you need to have a db_stop BEFORE you call > start-stop-daemon or the initscript. Looks like the daemon is dumb and does No, the ordering is unimportant. db_stop stops debconf no matter when you call

Re: problem with debconf and start-stop-daemon

2002-01-11 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 09:45:22AM -0500, Stefan Hornburg (Racke) wrote: > Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Or has called the standard daemon() function which doesn't close all the > > file descriptors. > Yeah, but it is really a bug that should be filed. T

Re: problem with debconf and start-stop-daemon

2002-01-11 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 10:34:18AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > You can't, in general, close *all* open file descriptors. OPEN_MAX > may not exist (and I would guess that it doesn't on the HURD). It's > completely reasonable for a daemon to that doesn't open any extras to > assume that only std

Re: Will woody ever become stable?

2002-01-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 11:00:38AM +, Jules Bean wrote: > I would like to ask our release manager for more information. More > effort is required to herd the kittens. I agree wholeheartedly with this. With previous freezes things like the release critical bugs list have provided a pretty cl

Re: Debbugs and ACK messages

2002-04-04 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 02:19:37AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote: > -quiet doesn't even mail the maintainer, unlike -maintonly - it's mostly > intended for use by maintainers dropping comments into their own bugs. > At the moment it still sends an ack though. Of course, most of the maintainers using

Re: Bug#141070: ITP: aptconf -- debconf infrastructure for setting up apt sources

2002-04-04 Thread Mark Eichin
> So, who wants to add support to apt-spy for querying BGP routing tables? When I worked for Adero, that was *hard* information to get. However, that inspires the thought of another approach: Akamai (the far more successful vendor in that space) already builds pictures of the net from BGP and lo

Re: on potato's proftpd

2002-04-04 Thread Mark Eichin
> will do, sorry. a DOS is still a form of exploit - you exploit One way to clarify your thinking about this: to repair a DOS problem, you simply need to fix the effected service (with a big hammer, like "apt-get remove" or an ip firewall entry, or with more subtle tools like fixing the bug and u

Re: [2002-04-06] Release Status Update

2002-04-06 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 10:24:34PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Over the past few weeks most of the following packages have been removed > from the upcoming release due to bugs and such [0]. > lclint I'm working on an NMU just now. -- "You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a daydr

Re: Bug#141070: ITP: aptconf -- debconf infrastructure for setting up apt sources

2002-04-06 Thread Mark Eichin
> (insert standard promotial rant about Super Sparrow here). google finds supersparrow 0.0.0 from Feb 2001 on supersparrow.org and sourceforge, and nothing more recent -- is there any life to it? it certainly sounds interesting... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Update excuses openh323gk (2.0b2-1 to 2.0b4-1) (mk68k)

2002-04-06 Thread Mark Purcell
kage hasn't been released to testing. Can someone assist in getting the m68k version into the archives?? Thanks, Mark * openh323gk (2.0b2-1 to 2.0b4-1) + Maintainer: Mark Purcell + 11 days old (needed 10 days) + out of date on m68k: openh323gk (from 2.0b2-2)

Re: gmetadom failure on HPPA never reported in update_excuses

2002-04-07 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:24:40AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I'm wondering why the hell "gmetadom" isn't mention as out of data on > hppa in update_excuses which reports only: It's only out of date if it was previously built for an architecture. AFAICT from madison it has never been buil

Re: Orphaned packages in testing which were never in stable

2002-04-07 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:05:07PM +0200, Uwe Hermann wrote: > Chris Cheney indends to adopt the package, yes, but he only mailed > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of properly renaming the bug to ITA. I have this sneaking suspicion that we need a tool more appropriate than the BTS to handle the WNPP

Re: Release notes

2002-04-07 Thread Mark Eichin
> I don't see any harm in making up jigdo files for DVDs --- I don't see Ooh, yes, please - I'd love to be able to make bootable dvds to pass around here [MIT area.] > Of course, if loads of people with DVD writers mail me, I'm likely to be metoo :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: problem with gvd

2002-04-07 Thread Mark Eichin
This is probably the same "missing build-depends for makeinfo" that id-utils was having trouble with... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: The GNU FDL is a free license! (Was: Re: O: gnu-standards --GNU coding standards)

2002-04-07 Thread Mark Eichin
> How about: /usr/bin/latex is a program - my_neat_little_phdthesis.tex is > a file? Actually, /usr/bin/latex is an interpreter. my_neat_little_phdthesis.tex *is* program code, even though the vast proportion of the content will be literal text for output. See Andrew Greene's BASiX (BASIC interp

Re: Scripts in /etc/init.d Question and Comment.

2002-04-08 Thread Mark Eichin
$EUID is a bash-ism; you'd need to run "id" instead. Also, the echo should include the name of the script... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Update excuses openh323gk (2.0b2-1 to 2.0b4-1) (mk68k)

2002-04-08 Thread Mark Purcell
mine. Especially when the page at http://lists.debian.org/ports.html states that the debian-68k is listed as the 'Debian port to m68k'. Maybe you could either get an @lists.debian.org alias for your nocrew.org list or direct reference the @nocrew.org list to it from the ports.html pa

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-08 Thread Mark Eichin
> As far as I can see neither the gcc nor the binutils documentation has > invariant sections. I don't know about KDE. Gcc 3 docs do: gcc-3.0/gcc/doc/gcc.texi has (1) the GPL itself [which we already need some way of dealing with, the text of the GPL isn't DFSG but we include it...] (2) the three

Re: Bug#141070: ITP: aptconf -- debconf infrastructure for setting up apt sources

2002-04-08 Thread Mark Eichin
> That is Horms-versioning. He starts version numbers at 0 instead of I was questioning the "exactly one release which hasn't been touched in 14 months", rather than the actual number; it is a general rule that the first public exposure of something is *not* good enough for real use, and I find it

Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards

2002-04-09 Thread Mark Rafn
on) into Debian. 3) It's hard to imagine many non-software items (again, software=information to me) that can be DSFG-free. > The important trait of a copyrighted work for Debian is its licensing, > not what ontological category someone has elected to place it in. This I also agre

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-10 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:30:08PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: > current (and future) Emacs flavors within the one package, even though > for most people that will be useless data? Not to mention requiring huge amounts of disk space for Emacs packages even though the maintainer is likely to use onl

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-10 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 02:56:08PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Mark Brown wrote: > > Not to mention requiring huge amounts of disk space for Emacs packages > > even though the maintainer is likely to use only one. > Is debian for maintainers or users? Makin

Re: David D.W. Downey - Old Key 42D8F306 Signed by New Key C5A76BF6

2002-04-10 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 07:10:28PM -0700, David D. W. Downey wrote: > Not much more I can do since the old secret key and public keyrings were > lost. It's going to have to suffice as I have taken every step possible > to ensure that the chain of events was totally and completely documented > both

Bug#515125: general: cpu frequency scalling crashes my system

2009-02-13 Thread Mark Poks
Package: general Severity: important i am not sure what exacly causes the problem. it maight be cpufreq, or kernel or maybe something else (or CPU Frequency Scalling Monitor applet in GNOME which is rather in doubt). when enabled "AMD Quiet'n'cool" in BIOS (the CPU frequency scalling) and have in

Re: Should 32-bit apps work with a 64-bit kernel?

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:48:35AM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > Agreed. If we can identify all libraries (perhaps with a simple grep over > the lintian lab?) containing these types, and make sure LFS is enabled in > all of them, it should then be possible to switch once all dependencies > are rebu

Re: Making some tags mandatory

2009-02-27 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:48:30AM +, Enrico Zini wrote: > - For packages with no tags in the control file, take the tags from the >review tag set as we have now Are packages supposed to do this? If they are it'd probably be worth announcing more generally to let people know it's OK to

Re: OSS-only applications

2009-03-04 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 03:43:47PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > Yes. Nevertheless, there is a libsalsa that provides a libasound2 > emulation layer for OSS. I'm not aware of whether it has been packaged > or even whether it is suitable, since I don't run GNU/kFreeBSD anymore. It should do t

Re: [Pkg-mythtv-maintainers] toolame: remove from unstable, update in stable

2009-03-15 Thread Mark Purcell
On Sunday 15 March 2009 22:19:14 Luk Claes wrote: > > 2. Provide an empty toolame package that depends on twolame. > > Preferably in the twolame source package. As the current twolame maintainer. I would be happy with this approach. Mark signature.asc Description: This is a digi

Re: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-21 Thread Mark Hymers
itution. [§4.2(7)] > > (Numbers in brackets are references to sections in the constitution). > ==== > PROPOSAL END Seconded. Mark -- Mark Hymers "Irish police are being handicapped in a search for a stolen van,

Re: packages' config scripts creating files, chroots and buildds.

2009-03-25 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:50:29AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Personally, my first instinct would be to call that an RC bug, but I may > be missing some case where config needs to modify the file system. Given that one of the original goals of all this was to allow the config to be done on a di

Re: Linux-libre for Debian Lenny

2009-04-27 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 01:48:27AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 21:41 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > #494120 and #494122. > [...] > I disagree with these as the tables in question are easily small enough > to be a plausible preferred form for modification. Indeed; this is

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 03:03:10PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Montag, 27. April 2009, Noah Slater wrote: > > * The Debian lists do not have a Reply-To header, > does someone know why? http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ.

Re: Possible mass bug filing: non-doc packages recommending doc packages

2009-05-10 Thread Mark Allums
not the case. High speed Internet access is still a luxury in some countries of the world. Regards Javier Exactly. Like the U.S.A., for instance. Millions of people are still doomed to dialup, here. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

[RFC] userdeb - user accounts as .debs

2009-05-16 Thread Mark Lawrence
st as welcome of course would be patches and/or constructive critism. Please Cc me on any replies as I am not subscribed to debian-devel. Thanks, Mark. NAME userdeb - pack a user account into a Debian package SYNOPSIS userdeb [options] DESCRIPTION userdeb bundles a user

Re: [RFC] userdeb - user accounts as .debs

2009-05-16 Thread Mark Lawrence
On Sat May 16, 2009 at 04:20:20PM +0100, Colin Tuckley wrote: > Mark Lawrence wrote: > > >To include everything in your home directory you add > >a line containing ’*’. However, be aware that > >building a package requires t

Re: [RFC] userdeb - user accounts as .debs

2009-05-16 Thread Mark Lawrence
make. I'm trying to make this a generic solution that doesn't require a user or administrator to delve into the policy manual, and that still completely works within the package system. Interesting idea though with fetching/storing configuration files via a revision control system. I think it woul

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-13 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 07:03:40PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > And after all, debhelper didn't need a DEP at all in order to come into > widespread use, so your worst case scenario could equally well come to pass > without ever going through a public discussion process - there are already a > f

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-14 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 03:03:28PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:28:59PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > It feels like half the problem here is that making it a DEP feels much > > more like something that's being pushed to everyone. If it were going &

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-14 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 04:16:48PM +0100, Noah Slater wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 04:02:49PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > I think you're missing the point here; my point is that one of the goals of > > pushing this through as a DEP comes over as being about greatly

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 06:12:49PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > * `Signed-off-by` (optional) > > This field can be used to document the fact that the patch has been > reviewed by one or more persons. It should list their names and > emails in the standard format (similar to the e

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