Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-28 Thread John Hasler
the brow" it is not protected by copyright. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-28 Thread John Hasler
one and differ from it non-trivially? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-28 Thread John Hasler
Paul Hampson writes: > Patents are civil actions, while copyright violation is criminal,... In the US copyright infringement is usually (not always anymore, but still usually) civil as well. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: Last known forwarding address for Jared Johnson?

2002-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 03:10:09AM +1100, Andrew Lau wrote: > Hey everyone, > Can anyone else shed light on fate of Jared "Solomon" Johnson: > International DD of Mystery? I know both the owner of futureks.net and (a bit) Jared. I'll do some digging and let you know. -- John

Re: Bug#171463: ITP: veejay -- A tracking tool for arranging video samples

2002-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 05:21:09PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > Description : A tracking tool for arranging video samples > > > > VeeJay is a video tracking tool for Linux similar in concept to > > FastTracker (DOS) and ProTracker (Amiga). > > Your description looks good to me, except

FW: Re: FW: Last known forwarding address for Jared Johnson?

2002-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
rumors, i guess) > > You might just want to ask on debian-devel. > > Greetings, > Erich > > - End forwarded message - > > -- > --- > * Andrew "Netsnipe" LauComputer Scie

ecartis up for adoption

2002-12-03 Thread John Goerzen
Hello, I have decided that since my mailing lists are not currently hosted on Debian, I don't have the time/resources/testing platform that I used to for maintaining Ecartis, and I would like some qualified person to take over maintenance of this package. Thanks, John

Re: ecartis up for adoption

2002-12-04 Thread John Goerzen
orks, and is feature-complete, so there's not a lot of major changes going on. -- John

Re: ecartis up for adoption

2002-12-04 Thread John Goerzen
Go ahead, it's yours. Please upload a version with a new Maintainer: line that closes WNPP O bug 171621. Thanks, John Goerzen On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 07:01:22AM +0100, Martin Loschwitz wrote: > On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 02:46:01PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > Hello, > > >

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-04 Thread John Hasler
with fixed-width typefaces is an attempt to approximate that. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-04 Thread John Hasler
Daniel Burrows writes: > On the other hand, a proper markup language would be nice. I would be appalled were such a thing to be required. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-12-05 Thread John Hasler
otocol? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread John Hasler
level mailreader programs such as elm, pine, mailx or Emacs (which has Rmail and VM as mailreaders) installed. If you wish to send messages other than just to other users of your system you must also have appropriate networking support, in the form of IP or UUCP. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-12-05 Thread John Hasler
file is probably unenforceable. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-12-06 Thread John Hasler
ragraph explains one reason why it might not be. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Pre-linux Windows program - was Re: bill gates Linux

2002-12-08 Thread John Lines
information on the hardware, such as graphics cards, and some things related to the user, such as language settings and time zones. These could be written to a floppy and used to supply the information which Debian Installer will need (a bit like a RedHat Kickstart floppy) John Lines

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-12-08 Thread John Hasler
ell me what I am missing? BTW the copy of the file on my system (installed by perl-modules) lacks the apparently required disclaimer. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

DR John cabor

2002-12-09 Thread john cabora
FROM: HON DR John cabor >Dear Sir A Brief Intreduction of my self, I am hon Dr John cabora. A diplomant from the republic gabon, also the owner of trans Atlantic crossing company. > I am contacting in respect of your consignment /fund that is with me as a diplomat I don`t have prob

Why is openoffice in Contrib?

2002-12-10 Thread John Goerzen
contrib on a CD, FTP site, or *anything* for that matter. The inclusion of contrib on CDs is a direct break with the conventions we have established in our existing Social Contract and our way of making that work, and if anything, highlights the need to excise these grafted-on pieces of software from our archive. -- John

Re: stop the "manage with debconf" madness

2003-04-18 Thread John Hasler
would be the easy way for maintainers. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: stop abusing debconf already

2003-04-21 Thread John Hasler
Don Armstrong writes: > I (apparently incorrectly) presumed that debconf was also intended to > allow for the eventual automation of replicated Debian installations. I distinctly remember reading exactly that. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian

2003-04-22 Thread John Hasler
is because like most people he does not understand how decentralized Debian is. There seems to be a widespread belief that packages are added to Debian at the direction of a central authority. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian

2003-04-22 Thread John Hasler
Adrian writes: > Well, doesn't the GPL say something on it being illegal to impose > additional restrictions on distribution? Original authors can add external restrictions, though the result is generally incompatible with other GPL software. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (

Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian

2003-04-22 Thread John Hasler
a statement which appears to accuse Debian of infringing his copyright. We must resolve that or remove the package. I don't see how we can resolve it until we get a clear statement of the problem. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian

2003-04-22 Thread John Hasler
Craig writes: > I think the accusation of trolling holds up quite well. It's still better to let the reader work it out for himself. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

cupsys testing : missing cupsomatic : fix

2003-04-24 Thread John Mettraux
cupsomatic-ppd 0.20010420-4 ii cupsys 1.1.19candidat ii cupsys-bsd 1.1.19candidat ii cupsys-client 1.1.19candidat ii cupsys-driver- 4.2.5-2 ii libcupsimage2 1.1.19candidat ii libcupsys2 1.1.19candidat John

Re: Only .changes files are readable in NEW/

2003-04-24 Thread John Hasler
t US law. Cryptographic software may not be made available for download until it has been "registered" in some silly way. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-15 Thread John Hasler
Steve Langasek writes: > I dunno, I've always found use of Outlook to be a fairly good predictor > of bug-reporting cluelessness (use of reportbug being another :). What's your objection to reportbug? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: Questions regarding utf-8

2003-05-15 Thread John Darrington
I have a neural net program ( http://www.nongnu.org/libann/doc/libann_6.html#SEC26 ) which does something similar: Given a text file, it will attempt to guess the natural language in which it was written. I'm sure it would be fairly simple to modify it to guess the charset. If you point me to a

Re: NMUers: STOP BEING STUPID

2001-04-24 Thread John Goerzen
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I shouldn't have to add my name to the list of maintainers whose > > packages should never be NMUd. > > IS there such a list? I don't think there should be. Yes: http://bugs.debian.net/ > The NMU was buggy, but with all due respect it appears tha

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread John Hasler
Anthony Towns writes: > ...what would people think of making a task-emacs and moving both tetex > and emacs out from standard? As an emacs user I think this is an excellent idea, but I worry that such stretching of the definition of "task" may confuse users. -- John Hasler

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread John Hasler
Matt Zimmerman writes: > I think Emacs as a task makes good sense. I think getting it out of standard makes good sense, but I'm not convinced that it makes sense as a "task". -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread John Hasler
on his Web page install task-devel-emacs? That's obviously for people who want to hack on emacs. How about an ordinary meta-package named "emacs"? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-05-01 Thread John Hasler
Matt Zimmerman wrote: > Perhaps it would be useful to create a new archive section for Debian-specific > tools. Christian Hammers writes: > I like this idea. Do others have other opinions about this? I like it also. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: BTS feature?

2001-05-01 Thread John Hasler
ose feature would be quite popular with maintainers of packages that receive large numbers of spurious or duplicate bug reports. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-05-01 Thread John Hasler
to install another package. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread John Galt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Enough said. Fuck him. On Wed, 2 May 2001, Gerrit Pape wrote: >http://cr.yp.to/distributors.html - -- Sacred cows make the best burgers Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for

Re: Two debconf issues

2001-05-02 Thread John Galt
did to install-mbr... - -- Sacred cows make the best burgers Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBOvDNXB9mehuYcOjMEQKooACfVLZgJEzIt1Q2tjlY/A3MuiB+uL4AnArk YhCCMj6Qzd3LarvSunYR2mpA =DtWS -END PGP SIGNATURE-

Chrony mailing list needs a home

2001-05-04 Thread John Hasler
The chrony mailing list is a "Yahoo Group" at the moment. This less than optimal. Does anyone have any suggestions as to where to look for a (free) home? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: Chrony mailing list needs a home

2001-05-04 Thread John Hasler
Joey Hess writes: > Well I guess you could use sourceforge. I assume that the author has his reasons for not wanting to use Sourceforge. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: Chrony mailing list needs a home

2001-05-04 Thread John Hasler
Carlos Laviola writes: > Register your project... Not my project. I'm just the Debian maintainer. I was just trying to do the upstream author a favor. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-02 Thread John Galt
Very limited scope. Not many configuration > options. > > Would I like to find a co-maintainer for wmaker? Yes. Celestia? No. > My criteria for considering co-maintainership is simple: "Can I cover > all the possible ways of using this package myself?" > > [0] We never finished that conversation at Linux Tag. > > -- EMACS == Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

Re: xplanet can use ssystem image file!

2001-09-11 Thread John Galt
ket to the Mars... RFC 1607 describes how to do it I think it's not due for at least four more years. >;) >Marcus > > -- void hamlet() {#define question=((bb)||(!bb))} Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED] that's who!

Re: HW Probe

2001-09-11 Thread John Ericson
On Sep 10 13:53, BERNARDES,JOAN (Non-HP-Brazil,ex1) wrote: > Can I use anaconda on my bootable CD? Is it free? Im pretty sure Red Hat GPL all there stuff, this is the major reason why we now have mandrake linux. -- * John Ericson [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ICQ: 7325429 JID: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-13 Thread John Hasler
brazilian for Brazil... -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-13 Thread John Hasler
re is no one to one relationship between languages and nations, or even a one to many relationship. Are US spanish speakers to be told that they must live in Spain just because they asserted that their preferred language was spanish? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill

Public Shell

2001-09-14 Thread John Salerno
I'm interested .. please contact me directly. Thanks, John Salerno, CEO bigVAULT Storage Technologies, Inc. Voice (631)864-3636

Bug#112491: general: sawfish requires a package for SHAPE extension, but does not have a dependency.

2001-09-16 Thread John Hurst
Package: general Version: -u 20010917:092115 Severity: important [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/ajh 501 $ sawfish sawfish: your X server doesn't suppot the SHAPE extension; aborting -- System Information Debian Release: testing/unstable Kernel Version: Linux hawthorn 2.4.2-2 #1 Sun Apr 8 20:41:30 EDT 20

Re: sox sucks !

2001-09-16 Thread John Galt
-w write Output as WAV file case sensitive... > :[ ! > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ mpg123 --longhelp 2>&1 |grep wav >-w --wav Writes samples as WAV file in (- is stdout) >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ > >Admit you have to know it ... > > -- The Internet must be a medium for it is neither Rare nor Well done! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">John Galt

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-19 Thread John Hasler
ot; maps to: Please choose a language a) english b) spanish and a) would map to en_US and b) to es_US. > I believe that en_UK would be for Ukrainian english. The mind boggles. Well, kdelibs2g installed /usr/share/locale/en_UK/LC_MESSAGES/kde.mo here. --

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-19 Thread John Hasler
Steve Langasek writes: > en_UK is English as spoken in the United Kingdom. While en_GB is english as spoken in Great Britain. Perhpas one of the residents thereof can explain the difference. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-19 Thread John Hasler
blurred. Yes. I was interested in the difference between the two dialects of english :) > However, it appears to be that "Great Britain" comprises England, > Scotland and Wales, whereas "United Kindom" adds Northern Ireland to > that. Surely there are locales fo

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-20 Thread John Hasler
Nick writes: > So using "GB" as a country code is incorrect, as Great Britain is *NOT* a > country, really. You better have a talk with the ISO about that. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-20 Thread John Hasler
. I assume residents of Northern Ireland supposed to use GB? BTW, there appears to be no Welsh locale. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-21 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > Surely there are locales for welsh and Scottish gaelic? Keith G. Murphy writes: > I should think not. Those are two *very* different Celtic languages. Nor did I say otherwise. Read my sentence as "Surely there is a locale for welsh and also a locale for Scottish gaelic

Re: ITP: kernel-patch-selinux

2001-09-24 Thread John Hasler
://www.nsa.gov/selinux/license.html makes it very clear that the license terms are DFSG compliant. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: ITP: kernel-patch-selinux

2001-09-24 Thread John Galt
t;been advised of the possibility of such damage. I acknowledge that this is a >reasonable allocation of risk. > > -- I can be immature if I want to, because I'm mature enough to make my own decisions. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Quake 2 sources GPL'd

2001-12-22 Thread John Hasler
ot; type example. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: NNTP gateway to Debian lists

2001-12-25 Thread John Hasler
sing something like mailagent. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: postfix/postfix-tls vs. smtpd bug

2002-01-08 Thread John Lines
but for people who need it the flexibility makes up for it. John Lines p.s. hope to upload an update to smtpd which fixes the install this week.

Gopher Turns 10; Gopher 3.0 (FurryTerror) Released

2002-01-09 Thread John Goerzen
right notice in "COPYING" into "copyright" * Updated copyright files, etc. with current info. * Updated the locales with semi-current copyright stuff. * Updated greeting in gopher and gopherd. * This is Gopher 3.0.0, the Furry Terror release. -- John Goerzen Tue, 8 J

Re: serious bug. Evolution and Microsoft mentality.

2002-01-09 Thread John Hasler
> Evolution added an X-Evolution header to each message for status > purposes. Merely _looking_ at a message with Evolution alters it? That is _truly_ evil. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

searching for Raul Miller

2002-01-14 Thread John Lapeyre
Does anyone know if Raul Miller is active ? I and others have looked for him a bit. He took over pdl from me a couple years ago. I'd like to get it back (if he wants to get rid of it, of course). I sent a mail a few days ago and didn't hear anything. Thanks, John

Re: dialog alternatives

2002-04-14 Thread John Hasler
xdialog program up to the > sysadmin? Is xdialog _fully_ dialog-compatible? I had pppconfig set up to use gdialog when available for a while but I had to drop it because gdialog kept breaking. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: dialog alternatives

2002-04-14 Thread John Hasler
Sean Middleditch writes: > Perhaps bugs should be filed against them, for their lack of > compatibility, if indeed there are problems? I filed a bug against gdialog (gnome-utils, to be exact) with a complete set of patches a long, _long_ time ago. I haven't looked at xdialog latel

Re: dialog alternatives

2002-04-14 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > I haven't looked at xdialog lately. I just did. It almost works. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dialog alternatives

2002-04-14 Thread John Hasler
t as the default. It is still available via 'pppconfig --gdialog'. > There are no filed bugs on gnome-utils regarding missing functionality... I'm pretty busy with real life right now, but feel free to run 'pppconfig --gdialog', observe the results, and file bugs with patc

Re: dialog alternatives

2002-04-15 Thread John Hasler
o if > we want something to be fixed, we will probably havt to do it ourselves. Perhaps you should offer to take it over, or just fork it. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dialog alternatives

2002-04-16 Thread John Hasler
Jochen writes: > Sorry! Maybe I did not give your patches enough credit. The credit doesn't matter. It's just that the fact they weren't mentioned in the changelog led me to believe that they had not been applied. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood,

bonvacance.nl now links to you

2009-02-25 Thread John Palmen
tiehuis in Frankrijk. Best regards, John Palmen Bonvacances http://www.bonvacance.nl - j...@bonvacance.nl Sweelinkcplein 21 2517 GM DEN HAAG Tel. 070-3520700 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-02-26 Thread John Goerzen
does. If your code wasn't Free Software, then we wouldn't be using it in the first place. ISTR that your code WAS free, but now isn't. So please do not tell us to adopt your source tree for main because a fork is illegal. The cognitive dissonance in that statement is amazing.

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-02-26 Thread John Goerzen
Joerg Schilling wrote: > John Goerzen wrote: > >> Joerg Schilling wrote: >> >>> The fork distributed by Debian may however be called dubious: >>> >>> - The fork is in conflict with the Copyright law and thus may not be >>> legally dist

Re: Proposed hook to tag bugs as pending

2009-03-26 Thread John Goerzen
ding when you git push. I can post the source if anyone's interested. -- John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Bug#521425: ITP: gutenmark -- Attractive formatter for Project Gutenberg ebooks

2009-03-27 Thread John Goerzen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Goerzen * Package name: gutenmark Version : 20090216 Upstream Author : Ronald S. Burkey * URL : http://www.sandroid.org/GutenMark/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : Attractive formatter for

Bug#521426: ITP: mobiperl -- Generate and manipulate MobiPocket/Kindle files

2009-03-27 Thread John Goerzen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Goerzen * Package name: mobiperl Version : latest svn Upstream Author : Tommy Persson * URL : https://dev.mobileread.com/trac/mobiperl * License : GPL3 Programming Lang: Perl Description : Generate and

Bug#524948: ITP: liblastfm -- Last.fm web services library

2009-04-20 Thread John Stamp
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Stamp * Package name: liblastfm Version : 0.2.1 Upstream Author : Max Howell * URL : http://github.com/mxcl/liblastfm/tree/master * License : GPL2+ Programming Lang: C++ Description : Last.fm web services

Re: "Debian is switching to EGLIBC"

2009-05-06 Thread John Goerzen
em. I, for one, have heard just about enough of "Hey developers, we're doing $FOO, and it's already been decided, so put up or shut up" from people. I'd like a little bit more along the lines of "Hey developers, we really think $FOO is a good idea. Here's why

Re: "Debian is switching to EGLIBC"

2009-05-06 Thread John Goerzen
Julien BLACHE wrote: > John Goerzen wrote: > > Hi, > >> I, for one, have heard just about enough of "Hey developers, we're doing >> $FOO, and it's already been decided, so put up or shut up" from people. >> I'd like a little bit more alon

Re: "Debian is switching to EGLIBC"

2009-05-06 Thread John Goerzen
Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On Wed, 06 May 2009 14:21:05 -0500 > John Goerzen wrote: > >> I for one would have appreciated it if, before the upload, you had >> laid out why you're planning to do it here on debian-devel. I don't >> think you would have met a

Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-30 Thread John Goerzen
Package: okular Version: 4:4.2.2-2 Severity: normal I'm CCing this to Debian-devel because I think it speaks to a larger issue. I just downloaded a PDF, and tried to copy and paste a bit of text from it. I used the selection tool, and Okular offered to speak it to me, but said "Copy forbidden by

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-30 Thread John Goerzen
ar as to propose patching it out of Okular entirely. Debian should not be a tool to support software restrictions like this. -- John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Goerzen
rictions (like to > print it for you) you can take additional action to strip DRM. That would seem a quite reasonable compromise to me, as a default option. You can still have a checkbox in preferences for complete enforcement if there is somebody that really wants it, and leave it off by default

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Goerzen
Patch the default to have it disabled 3) Patch the prompt to have an "allow/deny" option 4) Patch the text to tell people where to go to turn it off #2 and #4 especially should be exceptionally trivial patches. Why are you tagging it wontfix, Sune? -- John -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Goerzen
Ana Guerrero wrote: > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 08:32:25AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: >> In any case, I think it was very premature to tag this wontfix. > ... > >> Why are you tagging it wontfix, Sune? >> > > I do not see this as premature at all. We, KDE maintai

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Goerzen
my mind. Okular is run by the Debian user. As our social contract states, "Our priorities are our users and Free Software." We can, and should, take the high road on this and make sure our users have maximum functionality by default. -- John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-deve

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Hasler
John Goerzen writes: > 1) Remove the DRM feature entirely Please don't call it DRM. It's just advisory locking. IMHO not enabling it or omitting it entirely has no legal implications. (I think it should be off by default with an option to turn it on but that's just my irre

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Hasler
people "DRM" has to do with music and videos. > This for sure doesn't help about the current discussion. I just wanted to clarify the point that this advisory locking is not DRM. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Goerzen
John Hasler wrote: > Pino Toscano writes: >> I'm just curious to know: if you don't use the package, how can you express >> an >> opinion on it? > > I commented on the misuse of the term DRM to describe the advisory locking > that is the subject of thi

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Goerzen
to a good enough level of understanding to actually > be > able to update the patch. First off, if upstream ever drops the patch, it is no worse than the current situation. Secondly, this is an incredibly trivial patch. It is changing one word "true" to "false&qu

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Goerzen
Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2009-05-31 09:05:10, schrieb John Goerzen: >> Could you share your reasoning with us, specifically why you don't like >> each of the four options I mentioned? (Reproduced below) >> >> 1) Remove the DRM feature entirely > > And

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Hasler
Michelle Konzack writes: > In the USA... Not in Germany and France. Ignoring DRM let you run into > touble here. This is _not_ DRM. It is just advisory locking. It has no more legal significance than "X-please-do-not-copy: yes" in the header of an email message. -- John

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Goerzen
Johan Henriksson wrote: > Mike Hommey wrote: >> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 03:54:29PM +0200, Sune Vuorela wrote: >> >>> On Sunday 31 May 2009 15:32:25 John Goerzen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> #2 and #4 especially should be excepti

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Goerzen
John Goerzen wrote: > In any case, two of the three, at least (xpdf and evince) have a similar > core. It would be something if all three could standardize on poppler, eh? Actually, it appears that okular also uses poppler. But then I also forgot the Ghostscript-based ones: gv, g

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-06-01 Thread John Goerzen
ssing such a solution on IRC as well. There was some indication it might be accepted. -- John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Switching the default /bin/sh to dash

2009-06-24 Thread John Goerzen
lling it back. Not necessarily relevant. They have a reputation (whether deserved or not is a different discussion) of breaking people's machines on upgrade, and don't have the server penetration Debian does either. -- John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.

trying to build debs of Enlightenment for wheezy

2014-07-11 Thread John Holland
sk these questions. If that is the case please direct me to the right place. Also I know there are people working on packaging enlightenment for the project, I am just trying to do this out of my own curiousity. Thanks in advance, -- John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org gpg public key ID 0x9551CF2D

Re: Allow encfs into jessie?

2014-09-12 Thread John Goerzen
ch rest easy that at least my data is safe. Transparent encryption can be an important layer of data security, but it must not start or stop there for those truly concerned about it. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "uns

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-12 Thread John Goerzen
On 09/12/2014 02:27 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Sep 12, 2014, at 07:18 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote: > >> I'm looking forward for systemd-mta. > > It's inevitable. ;) > > http://catb.org/jargon/html/Z/Zawinskis-Law.html > > -Barry Just wait for systemd-emacs. It would obsolete... all of gnuserv!

Re: Migration from cron to cron-daemon?

2014-10-18 Thread John Hasler
Stephan Seitz writes: > So, if I want to write bug reports, what is now the correct expression > for cron? cron-daemon|cron? Don't overthink it. If you are having a problem with cron type "reportbug cron" and follow instructions. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elm

A plea to worry about what matters, and not take ourselves too seriously

2014-11-09 Thread John Goerzen
Good afternoon, This message comes on the heels of Sam Hartman's wonderful plea for compassion [1] and the sad news of Joey Hess's resignation from Debian [2]. I no longer frequently post to this list, but when you've been a Debian developer for 18 years, and still care deeply about the community

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