A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand Run out of steam
Floggings will continue until morale improves. Why are a "wise man" and a "wise
guy" opposites?
Crackerjack Exceptions prove the rule ... and wreck the budget.
Download there http://eloadsfast.com Don't be so open-minded your brains wi
uff... maybe the same problem is
suffered here... would this help anyone to debug it?
anyway, i'm looking forward to sumbitting a working version of vrweb, so
let me know about the proper procedures soon please! thanks!
Paul Harris
hi,
i installed gaby on my uptodate potato system (2.2.11), and it segfaulted.
did a gdb gaby, ran it and it seg faulted in fputs():
0x40435b5d in fputs () from /lib/libc.so.6
althought i don't think thats so unusual, i downloaded the latest gaby
(who is the maintainer? there is a new version out
Package: general
Severity: serious
Justification: Policy 10.1.1
My understanding of the FHS would be that if a library is a dependency of a
binary in /bin or /sbin, then such library belongs in /lib, not
/usr/lib. (If
for some reason the library is also desired in /usr/lib then a sym link from
/li
Wow, if this sort of bug report is re-evoking questions on the whole
relevance of the historical FHS to modern distros, it does seem that
some real "soul searching" is in order on the part of the community as
far as the future of where people see Debian/GNU/Linux headed. "Begin
with the end in m
On 12/14/2011 04:43 PM, J.A. Bezemer wrote:
>
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Roger Leigh wrote:
>
> [..]
>> The same argument applies to encryption. / and /usr both contain a
>> selection of programs, libraries etc. If you're encrypting one, why
>> would you not encrypt all of it?
>
> Speed.
>
> On one o
Ok, ok, ok, I think I may have got it. Some of your comments helped
get me on the proper track of distro-oriented thinking where different
systems are picking and choosing a different subset of available
packages, but those packages have predefined locations where they have
to put things. It has
hi, i'm trying to fix up vrweb, and if successful will apply for adoption
and all that (already talked to the original maintainer).
anyway, the current problem is the conflict between the linux includes and
debian's netinet includes:
/usr/include/linux/byteorder/generic.h:150: previous declaratio
hi again,
thanks Ray for the netinet-includes tips: that bit is compiling nicely now
:)
now, i'm having problems with some fds_bits thingy. what is it used for
and where is it defined? i thought it was in sys/types.h, but the compiler
doesn't seem to see the declaration (little ambiguous to me).
hi
the current problem is involving a function called name2() eg:
from tifs.h
Fieldsdeclare(name2(TIOINETFactoriesBase,Base),TIOINETFactoryPtr)
from fields.h
class name2(TIOINETFactoriesBase,Base) {
see how its used in #defs a
don't go away, i have a "standardising" question for the gurus:
vrweb used a function called name2() that i eventually found in the
libg++2.8.2-dev package in /usr/include/g++-2/generic.h
#define name2(a,b) gEnErIc2(a,b)
#define gEnErIc2(a,b) a ## b
now dselect tells me:
libg++2.8.2-dev - The G
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
* Package name: bedstead
Version : 002.008
Upstream Contact: Ben Harris
* URL : https://bjh21.me.uk
* License : CC0-1.0; parts effectively out of copyright due to age
Programming
I don't understand why the debian developers are undertaking to
maintain debianified version of Perl modules when the CPAN module and
its mechanisms are so much more native to Perl, are well-supported by
the Perl community, etc? Besides, Perl already has it's own automated
upgrade system (CPAN),
Adam> I don't understand why the debian developers are undertaking to
Adam> maintain debianified version of Perl modules when the CPAN
Adam> module and its mechanisms are so much more native to Perl, are
Adam> well-supported by the Perl community, etc?
[Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
>
[You ([EMAIL PROTECTED])]
>About two months ago, I upgraded a CPAN bundle on a production server.
>Two interesting things happened:
>
>(1) perl itself got upgraded, and
>(2) wais got upgraded.
Huh??? Perl itself? I don't think this is possible.
[...]
>Also, there are CPAN modules whose installa
[Brian Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> I was wondering if anyone was working on packaging the University of
> Michigan's LDAP server and client suite. I noticed that hamm does
> not contain anything LDAP related and thought this might be a good
> addition.
According to the debian prospective pack
[You (Hamish Moffatt)]
> Or does any of this matter ? :-)
The issue of keeping Debian bo crunchy and fresh w/o inhibiting the bold
experimentalism of the hamm lineage is critical to Debian's success. I
know a lot of people, even within my company, using Debian in a production
environment, but fr
CPAN bundle on a production server.
>> >Two interesting things happened:
>> >
>> >(1) perl itself got upgraded, and
>> >(2) wais got upgraded.
>
>Adam P. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Huh??? Perl itself? I don't think this is possi
["Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
>> at the time bo was released, the options for the kernel were 2.0.29
>> and 2.0.30. as 2.0.30 turned out to be unstable on some machines,
>> debian decided to use the 2.0.29 kernel. the only problem is :
>> buslogic flashpoint support started with 2.0.
I'm hoping to get my PGP keys signed by a known and registered debian
developer in the NYC area so as to comply with the Debian Developer's
Reference Section 1.2.
I'm located in Manhattan; specifically on the Lower East Side.
Any takers? Please reply to me offline. Thanks.
.A. P. [EMAIL PR
>> For example, with the diff package:
>>
>> Package: diff - cmp works on identical and different binary or text
>> files - diff works on files, directories, normal or 2 column -
>> sdiff correctly merges two files - diff3 correctly compares 3 files
"Philip" == Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
Hello, Mr. Nag. You've probably already been notified of this, but
many of the URLs generated by this `nag' script are incorrect. For
instance, you say:
"Nag" == Nag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The history of this bug can be found at:
> http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/988.html or
Shou
"Fabrizio" == Fabrizio Polacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> We could let the -dev versions of packages have diversions of the
>> libraries to unstripped versions, and have the runtime versions
>> have stripped versions.
Interesting idea. I can't say I'm completely c
Maybe I should submit this as a wishlist to the bug system, but I was
interested in getting some comments first.
I think that /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down should use
'run-parts' against, say, the directories /etc/ppp/ip-{up,down}.d/.
This would allow, for instance, MTA packages to ship li
"Brian" == Brian Mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Adam P. Harris writes:
>>> I think that /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down should use
>>> 'run-parts' against, say, the directories /etc/p
[You (Rob Browning)]
>Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> As the current emacs package installs its libs into
>> /usr/lib/emacs/19.34/..., will moving this below /usr/share break other
>> packages?
>
>I'll certainly make sure that's not a problem before I do it, but so
>far, I doubt i
[You ([EMAIL PROTECTED])]
>FWIW I've been using run-parts in ip-up and ip-down for some time now,
>the scripts reconfigure stuff based on my ip address (2 ISPs) etc.
>and everything works like a charm. I dunno about packages placing
>scripts in ip-[up|down].d/ -- I'd rather put them in
>/usr/do
[CC trimmed to ]
[Raul Miller]
>Hmm.. seems like XEmacs should Provide: auctex. I can't see any
>formal problem if auctex is installed as a separate package as
>well... [Why someone would want to is beyond me.]
What if you have Xemacs *and* Emacs installed, and want to use auctex
from both?
"Philip" == Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My first attempt at this was to add these lines to the scripts:
>
> # These variables are for the use of the scripts run by run-parts
> PPP_IFACE="$1"
> PPP_TTY="$2"
> PPP_SPEED="$3"
> PPP_LOCAL="$4"
> PPP_REMOTE="$5"
> export PPP_IFACE
[You (Adrian Bridgett)]
>We should also standardize the environment variables that are used. Once
>again, if the program doesn't support environment variables, tough -
>although of course maintainers are encouraged to "fix" the programs :-)
Maybe just enforce the standards that are kinda sorta al
[You (Karl M. Hegbloom)]
> I've created a directory "/usr/X11R6/icons" for my own use.
> that we need to have something like that, and a keeper of the icons.
We already have the location, and it is standard:
/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/
There are over 300 pixmaps in there, a good deal of wh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
[snip]
>Currently, on my 386 system...
>
>ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/local/lib (No such file or directory),
>skipping
>ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/i486-linuxaout/libdb.so.1 (No such file
>or direct
>ory), skipping
>ldconfig: warning: ca
I notice a flaw in menu placement for a number of packages which might
be categories as Personal Information Managers (PIMs). Namely, `ical'
and `addressbook' are listed in the `Apps/Tools' category, while
`xmaddressbook' is under `Apps/Misc'.
I can't say I'm extremely happy with either categor
"joost" == joost witteveen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'll give my opinion here, but I'm running very low on time at the
> moment. So, I'll probably not participate in much of this
> discussion untill (well?) after 1998/1/7. Joey Hess also has a great
> feel for these things, and I will gratef
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I intend to take over maintenance of the orphaned `addressbook'
package. I've spoken to the former maintainer, the upstream source
maintainer, and Mssr Fok, who was kind enough to do most the work
that needs to be done on the package, and gotten their blessing.
[Removed CC to ]
[You ("Davide G. M. Salvetti")]
>1) AucTeX has many .el's which should be shipped byte-compiled: should I
>compile them with some specific Emacs flavor or doesn't it matter which
>Emacs I'll use? (Please consider that, AFAIK, XEmacs comes with its own
>AucTeX, so AucTeX should p
[You (Dale Scheetz)]
>On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
>> A loop-root?
>With a small patch to the kernel and some modification of the loop device
>code, you can create a file-system-in-a-file.
You can do this already in stock debian (rex and hamm) with
mount -o loop -t
Why d
"Richard" == Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Shared libraries are linked dynamically against other libraries
>>
>> Linking shared libraries dynamically against other libraries
>> simplifies the upgrading process and saves disk and memory space.
>> All shared libraries included in
[Sorry to be so late reading debian-devel. Please cc
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> next time. I just don't always have time
to keep up on this list.]
Elie Rosenblum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Folks, make sure your prerm scripts don't fail if the install-docs doesn't
> want to uninstall docs that are
On Fri, 23 May 2003 11:58:45 -0300
Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website
> and many others[1] aren't? The Debian Desktop is a good
> initiative, but there are many others that are being
> excluded from the website.I've some ideas:
On Fri, 23 May 2003 17:33:58 -0700
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Debconf" is about Debian developers trying to meet other devels and users.
> Its about trying to make us a stronger organization. Its about hacking and
> all of the other reasons we love Debian.
>
> Treating i
On 24 May 2003 15:40:08 +0900
Masato Taruishi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah, the main point of this package is to create a local ad-hoc package
> which can coexist with its official package. Escpecially, I can manage
> my temporary on-going improvement to some debian package as a debian
> package
On Sat, 24 May 2003 10:19:38 +0200
Enrico Zini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.debian.org/devel/, "Projects" section:
> >
> > * Debian Web Pages
> [...]
> > * Alioth: Debian GForge
> > Certainly seems that they're listed.
>
> The Debian Usability Research seems to be missing:
>
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 15:33:29 +0100
James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Since we're using bug tags for such specific things now wouldn't it make
> >> sense to add per architecture tags so one can search via
> >> http://bugs.debian.org/tag:hppa
> >> for hppa related issues (not that there ar
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:02:39 +0200
Vincent Zweije <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dodging with symlinks is not really a solution, as all the files will
> actually still be in the wrong places.
I believe he meant installing them to the proper locations, and then
making symlinks from there to the "big
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:46:48 +1000 (EST)
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Now I'm wondering about it even more. IMHO `maildirmake' is _very_
> > necessary for any mail and as it seems to be only a 2-line-shell-script
> > why it isn't i
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:27:48 -0300
Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As for my own suggestion, I would say - fix the package. The diff.gz
> > exists for a reason. If you're incapable of fixing it, find somebody who
> > can (and hopefully get them to show you how they did it).
>
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:12:04 +1000 (EST)
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Capable of handling, yes, but then, so is cat.Once delivered, though,
> there's no way of getting it back out again unless you're running something
> like courier or similar.
Or Mutt, or a halfdozen other MUAs
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:04:54 -0500
Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And not only 80386 needs this - There is the Sparc64 port which would
> also benefit from this (http://www.debian.org/ports/sparc/#64bit). If we
> had support for subarchtectures, not only would the ix86 mess be able to
> b
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:53:56 -0600
Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No it doesn't. I've yet to even hear of an architecture that NetBSD runs
> > on but which Linux doesn't. They just have a different definition of
> > "architecture" than us. (ie: our "hppa" may be three or four arches to
>
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 07:57:55 +0800
Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gentlemen, after I installed "Debian GNU/Linux", I found I had to take
> extra steps to get the GNU version of a program installed, as some
> other leading brand alternative was in its stead.
>
> So what is the single com
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:17:57 +0200
Karsten Merker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think ports to other kernels are generally worthwhile in and of
> > themselves, simply for cleaning up the codebase and getting rid of
> > unportable stuff.
> >
> > It's just plain old healthy is all. The previous c
On 03 Jul 2003 13:00:47 +0200
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña]
> > (For those who are not aware of this issue, please read #92810)
>
> There seem to be someone believing that standard documents should be
> treated as software. Standards are not
On 03 Jul 2003 23:45:56 -0500
Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 15:19, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
> > Cameron Patrick wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 02:36:48PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > | Well, once you folks have come up with a definition of "software",
On Sun Jul 06, 04:58pm -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 04:31:22PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 07:13:23PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> > > Would this work just as well?
> > > [example without distribution and urgency]
> >
> > It would wo
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:11:13 +0200
Sebastian Rittau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 05:36:22PM +1000, Anand Kumria wrote:
>
> > General
> > Debian
> > 1 project
> >10 architectures
> > 100 countries
> > 1000 maintainers
> > 1 packages
> >
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:48:48 +1200
Nick Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:46:47AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le mar 08/07/2003 ? 01:15, Matt Zimmerman a ?crit :
> > > > All that's missing is an automatic debconf notice entry for each NEWS
> > > > item.
> > > >
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 10:31:51 +0200
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For sarge we have two options for the default MTA in base:
>
> a. replace exim with exim4
> b. no MTA installed by default, add a MTA task
>
> So do we want there to be a MTA by default?
I would opt for a) personally. Exim
(That's a really long recipient list - does this need only go to
reiserfs-list@namesys.com and [EMAIL PROTECTED])
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:45:09 +0400
Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it now prints two random credits rather than all of them, and credits
> for the developers are in place. s
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:47:06 +0100
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Harris has expressed an interest in this job, and I've talked to
> him about it on IRC, so if he still wants it he's welcome. If anyone
> else is interested, then contact me: a small
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 05:42:06 +0800
Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bdale> ... I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian
> Bdale> developers, sponsored by HP...
>
> Debian may be seen as supporting non-disclosure conditions /
> protected proprietary information / trade secret
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 21:55:07 -0400
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This clause has a direct effect on all users,
> restricting the use of e.g. encrypted filesystems.
>
> That's a new one on me. I don't think the GFDL restricts
> the use of encrypted filesystems.
I have ment
Sorry folks, I CC'd: -devel instead of -legal. God I hate Reply-To:s :)
On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:03:59 -0400
David B Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 21:55:07 -0400
> Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This clause has
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 11:11:37 +1000
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, this is driving me bananas. I go to download the latest
> unstable packages, only to find that apt-get update
> has just retrieved a cached copy of the Packages file that
> (in some cases) can be a month old.
I've seen s
On 05 Oct 2003 13:13:55 +0200
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is no point for me working on those bugs if the patches will
> just rod in the bts or be thrown out so as not to differ from
> upstream. As I said before I won't work on the debian package again
> without an assur
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:04:23 -0400
Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Description : gtk/gnome client for masqdialer server
>
> How about "client for masqdialer"?
>
> >
> > From the freshmeat description:
> > GMasqdialer provides a GNOME/GTK client for the Masqdialer system. The
>
>
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 00:02:47 -0400
Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David B Harris wrote:
>
> > As much as you may dislike it, people care about toolkit. I don't
> > understand the witch-hunt to remove references to such things.
>
> Short description is a
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:44:57 -0400
David B Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Obviously if the short description is too long, something needs to go -
> and in that case, certainly not mentioning the toolkit is reasonable.
> However, in this particular case ("gtk/gnome c
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 02:18:00 +0100
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Uid 31 is reserved forever (speaking as the base-passwd maintainer), but
> new installations of postgresql should have a uid in the system range,
> namely 100-999, as created by 'adduser --system'. See the changelog for
>
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:12:52 -0500
Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have discussed this sub-project extensively at Voxel, and we are
> willing to commit to seeing this idea through - in a manner that allows
> the Debian community to benefit from resources that we put into it. We
> are
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 11:45:35 -0800
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am still negotiating with the large industry group that approached me
> about this project. When the price tag is north of $1M, it takes time.
> If that works out, they would fund 3-5 engineers full-time, plus myself
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 06:27:12 +1100
Zenaan Harkness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Any thoughts on that? Anybody from HP or IBM here want to weigh in?
>
> My primary thought wrt making money from Free Software - make as much as
> we possibly can - at least that's my goal, so that I can provide for
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:53:02 -0800
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Are you still on good terms with some people at HP?
> >
> Yes. Has anyone discussed this with Bdale?
He hasn't participated in the thread yet.
> >I wouldn't mind getting paid well for the work
> >I do, but that's a rari
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:49:20 -0600
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First of all. This is obviously not a Debian project (since it is not
> operating within the Debian framework.) I don't see why this then
> necessitates over a dozen threads on debian-devel -- AND why it gets to
> call it
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 03:18:53 +
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Langasek wrote:
> >But an ssh key on removable media is not vulnerable to keysniffing
> >alone, where a password is.
>
> If such behaviour becomes common, the keysniffers will simply copy
> anything that looks li
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 18:38:25 -0500
Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 15:37, David B Harris wrote:
> > I've also yet to see anybody post their IP address, userid, and
> > password for their publicly-accessible servers to a public mailing list
>
k (have more than one keyword), it meets the original poster's
request.
--
____
\ David B. Harris, Systems administrator | http://www.terrabox.c
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002 12:42:20 -0400
Elie Rosenblum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I also don't see a bug submitted with this. If you're submitting
> NMU's, you sure as hell better be submitting bugs with patches (or
> the fact that no patch is required other than rebuilding with an
> updated system).
>
Hey there :)
I'm starting a new thread about people switching to other distributions.
Why? Because I'd rather we start first with an information-gathering
thread.
I'm shortly going to relate my first-hand knowledge of why people have
switched from Debian, to Gentoo. Everybody else who has any fir
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:58:51 -0500
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The comparison is only fair with organizations that *want* you do do
> so(so not redhat, probably not openbsd, or mandrake, or others whose
> principal developers try to sell cds).
Strictly speaking, given the ISO mirroring
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 23:27:33 +1300
Nick Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Given the ISO mirroring situation"? Care to elucidate?
There being an order of magnitude more package mirrors than ISO mirrors.
Completely ignoring the web site organisation, mind you, it's been
common for a long time f
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 16:06:40 -0500
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem with the net installs isos is mainly that they are
> unofficial and there are several varying cd's produced by different
> folks, and of varying quality (though quality is overall good; I've
> used them happily in
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:55:35 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sami Haahtinen) wrote:
> In the past the only thing that stopped me from doing a build of my
> own from the sources was that debian missed libical.. and now that
> there appears to be libical-dev, i can't see any reason why not
> package it..
Ye
On 04 Dec 2002 12:55:50 -0500
Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://people.debian.org/~walters/descriptions.html
Thanks.
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On 04 Dec 2002 12:55:50 -0500
Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://people.debian.org/~walters/descriptions.html
I do have some differences of opinion, though. It's sad, but there are a
getting to be a fairly large number of DDs who are "attention grabbers".
Just a few days ago, I saw
On 04 Dec 2002 19:19:38 +
Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In correct English grammar and typography the space after a full stop
> ("period" in Merkin) is supposed to be a wider space then that between
> words and after commas and suchlike.
Ahh, allright, so there's still reaso
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:33:35 -0800
Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't see any reason why package descriptions shouldn't be presented
> in variable-width fonts. The right margin might look a bit ragged
> (assuming the program preserves line breaks, which is probably a good
> idea to a
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:13:57 +0100
Michael Piefel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Line breaks already aren't preserved, and there already exist a very
> specific set of rules for that. Look into your documentation, and have
> a look at dselect.
I already have example applications which don't preserve
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:59:09 +0100
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a good search interface in our package interface UIs (good search !=
> search by words).
... as opposed to searching based on the contents of people's minds? :)
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On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 11:51:03 +0100
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is a bad practice to repeat the package name as the first word in
> the long description.
Why is that again?
> Also the URL does not belong into the description but should be
> placed in the debian/copyright file
On Fri Apr 11, 11:47am +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> * Package name: exim-mysql
> Version : 3.36
>
> I already packaged with one (exim compiled with mysql and tls support).
> I needed it personally, with the provided debian exim package a
> recompile is necessary to use a mysql backen
On Fri Apr 11, 02:25pm +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> http://pkg-exim4.alioth.debian.org/
Ack, sorry, I didn't realise you guys were uploading to experimental now
:)
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On Fri Apr 18, 11:15am -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> Perhaps I've been overly strong with the rhetoric. Let me give two
> realistic scenarios where this "manage foo with debconf?" fails.
I like your two real-world examples, and I'd like to present a third.
3) Impatient but advanced user
Someb
Apologies for starting a new thread, I accidentally replied to Colin
privately, and instead of re-writing the email, I simply forwarded it.
Bad clal :)
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On Fri Apr 18, 12:54pm -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> On 18 Apr 2003 11:55:09 -0400,
> >> Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > So, opinions? Yeah, it's kind of gross. But the way things are
> > now is far worse.
>
> As long as /etc/conffiles/managed, /etc/conffiles/unmana
On Fri Apr 18, 05:28pm -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> > 1) Package has a configuration file which can (optionally) be
> > managed
> >debconf/postinst
>
> This is already the way things are now; a package doesn't have to do
> anything special to create configuration files in its postinst.
Yeah,
On Fri Apr 18, 07:06pm -0400, David B Harris wrote:
> I'm thinking in the "may I upgrade your configuration file?" question,
> have the options I mentioned before ("no", "yes", "always-no").
>
> How's that sound? It's unobtrusiv
On Fri Apr 18, 06:37pm -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> If you use ucf like mechanisms, and you acpet the first
> debconf generated file, then you will never be asked to over write
> your file -- since the md5sum of the installed file shall match the
> previous maintainer version. Bingo, w
On Sat Apr 19, 10:22am +1000, Brian May wrote:
> Any ideas?
Share an initscript between them, if that's possible?
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On Sat Apr 19, 11:18am -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 19-Apr-03, 06:47 (CDT), Steve Kowalik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > At 7:22 pm, Saturday, April 19 2003, Denis Barbier mumbled:
> > > I do not understand exactly what is good and bad use of debconf.
> > > For instance all questions asked
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