>
> TOPIC 8: packages have to specify their source urls
> ---
> STATUS: DISCUSSION
>
In addition to what you propose below, I think that "dpkg -I" should be
concerned with some of that info. Specifically, three important fields are
missing:
A
Bruce Perens wrote:
> From: "Scott K. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I have no problem when HTML is the provided upstream documentation source,
> > and don't want to cripple my ability to read that. However, when the
> > upstream source is something else, such as info/texinfo, I don't want HTML
Bruce Perens wrote:
> Rather than make any of lynx, dwww, and boa part of the base system,
> I'd mark them "important". The base system has the sole purpose of
Yes.
> editor the user has selected). In the case of a floppy install, the user
> would probably prefer that we not add another three f
Marco Budde wrote:
>
> CS> Option 3: We ship .texi files and produce HTML and/or info files on
> CS> demand (in the postinst script).
>
> Oh no. That's a very bad idea. All converters like latex2html, sgml-tools,
> texi2html produce not very perfect HTML code. You've to edit the H
e same thing I would do with just a browser, but with
more flexibility.
I seriously suggest that you try it and then decide whether a web server
is such a problem.
Regards,
Fernando
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Is it possible to browse "html.gz" files _without_
> a CGI script with the usual HTML browsers (Netscape, lynx)? If so, we'll
> make it policy to gzip all html files and to adopt the references. If not,
> we'll have to install all html files gezipped--or add a cgi capable
in fact improves the speed compared to man+groff.
Please base policy on facts, not on pre-judgements.
Thanks,
Fernando.
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d manuals is inside XEmacs. :-) Try it
We are not talking about the best way, but a way that works in any system.
Emacs is not it.
> No! You cannot just erase that directory if Emacs or XEmacs are
But you can erase the compiled info files and update the index.
That is what I meant.
Pakckage: perl
Version: 5.001-5
Notes: tried a.out only, happens also with 5.001-4, however 5.001-3 is OK
Perl seems to be confused making some arithmetic operations (additions).
Sometimes the result of $a+=$b, when $a is 0 and $b is 2 happens to be
2.04192 or something similar.
people in this community use "mc" to
mean the former.
5) Personal preference :-) (This point is questionable, I know).
Cheers,
Fernando.
On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, Michael Meskes wrote:
> I'd like to ask the other developers what they think. While I see th elogic
> behind your approach I still think LyX should be an official part of Debian.
Me too. However, I think that the way to accomplish that is to persuade
the XForms authors to r
Actually bandwidth is mesured in bits per second and no bytes per second
On 6/12/07, Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Bandwidth should be quoted in true SI units over a metric of time,
e.g. kilobytes-per-second (e.g. the average UK DSL upload speed is
250kbps == 250,000bp
On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bruce Perens wrote:
[...]
> We can't put stuff like this where just anybody can download it any
> longer. Especially, we can't do that and call it "1.0". This isn't
> entirely Infomagic's fault, in my opinion.
I suggested some time ago to call the directories:
release-0.93
On Tue, 19 Dec 1995, Bruce Perens wrote:
[...]
> What programs are we talking about being compatible with? Not dselect or
> dpkg, which don't care about the filename. I'd hazard that dchanges would
> be easy to fix. Dftp would ask for the feature, as would the dselect
> FTP method.
>
> Am I mi
I was thinking about the parsing problem and I had a new idea, which I
think would be the best solution.
What I think is needed is a reorganization of the Debian tree so that
under the root tree for the distribution we have:
(root-tree)///files(binaries and sources)
For example: /debian-1.1/base
2008/3/27, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On mer, 2008-03-26 at 08:35 -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> > Lenny is still only at linux kernel 2.6.22, which means little support
> > for hardware up to a year old! Sid is not suitable for most people,
> > and most people lack the skills or inclina
Hello,
I'm thinking about advantages and disadvantages of write the
description of the packages using XML.
I think using XML the descriptions can be rendered in different form
for text and graphical tools. The URL of the descriptions can be real
links and, even and the project thinks it is appropia
2008/5/25 Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 02:40:07PM +0200, Fernando Cerezal wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I'm thinking about advantages and disadvantages of write the
>> description of the packages using XML.
>
> Personally, I would
2008/5/25 Manuel Prinz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Am Sonntag, den 25.05.2008, 14:40 +0200 schrieb Fernando Cerezal:
>> I'm thinking about advantages and disadvantages of write the
>> description of the packages using XML.
>
> I like XML but it's a huge pain to
Please, this mails to user lists (http://lists.debian.org) . This list
is for the development of Debian.
Sorry, Bye
2009/1/12 Boxuan Gu :
> Hello, all,
>
> I am using Debian lenny Linux Operating system.
>
> I am using the source code of linux kernel 2.6.26 (the patch level is
> 12) to build a ke
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On 2010-05-30, brian m. carlson wrote:
>> The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of
>> functionality with free data. Weather information is in the public
>> domain because there's no originality to it. Most programs t
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
> okaaay, riight. so. ah ha. it makes things quicker... by avoiding
> starting the services _entirely_ :)
It goes beyond that. Instead of program A depending on B being done
initializing so that it can connect to B's socket,
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:37 AM, Michael Gilbert
wrote:
> All of the issues raised in this paper can be mitigated by a "proactive"
> user. Malicious mirror activity can be detected by paying attention to
> debsecan and the security tracker [0]. debsecan displays all known
> vulnerable packages on
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Fernando Lemos:
>
>> 1. Man-in-the-middle attacks between clients and security update servers
>> 2. Denial-of-service attacks to the security updates infrastructure
>> 3. No trusted servers for security updates
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:34 PM, David Kalnischkies
wrote:
> In regards to APT i will have a look later how to implement it,
> hints regarding a good error message are welcomed
> as i can currently only thing about stuff like:
>>
> W: http://debian.example.org squeeze Release: The Validation da
2010/7/26 Jesús M. Navarro :
> Hi, Ian:
>
> On Monday 26 July 2010 13:49:00 Ian Jackson wrote:
>> Brian May writes ("Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was:
> Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling"):
>> > I would really like to see a HTML/HTTP browser based inte
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> (My own preference would be to create all home directories as completely
> empty, not even using /etc/skel, and fix all applications that need a
> file to create one on demand.)
There's no "need" for any of the files in /etc/skel, so there'
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer
wrote:
> You're aware that not only .bash_* and .profile can be distributed
> by /etc/skel,... but any other config file (e.g. .vimrc) a specific site
> or organisation may found useful for their users?
> Or a predefined directory structure
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 12:27:14PM +0200, Salvo 'LtWorf' Tomaselli wrote:
>> On Tuesday 07 September 2010 12:02:38 Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
>> > What about using nc ?
>> > nc -l < /etc/passwd
>> >
>> > http://localhost:/ => bingo.
Hey,
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Luk Claes wrote:
> IMHO, what is missing from rolling should be added to testing, not
> worked around by introducing another suite:
I believe it's the other way around, actually. To me, adding stuff to
testing is the workaround. Testing is not meant to be u
Hi Roland,
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Roland Mas wrote:
>> Well, we know that fully 27% of popcon-reporting users already use
>> unstable or testing. So in general, developers already have an incentive
>> to keep unstable and testing usable for those users, not just stable.
>
> I'm fine wi
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:39 AM, ivan wrote:
> I cannot chage manually IP address in /etc/network/interfaces, after bring
> interface down with ifconfig eth0 down I manually edit above maentioned file
> with:
> allow-hotplug eth0
> iface eth0 inet static
> address xxx.xxx.xx.xx and so on and a
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:56 PM, T. Alex Chen wrote:
> I want to do atomic operation and find there is already such implementation
> in Linux, e.g. atomic_add, atomic_set, atomic_cmpset, etc, after I google on
> the Web. I find a libatomic-ops-dev package and install it. But there is
> still
Hi Lucas,
Thanks for generating this list.
2010/12/3 Lucas Nussbaum :
> Fernando Tarlá Cardoso Lemos
> btag
This is not a bug in btag. The problem is that binutils-gold (used by
Ubuntu) breaks every program that uses Boost (among other C++
libraries):
http://bugs.debian.org/c
Hi Roger,
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
> This is a bug in your package, unfortunately. While it might appear
> that you only use boost_system /indirectly/, your code is in fact
> using it /directly/ via inline functions in the boost_filesystem
> headers. You can see this
Hi Roger,
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
[...]
> btag *does* use boost::system, even though you don't want to use it.
> Right now, with the g++4.5 and/or the gold linker, you aren't linking
> with a library you need. And I'm afraid that right at this point in
> time, it does
Hi, Olaf
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
>> Why? If you link indirectly today, and later on boost_filesystem
>> drops its boost_system dependency, your code will break because
>> those inlined functions are in *your*
Hi Olaf, Roger
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
[...]
>> Now, pkg-config isn't standardised /either/, but it's useful because
>> it will work with any standards-conforming compiler. It's just a
>> generalisation of existing practice (in the form of foo-config
>> scripts
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Fernando Mercês"
* Package name: pev
Version : 0.22
Upstream Author : Fernando Mercês
* URL : http://coding40.mentebinaria.com.br
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: C
Description : Utility to g
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Stanislav Maslovski
wrote:
[...]
>> If you want to have that level of control, why don't you just check it
>> manually? Use --download-only with apt-get (no dpkg locking this way)
>> and when it's done, use apt-get without it to install the packages after
>> making
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Simon Chopin
wrote:
[...]
>> > As Julian Taylor mentioned, there is also another side of the same
>> > problem: aptitude itself can be improved so that it is able to
>> > download and unpack in parallel. If it were doing this then the lock
>> > would be justified.
>
Hi,
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
[...]
> The latter change is described in [1] (section [2]). To summarize: If a
> library
> symbol is directly used by an object without explicitly linking this library,
> the link step now fails. The fix is to pass the library explict
Olaf,
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Fernando Lemos wrote:
>> Those are valid points, of course, but many Boost projects will fail
>> to build now and I see no good solution[1][2][3]. Some libraries like
Hi,
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Fernando Lemos wrote:
> In situations like this, what can package maintainers do? Would adding
> -Wl,--copy-dt-needed-entries to the build script be acceptable and
> would gold support that flag too? Should the bugs be assigned to the
> libra
is somebody working on node-webkit packaging?
https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit
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El 14/07/14 18:14, Leo Iannacone escribió:
> Hi Fernando,
>
> AFAIK nobody in JavaScript Team is working on.
>
> Consider to join us[0] if you want to package it.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Leo.
>
> [0] - https://wiki.debian.org/Javascript
>
>
Thanks you.
Hello ,want to help i am novice Linux love to learn more on the OS
debianplease direct me
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Neil Williams wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:36:13 +0200
> Svante Signell wrote:
>> Doing that will make the
>> release of wheezy much smoother than trying to fix things in the last
>> minute (and risk that the packages gets excluded from wheezy??)
>
> Definitely
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Svante Signell
wrote:
> In order to contribute more than being a porter (and patch submitter),
> I'm wondering how much effort/support is needed to become a DM, i.e.
> being able to upload packages myself, etc. A second alternative would be
> to build packages
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> Anyway, sorry if this sounds presumptious but if anyone can make a package
> then contact me and I'll collaborate and make whatever changes are needed to
> get it to work with Debian. I did make an effort before asking for help, but
> I'
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
> One of the definining characteristics of the Linux ecosystem, including
> Debian, has been that the system has been made up of a set of loosely-
> coupled compoments with well-defined interfaces. This is in stark
> contrast to, e.g. Windows, M
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
> Keeping our options open, and evaluating what are options are
> available and usable is important, and this is the principal reason
> why I am interested in looking at OpenRC. It doesn't hurt to try it
> out and see if it meets our needs.
Agr
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 04/30/2012 04:56 AM, Fernando Lemos wrote:
>> I agree that OpenRC would be an improvement over the status
>> quo, but migrating *away* from OpenRC later on would be a major pain
>> as we would have to support both
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:04:32PM -0300, Fernando Lemos wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> > On 04/30/2012 04:56 AM, Fernando Lemos wrote:
>> >> I agree that OpenRC would be
Hi,
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Patrick Ouellette wrote:
> I can find numbers of potential node users by examining the number of
> active amateur radio licenses and make educated guesses as to how many
> may be using the ham radio node software as either a user of the system
> or a system pro
Hi,
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> On 05/09/12 21:37, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>> ]] Philipp Kern
>>
>>> You will not, however, get a conffile update prompt when the system
>>> file changes (e.g. to update your own local copy to incorporate the
>>> fix).
>> This is somethin
Hi,
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Uoti Urpala wrote:
>>
>>Who's the one choosing his preferred configuration format based on the
>>limitations of his preferred packaging system here? Hint: it's not Red
>>Hat.
>
> *yawn*
>
> When you've got something constructive to add t
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Stefan Fritsch wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 May 2012, Gergely Nagy wrote:
>> > Apart from the fact that requirements will be different on
>> > different systems. Putting functionality for all possible corner
>> > cases into the daemon is not sensible for any upstream.
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
>> Q: I'm a smart man, I know what I'm doing, what apps I'm breaking and what
>> consequences my decision might have, but I still need my /tmp in tmpfs.
>> A: Then you should do that. In those rare cases when defaults need to be
>> changed they sh
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 12:59 AM, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Adam Borowski schrieb:
>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 02:47:38PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> > On Dec 30, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
>> >
>> > > I think that stephan is right here. Every package using files in /etc
>> > It DOES NOT
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> Le Wednesday 18 January 2012 18:41:44, Jakub Wilk a écrit :
>> And how do I use this parser? I want something as simple as: for a given
>> patch, check if the header complies to DEP-3 and if it does, dump it in
>> some machine-readable for
Hello Vittore,
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Vittore Luccio wrote:
> Thanks to you. Here's some other information:
[...]
What you're reporting is waaay too general. Please contact the
debian-user mailing list [1] or some other localized mailing list for
Debian users, and ask for advice on ho
Em 23/02/2012 14:58, "Steve Langasek" escreveu:
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 08:56:22AM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> > Moreover, other display manager may not work correctly because gdm3 is
> > the only display manager supporting all modern stuff. For example, we
> > could switch to somethi
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Of course the hard part is to make the initial decision to switch to a
> given init system; this is the kind of things Debian is very bad at.
That's something I've always wondered. It seems to me that we'll
*never* reach any form of conse
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Steve Langasek writes:
>
>> There are two main challenges here that I'm aware of with trying to
>> generate init scripts from upstart jobs:
>
>> - Process supervision. A lot of the win of moving to an init system like
>> upstart or syste
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:35 AM, Fernando Lemos wrote:
> * Socket activation information for systemd (and possibly upstart with
> upstart-socket-bridge)
By the way, I wonder if we could also come up with a wrapper that
allowed upstart to work with the systemd socket activation protocol.
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> This file could be easier to parse than a upstart/systemd unit too. I
>> think even more than scripts could be converted into this basic
>> format. The only drawback I can see is that it's another init
>> description syntax to learn (if it's
Hi,
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Dmitrii Kashin wrote:
>> A list of the actual utilities that you are interested in would help
>> people to answer your question.
>
> Okay. Here are listed all packages LiveCD contain:
> http://networksecuritytoolkit.org/nst/log/manifest.html
> Here are also de
Hi,
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Paul Wise wrote:
> Personally I think this is completely the wrong approach to take for
> compiler hardening flags. The flags should be enabled by default in
> upstream GCC and disabled by upstream software where they result in
> problems. The compiler hardeni
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Sergio Cipolla wrote:
> Hello.
> I'm just a Debian user for some years and I'm writing to this list
> because I found that at
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660814 the Debian
> Multimedia maintainer Fabian Greffrath was very wrong, by being
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> What we need, though, is probably to make it more clear to our users
> what is the difference among *.debian.net and *.debian.org services. It
> is something that developers know by folklore, but that I seriously
> doubt most of our users
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Arno Töll wrote:
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>
> Hi,
>
> On 05.03.2012 14:31, Fernando Lemos wrote:
>> I believe people don't go to http://www.debian.net/ often, as it
>> redirects to http://www.debian.org/.
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Josh Triplett wrote:
> To give one particular example: systemd uses Linux-specific features to
> accurately track all the processes started by a service, which allows
> accurate monitoring and shutdown of processes which could otherwise
> disassociate themselve
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Jens Stimpfle wrote:
> python-poppler bindings are incomplete, I am missing one for
> ps_file_new. I feel that I have to patch it myself, but am at a loss for
> understanding how it works. The build system has a poppler.defs file
> which gets compiled to C code usin
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> OoO En cette nuit nuageuse du mercredi 07 mars 2012, vers 00:21,
> Fernando Lemos disait :
>
>>> To give one particular example: systemd uses Linux-specific features to
>>> accurately track all the pro
Hello,
After a brief discussion in debian-mentors[1], Paul Wise suggested
that we might need a virtual package for icon themes that adhere to
the FreeDesktop.org icon naming spec[2]. Following his suggestions, I
posted a message requesting feedback from debian-desktop[3] (I suggest
that intereste
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Andreas Metzler
wrote:
> Philip Hands wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:37:39 +0100, Vincent Danjean
>> wrote:
> [...]
>>> * We could try to define a file format that allow a conversion (by a
>>> separate specific tool or at runtime) to various init systems.
>>
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> I really think that what's missing here is:
> - Improve sysvinit and make it better to fit our needs without breaking
> anything (eg: less scripts redundancy, parallel booting, ...).
You're missing the point. We already have parallel bootin
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Svante Signell
wrote:
> Please, don't make things unbearably complicated in case something
> breaks!!! Network *should* work also in console mode... Looking forward
> to the which nasty bugs in the future are caused by systemd/upstart!
Wow. You *clearly* don't kno
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Thomas Bechtold
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i just want to ask if it's possible to update to the latest upstart
> version. i followed the latest discussion but i just want to have the
> latest version available in debian. i don't care about the upstart
> support in debia
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Thomas Bechtold
wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 19:25 -0300, Fernando Lemos wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Thomas Bechtold
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > i just want to ask if it'
Hi,
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Michael Welle wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Michael Banck writes:
>
>> On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:31:49AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote:
>>> Anyways, what if I want to report a bug that happens if I use foo.org?
>>
>> We can discuss this again once this is actually the cas
ng me to do
> things I want to do etc etc etc.
>
> XFCE is *by*far* superior to G3, IMNSHO
>
> Norbert
>
i vote for Mate
=)
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El 03/06/14 08:38, Mike Gabriel escribió:
> Dear all,
>
> the MATE Packaging Team is proud to announce that MATE 1.8 has now
> fully arrived in Debian.
>
good job!
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On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 5:11 AM, martin f krafft wrote:
[...]
> last I checked, for instance, it was not possible to hook up two
> network cards with DHCP.
[...]
Hmmm I do have two network cards and they both get IP addresses with
DHCP as I would expect (when they both are enabled).
Anyways, I do
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
[...]
> It does have system-global config file. But the settings are not
> expected to be there. By default the settings are expected to be in the
> user directory (has this changed since 0.8?). So I won't easily find it
> when I want to e.g. ch
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
wrote:
[...]
> This said, I don't think NM can be the magic bullet to fix everything.
> Even RedHat while shipping NetworkManager on servers last I checked,
> still relies on their simpler command-line setup for interfaces. So
> should we. De
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Stanislav Maslovski
wrote:
[...]
>> Also note that there are NM plugins that enable NM to understand
>> /etc/network/interfaces and the Fedora/RHEL counterparts. This means
>> that if a server has NM enabled and an administrator wants to
>> configure networking manu
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Patrick Schoenfeld
wrote:
>> I've always believed that peoply chose NM for simplicity. And I can
>> understand that. It's simple because it doesn't support anything
>> "complex", including common VPN setups.
>
> ifupdown does not support any VPN setup at all. how
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote:
>> Could those thread participants who have gripes from their last NM
>> experience many years ago please confirm that their gripes still apply
>> before continuing with the discussion?
>
> felipe@pcfelipe:supercollider% apt-cache policy netwo
2011/5/1 Miroslav Suchý :
> Dne 3.4.2011 18:08, Fernando Lemos napsal(a):
>>
>> * It doesn't have a good command-line interface
>
> It does have CLI interface. Those commands are bundled directly in
> NetworkManager:
> nm-cli
> nm-tool
> nm-online
>
> I
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:40 PM, sean finney wrote:
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> On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:25:35PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>> On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 02:24:12PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
>> > What to do during freezes
>> > -
>> > If we want to do something diff
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Didier Raboud wrote:
>> I think expecting having a working smtp on laptops, workstations, etc,
>> is unreasonable these days.
>> I suggest that we can make an HTTP based bug reporting method.
>
> While I disagree with your appreciation, I am sure that it would be
>
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Patrick Strasser
wrote:
[...]
> Why not use some simple non-HTTP-protocol on port 80?
That tends to break transparent proxying. If port 80 is the only one
you have open, chances are you're behind a transparent proxy as well.
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On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A few days ago, we had a discussion in Ubuntu about a packaging-dev meta
> package. The problem is that users have to install a bunch of packages
> if they want to dive into packaging. Even some packagers get annoyed
> when they need
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Gergely Nagy wrote:
[...]
> (Personally, I like the patch systemd path best, and time and skill
> permitting, I'd be happy to help, if so need be.)
While that may sound attractive at first, I don't think it's
technically possible at all at the moment. It's not a s
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Peter Samuelson wrote:
>
> [Uoti Urpala]
>> IMO letting kFreeBSD block a technology like systemd (or even letting
>> it have a significant impact on the discussion about whether it's
>> desirable to introduce the technology for the main Linux case) would
>> only be
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Marc Haber
wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:36:34 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen
> wrote:
>>Something like:
>>
>>ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/update-exim4.conf
>>ExecStart=/usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m
>>
>>should do what you want.
>
> exim4 is one example, and it adds some extra co
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Guus Sliepen wrote:
> By the way, we already have the SysV init scripts, so we don't need to do
> anything to keep supporting that, while it will take some time before every
> package with a daemon has the required systemd scripts in place, I think we
> should wait
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Fernando Lemos wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Guus Sliepen wrote:
>> By the way, we already have the SysV init scripts, so we don't need to do
>> anything to keep supporting that, while it will take some time before every
>>
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